Force fields/Energy shields when?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When they become cheaper than just replacing things that get hit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cheaper
      are you saying they're possible now but just overly expensive?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I’m sure if you built a fuckhuge bunch of electromagnets and put an entire nuclear reactor’s worth of power through them (provided you have enough cooling systems they don’t just melt) then the field produced could deflect or stop bullets and shells, sure

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Unless the projectile is not magnetic.
          Time to invest into trebuchets.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Plasma windows can literally prevent air from escaping into vacuum. I'm assuming a fuckhueg enough plasma window can stop a fucking rock

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            all things are magnetic, you just need a strong enough magnetic force.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              gonna shoot my superconductor bullets at your strong enough magnetic force and see what it does

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wouldn't the magnets just attract whatever metalic object flies at them?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >i'll take electromagnetic particles of a specific charge for 500 alex!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It wouldn't necessarily need to deflect or stop anything. Just inducing a tumble in a projectile would be enough to severely reduce damage potential.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Magnet brakes are already a thing. Make them more powerful and they could probably also stop bullets mid-air.
        ...until bullets are made from ceramics or plastics, then you're fucked.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We could've had them in the 1980's, if 3M had realized the potential of what they had in their possession.
    https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/3m_force_field

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they create a "force field" out of rolls of plastic
      I'm skeptical about this, if this had any potential you bet your left nut DARPA would have jumped on it faster than kids in a bouncy castle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't follow.
        [...]
        Pretty crazy to stumble into that. Unironically what kind of stuff could DARPA have been messing around with in this field since? Could be some interesting stuff

        Let's not pretend to know what's in DoD/Darpa's basement. I'm sure there's plenty of goodies squirelled away for the day that a motherfucker tries and we need to extend more than 1% of our dong to fuck them raw.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This sounds like some dork just trying to live his SciFi fantasies

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When we figure out how to prevent cancer in human beings probably.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't follow.

      We could've had them in the 1980's, if 3M had realized the potential of what they had in their possession.
      https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/3m_force_field

      Pretty crazy to stumble into that. Unironically what kind of stuff could DARPA have been messing around with in this field since? Could be some interesting stuff

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        High EMF/RF exposure on a regular basis has been shown to damage DNA in human beings.
        Presumably most of what you'd want to protect with a force field will be operated by humans within, and this exposed to some significant energy on a regular/continuous basis, even with shielding.
        In short if you fire up a "force field" with commonly understood physics principles ruling over whatever technology you're utilizing, with members of humanity nearby, you're going to start turning DNA into soup.
        Thus, tumors and cancerous growth.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Could be a good time

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Could have a radiation shielded cockpit, or design the shields in a way that any radiation is only emitted outwards and set rules that shields can only be activated after takeoff/deactivated before landing to protect ground crews.

          I think those rules are already in place for certain active radars on jets. Not sure if this is true or just airforce spooky stories but I've heard claims that if you walked in front of a fighter jet with it's active radar array turned on you're basically guaranteed cancer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think radars cause cancer like that. They don't emit ionizing radiation. It's more like being cooked in a microwave.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >wave resonates with molecule
              >heats it up
              >it hits stuff
              >stuff breaks
              >free radicals n sheit
              >?????
              >cancer?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It would have to be emitting huge amounts of power to have a significant effect in this way

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mean we're talking about an energy level that would be expected to slow or stop incoming projectiles traveling above mach.
                It would probably be enough energy at such a high freq that it would turn soil around it on the ground into glass.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Like the amount of power you'd need for an energy shield capable of stopping kinetic impacts? It's amazing how you're intelligent enough to form a response but too stupid to retain the context. Almost like an npc in a video game

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >like the amount to stop an impact
                No, much more still

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, but what I'm saying is that it would be such an unbelievably overwhelming amount of directed energy that it wouldn't be easy (if possible at all) to overcome even it's leakage with shielding.
            Like even with active radar if you get a large object like a balloon with a piece of aluminum foil on it or something too close to the emitter suddenly, the backscatter could damage your receivers.
            For something like a shield you're taking about orders of magnitude more energy, at SUPER high frequency to prevent it from emanating too far off into the distance and causing unintentional conflicts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not great not terrible

