FRICK Smith and Wesson

They could have done the right thing and chamber this in .327 magnum. But they didn't.
Buy Ruger.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    chamber pressures and alloy frame

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can shoot 357 out of scandium . This was a lazy Smith and Kekson attempt at taking $ from boomers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Scandium
        That's the key word there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just make it out of STEEL, GOD!
      >but it would be 1.793 oz heavier
      Look if that really makes THAT big of a difference, it's time for you to put down the cheeto bag and nintendo controller and hit the GYM fatty!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the weight matters when you carry in a pocket

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          iwb is always the correct choice.
          Alternatively you can install a proper holster in your pocket.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unless you're wearing some giant-ass khakis with big vertical side openings, you're never gonna draw that pistol in time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do all the no-guns think pistol draw speed is such a crucial factor.
            It's not Ringo v Holliday.
            It's you v astronaut in training, and if your sit-aware is spot-on you'll win regardless of conceal option (except MAYBE ankle).

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How many DGUs you watched on the interwebs bro? Shit happens fast.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many DGUs you watched on the interwebs bro? Shit happens fast.

                NTA but both of those vids illustrate even more how important situational awareness is

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why didn't the guy with the gun shoot the first criminals buddy also? He was an obvious willing participant.

                If the shooter had a 357 he could of got a 2 for 1

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did he have a gun? Was he an imminent deadly threat?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/sghi8xB.png

      They could have done the right thing and chamber this in .327 magnum. But they didn't.
      Buy Ruger.

      It's because 327 federal magnum is still under trademark, and they'd have to pay federal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >LCR

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        upper frame of the LCR 327 is stainless steel

        https://ruger.com/products/lcr/specSheets/5452.html

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy Ruger
    No. This gun is great and I love mine. Seethe more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based
      Have you shot a 38 airweight to compare recoil?

      I had to check and I was partially incorrect. Looks like the J frame uses an alloy. I can't find information on what kind of alloy but I have to assume it's some sort of aluminum base which would probably start cracking or shatter from .327 fed mag pressure.

      It is aluminum of a better alloy than the old j frames. I usually only shoot wadcutters through my Airweight Chief's special because they're easier on it while also being more accurate and terminally effective than any other standard pressure 38 load out of a snub. 38 caliber will have 31% more bolt thrust at the same pressure as 32 caliber so the frame would theoretically be able to handle at least 26k psi if it can handle the 20k of 38spl+p. Cylinder wall thickness will also have an effect; s&ws are significantly stronger with an odd number of chambers. The 44 Magnum l frames have a significantly higher factor of safety in the cylinder compared to the larger n frame 44s because of the stop notch.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >significantly higher margin of safety
        The Model 69 has a thickness of .052" at the stop notch. The N frame 44s are just .040" at the notches.
        It's considerable, but not substantial. On the other hand it's embarassing that S&W are using 100+year old designs that are clearly deficient in several ways.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Have you shot a 38 airweight to compare recoil?
        Yeah, .32 H&R is more pleasant.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To add a bit more to what

        >Have you shot a 38 airweight to compare recoil?
        Yeah, .32 H&R is more pleasant.

        said, the combination of the 32 cartridge with the VZ “High Horn” grips they are only putting on those Ultimate Carry guns is fricking magical. I’ve never shot a centerfire snub nose that was so controllable. I swapped those grips onto my 642-1 and while they did help a lot, they still weren’t as nice as shooting the 632 UC.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy Ruger.
    *Taurus

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Taurus
      When the optic has better better resale value than the gun.

      >ruger
      safety warning engravings
      >smith
      hillary hole
      >taurus
      lol, lmao even

      So are there any actually good budget revolver manufacturers?

      >hillary hole

      S&W makes a few revolvers without the hillary hole

      I love the fact that hillary's hole makes people sperg. Without that, S&W revolvers would be even harder to get and cost more.
      Please keep mad about it.
      I love you all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Literally defending israelite business practices

        The troony commies never left

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Let the seethe flow thru you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Good thing the high prices on my meh gun with average trigger and average build quality and average action strength aren't higher because you plebs don't buy them!!

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ruger
    safety warning engravings
    >smith
    hillary hole
    >taurus
    lol, lmao even

    So are there any actually good budget revolver manufacturers?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S&W makes a few revolvers without the hillary hole

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which ones?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally the one in op's post, for starters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ruger.
      Stop being autistic over engraved text.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ruger's legal requirement to engrave safety warnings on their guns is a humiliating reminder of their submission to the gungrabbers. I refuse to own a gun that has a legally mandated safety warning.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So you refuse to buy any gun?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are many firearms for sale that don't have "read manual" or "fires without magazine" or other safety warnings permanently etched into the gun.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Name 5

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ruger's legal requirement to engrave safety warnings on their guns is a humiliating reminder of their submission to the gungrabbers.
          Ruger did it to not be liable when some dumb ass shoots their leg.

          https://i.imgur.com/zFdZnyO.jpeg

          revolver fans on /k/ literally cant do anything but get emotional over dumb shit.

          >Chinesium dot
          >skaters tape
          >killary hole
          Yup, we're peak reddit now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Taurus is unironically good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i think smith and wesson pays people to shill their products online at great disproportion to other brands because their primary demographic is actual baby boomers trying to grasp at the things they couldn't afford in their youth. they just released a brand new .32 h&r revolver for over seven hundred clams and it's still only a 6 shot. in an obscure, dead caliber that costs over a dollar a round. they've cultivated an extremely toxic brand and demographic and you can tell because people will attack you for pointing that out as absolutely moronic.

        as for revolvers, i don't think taurus has anybody shilling their stuff at all. they're definitely third, fourth place in a race with plenty of competitors and is definitely not leading. but they're like half the price of a ruger and do the same thing. every time i see people dogging on taurus online i just think of a rock island or a charter arms revolver and realize that each smith and wesson they sell probably has $100 of the budgeted towards desperately slinging shit specifically at taurus because they're the only tangible threat to their business

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          S&W should be worried. Taurus is clearly on the way up. They are putting out good product at great prices and they are doing interesting things. Taurus is leaning hard into the revolver market right now.

          https://www.taurususa.com/executive-grade/taurus-692-executive-grade

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Taurus REVOLVERS.
        REVOLVERS.
        Taurus REVOLVERS ONLY.

