Overpriced and unreliable. The G43 was quite possibly the worst semi-auto rifle of that era and that's saying something considering the only truly good semi-auto rifle design from that era was the Garand.
How well it shoots doesn't mean shit if it breaks constantly and is expensive and difficult to repair.
There are several gunsmiths still active to this day that make their entire living fixing issues with milsurp G43s.
Almost all of the older 8mm Mauser semiautos are kinda shit tbh. 8mm is just too overpowered and inconsistently loaded between different countries and time periods to make a truly reliable design and most of the cheap surp ammo is usually skews towards overpowered because it was meant for MGs and bolt actions and will beat most semi actions to death pretty quick.
>Almost all of the older 8mm Mauser semiautos are kinda shit tbh
This is false, and quite the retarded take.
>hakim
quite possibly one of the most magnificent semi auto battle rifles to shoot. Has adjustable gas port and stainless gas tube.
>G41W
very nice as well. Parts are machined, much higher quality, and very durable. Night and day difference in construction with the G43. >but muh gas trap carbon build up
I've never had a issue with mine, maybe because I'm not on the eastern front. >FN-49
Does have issues with the old-style firing pins. But are quite rare now. Very widely used and liked. Not as nice shooting as the Hakim, though. >SMG FG-42 (if you count repros)
Extremely incredible shooting rifle (if you can afford it)
One of the reasons why I eventually want to get a gunsmith if license is to be able to remake older rifles for myself, and the G41(w) is one of them. Are they mechanically complex? I saw the old Forgotten Weapons video on it.
This one is all matching. Unfortunately some boomer absolutely devastated the OG matching stock. So bad in fact that he sanded off the rear band lip and left almost no meat under the front band so the bayo lug was glued in. Literally can't even assemble the rifle to shoot.
I will never understand why the desire to sand stocks was so big back in the day to the point that you can't even assemble the rifle correctly. Still, at least you're doing well to fix it. Where'd you even manage to find your G41s? I rarely see them come up for sale online, never seen one in person.
Sanding stocks is a massive derivative problem. I'll see G41s that would have been $10k guns sell for $5k or $6k just because the stock was sanded.
I found both online.
I think I on gunsamerica.
I just so happened to spot both as soon as they were posted. Both were really good deals.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nice. I'm currently saving up for either a matching pre war K98k or a matching K43 but I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the G41 and think I'll eventually find myself saving up for one. What's the norm for a mismatched one vs a fully original matching one these days in terms of price?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hard to pin down a price without looking the rifle. Serial prefix, date, condition, boomer gayry, etc, etc, will effect the price. But like I mentioned earlier, stock will be a big chunk of the price. Even if it's lightly sanded, it's a real steep curve. Might lose $2k off the value if the rifle was real righteous because of some light sanding/cleaning.
The biggest effect on price is the seller's knowledge and desire to sell. I haven't paid "market price" for a gun in 10 years. Always finding deals, sometimes at a pawn shop, from friends, or online. Even found many good scores on Gunbroker with the "buy it now" button.
But this only works if you're knowledgeable about the gun or have someone you can quickly call and ask.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Serial prefix, date, condition, boomer gayry, etc, etc, will effect the price. But like I mentioned earlier, stock will be a big chunk of the price. Even if it's lightly sanded, it's a real steep curve. Mighy lose $2k off the value if the rifle was real righteous because of some light sanding/cleaning.
That makes a lot of sense. Since falling down the German surp rabbit hole, I've seen that there I'd probably want just a basic but original duv43 G41 for myself, no need to go deep in the weeds over a trials G41(W). Morphy auctions currently has a duv43 up for auction, what do you think would be fair for it?
>The biggest effect on price is the seller's knowledge and desire to sell. I haven't paid "market price" for a gun in 10 years. Always finding deals, sometimes at a pawn shop, from friends, or online
This is the part I struggle with since my local area is pretty barren for any surp and online seems to be mostly auctions where people with more money than brains tend to show up.
>Almost all of the older 8mm Mauser semiautos are kinda shit tbh
This is false, and quite the retarded take.
>hakim
quite possibly one of the most magnificent semi auto battle rifles to shoot. Has adjustable gas port and stainless gas tube.
