Guessing this is the best board to ask this in.
I live near a massive and poorly monitored nuclear waste storage pile. Our drinking water pipes plus the municipal well are very close to it. Wife read an article about it and her highschool cancer rate (which is almost next door to the storage pile) and is now terrified and wants me to get Geiger counter and regularly test our shit. Already sent off a water sample plus radon test, need Geiger counter recommendation.
We live in Missouri btw. Idiotic picture for attention.
Atom Fast 8850
Way cheaper and more useful for your situation.
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what does this have to do with weapons? you best post on diy
radon gas detectors only detect radon gas, the nuclear storage near you does not produce radon gas, that shit is naturally underground and seeps into your basement.
I got pic related, its pretty cheap now. these where $80 before the war and n0000k threads, ive seen these as high as $140. not sure if it will work on water. you'll have to fill a huge drum of water and place the counter near it to see if its giving off anything above background
Have those at our institute to test rock samples inthe field
I'm not asking b or pol for anything beyond porn. K is the most reliable and full of experts in very random shit.
Plan was to use the hot water tank as a scan target once a week. She's freaking out over this, so to keep her sane (and not demanding we move again) buying what you posted. Thanks.
Thanks, will get one as well.
>the most reliable and full of experts in very random shit.
have you been to PrepHole before?
anyway, im getting 40% above background radiation next to my tank, i got well water from 180feet below ground. not sure what this means
nothingburger
Anon, background radiation varies. Didn't your Geiger counter come with a little yellow plastic card with different radiation levels on it?
A good rule of thumb is anything above 0.3 is normal, 0.3 to 0.5 is something you should keep an eye on, and anything above 0.5 is abnormal.
yes, and as I stated, my water tank is about 40% above normal background radiation for my area.
it hit 21 svh near the tank, elsewhere its normally 14s svh or below
Where the fuck do you live to have 0.5 be normal?
How long was your sample period?
about 10-15 minutes
>Where the fuck do you live to have 0.5 be normal?
High elevation and I've spent a lot of time exploring old uranium infrastructure so I guess my safety limits are a bit higher lol
>0.5
still negligible.
>anyway, im getting 40% above background radiation
Natural background radiation varies immensely from place to place. 18µSv/h is not an amount to worry about. But...
Some do, but I'm pretty sure the one in doesn't.
Also the water tank itself is an effectively 100% proof alpha shield, so even if you with a meter that can detect alpha radiation you can't measure it from the outside like that. A single piece of regular paper can be a significant barrier to alpha particles.
>we move again
Look up cancer clusters and see if your in one, and consider moving if so. There's a reason only poor white trash and blacks live in those places.
If you're talking about Cold Creek or Mallinckrod, a lot of clean up has been done already but I sure as shit wouldnt live in the same area
Neither, the rock pile out in Warrenton. They made a fucking poorly monitored and constructed nuclear waste and processing plant into a fucking tourist spot by placing 75 feet of gravel over the site and putting stairs to the top. Municipal wells are near by and they only really monitor limited areas. Lied to students and families for YEARS about the shit. Many teachers my wife had are now either dead, dying, or have had cancer.
EPA claims the water into the school (and wells around the area) is at or below the recommended max daily dose of 0.185 becquerels per liter. Water treatment plant says same thing on the water that leaves the plant. I don't know enough about radiation and how it effects drinking water to understand clearly if it's safe.
But if my testing doesn't cause the magic clicking box to go apeshit, guessing it's fine.
Right?
Meant to say Weldon springs but nooooo. I'm op and I'm retarded.
Here's the article she saw and freaked out over. https://missouriindependent.com/2023/10/25/weldon-spring-uranium-plant-contaminated-missouri-lakes-with-radioactive-waste/
Tell your wife it doesn't matter if the water is radioactive you're fucked by forever chemicals and microplastics anyway
>But if my testing doesn't cause the magic clicking box to go apeshit, guessing it's fine.
this honestly sounds like a question for reddit where some professor can answer that question.
I dont know how you can properly test water with a gieger counter, I feel like there is a dedicated device for this.
