France begins nuke-warhead production, current 290 insufficient

Fascinating article about the French increasing/renovating their nuke warhead stockpile and a discussion about tritium and detonators,. a topic raised here frequently in relation to probable degradation of some or all Russian nuclear warheads.

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/03/19/france-begins-nuke-warhead-production-current-290-insufficient/

"It appears that France is on the cusp of initiating the production of fresh nuclear warheads. Available open-source information indicates that France currently possesses 290 nuclear warheads, securing the fourth position globally, behind countries such as Russia [with 5,889 warheads], the USA [possessing 5,244 warheads], and China [with 410 warheads]. The timeline for creating new nuclear weapons is rather lengthy, and industry insiders suggest that the earliest new weapons production could commence is 2025, provided the necessary approval is granted by the nuclear safety authority. "

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20231119-france-test-fires-long-range-ballistic-missile-in-effort-to-boost-nuclear-deterrence-credibility

19/11/2023
France test-fires long-range ballistic missile to boost nuclear deterrence
France has successfully test-fired an M51.3 long-range ballistic missile, boosting the credibility of France’s nuclear deterrence capabilities, the defence ministry said on Sunday.

https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/15/german-minister-calls-for-british-and-french-nuclear-weapons-to-protect-europe

15/02/2024
German minister calls for British and French nuclear weapons to protect Europe

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/frances-macron-says-europe-must-be-ready-war-if-it-wants-peace-2024-03-14/

March 14, 20249:40
France's Macron says Europe must be ready if Russia escalates

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >probable degradation of some or all Russian nuclear warheads.
    I miss oppenheimer. He would have eviscerated those morons.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh the Russian warheads have degraded, that is beyond doubt, how many, how much unknown but the probability is most and very badly degraded or completely inoperable.I assume you are the mandatory Russian propagandist chiming in with the dose of Kremlin nonsense/lies.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A reduced nuclear capacity does not equal zero nuclear capacity, like you're trying to imply, and they've been putting in a fairly large amount of money into their nuclear program to refurbish and keep warheads operational in addition to the various delivery platforms they've invested in.

        You morons are fricking impossible to argue with, have a nice day.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they've been putting in a fairly large amount of money into their nuclear program
          On paper*

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t bother with /k/tards, they’ll say Russia has no operable nukes all the way up to the point of them being vaporized and all of their bones turning into glass

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Puccia indeed has no operable nukes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >/k/tards
            >nooooo mighty bear strong please be afraid of our OOK OOK GONNA NOOOK please PLEASE be afraid!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for the purposes of Russian national strategic defense against NATO, a reduced nuclear capacity is arguably worse than zero nuclear capacity because. A reduced nuclear capacity - and make no mistake, the reduction is on the order of 90% or higher - offers no deterrent at all, no meaningful offensive or defensive force at all, and yet costs as much to "maintain" as any other branch of their military without providing any benefit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Caius

        Someone who remembers oppy didn't come here first during the war.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He hasn't posted with his trip in 5 years.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russian propagandists did not start here with the invasion in 22 either, they were here long before that with everything from armatard to boog and spree killer spam as well as the Kremlin perspective on Assad and donbass 2014, airliner shoot downs etc. This board hates the Russian state because of that and did before 22 as well. Muh armata, su57, s400 etc

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Implying /k/ is one person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Total retcon. I’ve been here since 07 and it’s nuts to say that people “hated the Russian state” lmao. Armatard? Yes, annoying, shit on by everyone. Everything Russian? Not even close. You’re shilling

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stop lying and frick off.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. newbie or partisan shill

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's right you know. This is a weapons board, we really don't give a shit about who's evil or whatever. Even Al Qeada and ISIS didn't get this much hate.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                isis and al qaeda didn't flood this website with moronic pajeets and vatBlack folk spamming their puppet trump homosexual bullshit on every board.

