France Beating up American/Europe Market Potential

>https://twitter.com/CallSigMaverick/status/1614155570105450496

>Malaysian renowned prominent defence expert researcher revealed that French-made Rafale Multi-role Fighter already destroying American and European fighter market with multiple orders from various country especially from Middle East and Asia. This statement were supported by multiple defence expert researcher from India who testified the superiority of French Rafale especially against; terrorist Paki F-16V.

So/ How come a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkey killing the American fighter plane market potential? In this statement correct?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    imagine buying a 4th gen fighter that costs more than a 5th gen F-35

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      buying from French are much easier than buying from America because of "muh muh congress" and israelite lobbyist.

      Not everyone prefer to be American b***h slave.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Americans like to put some restriction in the usage of their military hardware. I mean forbidding the country who buy the US military hardware to use said hardware for fighting against some terrorist organizations and the threaten them with sanction if they disobey is not exactly a good marketing.

        This

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >buying from French are much easier than buying from America because of "muh muh congress" and israelite lobbyist.

        Don't forget the Greek and Armenian lobbyists. They dictate French arms transfers too but it's not like Turkey is trying to purchase Rafales so it just hurts US sales of the F-16.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This guy can go suck big haram gaul boar's testicles, since the former prime minister of Malaysia said, and I quote
          >muslims have the right to kill millions of french
          So frick Malaysia.
          >https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20201029-malaysian-ex-pm-mahathir-says-muslims-have-right-to-kill-french
          Moreover
          >multiple defence expert researcher from India who testified the superiority of French Rafale especially against; terrorist Paki F-16V.
          Pakistan has no F-16V, they got a few block 52 and a bunch of block 15, so what the frick is this guy talking about? Indian "experts" can go frick themselves too considering the volume of shit they threw at France since 2016 accusing the french of being scammers. Hello sirs, no you can't redeem Rafale transfert of technology.
          France has been trying the whole kamasutra for these guys who think buying 36 Rafale would grant them a special access to Alizee's boobs and vagene. Since then the UAE has bought 80 and never asked for anything in return.
          >So/ How come a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkey killing the American fighter plane market potential? In this statement correct?
          It's not, those who buy french either do because they can't buy american or don't want to buy american. It's a tiny market and I don't see more than maybe 500 Rafale being exported and 250 built for domestic use in a far away future. We currently sit at 495 including 285 export.
          However this small success is indeed unacceptable in the eyes of the murrican' industry who thinks only them should sell weapons and then get special access to Alizee's vag for their amerimutt tiny AIDS-riddled fentanyl addicted wieners.

          Go cum in your kebab as a replacement for white sauce, turk. You are so schizo you think France is like 90% greek and 250% armenian or something. We don't need these guys to hate you.

          If any homosexual ITT has any other question, every answer is in this video:

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Americans like to put some restriction in the usage of their military hardware. I mean forbidding the country who buy the US military hardware to use said hardware for fighting against some terrorist organizations and the threaten them with sanction if they disobey is not exactly a good marketing.

        And yet....

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And how many F-35 that kept grounding due to accident, software failure and crash? Even Indian Tejas got more better safety record than F-35.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING SIRS

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >And how many F-35 that kept grounding due to accident, software failure and crash?
            >kept
            Literally none. The problem is investigated, fixed, and the planes back in the air in record time.
            >Even Indian Tejas got more better safety record than F-35.
            Work on your English, you low IQ inbred shitskin.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            the third worlder thinks quality control is failure

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, that gave me a good laugh. Thanks anon.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think you realise how much the French are international pieces of shit, like to do deals with the French is like doing deals with imperial china, only just minus the actual kowtowing, you accept all of their demands (which are always massively in french favour) and have to just hope they don't decide to change the contract or ask for a couple million more euros just to give you the thing you have already ordered.

        It's hard to explain the mindset of a nation that literally could not understand why the Algerians wanted independence, to them the idea of not wanting to be Frances b***h is unthinkable, and they have continued with this mindset for years, still confused when Australia didn't want to pay more more subs that France had delayed many times, and when mali would rather deal with an islamic insurgency than with French totally-not-colonial forces.

        France is Russia with working toilets

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >It's hard to explain the mindset of a nation that literally could not understand why the Algerians wanted independence, to them the idea of not wanting to be Frances b***h is unthinkable, and they have continued with this mindset for years, still confused when Australia didn't want to pay more more subs that France had delayed many times, and when mali would rather deal with an islamic insurgency than with French totally-not-colonial forces.
          Bruce, when you sign the contract saying that your industrial base is "totally able to make submarines mate" and it turns out that it's a fricking lie, everything else is on you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Pierre, when you sign a contact that says their industrial base is "totally able to make submarines mate" and it turns out that it's a fricking lie, it's on you too buddy.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Bruce, when the Huehues and the Poos can do what you can't, you really need to have a bit of self-reflection.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Deflection

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          We got it : the most assraped anon by France
          Rent free

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not every country is allowed stealth technology, and the Rafale is the 2nd best 4th gen after the F15, which is even more expensive

