Future body armor

What is the future of personal body armor /k/?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Exoskeletons and infancy power armor

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >hiding his weak chin

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >posting the two most well-known scam companies in the entire industry after AR500
      why

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Please post some footage or other proof that SafeLife Defense body armor failed to stop a threat that it promised to stop.
        Every test of their FRAS so far has shown that it delivers.
        >MUH NJI
        Doesn't mean anything, if it works it's irrelevant if it's "officially" rated or not.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          NIJ testing does more than just firing a cartridge a few times to see if it stops it, they also do heat/cold and drop tests

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Every test of their FRAS so far has shown that it delivers.
          >>MUH NJI
          >Doesn't mean anything, if it works it's irrelevant if it's "officially" rated or not.
          This is a specifically bullet proof statement. Paying off DOJ does nothing to change the fact that testing proves resistance.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          ?t=1105
          Teardown shows Safelife FRAS literally a more expensive, lower quality Italian knockoff of SAS Hexar

          ?t=890

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is his frickin gay ass hat bulletproof as well?
      Also
      >infancy power armor
      Lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks men can keep running around with helmets and plate carriers with drones
        Sorry Black person but full body coverage is coming this century

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >infancy
          >power
          >armor
          >mini suits of power armor, piloted by infants

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks men can keep running around with helmets and plate carriers with drones
            Sorry Black person but full body coverage is coming this century

            Amored Tracked Drones with babies implanted in them

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm willing to bet there's anime about this exact thing

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I like this eye shield way more than i should.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Needs more armor

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            These guys were nasty in dark souls 2

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          why do that when they could just send machines into dangerous areas to kill with more efficiency and lower risk than a human could, except in particularly complex situations

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Of course.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          my face after I get shot in the head wearing a polyethylene baseball cap as armor

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >jawman
            frick I miss those threads

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Now I kind of want to get one of those $25 italian helmet shells to cut out a panel to up armor a baseball cap, but I'd never end up wearing it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      HRRRRRMMMMMM

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based techno union enjoyer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Missing the hat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >infancy power armor
      frick yeah, mechanized toddlers
      why feed troops for 18 years when you can stop at 18 months

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Smaller target, less overall armor required. Adult male sized power armor would be heavy as frick, but with an infant you only really need to give it an egg of tank armor placed inside an exoskeleton.
        Genius.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Can't you just use a robot then?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Robots can't be trusted with firearms and warfare. They don't know mercy, they don't understand the finality of death. Behind every trigger pull must be a human soul, otherwise we will forget the terrible cost associated with war.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >can't be trusted with firearms and warfare. They don't know mercy, they don't understand the finality of death
              So just like a zogbot then.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's why they banned abortion. Shore up the troop numbers. "GI" now stands for Gerber Infantry. Government owned and trained from birth to kill for Uncle Sam since mommy and daddy sold them for gas and crack.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          they banned duelling because trained military men kept killing each other and they decided it was a waste of money

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The future is mexoskeletons: Mexican day laborers duct taped to our bodies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Life imitates art.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > Having a neck

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >body armor
    >being this far behind the meta
    come on now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are those queers not wearing body armor anymore?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        high speed low drag bruh

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >dies from a hemopneumothorax
      >nothing personal
      But at least you looked like your hero garandgay

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if you want to stay alive you shouldnt be in a combat situation anyway.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What a moron you are.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't think anything is worth dying over being a slave is a great way to stay alive.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Gee, if that actually was a real issue we'd have a lot to talk about. How about you post some real world stats to back up your position?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >my lungs won't collapse if I get shot in the chest!
          moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not taking the chest rig over a slick pill.

      Hybrid 3d printing process? A scaffold of uncured but solid epoxy is filled with ceramic pellets of varying shape/size.
      >As the layers are printed, the ceramics are placed in the gaps of the scaffolding.
      >The pellets are printed over with a thin layer of epoxy before the next one is placed. Gaps are filled with more pellets instead of large amounts of epoxy.
      Or maybe a more traditional method?
      >Use uhwpe as a binder agent and heat press ceramic pellets into plate forms?

      I would go with option 2 for making proper armor. Official LIBA has locking pieces between each ball (which is why cylinders would be better for civies). You can order everything from McMaster carr. Its hard to beat the epoxy way though since there are so many types one has to work well for this. I've also supposed you could use a plastic(or metal) chicken wire mesh as a lattice before

      >melted milk jugs(uhwmpe)
      lol no, they're LDPE, HDPE, or PET. If you want high modulus you're going to have to buy a sheet.