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >high end/rf can damage DNA
          Nah, at least not conclusively shown to be the case. There have been all sorts of papers on this exact subject. Until you get into ionizing radiation levels, emf isn't going to kill you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        High EMF/RF exposure on a regular basis has been shown to damage DNA in human beings.
        Presumably most of what you'd want to protect with a force field will be operated by humans within, and this exposed to some significant energy on a regular/continuous basis, even with shielding.
        In short if you fire up a "force field" with commonly understood physics principles ruling over whatever technology you're utilizing, with members of humanity nearby, you're going to start turning DNA into soup.
        Thus, tumors and cancerous growth.

        Yeah, but a machine could still run it. Right? Slap it on a drone and it'll do wonders.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is no money in preventing or curing cancer. Plenty to be made in research though

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Define a "shield".
    If you put that word to the dissection table, we have shields fielded by militaries right now, they are called armour protection systems or APS.

    If you are talking about things like in your OP, which you are, then the closest thing we have are British prototypes that turn armour into batteries which discharge into the projectile whem hit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Define a "shield".
      I'd say some sort of projected field or region of space surrounding an asset that can capture or safely dissipate energy without contacting or otherwise causing damage to the asset.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Will it bring back battleships?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People used to cry about cavalry same way we cry about battleships, they ain't coming back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >People used to cry about cavalry same way we cry about battleships, they ain't coming back.
        Cavalry may be gone but at least we have a modern successor to Dragoons (teams using dirt bikes and atvs). Although some might argue that light vehicles with mounted guns, and I mostly mean here that there's still a man on top exposed and firing while charging into enemy lines, like we've seen in that past year

        What is this weebshit revenge wet dream

        Arpeggio

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Kino footage, haven't seen that.
          I believe, and many in the military, is that rotary wing forces are the modern cavalry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Kino footage, haven't seen that
            That's nuckingfuts iirc
            The AT4 guy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Where to cop the version with the Halo 3 warthog run score?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But they did come back, we just use vehicles instead of horses now. But there is no equivalent to a machine whose main way of fighting is big fuckoff guns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What is this weebshit revenge wet dream

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >What is this weebshit revenge wet dream
        Revenge? Pretty sure that scene includes lots of nip ships getting sunk too, some final global last stand. IIRC that weird manga humanity was shut out of the seas worldwide, and there are WW2 ships featured from everyone Allied or Axis. Haven't read it in a few years though and anime looked like trash so never watched that at all beyond the trailers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          At first glance it looked like a bunch of imperial Japanese ships using magic shields and beams to destroy a modern navy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >At first glance it looked like a bunch of imperial Japanese ships using magic shields and beams to destroy a modern navy
            That is correct, enemy ships are old IJN ships. Later one US, Royal Navy, and Kriegsmarine ships are confirmed so its just that each nation is attacked by copies of their own old ships.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why does anime always have to have the most retarded settings

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                to be fair the ships were meant to activate in 1945 but something put them into a suspended state for almost a century and then they attacked and blockaded the worlds oceans.
                So presumably at the time of their creation the ships were just copies of contemporary designs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was just the world navy picking a fight with what's called the Fleet of Fog that's camping Japanese water that's comprised many of Japanese ships.

        There's also a Fleet of Fog in the Atlantic made up of Axis and Allied ships, so you get the see the Bismark and Prince of Wales team up.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never with any known current tech. Advanced APS is not only attainable but probably fundamentally more efficient anyway since only the energy needed to intercept a given incoming object is expended.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Already here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It still needs to be extensively tested on paper bags for a successful tuning

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How is the Lahaina fire some sort of conspiracy now?

