German Army

Can't believe they're replacing the G36 with a damn AR..

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah frick ya mudda

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are they? Last I heard the Haenal thing was dead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Guy on the left is a French soldier for anyone curious

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LOOL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The absolute disgust on the Germans face. To this day along the French German boarder people spite the frick out of the opposite side.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The filename + his face has my sides in orbit. Why the frick is he so mad?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HK416A8 will be the new service rifle, G36 will go to the reserve soon™.
      I'd be surprised if someone that signs a 4 year contract today will get to hold one of them, but things are getting better.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll get in next year and I just know that I wont ever so much as see a HK416
        Can't complain though, I prefer the G36 anyways

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >G36 is sovl even though its the most plastic gun ever

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, same with the F2000, XM-8, P90, and really any futuristic gun from the late 90s-00s that just scream "We're gonna have colonies on the moon within the next century"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"We're gonna have colonies on the moon within the next century"
        We used to dream anon, we used to dream

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/6PrZktO.jpeg

        >isn't the steyr aug even more polymer-laden?

        Nope, the AUG's receiver is aluminum, neighbor-kun. You win the plastic Olympics.
        (I like the G36 better though.)

        https://i.imgur.com/wukDwko.jpeg

        It's a perfectly adequate combat rifle.
        The only utterly dogshit thing about it is the original dual combat optic.
        (I absolutely love the concept and the looks though, so I went out of my way to get one on eGuns and I keep it on at all times.)
        The mags are too thick and clumsy, but you can get a STANAG magwell which means it's a non-issue.
        Lack of attachment points and non-adjustable LoP can be solved by the new (butt ugly) furniture.
        Really, the only inherently bad (in retrospect) design choice is that any optics you put on it will have to ride a bit too high, because the picatinny rail has to be high to allow you to reach the charging handle.
        100% reliable otherwise and impressively accurate despite the sort of mushy trigger.

        >die fdp muss weggespült werden
        Wrong neighbor kek, look a bit further north.

        noticed that all of these are Hk243's, is leafistan oblast really the only place real G36's are available? It seems really wierd that specifically we would get them and literally nobody else
        >burgerville
        Banned thanks to fricked burger import laws & even more fricked kraut import laws except by law letter supahspeshul SOT order
        >yuropoor
        from what I hear the germoid government doesn't like letting civillians have them, even though there are FBI safe/semi trigger packs for them evwerywhere, but I know much less about euro gun laws in general
        >everywhere else
        probably not going to see a G36 due to infringed gun rights and general lack of reason to import german plastic ar18s
        >herr trudeau's socialist shithole
        100% unrestricted, you pass the basic "I can into firearms" course you can order them to your front door unregistered and the government cannot legally stop you from packing them around the bush 24/7/365
        t. ordered one to my front door and packs it around the bush 24/7/365

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm actually amazed they exported legit G36s, let alone to leafland.
          The 243 is the next best thing, definitely better than tommybuilt hack jobs, but the fat ass barrel is kinda meh, I'd prefer a regular K profile.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/kpSb1v3.jpeg

      This but unironically.

      isn't the steyr aug even more polymer-laden?
      then again, the austrians seem to be the less gay germany that doesn't rub shit all over itself that often
      greetings from krautistan btw

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >isn't the steyr aug even more polymer-laden?

        Nope, the AUG's receiver is aluminum, neighbor-kun. You win the plastic Olympics.
        (I like the G36 better though.)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so the g36 isn't as shit as it was claimed?
          or just not as shit if the choice is these two guns?
          greetings to you too
          die fdp muss weggespült werden
          totaler /kamera/endisieg gegen die /skibidi/fraktion

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a perfectly adequate combat rifle.
            The only utterly dogshit thing about it is the original dual combat optic.
            (I absolutely love the concept and the looks though, so I went out of my way to get one on eGuns and I keep it on at all times.)
            The mags are too thick and clumsy, but you can get a STANAG magwell which means it's a non-issue.
            Lack of attachment points and non-adjustable LoP can be solved by the new (butt ugly) furniture.
            Really, the only inherently bad (in retrospect) design choice is that any optics you put on it will have to ride a bit too high, because the picatinny rail has to be high to allow you to reach the charging handle.
            100% reliable otherwise and impressively accurate despite the sort of mushy trigger.