        Please do not buy Taurus semi-autos except possibly that 22LR one which is not bad or dangerous.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no the pt-22 sucks ass because of the firing pin but i think it would be fine in 25 since its not rimfire. i kind of want one in 25. im probably gonna trade my 22 for a 25 if i can convince someone to do the trade

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The PT-22 sucks ass, but that noguns Black was referring to the TX22. Taurus makes several excellent semi-auto handguns and has for some time, most notably the PT-111 G2/G2C/G3C line following the original (trash) Millennium series.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      colt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        First I didn't care about the QR code
        But you Black folk gaslight me into hating it
        Now I can't stand it on new revolvers , and refuse to buy the new snake guns for it.
        I wonder if it was SW/ruger psyops

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, there are none.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >buy hole filler kit
      Wow solved the non-existent issue that is the hillary hole.
      >t. 460 owner with 500+ full power loads fired and no lock malfunctions

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All you gotta do is inspect it before hand. Smiths are easily the best on the market even with some of the lemons that are out there

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          people talk about smiths like they're premium items and then follow it up with a list of conditional requirements like they're shopping for a bmw e86. if you have to test specific features beyond basic functionality then you are talking about a dogshit brand. there's nothing wrong with collecting dogshit brands, but you are fooling nobody

          there's rock island and charter arms, if you want cheap dogshit revolvers. taurus seems to have the least amount of bullshit involved and their shit apparently has better quality control than smith and wesson in some circumstances so i'm pretty sure that most of the beef with them is a meme at this point

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most of the beef with them is

            Institutional memory. Taurus really was a hot mess for a long time. the new mgmt team has really unfricked shit but it's gonna take time for their rep to sort itself out. I'd say they're about 75% of the way there. Oldgayd who are also brandgays will never get over their idea that Taurus has been and always will be total garbage.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People have been saying this for 30 years.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's actually true this time and we've got 5+ years of evidence of it at this point.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My brother I am not buying a Brazilian revolver

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's fine, you use it as a toy anyway.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ruger

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        READ OWNER'S MANUAL BEFORE USE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Charter Arms is American Taurus but good.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    327 is gay and nonexistent. 32 magnum is excellent for a J frame

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      .327 smacks about as hard as .357 with way less recoil.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        .327 absolutely does not hit as hard as .357, that's absurd. If the recoil was an issue, 38SPL exists. The only real reason 327 exists is to get one(1!) extra round in the same size cylinder which is goofy af.

        327 isn't bad, but it's justifications for existence are so laughably thin is absurd to think it was ever going to be anything but a meme. That said, 32 Mag is also equally silly for similar reasons.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but .32 Magnum is much more pleasant to shoot out of an airweight compared to .38 Special; it's not even close

          You can stick with .38 if you want, but I'd rather have a .32 for less recoil and faster follow-up shots

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            .32 magnum meaning .32 H&R? yes.
            .327 magnum kicks harder than .38. It's not a gentle cartridge out of a small gun, you're going to start to get tinglies and numb spots on your hand after the second box or so of full power loads.

            >327 magnum
            Would be cool if the ammo was obtainable and inexpensive. Inb4 reloading cope, reloading 38 special and 357 magnum is still much cheaper.

            once you have the cases it's slightly cheaper than .357 due to less powder being used. Projectile selection is much more limited and the jacketed ones are roughly the same price as .357. If you're doing light plinking loads they're be slightly cheaper again, bulk lead bullets are usually a penny cheaper for the .32 than for the equivalent .357 product.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >.327 magnum kicks harder than .38. It's not a gentle cartridge out of a small gun, you're going to start to get tinglies and numb spots on your hand after the second box or so of full power loads.
              Hasn't been the case with me; I can handle .327 hot loads out of my snubnose Taurus 327 and not feel any pain or discomfort at all

              To me, that's pretty significant, considering I recently owned a S&W 586 that gave me discomfort when shooting .357, and even a bit of pain with hot loads

              Now, would I carry .327? No, as I said, .32 Mag/H&R is very pleasant to shoot and that's what I prefer to carry; but I at least feel comfortable shooting .327 if that's what was available

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your tolerance for recoil is evidently quite low if an L frame and nu-357 gives you fits.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Controlling recoil is like any other physical activity. You start with whatever genetics blessed you with and then you add reps to develop to whatever potential you have. Some noob with noodle muscles is not going to have the same experience as some gay who's been putting in work for decades.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think he mistakes his flinching from the blast for recoil.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's impossible to diagnose anything like that over the internet. Noobs don't usually know enough to describe things properly. You gotta watch them shoot and combine what they're saying with what you're seeing to get the real story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s really more about practice, not flinching, and understanding that the gun is gonna move and you should let it….

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >understanding that the gun is gonna move and you should let it….

                This is a slow fire target method of recoil management. Shooting for speed(ie combat) means actual control of the weapon for faster follow up shots.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Apparently; the only .357 revolver I've shot that gave me no issues was a Taurus 608, which is a chunk of a gun and has a ported barrel

                >I recently owned a S&W 586 that gave me discomfort when shooting .357, and even a bit of pain with hot loads

                My 686 PC shoots 357 with the same felt recoil as my 43x. Maybe try a different grip?