                russians are less than human

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Trump website. 41% yourself, homosexual liberal.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Actually they did. Soviet EQUIPMENT was fine and people had some love for like mosins or the SKS or T-62s or whatever but the Russian state was pretty well known to be fricking moronic even before 2014.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              sadly true, but for the proto-vatBlack person's defense they weren't as obnoxious as the post-2014 vatBlack folk and it was mostly about gear and not geopolitics
              guess it has to do with mobilegays and poojets shitting on this board

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It'd be hard for me to dig up the sources but what I read back in the day long before the ukie shit was that the Soviet solid rockets were all in a pretty sad state (the terrestrial ones anyway), but that the big liquid fueled rockets with the bigger MIRVs were all in good order owing to their nature.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not just the rockets, it's the silos, the wiring the electronics , the tritium, the plutonium pits. Its all vastly expensive to maintain and perfect for corruption because who would ever find out? Russia can't even make many new tanks a year, but it can carry out incredibly expensive and difficult continual maintenance on warheads? None of thei 'new' missiles are actually new, as with T72s they are just 'upgraded' older models

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are also other random factors that only autists at the DoE would study. For example, Pantex was having problems with corrosion on the stainless steel containers that house the disassembled pits that could potentially affect the pit itself. So, the autism commenced and a study was created specifically to study this corrosion. Turns out, the containers they stored the steel casks in were made of wood fiber. That wood fiber was largely made of sugar cane bagasse, the leftovers from industrial cane sugar extraction. The stored this onsite and sprayed it with chlorine to keep the bugs off of it. They then sold this bagasse to Louisiana Pacific to manufacture things like wood fiber roofing insulation and apparently these containers. The chlorine would gradually leach out when it gets wet and will pit stainless steel and remove the galvanized coating off galvanized metals. I actually used this to settle an insurance claim on a building roof with a forensic engineer and a materials testing laboratory. The deck was rusted almost uniformly across the entire building, and it was a mystery as to why. Now I know, thanks DoE! Even my engineer was like "where the frick did you find this".
            >t. equally autistic commercial roofing contractor

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >commercial roofing contractor
              >also extremely autistic
              Heyy, are you the DJI AESA package dude? How'd that end up going?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am. It's not going to work, polyiso is apparently pretty radar transparent. So thermal it is. Waiting until the literal israelite I just did a building for to pay the other 600k of his bill (which should be next week woot woot) until I go spending 15k on a drone for work. The DoE is a actually extremely useful for me on the roofing end. Besides this one, they did another out of ORNL about phenolic insulation corrosion on metals I use if the building has old Manville phenolic insulation board or fiberglass insulation using phenolic resins as a binder.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Implying /k/ is one person.

          Go away to /chug/ or wherever this is not the thread for your Kremlin bullshit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it ain't the thread for your moronation either

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nta yes it is.
              Go back to
              /pol/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To what extent? I would be uncomfortable assuming their stockpile had degraded to even 50% of their stated number, roughly 2500 warheads. Assuming things were that bad, it'd still be close to 10 times the number of warheads France currently has. This isn't doomerism or sucking off Russia, it's just making the assumption that a nuclear conflict would still be like fist fighting a guy covered in shit. Even if you knock him out in one punch, the very act of him attempting to swing back on you is going to fling shit all over you too.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even if only handful of their nukes are actually functional, they can do massive damage with just few warheads on major cities.

        To what extent? I would be uncomfortable assuming their stockpile had degraded to even 50% of their stated number, roughly 2500 warheads. Assuming things were that bad, it'd still be close to 10 times the number of warheads France currently has. This isn't doomerism or sucking off Russia, it's just making the assumption that a nuclear conflict would still be like fist fighting a guy covered in shit. Even if you knock him out in one punch, the very act of him attempting to swing back on you is going to fling shit all over you too.

