> garbage dump

> garbage dump
Is it not a warcrime to chase Wagnerites away from their natural habitat?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >topic is garbage
    fitting for a pro-ukrainian thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe harder

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        russia deserves what they have coming to them, but both sides are corrupt. don't waste your time trying to butter me up. just because vatmorons are becoming the fertilizer they deserve to be doesn't mean ukraine gets a pass for their subhuman behavior.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it’s not thinly veiled vatmoronism I swear!
          all fucking r*ssians must fucking hang

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine has demonstrated more ability to learn and grow in the last 6 years than Russia has demonstrated in the last 600. They deserve a chance in a way thar Russia never could.

            Ukrainians literally made a revolution back in 2014 to get rid of corruption. And they made huge strides in order to turn their country into a functioning democracy. Yes, lots still needs to be done. But it would be childish to assume that more could've been done in such short timeframe, especially with ongoing war with vatniks.

            https://i.imgur.com/Ufrf1QS.png

            >both sides are the same
            Nope.

            >noooooooo! you can't hate both sides or else you're a russian
            I'm not saying they're the same. Russia is leagues worse, but that doesn't make Ukraine redeemable and people can't seem to get it through their fucking heads.

            After Russia finishes losing this war, Ukraine will have no moral footing left. Imagine simping for a government with plenty of blood on its hands just because they kill your enemy.

            Would you simp for North Korea if they went to war with China, too?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >That doesn't make ukraine redeemable
              That doesn't make any sense because they've already redeemed themselves. This is just more 5th columnist concern trolling. We don't care how shitty Ukraine used to be, we're not abandoning it to be shitty forever like Russia.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >already redeemed themselves
                Get the fuck out of here. They have top-down systematic corruption. It takes more than 8 years to undo that much embedded foulness from a culture.

                The mass grave should be as follows:
                Russians first
                Ukranians second
                Complacent enablers third (this is you)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                keep seething.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Please sacrifice Ukraine to us, it's just as shitty as we are anyways, why do you care?
                Very strange cope. Russia must be losing big today.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_is_the_enemy_of_good
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_off_one%27s_nose_to_spite_one%27s_face

                Congratulations on the fundamentally retarded worldview that you're clearly proud to have. It's a good thing you don't get to make decisions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                what do you think lobbying is
                why do you think Schröder is on Gazprom's payroll
                every single country is corrupted to hell
                western politicians are just not retarded, so they leave enough scraps to keep the masses docile

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >drink with 10% sugar and 40% sugar are exactly the same, they both have sugar, there is no difference between them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                more like 35 vs 40

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >35%
                >lobbying
                >5%
                >real police, real criminal justice system, real voting, infrastructure money don't disappear into pockets of oligarchs, real military, government answers to people
                yeah...right...

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              What precisely has Ukraine ever done that makes it irredeemable? I'm enough of an old softie that I think even some Russians are redeemable, and the Ukies are doing their best to not go down the historical shitter with their abusive brothers.

              I wouldn't simp for either party, but at least it would be one less nutty dictator around.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Getting closer to the west has been proven to improve lives and rights around 90% of the times.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Would you simp for North Korea if they went to war with China, too?
              That would be hilarious.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Would you simp for North Korea if they went to war with China, too?
              Yeah actually, I probably would, but in more of a "go get em champ" kind of way than a "I support what they stand for" kind of way.

              What precisely has Ukraine ever done that makes it irredeemable? I'm enough of an old softie that I think even some Russians are redeemable, and the Ukies are doing their best to not go down the historical shitter with their abusive brothers.

              I wouldn't simp for either party, but at least it would be one less nutty dictator around.

              The problem is mostly that the Ukranians are trying to adopt and parade around all the worst aspects of the west, they should have gone for a constitutional republic instead of a "democracy" where big cities and corrupt politicians decide everyone elses fate regardless. In fact it wasn't until after the invasion happened the Ukranians realized that strict gun laws were a bad Idea, and I find it highly unlikely they will loosen civilian arms restrictions when it is over.