                I'm currently looking for a 44 and will most likely go with a 629 if I find one I like. I've heard that the 69 (which is a L-frame just like my 686) doesn't handle the recoil of 44 the same as the larger N-framed 29/629. As in it is a lot of difference.

                The 586 I had was a new "Classic" model, and the only grip I could get to fit was an old pair of Pachmayr Presentations, which didn't help

                Pachmayr Grippers wouldn't fit because the screw was blocked by the trigger mainspring, and my Trausch grips wouldn't fit either because the inside of the grip frame was cut differently, so a tightly fit Square Butt grip wouldn't fit

                A regular Round Butt 686 would probably have provided better grip options, but the 586 Classic was what I had because I got a good deal on it when I got it. And I'm not wasting time and money buying another .357 Magnum revolver just to try again

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and the only grip I could get to fit was an old pair of Pachmayr Presentations, which didn't help
                Interesting. I have found through my own testing that the Presentation grips do a better job at mitigating recoil in my Model 13 than my trausch grip or the stock wood target grips. How big are your hands? Also, post a pic of the 586 with trausch grips on, I want to see how much it looks like a Manurhin. If you can't actually fit them on, just lay them on top of the grip frame.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can't take any pictures since I already got rid of the 586; also, I have medium-sized hands

                This picture can serve to illustrate though. The 586 Classic is a square butt, but it has those half-circle cuts on the inside of the frame like the round butt in this picture

                The Trausch grips I have are specifically cut for the old style of square butt like in this picture; hence why the 586 Classic's "modern" square butt wouldn't fit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post a picture of the new "cut" because what you're saying makes no fricking sense to me. i was unaware the "halfmoon cut" was any different on new frames. You never see grip sites specifying the difference like you do with Colt D frames.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, I managed to hunt down a video of someone changing the grips on a 586 Classic and cropped it just for you

                NOW do you see what I mean when I say the 586 Classic's square butt is cut differently on the inside of the frame compared to the original square butt? Compare this screenshot to what's shown

                https://i.imgur.com/MI4FdjN.jpeg

                Can't take any pictures since I already got rid of the 586; also, I have medium-sized hands

                This picture can serve to illustrate though. The 586 Classic is a square butt, but it has those half-circle cuts on the inside of the frame like the round butt in this picture

                The Trausch grips I have are specifically cut for the old style of square butt like in this picture; hence why the 586 Classic's "modern" square butt wouldn't fit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah. see when you say "half moon cut" My ind goes to the "half moon cut" at the top of the grip that has been a feature of the S&W frame forever. Now I see they added another cut to the backstrap. Anyone know why? Seems like it wouldn't effect using older grips but if new grips are cut to fit that they wouldn't work in old guns.

                Seems moronic as frick. Oh right...it's S&W...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and here's the inside of one of the panels of a Trausch grip, which you'll notice is molded in the shape of the original square butt, and as I confirmed myself will NOT fit the 586 Classic's "new" square butt

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What part doesn't fit? That half moon cut out of the backstrap wouldn't preclude that grip from working. Like I said I'm confused by how you're describing this because if you go to a big grip manufacturer site they say frick all about "these grips only fit models made in XXX years."

                https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/smith-and-wesson/k-square

                Compare to the Colt D-frame page:
                https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/colt/d-frame/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unfortunately, since I already got rid of the 586 Classic I had, there's not much I can do to illustrate what I'm trying to say

                I took one of my Model 10s and took off the grips (both my Model 10s are wearing the same Trausch grips)

                The most I can do is show you how tightly fitted the grips are to the square butt frame, and how the changing the design of the back strap blocked it from fitting the Classic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What I'm trying to get out of you is what dimension is changed between old and new grips and why no grip manufacturers have any disclaimers on their pages for different grips from different eras. Can you understand what the distinctions I am looking for are?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're high. K,L and X frames are the same and the dimensions have never changed. You could put a set of half moon grips from an 1899 hand ejector on a NIB .500 X-frame.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Unfortunately, since I already got rid of the 586 Classic I had, there's not much I can do to illustrate what I'm trying to say

                A clear cut sign of a person making something up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The more I look at that cut out it doesn't even look like it's for a S&W...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm guessing the difference in our experience is that I wear large gloves. The presentation grip is bigger and probably fits my hand better than yours, and the Trausch grip probably fits your hand better than mine. Interesting to know those half moon cuts can cause issues with certain grips.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whoops, my image didn't attach.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Interesting to know those half moon cuts can cause issues with certain grips.

                I'm still waiting for clarification of this as it makes no sense with the information I currently have.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I recently owned a S&W 586 that gave me discomfort when shooting .357, and even a bit of pain with hot loads

                My 686 PC shoots 357 with the same felt recoil as my 43x. Maybe try a different grip?

                I'm currently looking for a 44 and will most likely go with a 629 if I find one I like. I've heard that the 69 (which is a L-frame just like my 686) doesn't handle the recoil of 44 the same as the larger N-framed 29/629. As in it is a lot of difference.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a difference of only 6 ounces and the 69's cylinder is actually stronger due to stop notch-chamber depth if you can believe it.
                Recoil of a proper 44 Magnum is similar to 357 snubs, not a bunch of fun to shoot all day. Most factory ammo is not that warm and I've loaded it to touch mid-454 ballistics before(not in a Smith).
                A model 69 is on the acquire list some day.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Recoil of a proper 44 Magnum is similar to 357 snubs, not a bunch of fun to shoot all day.