        Roughly half of US and Russian nuclear weapons are essentially abandoned and awaiting for disposal. 1500-ish warheads in both countries are the strategic arsenal. There are probably 200 warheads as spares for strategic arsenal. Both countries maintain maybe few hundred tactical warheads. The remaining 2500 are waiting into being recycled as fuel for civilian nuclear reactors.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they can do massive damage with just few warheads on major cities
          I'm less concerned with the end of the species type aftermath than I am the end of a nuclear taboo being a thing that becomes seen as "not so bad after all". The knock on effects would still likely result in tens, if not hundreds of millions dying around the world either directly from major cities getting erased or from economic upheaval that would come about from what would likely be dubbed after the fact a "post WWIII world".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rotshield want nuke Russians?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That pinkie nail says it all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I love the idea that a division of the Russian Nuclear forces specifically targets John Simpson at all times

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We don't need some dumb namegay who impresses easily-impressed loser like you to tell us what to think.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How about you tell us what Oppenheimer would say instead? Too scared to rely on your own words and too reliant on the appeal to (imaginary) authority to the point you won't even tell us your opinion?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oppenheimer was a big ass pussy you moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Oppenheimer was a big ass pussy you moron
        What's an ass pussy? Sounds gay.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't troony surgery essentially the creation of an ass pussy? It's like discovering non-carbon based life.
          >And this years Nobel in Biology goes to trannies for their discovery of the ass-based pussy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >All of the tightness of an butthole, without all the shit!
            >Que ass-pussy infographic
            >Pussassinil, brought to you by Pfizer

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>All of the tightness of an butthole, without all the shit!
              You make a compelling argument, sir.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think he was talking about /op/penheimer, the nuclear poster of /k/ and not Oppenheimer the "Bombs kill people!?" guy.
        Or at least I hope that's who he was talking about.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He would have told you that nuclear warheads do in fact degrade.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he was one of the good tripgays with willis and mcBlack person

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Old equipment does not last forever, vatnig. Warheads must be reliable to ensure even if the West is destroyed the eternal eastern enemy of civilization is erased to free future Europeans from the Asiatic existential military threat.

      Updating hardware is wise strategy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nuclear warheads do in fact degrade
      This isn't fricking 1945 where you make a plutonium sphere and call it a day.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Caius

    non bulgarianmilitary source
    https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-18/edf-to-produce-radioactive-material-for-france-s-nuclear-weapons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russian shills very fast to try and talk about Reddit as usual too.Seemingly tritium is an upsetting topic for Russian propagandists

      • 4 weeks ago
        Caius

        I am not a russian shill. I found it funny that these were the only hits. Unfortunately it appears I was bamboozled. anime_breasts is apparently just (less?)credibledefense doing a meme.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/u1WktOj.jpg

          >Britain! France! You must protect us with your nukes!
          >NO I will not send ze Taurus to Ukraine
          Frick off Kraut, the last D5 is going to hit you square in the face.

          Ah tarded namehomosexualry too. The complete package of kremlin idiocy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >r/anime_breasts

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/duAuEv1.png

        non bulgarianmilitary source
        https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-18/edf-to-produce-radioactive-material-for-france-s-nuclear-weapons

        Fricking kek

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Britain! France! You must protect us with your nukes!
    >NO I will not send ze Taurus to Ukraine
    Frick off Kraut, the last D5 is going to hit you square in the face.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the last D5 is going to hit you square in the face.
      Try to aim for Berlin or Frankfurt.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Beautiful cities, rich histories. Never.
        Nuke India with every single one, and glass the Allahspark in Saudi Arabia while you're at it.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was announced in the French media just today that Tritium production is to be restarted, 15 years after the decommissioning of the last two breeder reactors at Marcoules.
    Current stockpiles should last until 2035-2040. The plan so far is to breed some tritium in glowie-tuned civilian EDF reactors.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting they are shouting this from the rooftops deliberately then

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is all this article is reporting, plus added conjecture
        >This intriguing revelation comes courtesy of various French media outlets. They have reported that the French Ministry of Defense and EDF plan to combine their efforts to produce tritium.