              On the other hand I am very curious as to what would happen in Russia should it become blatantly obvious that they lost to the general public.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >On the other hand I am very curious as to what would happen in Russia should it become blatantly obvious that they lost to the general public.
                Nothing, Russians are a nation of cucks

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Ukraine will have no moral footing left. Imagine simping for a government with plenty of blood on its hands just because the

              Fuck off you retarded double moron. Ukraine got invaded twice. It can flatten moscow if it wants.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >After Russia finishes losing this war, Ukraine will have no moral footing left.
              >moral footing
              What the fuck are you on about? Is this some shit about the Odesa fires or the supposed Six Million Donbas Kids? Or are you trying to make the argument that the Ukrainian government sending its citizens off to die fighting Russia is somehow "immoral". It's quite clear that if not, Ukraine would regress back to being a Russian puppet state, or worse.

              >Would you simp for North Korea if they went to war with China, too?
              Sounds fun to watch until the nukes start flying. But like the nukes flying, that's never going to happen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine has demonstrated more ability to learn and grow in the last 6 years than Russia has demonstrated in the last 600. They deserve a chance in a way thar Russia never could.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine has demonstrated more ability to learn and grow in the last 6 years
            Ukraine sits on piles of mineral resources, has one of the most fertile soil in the world, access to sea and Danube and still was poorer than some subsaharan countries even before the war.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, being wrapped up in the USSR and suffering post-Soviet Russian meddling did a real number on a lot of nations, now that Russian global influence is dead they can really start to recover.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Ukraine sits on piles of mineral resources, has one of the most fertile soil in the world, access to sea and Danube and still was poorer than some subsaharan countries even before the war.
              Legacy of Russian occupation is a hell of a thing to get over.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              And before 2014 it was a political and economic colony of Russia and sucked dry of any wealth. After they broke free their main priority was to build up the military because they fucking knew Russia won't accept the loss.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's le ebil russia plundering our economy, I swear Ukrainian oligarchs have nothing to do with it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Literally yes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And whom these oligarchs were? Mostly "former" KGB operatives. And as the saying goes, you never leave the KGB. All of them were directly answerable to Moscow.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And whom these oligarchs were? Mostly "former" KGB operatives.
                You literally made it up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't. Most of the oligarchs came either directly from KGB or from Komsomol or the crime underworld, the latter two were also fully controlled by the KGB.

                You literally couldn't go rich during the Perestroika era or shortly after without KGB's seal of approval.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Most of the oligarchs came either directly from KGB
                Show 1 (one)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mikhail Fridman
                Viktor Pinchuck
                The Surkis Brothers

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Pro-Russian candidate propped by Russia is ex-criminal that steals enormous amount of money and gives all benefits to his pro-Russian criminal friends
                >after he is chased out of country Russia instantly starts a war on Ukrainian territory and plunders everything their greedy hands get to
                hmmm...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Putin literally nigged out. He could've assassinated Yanukovich for failing him (and presented it as a "gesture of good will" towards the rebel forces), then waited until the revolutionary committee inevitably shat the bed (as they all do), then come up with a nicer, shinier, less shit-covered pro-Russian candidate.
                He would have taken the country back circa 2017-2018.
                But no, he chimped out because banan, and it all went downhill.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have very poor understanding of the situation if you think
                1. anyone cared about Yanukovich after he fled from country
                2. government would be in worse situation if they didn't have to fight war against 10 times stronger enemy in industrial part of it's country and having another chunk of their region completely stolen

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I remember what happened with the reformist movement after 2004, when Yushchenko and Timoshenko decided to feud with each other, leading to the entire reformist wing being weakened.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So 2014 would went the same way as 2004 if only Russia just did nothing. Despite the fact that we can clearly see that 2014 didn't go the same way as 2004

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If Putin sat on his ass back in 2014 then Ukraine would be probably gearing towards the EU but not NATO and there would be still much warm feeling between populations.

                Ukries genuinely wanted to be let to go their own way but maintain good relations with Russia.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                wouldn't have worked that way. Pro-Russians would still chimpout in Southern and Eastern Ukraine, only now in Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea they'd have their teeth kicked in the same as in Kharkiv or Odesa. This would create animosity between countries. Not to extent to how it was after Russia attacked but they would not be friendly countries

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah. because russhits invaded and created a very tangible example of what future russia has envisioned for ukraine for all the previously pro-russian ukrainians to see.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukrainian oligarchs
                Direct consequence of russian occupation.
                Try harder, brown russian apologist.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I swear future historians will theorize that Zelensky caused this war on purpose just to guilt trip Europe in marshal planning them, because by all accounts Ukraine has all the conditions to become the economic center of gravity of East Europe, they just don't have the investment

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I swear future historians will theorize that Zelensky caused this war on purpose
                By being elected on a platform of rapprochement with Russia and trying to enact that platform by continually making concessions to Russia, right up till February 23rd 2022?
                This fucking narrative you're try to push of Zelensky being some kind of turbo nationalist pre-2022 doesn't fit with the facts.

