>be belgian
>tired of wasting time on social media
>tired of concrete everywhere, all the time
>there's one region left that isnt completely spoiled by industry/habitation
>decide to go solo camping, hoping to find some connection with nature and learn some bushcraft
>buy tent, food, and other stuff because i want to be prepared
>finally do it, set up my tent in the middle of nature after hours of looking for a good spot
>within an hour two foresters show up, fining me for 125 euro and threatening to give another fine for "walking off track"
Frick this country 🙂
welcome to western europe
>2020 COVID newbie gets fined for wanting to play "cottage-core bushcrafter" moron
you deserve it, the outdoors is for outdoorsmen. Stay in your citydiot containment zone please.
ok
>germany
Why would I drive 6 hours to get fined if I can drive 3 hours for that?
in what belgian province did you go TELL ME gayggggggggggggg
Namur, mongool
Namured, it's luxembourg province that you should have gone to gaygit
>you deserve it, the outdoors is for outdoorsmen. Stay in your citydiot containment zone please.
... said the man who sucked the most wieners. nature is beautiful and the very idea of gatekeeping it is fricking stupid, especially since we as humans have belonged out there in the woods since the beginning of time.
Are you poor or lazy? It’s only about 6 hours from Brussels to Nuremberg. Are you telling me there’s no place to hike between those two places?
I’m 10 hours from GSMNP and I go twice a year.
>Are you poor or lazy?
anon, it's obviously an inflammatory troll thread. I'm 95% certain OP has never even gone outdoors once in his life.
what does nuremberg have to do with it?
It’s a large city on the far side of Germany. I’m just pointing out that OP is a lazy homosexual because he lives in a city himself and is upset he can’t find a place to camp within walking distance.
dude i planned to do that as well (in belgium)
in which province did you do that exactly? I have a tent n shiet, it really sucks if we can't do that
>camping in europe
Thats your problem.
it's pretty chill in France if you're not moronic
amai zenne
Doesn’t Eupen have some okay wilderness? Anytime I was on the train in Belgium I’d always see people heading there for weekend outings
is it still in effect? insane commie chink-level dystopia
Boomers parking in the open got busted was news because it was so funny and rediculous. It was like 2 years ago though. Most natives know to hide car and fire from the air. It's the equiv of getting caught for a national park fire in no fire season. It does happen but only if you are super moronic. Anyway there's a reason that's the only example ever posted. Most of tasmania is vanish forever country. Much like the mothership.
What does Tasmania have to do with Belgium?
>Camping in Europe
Bahahaha
just go to sweden or norway or something you're like a couple hour flight away
Imagine having to take a plane just to camp in the woods lol
Needs Latvia according to the wiki page this map is probably derived from.
Come to Czech Republic.
>Forests everywhere and their numbers keep growing.
>Noone cares if you camp
>If someone tries to give you fine, just beat them up and run away
Pretty based
Tho i have read you have the most infectious ticks in Europe
Going there in a few weeks, wish me luck
Western Euros are so buck broken it’s not even funny
lol how the frick did they find you?
Belgium is like 5 square miles man.
Security cameras in the trees. They're protecting the illusion of the outdoors but really it's an electric surveillance garden.
>Security cameras in the trees.
so no outdoor sex goes unfilmed?
more like no future forest resistance, it's amazing how much they've gotten away with under the pretense of security
europe is the nannystate that china wishes they could be. OPs car probably sent a message to the authorities from its GPS tracker when he drove into a new taxable zone with available "fines" to dish out
>country has bivakzones
>still goes out searching for the "perfect spot" for "hours"
>the "perfect spot" is right next to a fricking trail with cameras
Fricking rollenspelers
>bivakzones
>glorified campsites
>PrepHole
fricking LARPer
I, too, only camp in the true wilds of Belgium. What knife do you carry, brother? How many magnesium sticks wrapped in paracord do you bring? Aah, yes! Only blankets woven from leaves for me! None of that poser LARP gear those peasants use on their "bivakzones", pfuh! Can't believe any true PrepHoleist would even consider spending a day at one! Peasants!