                That's why I'm figuring on a 6" in 44. The 5" 686 PC 357 I have shoots amazingly easy and going thru a box of shells is not a chore.
                A friends 4" Anaconda in 44 has a shit load of recoil. Mind you now I only put 12 rounds thru it since he rarely shoots it, and on that day he didn't even shoot it himself, but I can see why people buy them to collect them, not to shoot them. The aesthetics are amazing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The anaconda at 4" is probably as heavy or heavier than a 6" 629.
                It's Redhawk sized with a slightly thinner, but longer cylinder.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The 629 is longer (obviously). They both are ~ the same width and height, but the 629 weighs 4+ ounces more.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the taurus 327 isn't so bad, it weighs like twice what an lcr does, I also had a 327 lcr and that one is a palm smacker

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >17 oz vs 22 oz
                ok never mind twice, but it is heavier

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The absolute state of the revolver community in 2024

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not really.
          Only a no-guns would spout such an idiotic response.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      327 is more common than 32 HR mag, and 32 HR mag is absolute fricking trash.
      And irrelevant, since you can fire 32 HR from a 327 gun

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The .327 federal mag has 45,000 PSI. .32 H&R mag is 21,000 and .38 special is 17,000. There's simply no chance the aluminum J frames could withstand the pressure made by the .327 federal mag.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I had to check and I was partially incorrect. Looks like the J frame uses an alloy. I can't find information on what kind of alloy but I have to assume it's some sort of aluminum base which would probably start cracking or shatter from .327 fed mag pressure.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The hole really isn't that bad. You can get it covered pretty well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Of all the reasons I'd hesitate to buy a particular S&W revolver I otherwise wanted, the lock would not deter me.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the lock would not deter me.

        You probably weren't alive when shit went down with S&W, the clintons and the locks and shit. Watching a US icon get cucked by brits to the clintons to its' financial ruin and sale to goddamn lock gays was a trip I'm here to tell you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This
          I've had that shitty fricking pandering lock turn itself on after shots more times than I can remember.
          Fricking garbage bullshit. Just like this dimwit fricktards opinion and basic b***h attempt at a valid argument

          To ALL you no-guns homosexuals b***hing about S&W, just remember that the worlds best, most awarded, and most successful revolver shooter of all time SWITCHED to S&W a bunch of year ago when he really wanted to become even better.
          KYS homosexualS:

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          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So out of all the 100's of 1000's of people who've shot a S&W revolver with a hillary hole we finally found the one person who had an issue with it.

            WOW! What are the chances?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What are the chances?

              Somewhere between Slim and None. And Slim left town.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im not defending the feature but if you're gonna throw an extra safety onto a gun that people generally dont feel like its necessary to placate legal concerns then at least make it completely seamless and easy to ignore

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There were no legal concerns. It was a preemptive cucking.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    revolver fans on /k/ literally cant do anything but get emotional over dumb shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice goon tape gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's probably really helpful for that mooth ass wood fricking gripped 357. Likely howies, which is fine and you don't know what that is which is not fine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you buy a revolver that comes with runner grips, replace them with wood, then put meme tape over the wood?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        smooth wood didnt give him the grip he wanted, as for why he swapped it the original ergos could have been worse to him or he just didnt like it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's a shit piece but yeah, revolvergays here are almost nothing but contrarians with feminine mindsets that are constantly flying into histrionics. i've convinced myself it's just a result of the zoomers latching onto revolvers and bringing their generational mindrot along, since years ago the revolver crowd here was among the most chill and knowledgeable

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just backlash to being raised under the soulless corporate tactitard era of min/maxing black plastic. Reject modernity. Return to monke.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fitzanon i've got ten wheels and all of two autos so you're trying to convert the clergy here, but the whole schtick is tired and predictable at this point. all the revolver talk here now is just hyperbole, wailing and fad-chasing that's completely mirroring the most tacticool auto community. it is what it is, and it's not any one person's fault, but it's a shitshow now. sorry.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >fad-chasing
            What the 5 guys trying to make .32s a thing? Blade Runner grips? Relax nerd, time is wheel(gun).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              chickenbutt

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PrepHole as a whole has basically gone down the shitter, no community was spared getting redditified and infested by normies since the 2016 mass migrations from outside.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah i get that but it hurts particularly to see the revolver community take such a visible nosedive to the point i feel like i'm trying to engage with literal teenagers or just dumbasses and every attempt at nuance or in-depth discussion goes into the void. can't even talk about optimizing a fricking blackhawk without it devolving into shitflinging anymore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol have you ever worked with a zoomer? If you think shit is fricked now wait until those poor dumb bastards who were masked 8hrs a day for 2 years in pre-school and kindergarten grow up. You're gonna see some shit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >wait until those poor dumb bastards who were masked 8hrs a day for 2 years in pre-school and kindergarten grow up.

              the worst thats gonna happen is we have an entire generation of people who have a mask fetish

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stupendously wrong, cumbrain.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mask fetish will be the downfall of society
                Unironically what is wrong with you people? This thread screams unemployed/single

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i mean i iterally said in my initial post that i'd given in to the notion that zoomers were a big reason behind revolver discussion going to shit so yeah i have a good idea

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the more likely reason is anti-meta contrarians flocking to revolvers so they can virtue signal how counter-culture they are. paul harrel is also partially to blame.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think the meta is actually changing into something more practical and reality based than it has been in decades. It's like we're reached the end of propaganda about almost everything in modern society and gun shit is included. Nature's immune response lol. I'm glad younggays are getting into revolvers. I don't care what their reasons are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bud I see you always harping this shit and trying to make a simple trend into a societal shift. For a while lever-actions were in vogue but now they're back to where they were a decade ago. Chill out, learn to enjoy wheel guns with some modesty.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Levers are actually still going up in value due to people rediscovering suppressed .38/.44/.45

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are they going up in value because of increased demand or because their production was completely stymied by COVID and has still to recover? Uberti and Rossi levers aren't going for hundreds more than they did because a cultural shift occurred and no one wants ARs for general purpose rifles, it's because production is low and inflation is a b***h, to say nothing of the vast majority of new users seemingly flocking predominantly to .357 offerings because they just want a cool gun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how do you know that? source?