      >t. Was there

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hawaii is the mecha of right wing boomers and they don't believe any ills could ever befall their paradise of tourist traps without """"interference """"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Hawaii is the mecha of right wing boomers
          ..Are you pretending to be retarded?
          Hawaii is one of the most left-wing places in the US.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >mecha

          >Hawaii is the mecha of right wing boomers
          ..Are you pretending to be retarded?
          Hawaii is one of the most left-wing places in the US.

          He’s saying that boomers idolize Hawaii as a vacation spot, not that they live there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It was actually an autocorrect but I left it because it was hilarious

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It was actually an autocorrect but I left it because it was hilarious

            Well then the question of "muh conspiracy theories" is really simple:

            Do you put it past the US government to stage a crisis if doing so could sway the public opinion on some issue a certain way, yes or no?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They've done it before. It's not really a question since it's a well documented fact. That's not to say it's easily done or decided on lightly, though. I don't see how starting a fire in Hawaii could sway public opinion any which way on any given subject, though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                From what I understand the conspiracy theory-position is that there a multiple theories why:
                -Make the owners sell their burned down homes to blackrock adjacent companies.
                -Convince the general population that "Climatechange bad" is the next big thing to really around

                I have no opinion on it other then generally being distrustful of governments, be it russia or the US or any other.

                I think you're a fucking moron if you think Hawaiian wildfires or really any other natural disaster are staged. I love how contrarians think everyone else is sheep for not reflexively believing that everything is a conspiracy when they themselves are the ones blindly believing the opposite of what they're told

                https://i.imgur.com/PEr78f6.jpg

                It’s true. The US government turned on the wind machines to make 30mph winds, turned off the rain machines so there would be no moisture, and built a mountain to block clouds from reaching western maui. They also stole fire from the gods.

                Your spergout about a simple hypothetical question is noted.
                Make you should ask yourselves instead why it triggered you so.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *maybe

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >blackrock
                Eh, maybe but blackrock hasn't needed to do anything to get what they want in the past. They'll get theirs no matter what, unfortunately
                >climatechangebad
                People already think this and they're right to. A fire in Hawaii isn't convincing anyone except maybe Hawaiians? Seems more believable to me that, aside from the obvious answer that it's a natural phenomenon, it's some isolationist group of natives trying to tell whitey to go home

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it's some isolationist group of natives trying to tell whitey to go home
                Not super uncommon sentiment in Hawaii, but Lahaina is mostly local. If this were an act of anti colonizer arson, you would want to target resorts, condos, etc. Not your own houses.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >wildfire? da gubbermint did it
                >hurricanes? Gubmint.
                >tsunami? Gubmint antarctic superweapon testing
                >lighting strikes? Secret gubmint assassination too
                >landslides? Avalanches? Earthquakes? Rain? Wind? Sun? Moon? Stars? Sky? Planet? Reality? Gubbermint simulation, believe it or not
                medication

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Again: Your spergout about a simple hypothetical question is noted.
                Maybe you should ask yourselves instead why it triggered you so.

                Conspiracy theories often employ a throw everything at the wall strategy.
                You can't possibly deboonk every theory and some deboonkings will be mutually exclusive with other deboonkings.
                It's only the mental illness of people trying to project control onto an uncontrollable world.

                >It's only the mental illness of people trying to project control onto an uncontrollable world.
                Its kinda funny with how rapidly conspiracy theories turn out to be true.
                Like, how is something a conspiracy theory if you have people at the WEF admitting that this is what they actually want?