As an analytical chemist, I'd say no. You're measuring the momentary radiation release of the water with a gieger, but the concern is that you have emitters in it at a high enough concentration that they can accumulate in your body to a significant level. I'd be running a MS analysis on the water to determine the concentration of the various contaminants, with a fancy MS capable of telling apart the different isotopes of the various elements if I really needed to know since you'll have inert and radioactive forms of the same element. You'd also want to consider the type of emitter, since as noted earlier in the thread, an alpha emitter is fine as long as you're not ingesting or breathing it but is very bad once it's inside your skin, and drinking it, cooking with it, and any hot water steam during a shower would result in internal dosages. That being said, that sort of analysis might be pricey and is what the EPA should be doing unless they have a different workflow that I'm not thinking of, so could always make a freedom of information request to see the actual results if the EPA doesn't publish them and I would trust the results since the government scientists I've worked with take publishing the truth to be a very serious deal even if it means screwing over another agency.
Thanks for the explanation. So if I'm understanding right, a buildup of alpha type radiation over time can cause issues?
Which explains why the teachers have been having health issues and dying. Awesome.
I trust the water company as they are testing the outlet water quarterly and reporting publicly the numbers (but without the scale mentioned, just the number), EPA hasn't I can find. The water company should be calling me today and I'll ask for the testing lab they use, send off a sample of my water to that same lab. If it shuts my wife up about it, I'll pay for it.
Wife has now signed up for a full body exam for skin cancer (her mom was a chunk removed two weeks ago) and breast cancer. She's approaching full retard status on this....help.
>K
PrepHole fucks around with these gadgets as well.
This is the one I use. It's small enough to fit in your jacket's breast pocket, has audiovisual "ticks", and has USB capability to export stored data to your computer and track trends. It comes with a rechargeable cell, but you can also run it off AA's too. I use mine for samples and for urbexing in potential hot zones, since you can synchronize its internal clock to your navigation points and build a rough map of hot areas. Very compact and well made machine.
Well, for one thing geiger counters don't measure alpha radiation.
The water tank is not a good place to check because it will act like a settling tank and a lot of the Hispanicy particulates will collect at the bottom. Fill up a bucket straight from the well and test it.
I flush my water heater, and pressure tank twice a year.
that being said, my 5 gallon reverse osmosis tank does show higher readings.
I wonder if the natural gas line is the culprit.
What's going on here?
Radioactive immigrants
don't worry about it.
I wouldn't.
Get a Radiacode.
>~300€
>scintillation detector and spectrometer; tells you what kind of radiation spectrum you're getting
>0,001 - 10 Sv range
>easily fits in any pocket
>up to 200 hours on a single charge
I got the 101 version last year and it's been great.
>tells you what kind of radiation
While it gives you a good look at the X-ray and gamma ray spectrum, it seems entirely incapable of detecting beta and alpha radiation.
find anything 'hot'?
>Idiotic picture
??? I want a ciws mounted on a hijet.
As someone that works in nuclear.. i dont get the worry. Do you realise the doses your talking about? Airline workers recieve god knows how many more times a dose than a nuke worker. Tell your wife to stop flying if she is that scared of radiation
Literally why I asked in /k/. There's fucking engineers and CBRN experts in here.
I tried that, have you ever tried explaining shit to a hysterical woman? It's like trying to get a toddler to explain astrophysics. She's insisting that her 4 years of drinking the water and being next to the site is making her piss glow.
If spending 250 bucks in Geiger counters that I can play with makes her happy, I'll take it.
get a gieger counter and show her how ~~*~~*((radioactive*~~*~~*~~)) everything is.
Just remember its illegal to have one in New York City.
Why?
74D for the military aka chemical biological radio-logical nuclear specialist here
the reading you got is within background variance
and even if they literally didn't bury the waste and piled it above ground it wouldn't effect your water supply
there are four types of ionizing radiation (the deadly stuff) alpha beta gamma and neutron
neutron radiation is the radiation that can irradiate other materials and nuclear waste does not emit neutron radiation typically gamma and beta the danger of radioactive waste is if it burns which it will on its own the smoke will be radioactive smoke breathable very hazardous
Do you have a geiger counter recommendation?
atomfast - get a scintillator, not geiger
what this guy said scintillator type counter is better than a geiger for your purposes
AtomFast vs Radiacode? AtomFast seems to be more sensitive
stollen from reddit
You want a dosimeter