                Cans are easy to get now, people want cool suppressor hosts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how do you know that? source?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it's more that western stuff is making a comeback in general, lots of people got into it though vidya like RDR2 and there's been a resurgence in western movies and TV as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >learn to enjoy wheel guns with some modesty.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Glocks are cheap, so are optics and lights and 9mm. Metagays obsessed with only the cheapest easiest way to put holes on paper are cancer and suck the fun out of discussions.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol have you ever worked with a zoomer? If you think shit is fricked now wait until those poor dumb bastards who were masked 8hrs a day for 2 years in pre-school and kindergarten grow up. You're gonna see some shit.

                if you call them zoomers its very obvious to them that you're trying to do the gen x/kurt kobain thing and trying to attack them in the same way that you attacked their parents isn't going to work. i dont know how ignorant or moronic you have to be to want to posture yourself in the position of the boomer in the gen x/boomer paradigm but i guess it's important to your sense of identity that you throw yourself on those swords

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >attack them

                I'm just nooticing bro. You don't mind me nooticing do you moishe?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shlomo is the one who implanted that "us vs them" mentality in your own people. The prior generations have a duty to raise the younger ones right. However since every generation is increasingly more degenerate...

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a Smith M&P 340 but they are pricey. It’s on my wish list for now.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pressure is th main reason why.
    327 Fed has an operating pressure of 48kpsi.
    The original SP101s in 327 fed actually developed problems, like bulged chambers and captured brass, until Ruger changed the alloy the cylinder was made of.
    No problems now.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >.327 magnum
    Never heard of it, sounds like yet another flavor of the month meme caliber that will go extinct in due time like 300 Legend or 224 Valkyrie. No cares about he debatable slight improvements it offers, people would rather have a common caliber that they don't have to make special orders from online and can just pick up at any box office store or mom and pop gun store.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >300 Legend
      It was made for and is currently used in all states that don't allow you to hunt with bottlenecked cartridges.
      >224 Valkyrie
      It failed because it kept breaking the extractors from the bolt. Lots of hunters tried it out before its issues became apparent.

      You could have mentioned actual rounds that were never commonly available, like 6mm ARC or 5mm Remington rimfire magnum.

      .327 smacks about as hard as .357 with way less recoil.

      >.327 smacks about as hard as .357 with way less recoil.
      The .327 federal magnum hits slightly harder than .38 spl with similar recoil, it does not hit nearly as hard as .357 magnum. Its point was to add an extra round to the cylinder.

      327 is more common than 32 HR mag, and 32 HR mag is absolute fricking trash.
      And irrelevant, since you can fire 32 HR from a 327 gun

      >.327 is more common than .32 H&R mag
      Correct!
      >.32 H&R mag is absolute fricking trash.
      Whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. .32 H&R is a major improvement over .32 ACP which was already outperforming the .380 ACP.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting my first gun, what Rager revolver should I get? Something I can conceal carry in PA

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like most people who shit on smith and Wesson now try too much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, soon the backlash will come, and those that called them bad will be labeled contrarian. And the cycle will begin a new.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most sane non moronic people think they're fine. It's just morons here think anything is shit based on the movement if the sun.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't even get the .32 H&R models, I only ever see them on GunBroker, and they're all being sold by scalpers

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .32s lost. .38s won. Deal with it.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The handful of autists trying to meme back a dead caliber
    Just reload .38 lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The gun industry trying to meme back a dead caliber

      Sad. Many such cases.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everything is a culture war!
    ugh it's all so tiresome
    post guns

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .32 snubs just make more sense, .38 only took over because cops wanted their backups to be the same bullets as their main guns

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >.38 only took over because
      No one understood handgun terminal ballistics and BIGGER NUMBER MORE BOOM ruled the day. It is what it is. I am all in on .38s and have been for decades. I don't have a reason to get into .32s. If I was a brand new total homosexual it might make sense but if I was a brand new total homosexual I'd be doing a bunch of shit that makes no sense anyway so...

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh look. This thread again. Frick all you gays that pretend HR is relevant and SW is beyond any reproach. Stop trying to infect everything with your never ending compulsion to gobble wieners.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >327 magnum
    Would be cool if the ammo was obtainable and inexpensive. Inb4 reloading cope, reloading 38 special and 357 magnum is still much cheaper.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >reloading 38 special and 357 magnum is still much cheaper.

      It would be roughly the same cost for all the components. Well, at least the bullets, powder and primers. I dunno if .32 cases are uber expensive unobtatium shits or something.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Single Seven is on my buy list for this year.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Single Seven
      I call with 8 6's.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why waste time and money on a dead meme caliber one autistic frickwit, you, keeps trying to shill for

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how about you buy a real revovler instead meme ones.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >moon clips
      Still a meme

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm always surprised at how much revolver guys tend to hate moonclips. Lots of people have brought Jerry up in this thread and he exclusively uses moonclips with his wheelguns

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know either. I used to think moon clips were weird until I tried them. As long as you get good clips, they work pretty well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody hates moonclips and of course Jerry uses them in competition because that's their only remaining realistic use case. The other being use in war/duty revolvers but there are no war/duty revolvers any more.

          >reloads are basically non-existent in 99.9099137% of non-leo self defense cases
          >moonclips are for reloading fast
          >moonclips are a potential point of reliability or outright failure issues

          Why would you add a potential point of failure to a gun you will realistically never have to reload under duress? If you want a range toy or a competition gun with moonclips then whatever have fun. You want them on a self defense gun though and I'm gonna think you're a few beers short of a case.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >moonclips were used in war/duty revolvers
            >moonclips are bad for self defense
            ???