        Yeah our medias have been beating the drum hard since macron made his speeches. Not sure yet if we're actually planning for total war within a generation, macron still trying to put France in charge of the EU army he'll help build or it's just part of his EU elections campaign. Maybe he's just filling in while the Brits are too busy to act hawkish towards russia.

        A France-led imperial/colonial-minded European Union would fix this timeline so hard. God I hope they actually get away with nuking russia and hopefully the vatBlack folk nuke britain back by accident, would be perfect.

        When we tried that it was called "l'Empire" and our neighbors hated it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Megaphone diplomacy, are they trying to tell Putin they know about the issues Russian nukes have with tritium?

          https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/23/2087736/-Do-any-of-Russia-s-Nuclear-Weapons-Actually-Work

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dailykos
            homie...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ah its just an example. There are hundreds of articles expressing doubt that Russia's nuclear arsenal is funny or even partially functional including delivery systems etc. Its one of the most corrupt nations on earth and a lot of Russian infrastructure is crumbling and their military is, well......full of vapor ware and badly maintained crap like their carrier flagship?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ah its just an example. There are hundreds of articles expressing doubt that Russia's nuclear arsenal is funny or even partially functional including delivery systems etc.
                https://www.wired.com/story/nuclear-weapons-testing/

                "Russia
                It is believed that the shelf life of plutonium pit assemblies in Russia is limited to about 10-15 years because of the way the pits and warheads are designed and manufactured. In particular, because the fissile components are not completely isolated from the surrounding environment as they are being made (perhaps due to weld defects in pit casings), they are subject to corrosion and swelling. Russia therefore needs to remanufacture plutonium pits continuously."
                mot just tritium

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hundreds of articles expressing doubt is such a perfect description.

                Westinghouse went bankrupt in 2017 trying to build their first new reactor in decades, meanwhile Rosatom has ~80% of the world market of new NPPs (22 being built simultaneously just for exports), and it's fuel subdivision is currently the only supplier of advanced HALEU fuel for small modular reactors in the US.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                USA has chased Russian uranium out of Europe and ended their enrichment services.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >france-led EU army that does shit for real
          Not gonna happen in this timeline.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh si si it’s gonna happen and you will like it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hate or not, France is the only nuclear power in the EU. You work with what you have.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            turns out its also the only one in the world with ballistic missiles proven to work so its not all that bad.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what do you mean?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and our neighbors hated it
          mainly because they stopped being your neighbors and started being your prisoners
          we don't mind your moronic domestic politics and how you have to rack up a new republic every decade or so but keep it in your own (internationally recognized, none of that to the Rhine shit) borders

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Part of the point of having a nuclear armament is let everyone know you have it so they don't frick with you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Caius

      That is all this article is reporting, plus added conjecture
      >This intriguing revelation comes courtesy of various French media outlets. They have reported that the French Ministry of Defense and EDF plan to combine their efforts to produce tritium.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >EDF
      TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN ATTACK

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Current stockpiles should last until 2035-2040. The plan so far is to breed some tritium in glowie-tuned civilian EDF reactors.

      >the stockpiles of this isotope with half-life of 12.3 years, that we last made 15 years ago, should last us 15 more years

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon do you understand what half-life is?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can make 100 years worth of tritium moron, you just make so much of it that even with decay you can have enough to use. Being isotopes they're nontrivially easy to seperate but it's easier than creating it in the first place.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A France-led imperial/colonial-minded European Union would fix this timeline so hard. God I hope they actually get away with nuking russia and hopefully the vatBlack folk nuke britain back by accident, would be perfect.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Russia even have a nuclear deterrent if there is the slightest question in its enemies heads that the Russians nuclear arsenal is defective?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does Russia even have a nuclear deterrent if there is the slightest question in its enemies heads that the Russians nuclear arsenal is defective?
      Yeah, because nuclear deterrence stops working if and only if your enemy is certain that your arsenal doesn't work. The mere rumor of having nuclear weapons works as a nuclear deterrent. See exhibit A, Israel.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they need permission from nuclear safety authorities?