            >die fdp muss weggespült werden
            Wrong neighbor kek, look a bit further north.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              okay
              also, i may not be a funs-haver but damn do yourself a favor and get a proper set of circ-lip pliers
              what's a "dual combat optic"?
              thanks for your summary btw
              >further north
              pancake bro?
              'zellig bro?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >damn do yourself a favor and get a proper set of circ-lip pliers
                Yeah I know this rebranded chinkshit is far from ideal, but this thing and the MP5 were literally the only two times I ever needed snap ring pliers in years, you guys really love them for some reason.

                >what's a "dual combat optic"?
                The thing in the pic. It was made by Hensoldt, has a red dot on top (well it's not a real red dot but a fiber optic with a LED) and a 3x scope at the bottom.
                See the tiny plastic tubes on the table?
                *That* is the scope. No, that's literally it.
                And this is how it maintains zero btw.

                >further north
                Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren :^)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for entertaining my ignorance anon
                is there any book you'd reccomend for a non-funs haver who isn't really into shooting or anything but interested in the engineering behind guns?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sadly the only interesting ones that I got my hands on were in the cursed clusterfrick of slavo-germanic inbreeding and outright fabrication that is the Czech language.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder, the G36 controversy was over blown shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why the frick did you post that homosexualry?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why did you post a video featuring a person I don't personally like?! Don't you know this board revolves around me
        Sit and spin nerd.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >rustled status:
          RENT FREE AND PRE-PROJECTING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice tittle mags.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PROJECTINGGGGG LMAOOOOOO
    He laughs to cover up the seethe he feels.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I bet his father looks at him like how Ian looks at that rifle.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I bet
        you lost Black person, pay up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ian

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well yeah, that is the man's name.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was the L85A1 that bad?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, don't worry. Germany fixed it for them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it has some slight ergonomic and quality control problems.
        altho the worst is probably the firing pin, to the point where it was not uncommon to carry a quiver of spares.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jeez

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was comprehensively bad, there's basically no component of the gun that could be said to be well designed. Even static parts like the green furniture; which you might think are just molded plastic and impossible to frick up; would melt on contact with the issued bug repellent. With the sheer amount of parts that the Germans had to replace (new receiver, new furniture, new bolt and dust cover, in GWOT they also got new rails and mags (their very own P-mag called the E-mag, because the L85 bizarrely isn't compatible with OTS stanag mags) and optics), the A2 may as well be considered a new rifle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How did they frick up that badly

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the engineers making it hadn't worked on guns before and the factory making them was due to close soon after production began. So lack of institutional knowledge and motivation conspired to frick up the 5-10% that makes a rifle actually useable

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why would you want people who've never worked on -thing- make -thing- for you? Are the Brits dumb

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its kinda sad really. MoD had been interested in bullpups for ages, see the EM-2 for example. FAL was adopted to keep in line with NATO standards. Fast forward through over a decade of designs and testing on a bullpup ar-18 conversion in 4.85mm and the whole project gets bricked by the US standardising on 5.56mm. So the in-progress designs are hastily changed while staffing problems gut the testing process. The whole thing is gasping for air even in the 70s. Then Thatcher's government accelerates the de-industrialisation process and the whole thing gets even worse before being shoved out the door in '85 half baked and ready to fail, but the army needs the guns because by now its 50's FALs are beat to shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lighting in a bottle happens sometimes. Iirc Gaston Glock designed curtain rods before the pistol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And he created the most overrated slop on the handgun market

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why would you want people who've never worked on -thing- make -thing- for you? Are the Brits dumb