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              War=offensive potential=way different use cases than civvie self defense. Same shit for LEOs. The job of someone paid to carry a gun is nto the same as joe frick stick going to the stop and rob for monsters and zyn.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh also the war thing was down to logistics and not any superiority of the humble moonclip.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >moonclips are a potential point of reliability or outright failure issues
            >Why would you add a potential point of failure to a gun you will realistically never have to reload under duress?
            The main beef against moonclips is that they might get bent while carrying it around in your pocket and bind up when you load them. But if you don't need to reload at all in a SD scenario and just keep a moonclip in the cylinder at all times, then it shouldn't even be a problem right?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It has the potential to be a problem. It offers zero advantage. That is all that's require to disqualify it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jerry shoots exclusively on a flat range, where they make sense. The problem with moon clips is that if they get bent even the slightest, you can't use them. They just aren't robust enough for anything more than range shooting.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I should probably start this by saying I like moon clips.
          >I'm always surprised at how much revolver guys tend to hate moonclips.
          You shouldn't be surprised. Firstly, not all revolvers can take moon clips. I've seen revolvers where the gap isn't wide enough for the cylinder to close if you attempt moon clips. Secondly, they can bend which causes the owner to have to throw them in the trash and get new ones. Speed loaders tend to last longer. Thirdly, no partial reloads like a speed strip or with loose rounds. With moon clips and speel loaders you can only do full reloads (my hypothetical/imaginary wheelgun shootout involves the enemy thinking my gun is empty when I have two more rounds), I should try and find half moon clips.
          >Lots of people have brought Jerry up in this thread and he exclusively uses moonclips with his wheelguns
          Thats not true, We've seen footage of him reloading with speed loaders as well as moon clips.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I only hate moon clips if they're required for the gun to function right, like a 9mm revolver. If I'm shooting on public land or anywhere without a convenient table, unloading and reloading moon clips is a pain in the ass and ruins the simplicity of a revolver.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone ever fricked a S&W? Sticking it up your ass doesn't count gays.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I stuck my dick in mine one time and posted the picture here, but mods deleted it, buncha queers.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why? It's a dead meme round.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so what happened if you strip the Hillary hole?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would be very painful.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I ignore it.
      In fact I'm glad S&W fricked up and put it in. It's kept the prices of their revolvers down.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's kept the prices of their revolvers down.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        New Smiths are pretty expensive. My S&W 610 was just over $1000.

        >inb4 why'd ya buy a 10mm revolver
        I like 10mm, and the 610 with a 6.5" barrel is just beautiful. I discovered recently that I love long barrels.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everything is expensive.
          Redhawks are going for 1k now too, but used ones(which I highly recommend) can be found for $6-800.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Everything is expensive.
            https://www.pistolandpawn.com/product/taurus-2627069-627-standard-357-mag-7-round-6.50-stainless-steel-black-ribber-grip

            https://www.pistolandpawn.com/product/taurus-2440041tkr-tracker-model-44-44-rem-mag-5-round-4-blued-black-ribber-grip

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Taurus isn't real.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              /k/ told me to never buy Taurus

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ~95% of /k/ doesn't own firearms.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/1yOtvBX.gif

        >It's kept the prices of their revolvers down.

        New Smiths are pretty expensive. My S&W 610 was just over $1000.

        >inb4 why'd ya buy a 10mm revolver
        I like 10mm, and the 610 with a 6.5" barrel is just beautiful. I discovered recently that I love long barrels.

        https://i.imgur.com/9BHJec7.jpeg

        Everything is expensive.
        Redhawks are going for 1k now too, but used ones(which I highly recommend) can be found for $6-800.

        Pricing is relative AND hard to sometimes explain.
        The 686 PC in 357 is $1200. A Python in 357 is $300 more but the S&W PC will out shoot the Colt every time.
        If hillarys hole is the reason, great.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can out shoot you with a $500 Taurus.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          /k/ told me to never buy Taurus

          /k/ told you never to buy taurus because their two biggest competitors in the market are companies who proudly comitted resources to the 1968 gun control act and the 1994 assault weapons ban specifically in an attempt to ban americans from using affordable imported firearms, and then ban americans from buying any guns made by domestic competitors that could hold more than 10 bullets. whats even fricking crazier is realizing that smith and wesson specifically did that to torpedoed the value and reputation of their semi auto guns and increase the value of their revolvers, and it still hasn't recovered to this day

          what im saying is that ruger and smith and wesson play dirtier than quite possibly any gun company and you really shouldn't be surprised that they charge double what taurus does. quite frankly, i wouldn't be surprised if the taurus was flat out a better quality gun at half the price, that's how little faith i have in smith and wesson and ruger due to their pattern of anti-consumer behavior over the last 40 years. for fricks sake, ruger still sells magazines for the p series and they msrp for $35. that's highway robbery for a 15 round galvanized steel magazine. taurus sells 18 round beretta mags for like $20 and spoilers they're the same dimensions with holes in different spots and they have the decency to at least blue the steel

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rather than assuming it's a big conspiracy, the real reason not to buy a Taurus is shit qc and materials.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              some dude linked a taurus tracker for $425. the $500 extra dollars you're going to spend on a used 6" smith and wesson really isn't even a guarantee that it's going to be a good gun since you're still in the used price range. $900 gun with no warranty versus $400 gun with warranty is a pretty shit deal, no?

              maybe there was a period in the past before they started price gouging (im assuming before 1994 when they campaigned to ban high capacity mags) and the boomers are still posturing as if it was that time period, but that was before i was born. like nobody is even questioning that taurus is an inferior product but you'd have to be an idiot to pay smith and wesson pricing for smith and wesson quality, so i'll stick with taurus

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm willing to debate the merits of revolver design, but you don't appear to be a very serious person.
                You don't want to frick with brazillian warranties.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i wouldn't be surprised if the taurus was flat out a better quality gun at half the price