    I thought nook havers just built them alongside with their MIC?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought nook havers just built them alongside with their MIC?
      Nooks are mainly maintained by the civilian nuclear energy sector.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >German minister calls for British and French nuclear weapons to protect Europe
    What a fricking tool. The best way UK and France could use them to protect Europe is dropping them all on Germany.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree, Germany needs it's own nuclear weapons. We already have the facilities and the know how, it's just a question of political will

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Germany
        >it's just a question of political will
        >fricking Germany
        Yea so it's not happening.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nukes existing
    it's all so tiresome

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's just like normal bombs but bigger

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wdym?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he fell for the well poisoning
      imagine being this much of a dipshit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine bumping your dogshit thread every 5-6 hours like we can't all tell

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >largest share of electricity generated by nuclear power of any country
    >last western nation to conduct nuclear tests
    >gave israel nukes
    >almost gave iraq nukes
    >blew up a greenpeace ship because they wanted to protest their nukes
    >will throw a nuke at you as a "warning shot"
    wtf is their problem?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wtf is their problem?
      It's complicated but tl;dr I'd say it's a mix of two world wars on French soil for the unapologetically escalatory nuclear doctrine, Suez and the loss of the empire driving home the fact that France isn't a top tier world player and a general disdain of both the USA and the USSR.
      At some point, someone obviously decided the best way to be a "balancing power" was to be an ass to absolutely everyone else.
      And frick Greenpeace. We should have let them sail into the test zone, arrested every single person aboard and gone full Bikini atoll on that nuisance of a ship.

      >Current stockpiles should last until 2035-2040. The plan so far is to breed some tritium in glowie-tuned civilian EDF reactors.

      >the stockpiles of this isotope with half-life of 12.3 years, that we last made 15 years ago, should last us 15 more years

      anon do you understand what half-life is?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Being backstabbed by the US that teamed up with the fricking Soviet Union during the Suez crisis, even though France won the war alongside the UK. France quite didn't like the sanctions, such as having no oil for months and rationing it, people couldn't even use their cars anymore, sent the country back 2 decades in the pas. This is the very moment the UK decided to become a puppet, and the moment De Gaulle went nuclear. Literally.
      A good wake up call that you can only count on yourself. The US is, and we can see it today once again with Ukies getting cucked once more, an unreliable ally.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >US teaming with the Soviets in 19 fricking 54
        Ultra cringe.

        Well we had one last hurrah and showed the world how to carry out a propper amphibious and air assault before we both were sold out by the US.
        Ive seen lots of British videos on the Suez Crisis, do you know of any French ones?
        Theres some decent pics of Op Musketeer here, has alot of French soldiers in there too.
        https://www.paradata.org.uk/media/event/11271?page=0
        We should have build as many nuclear reactors as France also, that was decent forward thinking. At least we didnt rely on that Russian gas though..

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah there is non zero chance my grandfather might be in thoses pictures lol
          >do you know of any French ones?
          There are documentaries on youtube but you would have to rely on subtitles

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can deal with subtitles, but when i search it just brings up the British ones. Ill try again later.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              here's a couple

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you wanted to be a world power you should have pulled this, Pierre. Now you’re irrelevant.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By the post you replied too its clear that anon is British you dumb frick.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            'Tis not tooblate, but only on the condition that we get to kinetically reduce the british arisrocracy. Or at the very least the tories.

            And they cannot set policy for a good 20 years until the "new public management" morons all die or retire.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's called "Based" and even a follower of Misc Pot Thought such as myself can admit when fr*nce does something right

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget them wanting to carpet nuke the Viet Minh in the mountains surrounding Dien Bien Phu just to defend it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      being absolutely based by the sound of it. Wish more nuclear capable western nations had such balls.

