given that lvl4 armor (which is common and everywhere with police and military these days) will stop any AP ammo below 338 and 50 cal, is there a poin...

given that lvl4 armor (which is common and everywhere with police and military these days) will stop any AP ammo below 338 and 50 cal, is there a point for any intermediate and even full sized rifles anymore, since none of it can defeat common armor?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me you have no guns without telling me you have no guns.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Now is the age of the 9mm pcc with fart trigger and stendo.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big calibers are for long range and anti-material. Also, they are fun.

    5.56x45 or similar is fine for your everyday carbine; the plates are just covering part of the chest.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone will be armored
    >every body part of a target will be armored
    >guns are only to shoot at people

    you are an idiot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this
      and

      Hey genius, the armor degrades with each shot, the more penetrative the round the fewer hits before the armor fails. Would you rather have to hit five times with 5.56 or fifty times with some pistol caliber shit?

      this.
      Also some degree of barrier blindness (windshields, plywood, etc) is nice to have.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes the good old fashioned "video game HP bar mindset" where shooting someone in the leg is as effective as a CNS shot
      >headshots are difficult to train for a reason

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >CNS
        >Discussion about plates
        I-what? You're not going to be putting a round through the torso into their spine.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey genius, the armor degrades with each shot, the more penetrative the round the fewer hits before the armor fails. Would you rather have to hit five times with 5.56 or fifty times with some pistol caliber shit?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how many people are able to get their hands on m855a1 tho

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We need a FAL in 338.
    >That's absolutely retarded
    Don't care.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The American 180 will rise again.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turkish piece of shit. The same as their Bayraktars.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Easily breaks through the usual Russian 5.45x39.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Poor Ukrainians are being deceived by the whole world. In 2014, they promised to accept them into the EU and NATO. In 2022, they did not accept anywhere, but promised help. As a result, they are killed by Russian artillery. For what?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did those roaches lidherhuhly use comic sans on the back of their plate carriers?
      Lmfao

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    majority of plates are still heavy, you have soldiers carrying 20 lb+ front, back and side plates, you still have exposed shoulders, neck, head, groin, and legs. Add another 50 pounds of other gear, and you can't move, can't evade fire. Even if rounds don't penetrate, they will knock you down, cause internal bleeding, and at close range body armor won't stop hand grenades.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tell me you don't own armor nor have ever used it without explicitly saying so

      ?t=145

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          holy shit you are a fucking retard. The guy fell over from the surprise and shock of being hit not the actual energy you dumb fuck. Use what is in your skull, does a rifle knock you over when you fire it?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >guy gets back up and runs to cover
          >still chanting allah ackbar
          idk about you but if i saw that i'd be saying "fuck" instead, shit, i wouldn't even show that footage to anyone. it's a failure

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