            Don't be surprised. The design is better on several points. What's gonna be fun is Taurus is signalling they are going all in on revolvers. They are starting to offer higher price/finish/features products. S&W and Ruger should be afraid. No one has anything that can compete with the 856 on price/features. It's not even close. If Taurus would get off their ass and flood the market with cheap .22lr models of their small frame revolvers they could get a whole new young generation hooked on THEIR revolvers. I finished polishing my other Taurus yesterday. Bout to take some pics. I'll post later.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. Fuddlore says that if you shoot somebody with it prosecution will tear you apart for removing a safety feature, but that's never happened ever.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I polished a Taurus today. The frame. I'll do the cylinder tomorrow.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I need to finish mine up. I'm like 80% there, but its just been sitting there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Listen to this while you polish:

        There's this section where he's talking about how loud noises disrupt the mind of the intellectual and he's going off about the sound of whips cracking and I'm thinking "I wonder what he'd think of some Black person stereo shaking shit off his wall?"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think I just hate loud noises because I'm an autist. An autodidact isn't necessarily an intellectual and I don't check those boxes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you're an autist you definitely need to read Schopenhauer. This is a good introductory one with varied topics: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10715

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Schopenhauer
          my homie! I listen to an audio book on Neichze and they briefly touched on Schopenhauer. I don't remember too much other than he was one of the first or few western philosophers who critically examined and adopted eastern philosophies.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine having a lock

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sorta related, look at the fricked up crown on my 686, kek
    I never realized how bad it was until I got some experience working in a machine shop. I thought it looked weird but it always shot fine so I never looked too closely at it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is my taurus model 66 with a crooked front sight post lmao. i guess its not really a surprise that smith is all about looks over function.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I don’t know that I’d buy a new Smith without looking at it in person. I bought this one online for a steal, and thankfully it shoots great. This was at 25 yards. I’ve shown the crown, but there was also a kinked spring in the cylinder that needed fixing and the hammer block would catch on the side plate. It was made in 2013.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also I paid $600 CAD which is about 440 USD

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/8ypytdS.jpeg

            Yeah I don’t know that I’d buy a new Smith without looking at it in person. I bought this one online for a steal, and thankfully it shoots great. This was at 25 yards. I’ve shown the crown, but there was also a kinked spring in the cylinder that needed fixing and the hammer block would catch on the side plate. It was made in 2013.

            that's a much better price than i've seen a smith go for in the states. i think the price of revolvers is really skewed due to collectors keeping the price high. every gun show you will ever go to will have multiple new in box unfired vintage smith and wessons and there's basically no demand for them, so the supply just inflates and inflates as time goes on.

            and of course since gun shops are full of guys trying to hock them off it ends up difffusing to the rest of the gun market where people think that a smith is somehow worth more than its own merits because of the brand name, like its a coach purse or gucci loafers or something. except its not even as expensive as either of those things so as a method of posturing affluence it fricking sucks, buy a korth if you want to do that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Never, ever do paperwork on a revolver you have not personally inspected. I don't care who made it.

          http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I just lucked out. There’s only one gun store where I live, Cabelas. So it’s either Cabelas or you find some guy local and you go to his house and inspect it. That was when you could still buy handguns, which you can’t do anymore

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/

            Nice write-up.
            A really young guy who had a booth at the gun show 2 months ago got pissy with me while I was giving a 586 a good look. He said it was fine if I checked it out, but once I started checking it out he said, "It's used, you know. If you want a new one go to the store".

            I hadn't made the first comment or weird face, PLUS I was actually very interested in it. I simply put it back down, said nothing, and slid over to the next table.

            The old man behind me gave it the same once over and the guy said, "What is with you people today?" I let out a chuckle. The old man tapped me on the shoulder and said, "Someone out to turn him over and see where he get wet!." The chuckle became a literal LOL.

            He wasn't there last month.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              These kids are legit moronic. I went to my LGS to sell a gun and the owner guy wasn't there so one of the little zoomers he employs(presumably because they're cheap) is trying to handle it. He's in the back looking shit up online. He's calling the owner and talking to him. This went on for like 15 minuts. Some other customer comes in and all the employees and this guy and some other dude are all looking at some AR shit while I'm standing there with my thumb up my ass for another 10 minutes. I finally just asked for my gun and he got kind of sheepish and was trying to ask me what I wanted etc. I just told him he was wasting my time and that's more valuable than money and left. I sold it to another shop for exactly what I wanted to get out of it and that shop will surely double their money.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >These kids are legit moronic.

                >http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/

                Nice write-up.
                A really young guy who had a booth at the gun show 2 months ago got pissy with me while I was giving a 586 a good look. He said it was fine if I checked it out, but once I started checking it out he said, "It's used, you know. If you want a new one go to the store".

                I hadn't made the first comment or weird face, PLUS I was actually very interested in it. I simply put it back down, said nothing, and slid over to the next table.

                The old man behind me gave it the same once over and the guy said, "What is with you people today?" I let out a chuckle. The old man tapped me on the shoulder and said, "Someone out to turn him over and see where he get wet!." The chuckle became a literal LOL.

                He wasn't there last month.

                >The old man tapped me on the shoulder and said, "Someone ought to turn him over and see where he get wet!."

                people talk about smiths like they're premium items and then follow it up with a list of conditional requirements like they're shopping for a bmw e86. if you have to test specific features beyond basic functionality then you are talking about a dogshit brand. there's nothing wrong with collecting dogshit brands, but you are fooling nobody

                there's rock island and charter arms, if you want cheap dogshit revolvers. taurus seems to have the least amount of bullshit involved and their shit apparently has better quality control than smith and wesson in some circumstances so i'm pretty sure that most of the beef with them is a meme at this point

                >people talk about smiths like they're premium items and then follow it up with a list of conditional requirements

                dumb ass kids indeed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. The younger the dumber

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what gun store has employees in their early 20s? like i know this is a troll post but i dont think i've ever seen an employee of a gun store that didn't have grey hair

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a troll post. I could name the fricking shop but I won't because the owner is a cool guy he just hires some dumbs. Maybe it's family and he couldn't NOT hire him? I've never been in there before when the owner wasn't there so it was a novel experience.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what gun store has employees in their early 20s?