                Would you agree that someone walking up to you, telling you they want to kill you and your family and then you saying "Thats not true, thats a conspiracy theory" is sign of a mental illness?
                Again, hypothetical question.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Maybe you should ask yourselves instead why it triggered you so.
                Because braindead retards like yourself get a vote that counts just as much as someone with even the room temperature IQ that you aspire to have someday.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                3rd post full of butthurt where you refuse to entertain a simple hypothetical.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Conspiracy theories often employ a throw everything at the wall strategy.
                You can't possibly deboonk every theory and some deboonkings will be mutually exclusive with other deboonkings.
                It's only the mental illness of people trying to project control onto an uncontrollable world.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think you're a fucking moron if you think Hawaiian wildfires or really any other natural disaster are staged. I love how contrarians think everyone else is sheep for not reflexively believing that everything is a conspiracy when they themselves are the ones blindly believing the opposite of what they're told

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It’s true. The US government turned on the wind machines to make 30mph winds, turned off the rain machines so there would be no moisture, and built a mountain to block clouds from reaching western maui. They also stole fire from the gods.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The geography of maui is actually pretty interesting and it leads to precisely this situation. Basically the entire central valley is a massive wind tunnel and gets very little rain. Then the southern portion of west maui up through lahaina is in the rain shadow of the volcano. But as you go north it very quickly gets cooler and wetter.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    APS is a bit like that if you think about it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Creating a shield with electromagnetic fields is actually pretty simple, and most militaries already use them. Basically, you take some positively charged particles (like protons) and cover them with electrons. The electrons will form a negatively charged cloud around the positive particle. You can attach many of these electron-covered protons together and form a continuous sheet of them. The sheet will be held together by electromagnetic forces between the electron clouds and nearby protons. Now, if you cover your vehicle in such a protective sheet, it can withstand pretty energetic impacts, as long as it's weaker than the electromagnetic forces holding the sheet together.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        for what purpose?
        i'm pretty sure project gateway proved to be of little use in real life.

        i love these little guys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well played, nerdbro. I chuckled.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It took me a minute, but very clever

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I keep staring at it, but I don't get it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It describes ordinary armor. Ordinary solid matter is held together by electromagnetic forces. When two bodies collide (like a bullet with an armor plate), it's the electromagnetic repulsion of their atoms' electron clouds that prevents them from passing through each other. That's why neutrons can penetrate solids, because they pass freely through the electron cloud, and only get stopped if they hit another nucleus by chance, which are very-very tiny compared to the electron cloud.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I only want forcefields if they work like Dune and bring back sword fighting

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kek, I watched this like almost two decades ago and still remember the sound of the shield stopping the missiles.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    by the time energy shields become feasible they would have already been rendered obsolete by lasers

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >force field
    depending on what kind of field and how much force, like 70 years ago, except the amount of force you can generate is immaterial so almost useless for creating kinetic effects
    >energy shields
    literally never. unless we're basically 100% wrong about basic aspects of physics, there is no pathway for something like picrel to exist. ever.
    the likelihood of us being sufficiently wrong about the physics is about the likelihood of finding out that 2+2 is actually 4.5.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >finding out that 2+2 is actually 4.5.
      IRL 2+2 = 3.(9) because lul entropy, but nobody accounts for that, because it would make mathematics literally unworkable.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I got two questions
    1) Is it possible to make a bullet explode just with microwaves
    2) How much energy would you need for it

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We have Time travel technology we have the cure to aids cancer and aging. We have energy weapons, and we have energy shields. We have the ability to do more than you could even imagine. AND the only reason I can say all of this is because you will believe me but nobody else will. They'll think I'm a pyscho talking on the internet and if you tell them what I told you, they'll think you're crazy. And you know something, if it exists but it doesn't impact our direct life then it doesn't even fucking matter. Look man you already know about the worlds most powerful weapons, the world ending nuclear fusion bombs. Everything else is just a small deal compared to those. If you ask anything specific you didn't hear it from me kid.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone ever thought about having some sort of electromagnetic shield to deflect radiation in space? Similar to how earth's own EM field worksd.

    Probably the closes we'll ever get to space ships with actual shields.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.sciencealert.com/there-is-a-human-made-barrier-surrounding-earth-and-we-can-detect-it

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't CIWS essentially going to fill that role in the future.With advanced enough computing you can counter most projectiles, at various ranges. Force field requires compact energy sources and some advancement in physics. CIWS requires further advancement of tech that is already advancing very fast.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    maybe sometime after we get defensive lasers working

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10 years ago

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