                This war is entirely Putin's choice, Putin chimped out and tried to grab banan because he thought Ukraine was weak. The lesson is, never give any concession to Russia, never show any weakness, never expect anything but hostility because they are literal morons and if you relax around them for a second, expect to get stabbed in the back.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed. In fact, if you really want to criticize Zelenskyy, I think the best way to do it would be to accuse him of having been TOO nice to Russia. A niceness that Putin probably interpreted as weakness, which further convinced him that invading Ukraine was a good idea.
                Then again, if he had been tougher on Russia, maybe he would not have been elected, but still.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think the best way to do it would be to accuse him of having been TOO nice to Russia
                Absolutely, Zelesnky was desperate for a non war related, diplomatic resolution to this and hampered his army from taking better positions against the assembling forces at his borders because he was hoping against hope that they can talk this out.
                Needless to say, he won't be making that mistake again anytime soon.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Euromaidan and this war both kicked off because Ukraine was busy trying to change that by shifting their market towards the EU instead of constantly getting into one-sided deals with Russia.
              They weren't poor because they lacked an economy, they were poor because corruption and Russian influence constantly caused them to barely make profit on their exports and industry.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Russians and their shills love talking about how poor Ukraine is, but not why. Funny how Ukrainian self determination is for all intents and purposes a fledgling concept and yet since its inception it grew to be capable of challenging Russia in the field.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Funny how Ukrainian self determination is for all intents and purposes a fledgling concept
                Not even close. Ukrainian nationalism has been a problem for the Muscovites for literal centuries, hence shit like the Holodomor. One of the Nazis biggest errors during Operation Barbarossa was using the Ukrainians as slave labor instead of helping them set up their own state.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              As are all countries under Russian influence.
              Recovery takes a while. Poland only started to get their shit together in the last decade or so.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukrainians literally made a revolution back in 2014 to get rid of corruption. And they made huge strides in order to turn their country into a functioning democracy. Yes, lots still needs to be done. But it would be childish to assume that more could've been done in such short timeframe, especially with ongoing war with vatniks.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was just seeding east zog for west zog

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >both sides are the same
          Nope.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            before the war I said that, but the war has concretely proven otherwise. a hopelessly corrupt country simply can't organize military operations as effectively as Ukraine has. Obviously it's not squeaky clean but which country is? At least progress is made, as this meme depicts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Read up on euromaidan you fool

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What does it matter retard? USA is corrupt. EU is corrupt. Everyone is corrupt. Ukrainians didn't attack anyone so they are 100% in the right to genocide every last Russia.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >both sides are corrupt
          classic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Gud post

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What does it matter retard? USA is corrupt. EU is corrupt. Everyone is corrupt. Ukrainians didn't attack anyone so they are 100% in the right to genocide every last Russia.

            I'm sure these two posters would get along just fine...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Woah there OP. Imagine actually defending a landfill in that kind of modern HE artillery warfare. Wager actually trying o create something worse than ww1

      Go drink piss in another thread gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every single one of these threads instantly spawns a seething vatmoron
      Do you get push notifications for this shit, or what?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're brown

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      seethium

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      look how you got the shills seething, well done

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Considering many of them come from Russian prisons and eastern shit hole towns, a garbage dump might have been seen as a step up