      Pretty funny that the most vile derivatives of pinkoism like wokeism are in part traced back to nihilistic french academics

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>will throw a nuke at you as a "warning shot"
      pls tell moar

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        See this little sexy ASMPA boy? That's the warning shot in nuclear form telling you to calm your breasts and go back home before the big boys suddenly illuminate your skies like a hundreds of Suns.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >300kt warning shot
          noice

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Excuse you, it's variable yield.

            It can be cranked down to 100kt, kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Belgium or Germany were to be nuked if soviet got too close from French border. Must have worked since most soviet plans stopped at the French border.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We did not get nukes for a prestige thing, we got nukes for survival. The WW1 butchery, and the 1940 and Suez humiliations were deep national traumas. We went so nuke-heavy so eagerly and at such great cost () because it was the shortest and surest path to long-lasting strength and security. We would do anything and I mean ANYTHING rather than face a 1940 ever again, and much of that "anything" involves nukes. In the 60s we had to sacrifice a big naval program with 4 carrier and multiple cruisers, at the risk of severely weakening our overseas possessions, to develop our nuclear triad. Once we got it, our plan was to nuke the hell out of West Germany with Plutons and Mirage IV if the Soviet couldn't be stopped at the Iron Curtain while the SSBN were her to "strike beyond the grave" in the case that the country was lost.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nuke everything east of vistula
    >split off eastern germany from the rest of the country
    >western poland and eastern germany get in a cage match, the winner gets to rule both as germany's moronic cousin who is mostly there for cheap labor
    >nuke paris, amsterdam and malmo
    the good end

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Huh, didn't the frenchies have MORE nooks than the chinee?

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, the article saying the Krauts threatened war against the French if they accelerate Ukraine was a fake?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NUCLEAR WARS' BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >probable degradation of some or all Russian nuclear warheads.

    Even if 10% of monke's nuclear arsenal is still functional, that's still more than 500 nukes that could go falling on our heads.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they have 500 operable warheads, 50 might get launched successfully, 5 might make it out of their tubes, and none would hit anything.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        500 operable warheads isn't even a lot when you consider there can be up to 10 per missile. Half of that would be SLBMs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We didn't just throw up out hands and ignore MIRVs as an ABM defense problem. We haven't faced off against nuclear missiles for 70+ years and failed to create an entire defense screen. So your degraded inaccurate rotted Vatnik missiles are not a credible threat at all.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    nobody needs to nuke Russia, it's already an uninhabitable wasteland full of irradiated half-dead crazy savages.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You could always stop shooting at Ukies and go back home.
    Otherwise eat all the fricking nukes you can take.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only leftists want war with Russia once you drop nukes it's going to result in massive civil war.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Only leftists want war with Russia

        Only shills and traitors don't want war with muscovites

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Leftists are traitors to white race. Bloodthirsty nobodies who will soon suck shit from Indian street. It's lose lose scenario for you

          1. You can't win in shitkraine without using nukes
          2. If you use nukes civil war will being and all of you will be held accountable according to turner diaries

          You lost

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >suck shit from indian street?

            Shiet, we even outsourced our lefties?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most of the good parts of the Soviet Union were outsourced after all. Their nuclear security was fricking American lol.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >traitors to white race
            >degenerate churka mongol rapists from the asian steppes are le saviors of the white race
            unironically KYS

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Only leftists want war with Russia
        Didn't know that. I guess I'm the most leftist left there is. If there is only one person wishing for all Russians to die left in the world, I am that person.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Russian mainstream media discusses nuking the west every other day. Can you imagine of Anderson Cooper starts gloating about nuking Moscow?