>G41W
very nice as well. Parts are machined, much higher quality, and very durable. Night and day difference in construction with the G43. >but muh gas trap carbon build up
I've never had a issue with mine, maybe because I'm not on the eastern front. >FN-49
Does have issues with the old-style firing pins. But are quite rare now. Very widely used and liked. Not as nice shooting as the Hakim, though. >SMG FG-42 (if you count repros)
Extremely incredible shooting rifle (if you can afford it)
It's not the design that's the issue with most 8mm semis. The issue is making an action that's robust enough tosafely and reliably handle the extreme variances between different manufacturers' 8mm loadings.
It'd have to be able to reliably feed everything from the more mild Yugo light ball that's only a little more powerful than all the borderline-intermediate 6.5 rounds like the Swedish Mausers and Carcanos use to the super Hispanicy overloaded Turkish 8mm that comes in those shitty bandoliers or that steel case WWII-era German AP stuff that's all over the place right now that's closer to a modern magnum round in power and will even beat most bolt action Mausers to death pretty quickly.
Given how the Garand needs an aftermarket gas plug to be able to safely shoot modern 30-06 that isn't anywhere near as overloaded as the Hispanicier 8mm then I doubt it'd be all that reliable.
Why don’t you just standardize your ammo and not use shitty ammo? The problem isn’t 8mm as a cartridge. Plus the Garand needing a gas plug is overblown and the design is very well suited to a variety of ammo within saami spec.
>Turkish 8mm
Not designed for semi autos, designed primarily for machine guns. > WWII-era German AP stuff that's all over the place right now that's closer to a modern magnum round in power
Not designed for semi autos, designed primarily for machine guns.
Firing hot 8mm surplus out of your semi auto rifle and expecting it to handle it is no different from expecting your gun to handle bubbas pissin hot overloaded mystery ammo, or firing surplus smg ammo out of your vintage pistols.
SMKH is the best. 198gr at 3000fps, tungsten heavy alloy core, not that trash tungsten carbide. Basically guaranteed penetration on any non-50cal plate in the world, perversely designed at a time when plates didnt exist.
On the downside yeah its loaded hotter than hades
I doubt many anons have even seen a Gewehr 41 in person, let alone held or fired one because of the rarity and cost. Same for the G43, considering they sell for SCAR 17 money now. I hope to eventually get a K43 and G41, both are awesome rifles.
>Overpriced and unreliable
Overpriced is only in relation to the more common semi autos of the era that are available today. Comparing prices for M1 Garands (6 million made), SVT40s (1.5 million made), and G/K43s (~412,000 made) is a bit unfair due to the scarcity of them, especially taking into account the limited number in the US as most went East to fight the Soviets. The rifle itself is actually fairly reliable, it's fatal flaw is that it was overgassed to increase reliability to the point of beating itself to death which is a longevity and durability issue more than pure reliability.
I genuinely do believe that if the Germans had reverse engineered the Garand in 8mm and adapted it to use stripper clips like the Japanese tried to do, that rifle would have been better than the G43. But Germans love complexity and solving problems that have already been answered.
I disagree with that, the G/K43 was designed around the rationalization of German industry that started in 1942 and was continuously improved over the course of the war. The G43 was only in serial production for 19 months with the bulk of development done in late 1942-1943. This is also not taking into account that the M1 Garand had nearly 2 decades of development prior to 1941 whereas the G/K43 came from the G41 which started development in 1939. The M1 Garand is actually a fairly complex rifle to manufacture, the G/K43 has a number of simplifications to make it faster and cheaper to produce(pressed and pinned barrel vs threaded barrel, less receiver machining operations vs M1). The bolt group of the K43 is really the most "complex" functioning part and it's still not horrible considering spares you the difficulty of machining camways like on the M1(two locking flaps, cylindrical bolt, firing pin carrier, sheet metal action cover, extractor, firing pin spring, action spring, guide rod, and bolt carrier). The main advantage the US had with the M1 was being setup to produce it in quantity prior to the outbreak of war, design refined by 1942, and an untouched logistical network that was able to meet the material demands required for its production. The G43 had none of those advantages.
With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the Allies and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and regional dominance for the German eagle, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of Western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world, and instead mark a bloodier and crueler subjugation to the sub-Aryan nations of the region. With the blessings of quantum jet engines, trans-Atlantic rockets, and flying-wing jet bombers will be the instruments with which the 3rd Reich affirms its noble stewardship of 20th century world politics and offers the world a different option; a National Socialist alternative to the depredations of Anglo liberalism and the opportunity for a more unequal and ignoble global dominance.