      I realized my mistake after I had already posted it. HDPE will still work in a pinch but not as well obviously, this is to just catch spall and hold it together which it will do just fine.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well, then you've got the problem of melting your bottles without cooking them. I used to work in the plastics industry and we gave up on them in our process, cost more in scrappage than we were saving and since that was then contaminated it fricked the whole recycle loop.
        Cleaned bottle tops on the other hand, turns out you can just shred them directly into a hopper with no further processing. Good stuff.
        I would give it a miss myself.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >chicken wire mesh
        i think this is a good idea

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I hate the "recce" fad so much it's unreal

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    magnets

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ceramic and UHMWPE.
    And then perhaps in the future soft gel-like materials similar to D30 that harden on impact, they are just not durable enough to stop bullets yet.
    Although Silicone carbide coupled with Aramid or Dyneema are already pretty damn fascinating in what they can accomplish relative to their weight.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This guy wears armor.
      thermoplastic is the next step in future of ballistic armor inserts.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Composites

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how thick do you have to get kevlar for it to stop a 556 or 308?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The best armor is to not be there.
    Clone technology makes it so that you can just send disposable clone wherever you need to visit instead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the best armor is to never show up to a fight

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Just take a helmet anyway because you never know when fight shows up to you

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What do you need armor for. Are you a criminal?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Diamond plaques, the only problem is that 50 grams of diamonds weigh like half a kilo or something

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >50 grams of diamonds weigh like half a kilo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >50 grams of diamonds weigh like half a kilo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick I'm old

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ceramic balls

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Neat, is that just regular epoxy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based and LIBApilled, but don't use balls use cylinders instead

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        These would be oriented so their long axis is perpendicular to incoming fire, right?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          yes. the idea being that the sum of the pellets makes up a composite strike face and each pellet is mostly unaffected by adjacent hits making for extreme multi-hit ability, one of monolithic ceramics' shortcomings. the gaps are also compensated for, as they're too small for bullets to pass through without being shattered and destabilized by even a glancing hit on the ceramic and are caught by the backer, typically polyethylene or an aramid of some kind

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >each pellet is mostly unaffected by adjacent hits making for extreme multi-hit ability, one of monolithic ceramics' shortcomings.
            Modern ceramic has adequate multi hit capability. I don't understand why people are so concerned about a plate surviving 7 .308 AP rounds or whatever. If your plate ate that much I'm guessing your arms, legs, torso and head got shredded. for what plates cost you just buy a new one after you get shot.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              where were going, we won't need SAPI plates

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        These would be oriented so their long axis is perpendicular to incoming fire, right?

        yes. the idea being that the sum of the pellets makes up a composite strike face and each pellet is mostly unaffected by adjacent hits making for extreme multi-hit ability, one of monolithic ceramics' shortcomings. the gaps are also compensated for, as they're too small for bullets to pass through without being shattered and destabilized by even a glancing hit on the ceramic and are caught by the backer, typically polyethylene or an aramid of some kind

        Yeah

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Do they make hexagonal ones? I could see that helping with any gap issues between cylinders. Of course just choosing a small enough cylinder size to make gaps smaller would help as well.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but the caveat is that they aren't commonly sold as ball mill grinding media like cylinders and satellites. you would need to have them produced for you. Easy if you're a corporation, difficult if you're some dork in a basement

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Alternative is taking the cylinders, finding shorter ones, and stacking them offset from each other in two layers.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              part of the effectiveness of the pellets is that individually they're about as thick as a comparable monolithic plate. start playing with thickness and stacking without compensating elsewhere in the design and you might end up with an unreliable plate. it's feasible with something like

              I was thinking either epoxy or UHMWPE damascus (environmentally friendly and cool) although the latter is a bit more difficult. Additionally the weight isn't really a huge issue, in addition to not being dyel me and my machinist buddy are working on an exoskeleton to mount it on. Really a consistent mold is my biggest problem with these shapes

              where the layers can be as thick as a standard plate but I wouldn't try it until it's proven in a smaller form factor

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is it just as heavy as a normal plate though?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                depends on construction really. theoretically a plate consisting of only ceramic+epoxy/whatever would be lighter than a standard plate but LIBA requires a backer of some sort

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Bigger & smaller diameter cylinders

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Bigger & smaller diameter cylinders

              Or you could just take smaller spheres and lay them offset to block all of the holes in two layers. Cylinders wouldn't work as well that way. Two layers though would make it really quite thick while also shrinking the size of each ceramic ball. That's not great because I remember another anon said a couple months ago when this came up that the ceramic needs to be a certain minimum size to deal with all of the bullet sizes

