>gen 1 FLIR. >dual I-TOW. >25mm autocannon when the international standard is 20mm/23mm

>gen 1 FLIR
>dual I-TOW
>25mm autocannon when the international standard is 20mm/23mm
>resistant to 14.5mm on all sides
>organic support for Dragon or Javelin cav scout teams
>fantastic P/W ratio, much faster than an M60 and on par with the Abrams. Reverse speed superior to any Russian tank
>all of this in 1980
>meanwhile the Russians have not quite finished the BMP-2
On a scale of 1-10, how much of a slam dunk was this one?

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    We'll get to see soon when they have to fight against an actual semi-competent military force instead of a bunch of arabs in the desert

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      already got one

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We'll get to see soon when they have to fight against an actual semi-competent military force instead of a bunch of arabs in the desert

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are we invading Mexico?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians are less competent than Arabs. We've already established that.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >against an actual semi-competent military force
      What, like the 1st Guard's "routed to humvees" Tank Army?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      it all depends on the crew really.

      steppe isn't that much different than desert.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The dunked on Iraq back when they were the worlds 4th largest military and had more working T-72s than Russia.
      The only difference is this time they are going to be forced to fight at much closer ranges due to terrain. There will be losses but anyone expecting to fight a war without losses is moronic.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly think that the Iraqi Army in 1991 was a more powerful and professional force than the majority of the Russian forces are in 2023.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      It'll be interesting to see how the Bradley performs against Russia instead of the Iraqi Army, which was largely poorly-trained conscripts equipped with T-62s and BMP-1s... oh wait.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        it will probably get shot at a lot more due to the closer terrain if ukraine actually goes on the attack with it

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fantastic P/W ratio

    It can only do 32mph. It couldn't even keep up with a Challenger 2, let alone an Abrams.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      shut the frick up dumbass

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      acceleration & mobility is more useful in war than top speed

      moron

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        You said it could keep up with Abrams, it can't. Why lie? or are you stupid?

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          not me moron
          >max speed of Bradley: 65 km/h
          >max speed of Abrams (first variant): 72 km/h

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >implying an Abrams is going to be doing 72 km/h in battle
            Maybe in the fricking Saudi desert but not in Europe.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              well 72 km/h was always its road speed. Its much more like 55-60 km/h off road

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even that is over the top lmao. You're looking at that speed for sprints between overwatch positions, a Bradley is going to be a few hundred meters back popping shit with its autocannon and looking for spots to drop its dismounts. Like really if the tanks are at the front dealing with things that can kill other tanks the Bradley has no business loitering or worse kicking out its infantry.

                I know what you're saying and I'm not arguing with you anon, just pointing out that the vatnik is moronic.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're looking at that speed for sprints

                Don't think you know how gas turbines work, it's more efficient to run them flat out.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can't wait to see your friends get popped by 25mm vanya

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have to wait to see Bradley getting rekt

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Dennis stop shitposting or you'll be late for moron school

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >abrams hit
                >moves to safety
                >crew gets out, hurt but alive

                >vodkawagen hit
                >turret and crew in orbit

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                daily reminder this was a hit with the hatch literally left open

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                If the hatches were closed the overpressure would have killed them.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                pic

                >>25mm autocannon when the international standard is 20mm/23mm

                The international standard is actually 30 mm.

                the average ifv in 1980 did not have a 30mm

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shitty western design forcing the wounded crew to climb out of the tank, superior Russian tanks eject the crew at the moment of impact.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                BAWHAWHAHAHA

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >vatniks think the crew surviving is a design flaw
                Many such cases

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, he's not at school he's been a mentally ill adult for almost a decade

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              I bet I can post more dead BMPs with dead churkas next to them than exist pictures of destroyed bradleys

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure you can, post away, i love dead vatniks

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Of course Bradley's are going to be fricking destroyed in Ukraine, they're not some magic wunderwaffen. There will also definitely be destroyed Leo 1's, 2A4's, probably a few Abrams when they get there... stuff goes wrong in war and it's impossible to keep everything and everyone alive. BUT that being said, all those Western vehicles are going to be leaps and bounds better than their Soviet era counterparts. You at least have a chance of surviving in a piece of NATO equipment instead of absolute certain death in a Soviet piece of shit. And the optics/night vision/thermals in Western equipment are so superior to Soviet shit that you can't even put them in the same ballpark.

              It's going to be a really annoying day when the pictures of the first destroyed Leopard or Bradley comes out of Ukraine because Russia is going to parade it around for months as if it's somehow a sign they're winning while completely ignoring the THOUSANDS of pictures of destroyed Russian equipment.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      When I was in a Mechanized Infantry unit. I brought this up to my Battalion Master Gunner. He told me they have governor's on them for when they're not down range. Similar to the blue screw on a PEQ15 you take out when you deploy for more power. Apparently they can push 40+.

      Personally, fastest my driver ever got us was 39mph (going down a hill lol)

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He told me they have governor's on them for when they're not down range.

        That applies to Abrams too. They can get up to over 100 km/h on road without the governor. This does of course wear a lot on the tracks and roadwheel bearings.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Couldn't imagine the fuel consumption on an Abrams Turbine engine going 60 mph.

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    All in all it was a good choice not just for capability which is a pretty significant jump to the BMP/BTR variants Ukraine has mostly been using but also because there's a frickload of them so it would be much easier to get replacement vehicles and spare parts. The only downside is really the older thermals. 30mm resistance to the front will be great against Russian light armor.

    Is there any info on what TOW missile they're operating? I don't think the US announcements mentioned what specific type. I know they have the FGM-148C javelin variants which IIRC where late 1990s. The TOW tandem charge and top attack variants are also from around that time period so I'm assuming they are probably being supplied those versions.

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    very good vehicle. it's high, fairly lightly armored, but the capabilities it has are frankly insane

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Capabilities
      Anon. Good optics and a stable gun platform/ATGM aren't the wonderwaffen you think they are, outside of that it's a pretty mediocre vehicle, if you don't only compare it to only Russian vehicles anyway, but it's an IFV box in tracks so who cares outside of autists like Dennis and Warriortard.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Anon. Good optics and a stable gun platform/ATGM aren't the wonderwaffen you think they are
        Better than unstabilzed and No ATGM by a mile

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tall as shit and for it's size has very lackluster passenger capacity

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >meanwhile the Russians have not quite finished the BMP-2

    the bradley could not fulfill the same role a BMP-2 does, it is why nobody really uses it outside of the US, and even in the Ukraine it is kind of a meme

    if i was a crewman i would want to be in a bradley, if i was a commander trying to invade a country i would want a BMP

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>25mm autocannon when the international standard is 20mm/23mm

    The international standard is actually 30 mm.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    far less than bmp 1 was when it was launched

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    10

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    CHADV90 REPORTING IN

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Genuinely better than bradley

  11. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >On a scale of 1-10, how much of a slam dunk was this one?
    I'd say... Second to none.

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