>Why’s this girl so forgotten?
it isn't tho, wehraboos still cream their pants over it
dragunov has been in more video games and movies which is why it gets more attention
Skill issue and nothing wrong with rimmed when the rifle is designed to use it. SVT was going to be the soviets primary rifle in place of the nagant but unfortunately field reports say Russian troops thought it had "too complicated controls" so they went nagant over svt.
Imagine the other universe where there's just so many svts it's like mosins.
Red Army lost most of their SVTs at the start of Barbarossa, and their manufacturing base barely replaced any of them in favor of cheaper options. The rifles also had long-term durability issues on par with the M-14.
I don't think the majority of SVT-40s were built during or prior to 1942. Also don't insult the M14 by comparing it to the SVT. M14 wasn't that bad when viewed as an upgrade to the M1 Garand.
>over 1 million SVTs produced by 1941 >Soviet leadership orders most factories to Retvrn to Nugget >only 600,000 SVTs produced between 1942-1945
The scale of Red Army losses (along with their gunz) in the early stages of the invasion was just that insane.
It's forgotten for a few reasons >it's rare >it's expensive >it's massively overshadowed by the more impressive guns of the 3rd Reich like the FG42 and STG44
The only reason I occasionally think of the Gewehr, is because of the G41M's bolt-action inclusion incase the auto-loading jammed.
I genuinely do believe that if the Germans had reverse engineered the Garand in 8mm and adapted it to use stripper clips like the Japanese tried to do, that rifle would have been better than the G43. But Germans love complexity and solving problems that have already been answered.
The SVT was never mass produced unlike the Garand. SVT 40 was just another soviet one of prototype that they use as propaganda. Russians copied the Germans in every regard.
Low production numbers late war disproportionately sent to the East and overgassed to shit because of short actual front use lifespan & why not in winter conditions. And in 8mm not 30-Fudd. Walla. Little surplus at premium prices post war.
I would kill for a Jap Type 4 that worked properly. Unfortunately the japs never managed to reverse engineer the en bloc clips so resorted to reloading with 2 five round stripper clips. 10 round capacity.
For me it's the Farquhar–Hill rifle, Kbsp wz. 1938M, Mondragón Fl.-S.-K. 15, Pavesi Mod. 1942, Pavesi Mod. PG, Pedersen Rifle, Scotti Model X, SKS-31, Springfield Armory M1E5, Turner SMLE, the Type Hei (Early version with the 10 round mag) and the Winchester G30M.
Because they break like glass and the parts are overly complicated and expemsive... so basically the same issue that the entire Nazi military industrial complex suffered.
They did experiment with an adjustable gas plug on the G43 but it never made it past the prototype stage. And they did add a pair of relief holes in the gas cylinder to reduce some pressure in later production. The overgassing was an expedient solution to insure that the rifle functioned in all types of environments encountered on the Eastern front. In fact, the G43 was announced as adopted for service without a formal troop trial in early 1944 iirc, the situation to increase infantry firepower was that desparate.
You're so retarded you can't conceive of multiple things being true at once.
Making something from cheap parts isn't the same thing as simplifying the design, retard. The mechanism can still be overly complicated while being made of cheap parts. The parts broke often because they were cheap. When they did the design of the rifle wasn't intuitive enough for the average soldier to do a field repair. Parts on guns in WW2 broke all the time because every gun that was issued to soldiers on either side was mass produced with cheap parts. If you had a gun that was simple to replace parts on it stayed in service longer, the G43 was no such thing.
Wish they would make a repro
>Shoots better than the dragunov
good gun but not a very high bar
Overpriced and unreliable. The G43 was quite possibly the worst semi-auto rifle of that era and that's saying something considering the only truly good semi-auto rifle design from that era was the Garand.
How well it shoots doesn't mean shit if it breaks constantly and is expensive and difficult to repair.
There are several gunsmiths still active to this day that make their entire living fixing issues with milsurp G43s.
Almost all of the older 8mm Mauser semiautos are kinda shit tbh. 8mm is just too overpowered and inconsistently loaded between different countries and time periods to make a truly reliable design and most of the cheap surp ammo is usually skews towards overpowered because it was meant for MGs and bolt actions and will beat most semi actions to death pretty quick.
>Almost all of the older 8mm Mauser semiautos are kinda shit tbh
This is false, and quite the retarded take.
>hakim
quite possibly one of the most magnificent semi auto battle rifles to shoot. Has adjustable gas port and stainless gas tube.
>G41W
very nice as well. Parts are machined, much higher quality, and very durable. Night and day difference in construction with the G43.