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think the solution is still spheres but two sizes of spheres.
                >Large diameter spheres of the appropriate size in a hexagonal pattern.
                >Fill front facing gaps with smaller spheres.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Listen I’m high as frick and have access to a composite shop

      What kind of ceramic is that and can it be bought in alibaba

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It'll be carborundum tumbler media, it comes in various shapes for deburring, etc. You can probably get it at Harbour Freight.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Thank God some people other than me are thinking about this. It's literally so easy and cheap its unbelievable. You buy like 100lbs of ceramic media+ epoxy on top of melted milk jugs(uhwmpe) and make enough plate for your whole family and probably your friends.
          [...]
          Literally search ceramic grinding balls/cylinders. It's the exact same material as they use in body armor. You can get alumina, SiC, zirconium, etc. Just make sure you buy the stuff with less fillers for better strike faces.

          High anon again, I’m gonna do it and document it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for your cervix and your hopefully useful future effort post

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based and LIBApilled, but don't use balls use cylinders instead

      Thank God some people other than me are thinking about this. It's literally so easy and cheap its unbelievable. You buy like 100lbs of ceramic media+ epoxy on top of melted milk jugs(uhwmpe) and make enough plate for your whole family and probably your friends.

      Listen I’m high as frick and have access to a composite shop

      What kind of ceramic is that and can it be bought in alibaba

      Literally search ceramic grinding balls/cylinders. It's the exact same material as they use in body armor. You can get alumina, SiC, zirconium, etc. Just make sure you buy the stuff with less fillers for better strike faces.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm thinking cylinders for flat plate and satellites (pic related) for more exotic shapes such as pauldrons, in the warhammer style of course. trouble is getting that fixed into a mold

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the mold is easy but what is the binder? it seems like it may be way heavier than alternatives

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I was thinking either epoxy or UHMWPE damascus (environmentally friendly and cool) although the latter is a bit more difficult. Additionally the weight isn't really a huge issue, in addition to not being dyel me and my machinist buddy are working on an exoskeleton to mount it on. Really a consistent mold is my biggest problem with these shapes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hybrid 3d printing process? A scaffold of uncured but solid epoxy is filled with ceramic pellets of varying shape/size.
          >As the layers are printed, the ceramics are placed in the gaps of the scaffolding.
          >The pellets are printed over with a thin layer of epoxy before the next one is placed. Gaps are filled with more pellets instead of large amounts of epoxy.
          Or maybe a more traditional method?
          >Use uhwpe as a binder agent and heat press ceramic pellets into plate forms?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            we have CNC but not a 3d printer :/

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >melted milk jugs(uhwmpe)
        lol no, they're LDPE, HDPE, or PET. If you want high modulus you're going to have to buy a sheet.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How about if rather than epoxy you sewed them between two pieces of fabric, make two sheets of that then interlock/overlap them? End result would be flexible, lighter and you wouldn't have to worry about the epoxy cracking and leaving gaps. IIIa soft backer and that should stop an awful lot of threats.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Just remember to put a metal plate behind them, no matter what suspension material you use. It quite literally turns into a claymore if the material you use isn't going to hold the balls in place under extreme force.

        It would be better to just use ceramic cylinders with a steel plate backing.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Explosive reactive body armor. Preferably nuclear as to prevent anyone from even firing on your men

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I saw this on TV years ago and then never again
    can you buy dragonscale

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Titanium plates backed by polyethylene, full suit so no frag worries

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >titanium
      too expensive.
      Also no one but chinks have enough of infrastructure.
      t. titanium enjoyer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        no price is too expensive if you're only making it for yourself.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          In that case I kneel, titanium is a material for true chads.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        like the chinks care about their soldiers enough to give them anything but the most basic armor

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Russians also have Titanium armor.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          i thought they got rid of it a long time ago. what they had was kinda sick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >too expensive
        It's not expensive at all, it's just hard to work with. It just depends on the production volume.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >too expensive
      It's not expensive at all, it's just hard to work with. It just depends on the production volume.

      Why titanium? Aren't ceramics harder? That's the important feature of the strike face.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        its a sort of in between of steel and ceramics. You get the multi-hit capacity of steel, plus the weight reduction and similar strength to ceramics. The main issue with titanium is the heath transfer so its susceptible to sheer plugging but thats what the polyethylene backer is for

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          theres a ton of different types of both steel and titanium obviously but when considering the best of both titanium wins out in the case of personal armor (not including costs but dont be poor).