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't looked up any numbers but I'm going to bet that total lifetime cost of a Rafale is much lower than that of a F-35.
      Also, half those countries just wouldn't be allowed to buy F-35s.
      Now I would have bought the Gripen instead, because it's aesthetically superior, and I hate the French. But that's just me and the Swedes are probably the worst cucks when it comes to export restrictions.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I haven't looked up any numbers but I'm going to bet that total lifetime cost of a Rafale is much lower than that of a F-35.
        Depends on how you calculate these "lifetime costs" and what is added into the total. Like fuel, maintenance, upgrades, total crew salaries for the duration of the frames life, storage buildings, tools, inventory system costs, spares, etc. It's more complicated than just X is less than Y.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Well I just assumed a plane covered in composites would be more expensive to maintain.
          Then again, the Rafale has two engines, so who the frick knows.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            According to Finns, the maintenance cost between aircraft isn't huge. Anon is right, calculation is simply hard to compare between nations. They simply have different calculations.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Also, half those countries just wouldn't be allowed to buy F-35s.
        >Now I would have bought the Gripen instead, because it's aesthetically superior, and I hate the French. But that's just me and the Swedes are probably the worst cucks when it comes to export restrictions.
        If you can't buy the F-35, you can't buy the Gripen, because like more than half of it's components is american made

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yep, it has to abide by ITAR.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lmao @ people calling this a swedish plane

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lmao @ people calling this a swedish plane

            Let's be frank here, the gripen is essentially an IKEA-fied f-16.

            https://i.imgur.com/Fq2QteA.jpg

            >https://twitter.com/CallSigMaverick/status/1614155570105450496

            >Malaysian renowned prominent defence expert researcher revealed that French-made Rafale Multi-role Fighter already destroying American and European fighter market with multiple orders from various country especially from Middle East and Asia. This statement were supported by multiple defence expert researcher from India who testified the superiority of French Rafale especially against; terrorist Paki F-16V.

            So/ How come a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkey killing the American fighter plane market potential? In this statement correct?

            Somehow those listicles always forget the fact that the French navy also operates the rafale and forget to account that number to the total.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Even on our biggest foreign market competitors' planes, much of the production is made or designed in America. God it feels good to be an American working in aerospace.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nice. I guess that means more job security for me.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Engine
            >US, Canada, UK
            wait, I thought Safran/Snecma made the current engine? Subcontractors aside, does Safran not manufacture and build the engines on French soil?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It’s a Gripen drawing, not Rafale
              Now I understand why fighter threads on /k/ are so low quality, you all have zero idea of what you are talking about

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >F35
      >5th gen
      No one even agree on that classification.
      The only reason it's 'cheaper' now is because they've already scammed everyone hiding maintenance cost or retrofitting the previous half-finished prototype, they already want to change the engine.
      Germany didn't want the F35 but were forced to because of NATO nuke deterrence, Australia and South Korea also wanted to test it, but you know how the US operate with back deal now.

      I bet Lockheed have full time shills working to salvage the F35 reputation.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The only people who don't agree on F-35 being 5th Gen is other aircraft shills.

        Half-finished prototype? Lmao. Various pictures inside the factory at various stages simply debunks your point. And wanting new engines is because of an increased amount of processing requirements. It's one of the consequences of having a very high bandwidth data bus.

        If anything that have backdoor deals, it's Rafale. Their current scandal in Switzerland is fun to watch. Dangling EU cooperation and electricity as a bargaining chip is such a lol.

        I bet Dassault have full time shills working to salvage the Rafale's failed competition against F-35. This is especially magnified when going to a French forum.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    now post the list of current F-35 operators

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    homie USA has sold like 300 f-35s in the last few months

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Americans like to put some restriction in the usage of their military hardware. I mean forbidding the country who buy the US military hardware to use said hardware for fighting against some terrorist organizations and the threaten them with sanction if they disobey is not exactly a good marketing.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    qrd f35 and biden?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Biden's been diplomatically bipolar with the oil sheiks.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No better than an F-16, which was designed in the early 1970s. KEK.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Let's check the list.....yep Rafale is considered a 3rd world friendly aircraft operated by poors. Fascinating.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not even.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >citing a National Interest article
        Jesus fricking Christ why don't you go back choking on some wieners ?
        OP is a homosexual for posting Le Twitter analyst-screencap, but you may be even worse

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why do your poo cousins make you chinsects seethe so much, Dong Tu Smol?

  8. 1 year ago
    RC-135 Rivet Joint

    >"This statement were supported by multiple defence expert researcher from India who testified the superiority of French Rafale especially against; terrorist Paki F-16V."

    Damn I'm convinced and demoralized

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    British false flag thread

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    hon hon hon

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    american engineering is a meme, keep safe

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >How come a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkey killing the American fighter plane market potential?
    Imagine you are neutral-ish 3rd world Asian country
    you can have fighters from following countries:
    >USA
    great performance at reasonable price due to mass production
    but they use military deals as diplomatic carrot on a stick and if you displease them, they won't supply you planes or spare parts for ones you already have
    if you don't play ball, your airforce will get grounded (literally and figuratively)
    >Russia
    the planes are cheap, great for airshows, but kinda shit if you're actually risking going to fight
    >China
    probably the reason why you are arming yourself in the first place
    >French
    Rafale are less cost effective than American planes, but they don't play geopolitics in Asia, so you can do whatever you want
    also you can use them on a carrier (India)
    >Sweden
    Gripen is cheap for a western jet, even cheaper to keep running than Mig-29 is
    but the smaller size means lower range and payload capacity
    >South Korea
    T-50 is not a thoroughbred fighter, but can do the job if you don't have deep pockets

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >French Rafale especially against; terrorist Paki F-16V

    Pretty sure it was MIG-21 vs JF-17 instead.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That last point

    >4. Better than F-35

    WHAT THE FLYING SATAN'S ARSE IS THIS?

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