Seriously tho', that's the most LARP thing anyone could ever say about the limited options this country DOES provide. I'm a wildcamper myself, but hating on the one attempt this country did at giving people a way to enjoy going PrepHoleside is ridiculous
Yeah, don't know how you even spend multiple hours in ANY section of nature over here without bumping into a road or town. Pick a dirt road, find a forest, set up in the middle, and you're good to go
Lol frick bivakzones.
Also stop pretending wild camping in belgium is a viable option.
ive wildcamped a few times in belgium and never had problems. Did you make noise, did you pitch your tent during the day? did you make a fire, left trash outside or did other dumb shit the boswachter doesn't appreciate? Otherwise you should be good
I wildcamp once or twice a month, done so for over 7 years, you're probably just being a nuisance or camping on hunting grounds (or generally being uninformed) if you honestly think it's not viable
Yeah the hunting grounds are often private property owned by rich poofs. A friend of mine has a cabin right at the edge of a nice forest thats used as a hunting ground. they have a private security firm patrolling the place 24/7. It's insane really.
Owned by rich poofs who hunt children in the woods for fun.
For being the centre of Europe, Belgium is terribly corrupt and it's all hidden under overwhelming bureaucracy
In Germany you have to pay money for those spots. 10€ a night. It is absolutely ridiculous. And who hunts in the middle of the night? And who would I be a nuisance to? I’m not building a house there. I literally just want to lay down for a few hours. These laws are absurd.
>10€ is expensive to euros
Haha your economy is fricked then Hans, you're never going to make it.
It doesn’t have anything to do with it being expensive. If it was only 1€ I still wouldn’t want to pay. The forest is gigantic and virtually no one is there. And yet I have to pay money to lay down in a designated spot and close my eyes for like six hours? Unacceptable.
what region? I still have to find an area of forest in this country that is not crossed by pathways/unpaved roads every other kilometer.
I guess if youre hiding like a rat under some rock, while not moving around or making any fire, you can 'wild camp' in this country.
>hiding like a rat under some rock, while not moving around or making any fire
See, this is the kind of self-limiting fearful shit you people keep coming up with to not go camping at all, it's fricking ridiculous. "Oh no, I can't make a fire in summer months? Guess I won't go camping at all! Man, FRICK this country!" get a grip, you fricking LARPer
Seriously how do you get caught wild camping? I've done it loads in the UK (so not like I'm out in the wilderness or anything) and never been seen
You even said you'd spent hours trying to find the right spot
There's your problem - you didn't read up on your laws. Hate on it all you want, but as you experienced, the long arm of the law always wins.
Check the laws for your country, and see what you can do within them. Sleeping at manned campsites is still sleeping in a tent. Think of it as practice for future trips to countries where you have more freedom.
At least you're not an Amerilard who either has to buy tickets to walk on public land, or risk getting shot (legally) by some armed farmer for trespassing.
lol
one tried pulling that shit on me in kasprowy wierch, poland (i'm canadian)
shoved that gay into the base of a conifer behind a boulder & ran back to the gondola. never heard anything again.
The forest niggs here in belgium are armed im not gonna attack them
Serves you right, flamin de merde
I just learned that wild camping is illegal in Germany as well. Now I feel extremely disheartened. I already spent a solid 300€ on gear (bivy, sleeping mat, multitool etc.) and I intend to spend another 200 for additional stuff (poncho, water filter, headlamp etc.). But now I don’t know if I’ll even get to use it. I honestly never expected that something as simple as sleeping on the forest floor could be forbidden. The problem is also that the only forests near me appear to be „especially protected“ so any kind of camping is illegal even if I only sleep in a bivy and leave no trace. This sucks.
Junge, mach einfach.
Make your dreams come true!
think of it like hide and seek and go camping anyway but hone up on your camo and SEER skills
Reminder that wild camping laws only apply if you get caught (like a moron), and most places won't even enforce them anyway
reminder if you say "I REFUGEE FROM AFRICA I NO SPEAK GERMAN" you automatically get 500 euros and the police have to drive you wherever you want to go and buy you pizza and let you have a turn with their daughter or wife, whichever is closest geographically upon your request.
idk why mainland countries are like this, but i literally never have had this problem in england nor has anyone i know.