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think yuros shit on frogs because they’re jealous

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    France can become a serious threat to the US hold on Europe if they get uppity. The best US strategy is to saw divisions among europoors and prevent them from uniting under france. Make Britain and france nuke each other long term. Make China, Russia, Pakistan, India nuke each other while supporting all of them in it against each other. Divide and conquer.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Joke's on you. France and Britain have more warheads aimed at each other than they have aimed at Russia or China.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is the joke on me? I said they're supposed to nuke each other.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Activate your brain cells and I'm sure you can figure it out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok mossad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >obsessed with one dominating over others like some mob family
      >claiming unironic divide and conquer tactics
      you aint fooling anybody churka pidor. You know you always out yourself since your train of thought is so outlandish and alien to normal, civilized people of the west. Thank god your type is evolutionary dead end and destined to be snuffed out as unsustainable and backwards

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >France can become a serious threat to the US hold on Europe if they get uppity.
      Anon, how does France, a country that America has good relations with and is at least nominally allied with, getting nukes make them a strategic threat to American interests in Europe? So long as the frogs don't start nuking people at random, i really don't think Americans are going to really care about what they do.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The US actually care. France is the only European country with completely autonomous nuclear capability, since the UK nukes are mostly under US supervision. Of course Macron wants to "give" french nukes to the EU, which proves that he's a traitor.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He wants to give them the same way Americans gave nuke to Germany.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > SK can assemble over 4000 in a year
    > Japan can assemble over 1000 in a year
    > Saudi Arabia can assemble/acquire 100+ in a year and 1000+ over a few years

    Let's see if the frogs are stupid enough to give the above an excuse to build up

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These numbers are moronic. At its peak Rocky Flats produced less than 2000 pits per year.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    France & Britain are the only two european countries with nukes

    I did not know that...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are nukes in the Netherlands, Germany and Turkey on US airbases

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Netherlands, Germany and Turkey on US airbases
        >on US airbases

        Those are US nukes that the US has control over. France and Britain are the only european countries that have their own nukes in the sense that they can deploy them at their own discretion, without needing the go-ahead from the US.

        >captcha: PAJIT
        heh.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dumb gravity bombs
        Might as well fill them with concrete. That's how useless they are. What is it, 1945?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dumb gravity bombs

          That can be dropped from literal stealth aircraft.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Guess what, I'll still take the supersonic nuke cruise missile that can be launched from over 1000km away over having to overfly a nuke target.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Me too, but that ain't the point, is it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Meh, stealth indeed changed the game a bit, and you're right to point that out, as it make those bombs have relevance again. But stealth plane doesn't mean you're stealth until point zero where you get to drop your gravity bomb. Far from it. Stealth means you're stealth enough to launch your missiles 100-150km away from your target that just started noticing you at the last moment. Meaning you won. Granted, you have a significant advantage in that configuration. But you're still 100-150km away from your target, and for your gravity assist payload to be successful. Not that nuking those frickers moles ruining your farm fields isn't useful, but still.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Though, I might add, they could make them glided. Now that would be devilish. I don't think the B-61 is glided, is it? If they could make a glided version over +100km range, that would be perfect in association with a F35.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                B61-12 can glide but not as much as wing kit JDAMs. I don't think adding wings is a good idea, it will become a slow relatively high RCS target so too easy to intercept

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know, and I agree, but even without

              Though, I might add, they could make them glided. Now that would be devilish. I don't think the B-61 is glided, is it? If they could make a glided version over +100km range, that would be perfect in association with a F35.

              a glide kit, being able to deploy gravity nukes from a stealth aircraft would allow you to get closer for nothing else, to theoretically tossbomb (I have zero idea if that's something a 35 can do, but I don't see a reason why not).

