For the anon who posted the Smith & Wesson revolver with the scratched off serial

Hope you can return it to the store because ATF won't re-serial it

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick that, looks like anon has a nice drop gun or piece to add to his buried apocalypse cache

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >smooth out defaced area
    >engrave new random set of digits
    >no idea officers it was like that when I purchased it in a private cash transaction

    moron

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    whoops, someone stole it from my truck, but I found it in the bushes the next day with the serial defaced
    can I get a new one now?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >to my knowledge it has never left this state, mr. agent
    wow that was tough

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    frick ya mudda

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So? Who gives a shit?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Right? Just don't sell that one. Problem solved.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Learn how to cast steel parts.
    >Make a new part copied from the original.
    Now it is a totally legit revolver.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You'd need to know the original serial for it to be legit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No you wouldn't, you'd have made a new privately made firearm that has no serialization requirements.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-us-district-court-rules-ban-on-possession-of-gun-with-serial-numbers-removed-is-unconstitutional/

    > Tldr
    US District Court in West Virginia dropped the charge of defaced serial number because of Bruen. If OP is in this thread from last thread, if you get arrested, just put up this defense and you'll be good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >nonbinding district court ruling
      it's a nothingburger then

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter, there's no legal requirement for a firearm to have a serial number
      >inbr muh gun control act
      Serial Numbers were not very common before 1968, making Bruen oh-so-fricking-applicable. Not coincidentally, Bruen has already been used successfully to strike down the serial numbering provision of the 1968 GCA.

      (not OP) can you tldr what bruen has changed? and what constitutes a "serial number" according to the ATF?

      I get the basic logic of:
      >sale requires a serial
      >removal of serial implies a sale that violates a precondition of sale
      >therefore sale is illegal

      But aren't there reasons to serialize a firearm other than to prepare it for sale?

      An extremely contrived example: I make a fully functional replica firearm for a media production. For looks, it gets maker marks and serial. After the fact, I decide to remove the serial. Am I know in unlawful possession of a firearm that has had its serial number removed, altered, defaced, or obliterated?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tldr, Bruen essentially changed how the challenges to gun laws must be interpreted, which is if the law was a law in the creation of the 2nd amendment. Shit like assault weapons bans, the serial number thing, weed and owning guns, even domestic violence orders banning gun ownership are being challenged currently. Look into US v Rahimi.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what bruen has changed
        The USSC ruled in Bruen that firearms restrictions must be based on restrictions in common use at the time the 2nd amendment was written and ratified, and that restrictions beyond that are therefore unconstitutional. Serial numbers on non-military firearms in the US were not particularly common before the passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968, which was a fricking long time after the 2nd amendment was ratified, therefore it is an unconstitutional violation of the 2nd amendment to require them on firearms.
        >aren't there reasons to serialize a firearm
        Sure. For firearms that are subject to inventory controls or strict quality controls, like military-issued firearms, serial numbers are incredibly useful. But even in that particular space they are still a fairly recent thing, neither the springfield musket nor the british enfield were serialized, though some versions of the later trapdoor rifles as well as the british snider rifles had serial numbers.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter, there's no legal requirement for a firearm to have a serial number
    >inbr muh gun control act
    Serial Numbers were not very common before 1968, making Bruen oh-so-fricking-applicable. Not coincidentally, Bruen has already been used successfully to strike down the serial numbering provision of the 1968 GCA.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really wish people would stop writing letters to the ATF giving them an excuse to make up new shit and decree that it is now law. Yes I saw the date in OP's pic, but people still do it all the fricking time. Don't even write to frick with them. You might think you're being clever writing about dragon dildo suppressors or other goofy shit but tyrants are some of the most clever people on earth, it's how they don't just end up getting put to the sword for their frickery.

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