                Around me?
                Bass Pro
                Academy Sports
                Cabelas
                Sportsman’s Warehouse

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So when you polish your Taurus by hand you will see where some of the cost savings come in. I was gonna do 30mins a section. Started with the Fitz. After you got through the bead blasting you started to see the jacked up polish hiding underneath. I went an hour per section on the Fitz(7hrs total) and never got most of it out. Said frick it and just did the 30mins a section with the 3"(3.5hrs). I also re-worked these old factory grips I had. I thinned them as much as I could, re-profiled them slightly and then refinished them with tung oil.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they dont really do the classic shiny blued finish anymore, but i'd say its a pretty effective cost saving measure. i like the matte finish anyways, looks good when you beat it up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they dont really do the classic shiny blued finish anymore

        They are about to but I still can't get over how fricking dumb it is to take the small frame back to only 5 rounds for this product.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but if they made 6 or 7 standard then they cant just arbitrarily create low and mid ranges out of things that previously were assumed standards. that's going to be the tarnishing of taurus in the next 5-10 years and i hope charter arms can pick up their slack by offering cheap shit in higher capacities

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're a moron.

            Taurus 85 has been on the market for decades. It is a 5 shot. it uses the Taurus small frame. The 856 was released a few years ago. It is a 6 shot. It uses the Taurus small frame. Same.frame. Now they drop this new gun and go BACK to 5 shots? Why? just so they can talk about how it's "like" a j-frame? It's bigger than a J-frame. It is not as good of a pocket gun. Much better as a SIX SHOT belt gun. Taurus did a bunch of dumb shit with that "executive grade" 3" 856 too.

            >take 3" 856
            >remove night sight
            >remove concealable grips
            >replace with frick huge grips
            >do some "action work"

            It's arguably a less suitable gun for CC than it was in stock configuration and it's more expensive. I guess they were going for the S&W moron market.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So chamber one yourself if you think it's really important to waste .357 on a snubbie.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am skeptical of anything Taurus because the B/C gap, headspace, or endshake is always fricking wrong.
    Often times it's all three.
    The triggers/hammers are sloppy and parts are not fit well together beyond function because that's extra work. I have even seen ones in the past where somehow the stop notches and ratchet weren't timed correctly, it didn't lock up correctly and had to go back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many Taurus revolvers made in the last 5 years have you examined? Lots of design changes from the 856 forward.

      >locking detent on crane/frame interface
      >bushing system on cylinder pin
      >super easy disassembly compared to S&W thanks to trigger return spring and bolt spring design

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why don't you take a moment and demonstrate, get out your feeler gauges.
        With the cylinder pressed forward, put the thickest feeler gauge you can between it and the forcing cone. Then press the cylinder back and repeat.
        Take an unfired cartridge and place that in the cylinder, place the thickest gauge you can between the rim and the recoil shield.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol. lmao. Black person, neither of my 856s have ANY appreciable endshake. none. The cylinder does not seem to move forward or backward in the frame. I will concede it may be moving so slightly I can't detect it without guages but at that level of endshake who the frick cares? Now my S&W 442 does have endshake. Also the shitty detent they use in the end of the ejector rod already has slop so the cylinder/crane can flex ever so slightly outwards. Not enough to be dangerous(yet) but sloppy as frick. This will never happen to my 856 due to the detent being a superior design in the frame/crane interface.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not an 856 but the same cylinder/crane assembly design.

            https://yewtu.be/watch?v=I6lQprzO1nw

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So in other words you've never measured it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm doing it right now gimme a minute lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                3" BCG is .007(.008 will not go). I cannot move the cylinder such that the .007 no longer fits.

                2" BCG is .003(.004 will not go). I cannot move the cylinder such that .003 no longer fits.

                Surprised how tight the 2" gun is. Can't let it get too dirty lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                .003" is plenty still for fouling.
                How was the headspace?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How was the headspace?
                mother fricker I just put the gauges up....gimme a min...I don't have go/nogo so I'm gonna have to measure a case and then use feeler gauges with it in the gun.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How was the headspace?
                .60 for the 3"
                .63 for the 2"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I thought those were B/C measures
                Little tight on the headspace, but better to be tighter than too much, results in misfires the other way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think worrying about headspace is a meme. if it's out of spec you're going to have issues that will make you fix it. If it is in spec you won't and min/maxing that kind of shit in a belly gun is beyond autism.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Headspace is just the other end of the equation for fixing cylinder fitting problems.
                If you had excessive headspace, but a too tight cylinder gap you could mill a little off the ratchet to increase B/C gap and reduce headspace. The end shake that process introduces can be fixed with endshake bearings.
                It's more complicated when you would rather have a longer ratchet or too little headspace and too much B/C gap. Then you're faced with the samson option of setting the barrel back one turn, recutting the forcing cone, and rechamfering it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've never had a gun go that far out of spec endshake/headspace wise. I retired my first M38 at around 33K rounds because the firing pin hole was becoming oblong and slop was developing in the hammer and trigger pin holes of the frame. It was technically still good to go but I didn't feel like pushing it. Sold it to a buddy with full disclosure for $50. He wanted something he could leave in a boat without caring about it.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But what about Rossi revolvers though

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Made by Taurus. Same as Heritage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But both of them originally weren’t owned by Taurus

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But now they are.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I HATE LIPSEYS EXCLUSIVES REEEE JUST MAKE THEM REGULARLY AVAILABLE

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    S&W has had qc issues and the Hillary hole is ugly but short of buying a Manurhin or a Korth they’re the best you can get

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