              There was something legitimately fricked about British small arms design in the 70-80s.
              They put a magnified optic on the L1A1's wobbly ass thin stamped metal DUST COVER, and not even directly on it, there is a mount in between that wobbles as well.
              Like ????? dude I'm not an engineer and I know that's not gonna hold proper zero for shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I suspect it has something to do with the expertise that built the British arms industry all ageing out post-war without enough of the knowledge being passed down. By the 70's there were too few empire-heads left to keep it working, and without a hunting/gun culture in the general population the niche just died.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bought an Israeli SUSAT optic at a pawn shop thinking it’d mount on an AR carry handle. It’d attach but wouldn’t zero properly. Turns out it was for a Galil after all. Sold it to some guy on Reddit who had a Galil sniper build and this was the last piece he needed to complete the build.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            IIRC they literally said the arsenal was going to shut down and everyone would be laid off once the design was finished. Needless to say, the engineers weren't especially motivated and gungho about the project.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they're british, they'e too busy jerking off about free healthcare to do anything else

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You tell them bestie!!!!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bongistani's haven't made a good standard issue rifle since the Lee Enfield. Makes me wonder if there are units that aren't pozzed and therefore allowed to still operating with their three O hate waffle blasters.

        its kinda sad really. MoD had been interested in bullpups for ages, see the EM-2 for example. FAL was adopted to keep in line with NATO standards. Fast forward through over a decade of designs and testing on a bullpup ar-18 conversion in 4.85mm and the whole project gets bricked by the US standardising on 5.56mm. So the in-progress designs are hastily changed while staffing problems gut the testing process. The whole thing is gasping for air even in the 70s. Then Thatcher's government accelerates the de-industrialisation process and the whole thing gets even worse before being shoved out the door in '85 half baked and ready to fail, but the army needs the guns because by now its 50's FALs are beat to shit.

        >because by now its 50's FALs are beat to shit.
        Tell that to Brazilian favela SS and half of Africa who still uses them on a regular basis against gangs and ISIS aligned insurgencies. So long as your not fighting in the Sinai peninsula your probably fine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the seethe he feels.
      so you really don't know what "projecting" means then?
      commies are like the gifts of endless moronation no one asked for
      im still laughing at you btw

  6. 3 weeks ago
    SAGE

    >stealth 'tuber thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      leviathan always bombards /k/ with "random" posts always attaching a pic of carcanotoe for whatever reason, none of their other proteges get any airtime around here

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thats just an ar18 though

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Krauts buying grots when?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it true the Germans were accepting Russian designs before the Ukrainian war as a potential replacement?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, for the new assault rifle the contenders in 2017 were Sig Sauer MCX, Steyr RS556, Haenel CR223 and HK. Sig Sauer got out due to the requirement that absolutely no part could be under ITAR legislation. Haenel won the trials, but the well timed lawsuit from HK about the drainage used in the receiver by Haenel took care of that. Interestingly, all the procurement officials were not so sad about that because they could not fathom that Haenel, a company with like 10 employees, could possibly manufacture and supply the amounts needed themselves. The reality would have probably been breaching the contract by getting grey imports from Caracal leading to a complete disaster of the whole procurement. Other than that? Yes, the first versions of the G36 had mounting points for the AK74 bayonet. Every other piece of soviet equipment that was inherited from the DDR was phased out as fast as possible, even (back then) brand new Mi helis - and I don't think anybody ever thought about buying russian stuff ever again since then.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the concept of the integral dual optics, however I think they’re probably pretty dated. Also, the rifle has had some issues over the years with sustained fire and reliability/durability problems.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should do a special edition of the HL243 that makes it look like the STG-44.

    I bet it would sell like hot cakes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay so maybe this is a moronic question but, all those guns from WW2. The blueprints still exist or whatever right? Why does no one make and sell them? Surely there's a market?
      I guess its just too expensive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You guess correctly.
        While the designs and how to manufacture them is known the tools are missing.
        Tool manufacturing is really expensive and especially for low quantities not worth it, even more so with calibers that are oddities today.
        Doesn't help that most older guns used manufacturing methods which are more expensive than our modern options, worst case scenario they need to be hand fitted.
        All of droves up cost which in turn minimizes the customer base and thus kills profitability.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        First the original design will have full auto, which is illegal to sell.
        Second they would still need to make the design more durable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >which is illegal to sell
          For now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some german companies CNC original al mauser 98 systems, but the prices are ridiculous.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait till you find out Germany's intention to pick up the Textron NGSW and caseless ammo

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I kind of want to get my SL-8 converted into a bundeswher G36 clone.

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