              As for the actual glide kit point: That would be devilish indeed. The B61 has the same form factor as a Mk 83 (1000lbs) or a Mk 84 (2000lbs), right?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    without plutonium impossible

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1- uranium also does the job
      2- France can produce plutonium, and does to the best of my knowledge
      3- France has enough weapon-grade fissile material stockpiles to build hundreds if not thousands of nukes.
      https://fissilematerials.org/countries/france.html

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just what europe needs, as france is overwhelmed by muslims, africans, and foriegners. When statistics are banned and france will be run by non french within a generation. Now is when they need a dramatic increase in nukes for the next generation to inherit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > russia is overwhelmed by muslims, africans, and foriegners. When statistics are banned and russia will be run by non russian within a generation. Now is when they need a dramatic increase in nukes for the next generation to inherit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So they're just like us, we should become friends again. I want a black Russian wife.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off to russia then.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as france is overwhelmed by muslims, africans, and foriegners. When statistics are banned and france will be run by non french within a generation. Now is when they need a dramatic increase in nukes for the next generation to inherit.
      Oh non je suis vraiment démoralisé.
      Anon France was built on the foundation of multiple ethnic groups coming under a single general's command twice (vs the Huns and then the Umayidds). It took in the Normans invaders and turned them into a weapon to wield against the English.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those situations have nothing in common with the current state of our country you disingenuous homosexual. Who is going to convince Ahmed to go to war, Macron ? LMAO.

        I'm ashamed of the current state of /k/, it's impossible to have a semblance of serious and honest discussion anymore. It's more Reddit than PrepHole.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok this is the gayest take on french history I’ve ever read, go back to r/france you dumb Black person

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nyaaaa, you must be from reddit

          Die in a ditch, moron. All fricking morons dooming about "fRaNcE's iMmInEnT dEmOgRaPhIc ShIfT tO tHe DaRk SiDe" can't read a fricking demographic map and charts, you being one apparently.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Demographic charts show that once boomers die, the demographic shift will come pretty fast since white people don't reproduce as much as they should anymore. In most large city schools, whites are already in minority. That's factual. And I say that as a non-white man myself.

            Frick off to russia then.

            I would if you gave me proof that Russia is the multicultural hellhole that you think it is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              21 republics are part of russia, what more do you want?

              >And I say that as a non-white man myself.
              Which invalidates your opinion

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >white people
              turdie just exposed their hand again. Only ones even using that term are either turdies or burgers who are so intermixed they cant even tell apart anymore what their historical roots are. Thus everybody euro descent are ""white"" while somehow the latinos are not white because apparently spanish/portugese derivatives are not european.

              In euroland its distinct ethnics. The most western russians resemble europeans but not european will ever call them their friend

              and yes frenchie here is correct. Muzzie and nig degenerates squatting in their ghettos is a complete meme pumped up by hostile and malicious outfits seeking to spread subversion and demoralization. They need overwhelming numbers to achieve anything and they sure as shit aint reaching those ever as long as natives can live in peace times in their regular lives.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m French and have no idea what you’re talking about, people use the word “white” all the time here, be they leftist, right wing, white or non-white. And it means the same thing to them as it does to americans.
                You sound like either an american liberal who has an idealized vision of Europe or a european who is a bit stuck in his own bubble.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm french

                From parizhkaya oblast, no doubt

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's no argument to win against disingenuous idiots like yourself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What argument? You're repeating media scarepoints like they're real.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Giving ASPMA to allied EU countries seems extremely based. Especially compared to those rubbish-ass Burger-61.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a topic raised here frequently in relation to probable degradation of some or all Russian nuclear warheads.

    oh god the same morons that believed russia makes missiles out of washing machines

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A federation of European states would have a serious nuclear arsenal and a GDP the size of the USA, it is not a bad idea as federalists propose to secure Europe.

    The CIA itself originally kept Europe away from Soviet/communist rule during reconstruction through the labor unions, but it is nuclear weapons such as the American missiles in Germany that thwart direct conflict in the region.

    Ukraine had a nuclear stockpile until the 1990s and France is probably increasing theirs for related geopolitical reasons.

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