>but muh gas trap carbon build up
I've never had a issue with mine, maybe because I'm not on the eastern front.
>FN-49
Does have issues with the old-style firing pins. But are quite rare now. Very widely used and liked. Not as nice shooting as the Hakim, though.
>SMG FG-42 (if you count repros)
Extremely incredible shooting rifle (if you can afford it)
>Hakim
Absolute trash, the M1 Garand is easier to load without getting a nail blister
>without getting a nail blister
Just how incapable are you with your hands?
Also, Hakim effectively zero recoil.
>I've never had an issue with mine, maybe because I'm not on the eastern front
Post G41.
My first one.
Mostly mismatched unfortunately. But the whole bolt group match the receiver.
I got it as a shooter.
One of the reasons why I eventually want to get a gunsmith if license is to be able to remake older rifles for myself, and the G41(w) is one of them. Are they mechanically complex? I saw the old Forgotten Weapons video on it.
For now, though, making anything is a pipe dream.
>Are they mechanically complex?
Are you a master machinist?
Do you have a complete professional-level machine shop at your disposal?
This one is all matching. Unfortunately some boomer absolutely devastated the OG matching stock. So bad in fact that he sanded off the rear band lip and left almost no meat under the front band so the bayo lug was glued in. Literally can't even assemble the rifle to shoot.
But I got a fresh stock for it. Still a WIP.
I will never understand why the desire to sand stocks was so big back in the day to the point that you can't even assemble the rifle correctly. Still, at least you're doing well to fix it. Where'd you even manage to find your G41s? I rarely see them come up for sale online, never seen one in person.
Sanding stocks is a massive derivative problem. I'll see G41s that would have been $10k guns sell for $5k or $6k just because the stock was sanded.
I found both online.
I think I on gunsamerica.
I just so happened to spot both as soon as they were posted. Both were really good deals.
Nice. I'm currently saving up for either a matching pre war K98k or a matching K43 but I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the G41 and think I'll eventually find myself saving up for one. What's the norm for a mismatched one vs a fully original matching one these days in terms of price?
Hard to pin down a price without looking the rifle. Serial prefix, date, condition, boomer gayry, etc, etc, will effect the price. But like I mentioned earlier, stock will be a big chunk of the price. Even if it's lightly sanded, it's a real steep curve. Might lose $2k off the value if the rifle was real righteous because of some light sanding/cleaning.
The biggest effect on price is the seller's knowledge and desire to sell. I haven't paid "market price" for a gun in 10 years. Always finding deals, sometimes at a pawn shop, from friends, or online. Even found many good scores on Gunbroker with the "buy it now" button.
But this only works if you're knowledgeable about the gun or have someone you can quickly call and ask.
>Serial prefix, date, condition, boomer gayry, etc, etc, will effect the price. But like I mentioned earlier, stock will be a big chunk of the price. Even if it's lightly sanded, it's a real steep curve. Mighy lose $2k off the value if the rifle was real righteous because of some light sanding/cleaning.
That makes a lot of sense. Since falling down the German surp rabbit hole, I've seen that there I'd probably want just a basic but original duv43 G41 for myself, no need to go deep in the weeds over a trials G41(W). Morphy auctions currently has a duv43 up for auction, what do you think would be fair for it?
https://www.proxibid.com/Guns-Military-Artifacts/Rifles/C-HIGH-CONDITION-GERMAN-WORLD-WAR-II-BERLIN-LUBECKER-G41-W-SEMI-AUTOMATIC-RIFLE/lotInformation/78291373#topoflot
>The biggest effect on price is the seller's knowledge and desire to sell. I haven't paid "market price" for a gun in 10 years. Always finding deals, sometimes at a pawn shop, from friends, or online
This is the part I struggle with since my local area is pretty barren for any surp and online seems to be mostly auctions where people with more money than brains tend to show up.
Hakim is simply a Egyptian copy of the AG-42.
The post was about 8mm semi autos.
>the only truly good semi-auto rifle design from that era was the Garand.
wrong
If you made an 8mm Garand I bet it would be good
It's not the design that's the issue with most 8mm semis. The issue is making an action that's robust enough tosafely and reliably handle the extreme variances between different manufacturers' 8mm loadings.
It'd have to be able to reliably feed everything from the more mild Yugo light ball that's only a little more powerful than all the borderline-intermediate 6.5 rounds like the Swedish Mausers and Carcanos use to the super Hispanicy overloaded Turkish 8mm that comes in those shitty bandoliers or that steel case WWII-era German AP stuff that's all over the place right now that's closer to a modern magnum round in power and will even beat most bolt action Mausers to death pretty quickly.
