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For me, it's Zenk
>revolvers devolve further into a breach loader
When will it be displayed at Shot Show?
It is. LOL. Vaporware.
Finally some one to compete with the plastic blue training pistols!
It makes me want to cry.
Not like this, bros. Not a 3D printed plastic brick.
What a disappointment.
The guy said they're still developing the gun and should have a shootable model by Shot Show next year. He also answered the reloading question, with it having swappable cylinders and an ejector rod. It's not like they're the first company to have shown up at Shot Show with a 3D printed model.
I don't like how it breaks open, it looks rather lame and flimsy
This. Also all that wasted material under barrel.
Do not like.
It can't go any lower without the cylinder butting into your thumb and palm.
i was down until it opens... ew.
I still wonder how it feels to fire.
Imagine staking your family's well-being on your ability to sell an objectively retarded product.
If I was Mr Zenk, I would have had 5 heart attacks by now.
>an objectively retarded product
Blow it out your ass.
Much like black powder open tops, it will never be a magnum.
Is IS a magnum tho. .357 to be exact~
Nothing stopping break top from being magnums, we just stopped producing them before that point, which also means we stopped before modern steel and modern locks. If a topper or handi-rifle can survive .44, .444 marlin, .500 S&W and rifle rounds, .357 isn't that hard. The REX and current webleys already show that.
This is the same shit as people saying lever guns can't do rimless
With that cylinder position did they design it to be sealed, and does that mean it could actually be suppressed decently?
Revolvers have a niche for CCW where the slide of a semi could be impeded by clothing or bad grip while still being shootable out to pretty reasonable ranges, this design legit might be a little better for that type of thing than a traditional revolver. Have to see how heavy it is and how it carries, but its not entirely without merit. Also, I think its cute.
The cylinder is inside if that thing you see
You need a cylinder that envelops the forcing cone in order to be suppressed. As it is in this design, there is still a gap between the forcing cone and cylinder. The extra back pressure will get dumped directly into that cylinder shroud, so you better hope there's a safety vent or else you got a grenade in your hand.
nah its just going to piss gas between the clamshells. The only purpose of the shroud it to keep shaved jacket and gas cutting off of your wrist.
>You need a cylinder that envelops the forcing cone in order to be suppressed. As it is in this design, there is still a gap between the forcing cone and cylinder. The extra back pressure will get dumped directly into that cylinder shroud, so you better hope there's a safety vent or else you got a grenade in your hand.
There was a guy making aluminium side plates for .22 Rugers that covered the cylinder for use with a suppressor, but fuck if I can find it.
That's not going to do shit on a .357 mag. The report will still sound out from the cylinder gap.
>The report will still sound out from the cylinder gap.
Yes, it will pressurize the airspace between the frame and the cover plates until the projectile has cleared the muzzle, at which point, the combustion gasses with leave through the bore.
its still just a render. the real thing will probably look like shit
Now, I am all for innovation and trying out new stuff.
But the main drawback of revolvers right now is the slow reloading. And that looks like you can't even use a speedloader on it. It's got "encased magazine" so I guess the firing pin will remain in plave once you open it up, and you can only load 2-3 rounds max at any given time.
The main difficulty on designing a break-action/top-breaking revolvers like this (or like the webley) is that the hinge can't take the force/pressure that the magnum round generates. I guess they have tried to overcome that by placing the hinge to the very front of the gun? I don't know how long-lived solution that is, but at least they are trying out new stuff.
But so far, I'd prefer a speedloader-compatible revolver over a niche design.
Still... props for trying.
>But the main drawback of revolvers right now is the slow reloading
Consider it like a 6 shot derringer.
>by placing the hinge to the very front of the gun
The latches are the weak points of break actions.
>But the main drawback of revolvers right now is the slow reloading.
Unless you're planning to go on a mass shooting, scenarios where average Joes need to reload don't exist.
>The main difficulty on designing a break-action/top-breaking revolvers like this (or like the webley) is that the hinge can't take the force/pressure that the magnum round generates. I guess they have tried to overcome that by placing the hinge to the very front of the gun?
Fuck off retard. The design overcomes that by having the barrel and breech block part as a single solid unit like on any other revolver rather than being two separate units connected by a hinge.
You reply with extreme hostility and the exact same language every time anybody criticizes this gun in any thread. Are you actually the Armenian guy who designed it?
Chamber it in .44 with 6" barrel. Now we have qutie compact handgun with real stopping powhah.
How about they scrap this abomination and attempt to build a cosmetic Webley clone with modern internals?
>break top design
>have to rotate cylinder to reload
Dude it's obvious that they want you to buy extra cylinders and use them like magazines.
Inb4 flame cutting on the thin topstrap material.
1 revolver = 1 ZenkCoin
Why the fuck is everything designed by Apple now?
I get that it's just in renders right now but there are so many questions about this design.
>how is the trigger linked to the firing pin
>where even is the firing pin
>how does the cylinder rotate
>how do spent cases eject
>How will the cylinder rotate after the first shot fills the clamshell with crud?
IMO, the snub Chiappa Rhyno is still a better looking and more practical gun while still being innovative.
Do they have these in smaller calibers than 357 magnum?
just run .38 if you're worried about recoil
I have the 6 inch and holy shit what recoil.
38 feels like a damn 22, and even 357 is fuck all. Don't have to worry about getting a bad grip at all. Only thing that scares me is with the materials, and having a round explode the bottom out in to your finger. Look at that weird little groove right below the gap. I have to imagine it has something to do with directing gasses, but I couldn't find why they did that, particularly when it's one of the last sections you want to blow out in a catastrophe.
it's a gas vent cut to prevent flame cutting of the shitty aluminum frame from the cylinder gap
Ahhh. That there is the one big complaint. It's not even that light either so why did they have to make it so weak. If they could have just given it a strip of steel or something strong, and made sure it would blow up away from your hands the whole thing would be "perfect".
I'd only buy a Chiappa in stainless, but unfortunately, (4U), they don't make the longer variants with a steel frame and an aluminium barrel block for reduced weight.
Short ones are steel? Well balls. Not that Canadians can get handguns anymore, but they demand over 4 inch barrels here.
>Short ones are steel?
The "DS-X" variants are.
>still being innovative
It's just a knockoff of the Mateba.
Its designed by Emilio Ghisoni, the same guy who designed the Mateba. Hard to call it a knock-off.
I'm aware of it's history.
That doesn't mean it's not a cheapened form with reduced features.
I very much like the bottom firing arrangement, but I wouldn't call it innovative.
It'd be something if it was also a break action, relocating the firing stress from the latch to the hinge.
Do they still import these?
Yeah of course.
Your move Keltec
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