I don't understand how these countries have "foresters" that seemingly search for people walking off the path (?) or do u just camp in really obvious places
Yes, there are foresters randomly walking around. They usually also have a dog with them. When I go for a run in the forest I sometimes meet the guy while he is doing his rounds. The thing is that I run quite early in the day, between 6am and 7am. I always meet him close to the town so he’s likely at the end of his round by the time I’m there. This means that the forester has been walking around in the woods since at least 5am. The dog of course helps with sniffing out people or animals.
>fined for camping
not my problem, camp illegally or just move to germany
It’s also illegal in Germany. Though I think the fines are lower than in Belgium.
it's nicer in germany and lot harder to find but they fine you more, that's correct
in belgium it's more tolarated but can't hide if you try to camp "illegally"
personally I prefer camping in winter, in full snow camo or white cover (white thin camo that you put over real proper green/tan camo) and with some weapons depending on where you are
slings are illegal in germany, high power bows are not
you can get smoothbore shotgun license in belgium with some "connections"
literal forest jannies, wonder if they do it for free
if you camp in bad weather nobody is going to be out looking for you the lazy officers will be in their vehicles or back at base watching tv
Weren't white people supposed to be able to self govern ?
i'm also belgian and was planning on doing this :/
frick i hate this country. i wanna be in nature not next to 50 dutchmen on a cuck camping
Come to France anon. Flixbus and Blablabus are cheap.
What a stupid idea to live in Belgium in the first place.
>thread full of LARPers who only go outside in their fantasy
>claim it's impossible, which is already enough of a deterrent to not go outside at all
So where did you all go on this extended weekend?
Went for 3 days in the Hohe Mark region, some lovely pine forests and creeks, brought my hammock and new underquilt to try that one out! Good shit
You get fined 500 euros here in the Netherlands. Frick this country
Are there any worse countries than the Netherlands for PrepHole?
>flat as a pancake
>densely populated
>barely any forests
>get fined €500 if you sleep outside
you don't need forests to wild camp but yeah the Netherlands and Flanders are pretty fricking bad for PrepHole related activities
Hello (fellow Nederlander?), here are two ideas:
>get a night fishing license and camp somewhere overnight, just have a rod out and claim you nodded off. it's a bit of a wildcard because you're technically not allowed to sleep
>get one of those pilgrim's cards (Santiago de Compostella) and if you're caught sleeping somewhere claim you're just passing through and will be gone come morning
Both options rely on the goodwill of whoever decides to fine you (or not) but there's not much else left in the Netherlands since they abolished "paalkamperen".
And as you well know Dutch camp grounds attract fricking garbage subhumans and aren't 'nature'.
Lying loser.
I had a great time camping in the Ardene and they have plenty of nature there.
there are foresters patrolling everywhere. You just got lucky or hid under a rock 24/7
just pack up your tent again when you are done sleeping, moron. They cant fine you for being in the forest
Don't you dare insult the country that made the FN FAL
come to america. europe is a lost cause
Man, western europe is a shitshow lol
possibly worst PrepHole region in the world?
the nature is nice but all restricted. What kind of world is this where you are fined for sleeping outside like your ancestors. Madness
laughs in Balkan
you are a few hours awy from the Alps, the Ardennes, Jura, Vosges, and in France bivouac (setting up for the night as leaving next morning, as opposed to campin where you set up for several days in one spot) is legal everywhere.
also get yourself a camo tarp, you can set it up lower to the ground than a tent, and it's invisible in the woods unless you're right next to it.
when you get to a spot, just sit down but don't start setting up, keep everything in your bag, if nature oficer comes along, you're just having a break while walking, wait til last light to set up, and take everything down as soon as you wake up
I've been hiking all over Europe, never got any trouble, even camped hiding in city parks when I needed to catch a plane the next day.