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Once everyone has adopted new cartridges that defeat current and near future armor like the 6.8mm we'll probably see everyone ditch body armor again.
    It's an endless cycle.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Steel and kevlar if you were willing to invest into a passive hydraulic system.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously whatever the Russians got.

    Did you know they have powered exoskeletons, .50 cal rated body armor, and special anti-thermal coating? Any day now they'll start using them in Ukraine and the tides will turn overnight.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Solving of the recruits has beginning

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >RC quadbike

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >muh ukraine
      every thread

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I guess Russia is holding these guys in reserve to protect his monkeness

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Considering we haven't seen anything come out of DARPA for awhile I bet we got some wild shit cooking.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Armor is for atheists and fools. Fight until it is your time to go, and then die in peace because you will have done all that was asked of you.

    Is it a coincidence that while the West has become more atheistic, armor technology has advanced rapidly? No, it is a direct correlation, because they are afraid to fight and afraid to die.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >if I post le cool words on PrepHole people will think I'm badass
      *laughs in heavily armored deus vult*

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >the future
    Dragon Skin

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Extra thick steel plate armour, let’s see those weaklings try to kill me.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Improvements in Polyethylene will continue for the next few decades, it is still very very far from reaching its maximum theoretical strength, so expect thinner and lighter soft armor, and the same for plate backers and helmets. The outcome of this is you should see level IV plates close to 3.6lbs standalone, and m-80 ball/ m193 ball helmets weighing what gucci IIIa helmets weigh today.

    Ceramics have less exciting prospects for the future, but there should be a steady decline in the price delta between shitty alumina and good silicon carbide and boron carbide.
    Boron carbide should see its formula perfected over the next decade, taking away its weakness to tungsten carbide, allowing for lighter weight plates that can handle advanced threats. My thought is something like a 4.5lb standalone that stops Swiss P.
    Titanium diboride might see improvements to its production, bringing down cost enugh that it can be mixed in with either silicon or boron carbide in significant fractions, allowing for ultra strong plates. Combined with future backers, you could see 6lb standalone .50bmg AP plates. Absolutely not cheap, but probable.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      UHMWPE composites reinforced with fibers is the future. Currently big companies have proprietary research additives they use to optimize the interfacial adhesion of fibers with the polymer to make it mechanically stronger. Some of these additives have insane effects on increasing mechanical and thermal stability and you'll probably see upgrades to armor rolling out in a few years once similar shit hits commercial producers.
      t. did research on UHMWPE for a big company

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Thinner
      Anon we're not even to level IV with poly plates and they're the thickest plates.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In case you missed it, II and IIIa polyethylene are much thinner than kevlar for the same protection level. Advances in polyethylene are allowing thinner and lighter level IIIs and IVs as well.
        That there is no level IV poly plate isnt a coincidence, as a material it cant handle steel core so by default it cant reasonably be made a level IV on its own.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >In case you missed it, II and IIIa polyethylene are much thinner than kevlar for the same protection level.
          Yeah but the comparison between hard and soft plate mechanics is so different it's practically apples and oranges.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You need just to wait a while and you will know

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ive read they are working on armor based on carbon, nanotubes or some shit, anyone know about that?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's been kinda going the way graphene is going.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There will be no "body armor" because flesh and blood humans will be in armored bunkers miles from the front directing robots and drones.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why don't militaries issue arm and leg protection made out of level 3 UHWPE? should only weigh a few pounds and would protect from a majority of shrapnel aswell as I believe chinesium and stalinium standard issue rounds, no? Especially SWAT and shit like that where they only have to run 100 metres on their mission anyways and are very likely to come up against civilian grade rifles

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Weight and volume adds up fast and pe can't stop steel core rounds

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the thing is 99% of all threats a swat officer would face are gonna be lead fmj, which UHWPE should be capable of stopping. He's not gonna feel the extra 5 pounds either when all he's gonna do is raid a single home after getting there by van.

        And even then an UHWMPE level 3 plate should be able to stop commonly issued AP rounds for 5.56/russian equivalent/shrapnel yes? Seems well worth the tradeoff to me atleast, and im surprised there is no offerings for such things at this moment even if only for niche uses.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Militaries
      They're so far over weight limits veterans are lucky not to have serious joint problems for life. Every single pound just makes this worse.
      >SWAT, troops with a tiny range, etc
      Yeah it might be a good idea for them but the military changes equipment at a glacial pace.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metal ceramic composites. Europeans already created a material said to be uncuttable because the ceramics destroy any blade that tries.
    I bet if you layered ceramics and metal foam you'd get something that could survive .50 cals. Temporarily anyway.

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