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Send another wave?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russians still haven't took Bakhmut?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, it took them months to take the hyperfortress of piss-key with 16 inhabitants on record, what do you think they'll need to take the meta-hyper-omega citadel of Bakhmut?
      They've been stuck in the outskirts for 2 to 3 months now, with almost daily attempts by platoon-level forces and constant artillery, and it all has barely budged at all.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Apparently they never took 100% of the Pisky superfortress. Ukrainians still hold some positions under the destroyed bridge.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a mystery to me why they are even trying. There are far better targets, strategically, near by that deserve this kind of attention.
      If you're going to send men to there death, in the hope of territorial gain, wouldn't you choose somewhere more tactically important?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A performance bonus for Prigozhin (and his close underlings), payable upon capture of Bakhmut. He desperately needs to hit the sales target.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A performance bonus for Prigozhin (and his close underlings)
          This would have been unbelievable to me about 9 months ago. Now, I'm forced to question whether this true.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is very plausible. He's the head of Wagner PMC. They have been hiring prisoners a d throwing them against Bahmut for months now. You just need to consider that killing a prisoner with a long sentence is a net gain for the budget already.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            As the saying goes, reality can be implausible, fiction can't afford that luxury.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't believe that for a second. Money is a meaningless concept in Russia. If Russia loses the war they will have a change in leadership and whoever comes after Putin will 100% hang Prigozhin on red square. He should be personally invested in winning this war not taking random useless towns like Bakhmut.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Prigozhin is looking to a time after Putin. He wants to be able to say that his men, Wagnerites, took their assigned objectives. Such a perceived solid war record makes a solid base for leadership challenges.
        It's never about Ukraine for these old ghouls, it's always about increasing and shoring up their personal power.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In WW2 they would literally send tens of thousands to their deaths to capture this or that city for anniversaries such as Stalin's birthday or October Revolution. Or simply because some general or marshal ordered some strike, then forgot about it and didn't call it off.

        Russia just thinks differently than you do.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Russia is a special place, filled with very special people.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Checked. And correct. But you are looking at this through western sensibilities. Orders came through. You follow them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's simply to bring something to the people at home. They are desperate for any kind of victory

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds retarded, until you realize it's Wagner. The man at the top gets paid for all the land he takes, not a bad deal when you've got penal legions to spare.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Putin has made Bahamut his personal obsession now, can’t give up on it without losing face.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please understand, Mr.Armatageddon is only capable of applying one tactic, turning cities into rubble and calling it victory, now that artillery is mostly gone or out of ammo all he has are dumb bombs and iranian drones

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ultra Dimensional Fortress BAKHMUT will not fall.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ivan
    >ivan
    >IVAN
    >look there, this garbage dump
    >good point for our position, no?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes commissar
      yuo are genius

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        DANGEROUS RUSSIANS, TRAITORS AND FAGNERS WILL NOT STOP NATO ON ITS TRUMPHANT MARCH TOWARD SAVING UKRAINE

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    oh no no no z bros we have to retreat to lab x18, its over

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >in Russia
    What do Russian oligarchs have to do with Ukrainian economy?
    >Salamatin
    Career
    1983—1985 – served military obligations.[5]
    1985 – miner at Kuzembaeva mine.[5]
    1989—1991 – mine foreman of mining sector at the same place.[5]
    1991—1993 – consultant of Joint Venture Company SITEK (Moscow).[5]
    1993—1994 – Commercial Director of "Russkoe Toplivo" CJSC (Moscow).[5]
    1995—1996 – Chief Expert of "ROL" CJSC (Moscow).[5]
    1996—1997 – Principal Adviser of Milder International Ltd. Company (Moscow).[5]
    From 1998 – Presidential Adviser of the International Mining Congress for Interaction with Ukraine.[5]
    In April 1999 moved to Ukraine where he received Ukrainian citizenship in 2004.[5]
    When exactly he was a KGB operative? Between his shifts in the mine?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I admit I mixed him up with another guy, don't remember which now.

      Years ago I've read a book about Yanukovych's system and it was neatly explained how future Ukrainian oligarchs rose from the environment where KGB and the underworld overlapped. Their main asset was that they were both thugs with access to minor thugs for wet work AND that they had seal of approval from the services, who themselves profited from their operations.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >future Ukrainian oligarchs rose from the environment where KGB and the underworld overlapped
        This is true for entire eastern bloc.
        Criminals and secret service collaborators were also in prime position to gain power and wealth in czechia and to this day they and the holdings that arose from them control bulk of the economy.
        Luckily they seem mostly comfortable leeching on the western order - profits from western market, gibs from eu subsidies and security that rule of law provides to themselves and their ill gotten gains. For the most part they don't murder people anymore. Although some intimidation and bullying of smaller entrepreneurs still happens.

        Russian vor system and prison gang culture is cancer that needs to be excised from this world.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    now ukraine should sit back and kill another 2 thousand trying to take that stupid 2km again

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't reckon Wagnerians fighting inna garbage dump in that glorious movie of theirs

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't post some cukraina shit to this site u fag

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ex-polish t72m1r near bahmut.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why would I need to wait for Best Korea to fight China to start rooting for them

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