Given how the Garand needs an aftermarket gas plug to be able to safely shoot modern 30-06 that isn't anywhere near as overloaded as the Hispanicier 8mm then I doubt it'd be all that reliable.
clown
Why don’t you just standardize your ammo and not use shitty ammo? The problem isn’t 8mm as a cartridge. Plus the Garand needing a gas plug is overblown and the design is very well suited to a variety of ammo within saami spec.
>Turkish 8mm
Not designed for semi autos, designed primarily for machine guns.
> WWII-era German AP stuff that's all over the place right now that's closer to a modern magnum round in power
Not designed for semi autos, designed primarily for machine guns.
Firing hot 8mm surplus out of your semi auto rifle and expecting it to handle it is no different from expecting your gun to handle bubbas pissin hot overloaded mystery ammo, or firing surplus smg ammo out of your vintage pistols.
SMKH is the best. 198gr at 3000fps, tungsten heavy alloy core, not that trash tungsten carbide. Basically guaranteed penetration on any non-50cal plate in the world, perversely designed at a time when plates didnt exist.
On the downside yeah its loaded hotter than hades
Look up the G41m.
The G41s may be good rifles but the problem is they're even more rare and expensive than the G43.
I doubt many anons have even seen a Gewehr 41 in person, let alone held or fired one because of the rarity and cost. Same for the G43, considering they sell for SCAR 17 money now. I hope to eventually get a K43 and G41, both are awesome rifles.
>They hated him because he spoke the truth.
>Overpriced and unreliable
Overpriced is only in relation to the more common semi autos of the era that are available today. Comparing prices for M1 Garands (6 million made), SVT40s (1.5 million made), and G/K43s (~412,000 made) is a bit unfair due to the scarcity of them, especially taking into account the limited number in the US as most went East to fight the Soviets. The rifle itself is actually fairly reliable, it's fatal flaw is that it was overgassed to increase reliability to the point of beating itself to death which is a longevity and durability issue more than pure reliability.
I disagree with that, the G/K43 was designed around the rationalization of German industry that started in 1942 and was continuously improved over the course of the war. The G43 was only in serial production for 19 months with the bulk of development done in late 1942-1943. This is also not taking into account that the M1 Garand had nearly 2 decades of development prior to 1941 whereas the G/K43 came from the G41 which started development in 1939. The M1 Garand is actually a fairly complex rifle to manufacture, the G/K43 has a number of simplifications to make it faster and cheaper to produce(pressed and pinned barrel vs threaded barrel, less receiver machining operations vs M1). The bolt group of the K43 is really the most "complex" functioning part and it's still not horrible considering spares you the difficulty of machining camways like on the M1(two locking flaps, cylindrical bolt, firing pin carrier, sheet metal action cover, extractor, firing pin spring, action spring, guide rod, and bolt carrier). The main advantage the US had with the M1 was being setup to produce it in quantity prior to the outbreak of war, design refined by 1942, and an untouched logistical network that was able to meet the material demands required for its production. The G43 had none of those advantages.
Screen cap worthy for thoroughness. The shorter development time and front line use lifecycle have to be kept in mind.
Quality post.
>The G43 was quite possibly the worst semi-auto rifle of that era
It's not even the worst German one.
the garand is a POS designed by a canadian, the leafs first gas trap garands were all a technological failure, along with the 7th round stoppage.
Impressive.
With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the Allies and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and regional dominance for the German eagle, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of Western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world, and instead mark a bloodier and crueler subjugation to the sub-Aryan nations of the region. With the blessings of quantum jet engines, trans-Atlantic rockets, and flying-wing jet bombers will be the instruments with which the 3rd Reich affirms its noble stewardship of 20th century world politics and offers the world a different option; a National Socialist alternative to the depredations of Anglo liberalism and the opportunity for a more unequal and ignoble global dominance.
Had the potential for dubs or even trips
Tried too hard like the redditor he is though.
>Had the potential for dubs or even trips
looks like you picked up the slack in that respect
>Why’s this girl so forgotten?
it isn't tho, wehraboos still cream their pants over it
dragunov has been in more video games and movies which is why it gets more attention
>2023
>anyone caring about WW2
My brother in Christ, I have bad news for you
>is superior in every way
nothing personell kid
Except SVT's are a huge fucking pain in the ass to disassemble, and take a rimmed cartridge.
Skill issue and nothing wrong with rimmed when the rifle is designed to use it. SVT was going to be the soviets primary rifle in place of the nagant but unfortunately field reports say Russian troops thought it had "too complicated controls" so they went nagant over svt.
Imagine the other universe where there's just so many svts it's like mosins.
Red Army lost most of their SVTs at the start of Barbarossa, and their manufacturing base barely replaced any of them in favor of cheaper options. The rifles also had long-term durability issues on par with the M-14.
I don't think the majority of SVT-40s were built during or prior to 1942. Also don't insult the M14 by comparing it to the SVT. M14 wasn't that bad when viewed as an upgrade to the M1 Garand.
>over 1 million SVTs produced by 1941
>Soviet leadership orders most factories to Retvrn to Nugget
>only 600,000 SVTs produced between 1942-1945
The scale of Red Army losses (along with their gunz) in the early stages of the invasion was just that insane.
>snaps stock wrist
Nothing personal.
It's forgotten for a few reasons
>it's rare
>it's expensive
>it's massively overshadowed by the more impressive guns of the 3rd Reich like the FG42 and STG44
The only reason I occasionally think of the Gewehr, is because of the G41M's bolt-action inclusion incase the auto-loading jammed.
I'm going to wildly guess that its not a particularly reliable design, the initial requirements really messed it up.
I genuinely do believe that if the Germans had reverse engineered the Garand in 8mm and adapted it to use stripper clips like the Japanese tried to do, that rifle would have been better than the G43. But Germans love complexity and solving problems that have already been answered.
Because SVT/AVT-40.
The SVT was never mass produced unlike the Garand. SVT 40 was just another soviet one of prototype that they use as propaganda. Russians copied the Germans in every regard.
>The SVT was never mass produced
el oh l
It's more or less just an SVT clone made in far smaller numbers.
SVT never existed
>SVT clone
>tilting bolt
>G43 is flapper locked
Only thing they copied was the gas system, rest was pretty removed from the SVT.
>shoots better than dragunov
no it doesn’t
t. shot both
Low production numbers late war disproportionately sent to the East and overgassed to shit because of short actual front use lifespan & why not in winter conditions. And in 8mm not 30-Fudd. Walla. Little surplus at premium prices post war.
>while being 20 years younger
Do you know how age works? You know how your parents were born before you. That does not make them younger than you.
Need K43 sniper
I would kill for a Jap Type 4 that worked properly. Unfortunately the japs never managed to reverse engineer the en bloc clips so resorted to reloading with 2 five round stripper clips. 10 round capacity.
For me it's the Farquhar–Hill rifle, Kbsp wz. 1938M, Mondragón Fl.-S.-K. 15, Pavesi Mod. 1942, Pavesi Mod. PG, Pedersen Rifle, Scotti Model X, SKS-31, Springfield Armory M1E5, Turner SMLE, the Type Hei (Early version with the 10 round mag) and the Winchester G30M.
For me, it's the Mauser M1916 Selbstlader Fliegerkarabiner. Pic related sold at RIA this month for $35k
Because they break like glass and the parts are overly complicated and expemsive... so basically the same issue that the entire Nazi military industrial complex suffered.
Couldn't they just tone down the gas system a bit so it doesn't beat itself to death?
They did experiment with an adjustable gas plug on the G43 but it never made it past the prototype stage. And they did add a pair of relief holes in the gas cylinder to reduce some pressure in later production. The overgassing was an expedient solution to insure that the rifle functioned in all types of environments encountered on the Eastern front. In fact, the G43 was announced as adopted for service without a formal troop trial in early 1944 iirc, the situation to increase infantry firepower was that desparate.
Seething noguns
I literally work in a gun store you retarded gay.
That doesn't necessarily mean you own guns tho
Parts are oversimplified, retard.
Makes it easier to manufacture.
That's why the stamped parts are cracking apart.
You're so retarded you can't conceive of multiple things being true at once.
Making something from cheap parts isn't the same thing as simplifying the design, retard. The mechanism can still be overly complicated while being made of cheap parts. The parts broke often because they were cheap. When they did the design of the rifle wasn't intuitive enough for the average soldier to do a field repair. Parts on guns in WW2 broke all the time because every gun that was issued to soldiers on either side was mass produced with cheap parts. If you had a gun that was simple to replace parts on it stayed in service longer, the G43 was no such thing.