They absolutely did, Belgium absolutely wanted this war and they started it. Poor Germany had no other choice, oppression of german speakers cannot be allowed.
These guys are so retarded. If anything France lost the last war by having 1/3 of its territory destroyed. Germany just lost Alsace in return. How can they be Butthurt over that???
>(it also was nothing compare to what France paid them in 1870)
French reparations in 1971 were less than a quarter of France's gdp. Germany's reparations in 1921 were over three times its gdp (the figures demanded in 1919 were six times its gdp).
Relative to the national economic output, the reparations demanded from Germany were 48/>24 times higher than what Germany had demanded off France.
And 20% of the reparations went to Italy, which was an aggressor.
>Diane Kunz, summarizing the historiography on the subject, writes that historians have refuted the myth that reparations placed an intolerable burden on Germany.[170] Marks says a "substantial degree of scholarly consensus now suggests that paying ... was within Germany's financial capacity
Oh and they never paid it anyway. So the butthurt is stupid.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why bitch about France having to pay a negligible sum in comparison and lie about its value, then?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Maybe because France didn't invade German soil in 1870 nor did it cause long lasting devastation of millions of hectares, tens of thousands of factories and hundreds of thousands of houses in Germany? Frankfurt was a tribute, Versailles were reparations. It's not that hard.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They did invade german soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saarbrücken
The 1450 tons of gold (5 billion francs) were fair reparations for the unjust suffering of the german people that were forced into war by France’s imperialism.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>12 hours of battle >5bn francs
This must be the most expensive border crossing in recorded history
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They didn’t build a wall, and yet the French still paid for it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
As a comparison, the US gold reserve in 1900 was 602 tons of gold.
The US got most of its gold in WW1 by trading with the UK, France and Germany.
>this fucking meme again
They ended up paying a mere 1/3 of what was agreed upon and most of it was financed by the US.
Krautaboos crying about Versailles is the most bad fait shit imaginable, especially when you take into account the scale of destruction that they wrought upon France during those 4 years.
Pic should show British soldiers. In the eyes of the French, the war was a defensive one (stop the Germans invading their national territory and retaking what was rightfully theirs). That's why you had less fraternization between French and Germans compared to the Brits
Britoid here. The war should have broken out a few years later after Britain would have either joined the Central Powers or remained neutral.
>muh liberty
Russia was a backwards feudal shithole and France was a terminally revanchist power that believed it's border should rest on the Rhine. Germany meanwhile was a vibrant democracy in 1914 while AH was nowhere near as bad as Russia and already an experiment in European Union-tier confederation.
>muh balance of power, muh channel
Germany had abandoned her naval ambitions and Russia was a far greater threat to Britain which Germany itself was acting to counterbalance. That Russia dominated Eurasia and could easily stomped the remainder without American interference by mid-Century after a brutal civil war, horrific mismanagement and and repelling a scorched Earth invasion is testament to it.
>Weapons?
German arms were far superior to anything France had produced and even during the war there was a trade in German telescopics for entente rubber. Under Anglo-German blockade it would have fallen in short order, if not at Marne then by 1915.
The flower of European youth would have been saved, France would lose a few colonies and be humbled like 1870, Russia would be contained and likely collapse with the possibility of Anglo-German intervention. Even the Americans would profit with Japan lacking the confidence that victory against Germany gave it and likely avoiding several of the major causes of the Great Depression.
That’s cool and all cousin, except you leave out the part where the Kaiser, Von Tirpitz, Ludendorff, Von Jagow, Bethmann Hollwegg, the whole German government was planning for war with Britain after they finished off France and Russia. The naval arms race was only paused because the Germans had to focus spending on the army again to catch up with Russian and French military expenditures. So better to have French and Russian villages and towns annihilated than Britain because we were going to fight the Germans one way or the other. >tl;dr the Kaiser lied every time before about wanting peace, but this time he’s totally serious and honest.
The Kaiser was the original monke.
Ignoring the main cause of the western theatre of the war is British leaders seeing as threats the german industrialisation, their colonial and seatrading ambitions. And generaly, the millenia old policy of sawing conflict in Europe any time someone start becoming dominant there.
You can imagine the level it reached for the Brits to ally with the French of all people.
Also, it’s best to take with a grain of salt anything either published back then or inspired by it, as everything was muded by pure bullshit propaganda to shape the public opinions.
No, Britain was never going to ally with Germany, and was one of the main actors pushing very hard for WW1.
>I am off to waste my life for the fuhrer's war that is already lost, the fuhrer, who when the soviet hordes are in Berlin having destroyed everything of my country in their path, will blame me and the german people for having failed to fullfill his delusions
>March men, march to preserve the white race by declaring several wars of aggression on white countries and end up destroying our nation in a blatantly unwinnable war
There is no concept of whiteness in National Socialist ideology. For the Nazis a brown indian is superior to a slav üntermensch.
The whole concept of whiteness is more of a new world thing than an old world thing.
>FOR BELGIAN NEUTRALITY! CHAAAAAAARGE!!!! >picture is clearly French soldiers when it was Great Britain that declared war on Germany in response to the invasion of Belgium and France and Germany were already in a state of war at that point.
>defends Belgium >defends Ukraine >defends Korea >defends Bosnia and Kosovo >returns Hong kong after lease ends.
For a people that keeps being accused of perfidy and duplicity the British sure do seem to have a weird habit of honoring all their treaties and promises.
>Created Israel
No, they didn't. Balfour Declarations was even bigger useless piece of paper. They only honored the treaty after being forced by US and the whole Europe because nobody want to take back their israelites.
They created it by allowing millions of israelites to invade Palestine. Pretty sure bongs elites were Masons and thus wanted to help rebuild the 3rd temple.
Shouldn't have attacked a neutral country if you didn't want a fight, fritz
Belgium shouldn't have attacked the German radio station.
Shit for brains tier take, German strategy was to plough through Belgium regardless
>Belgium shouldn't have attacked the German radio station.
Wrong war dummy.
100%
they didn't
They absolutely did, Belgium absolutely wanted this war and they started it. Poor Germany had no other choice, oppression of german speakers cannot be allowed.
>100 years from now our grandchildren will have to put up with monkeboos who will parrot the same stupid shit from 1939 and 1914.
Ja, John Burger I am Fredricksburg Bundesland from. Nor should Poland, Germany have attacked.
what?
you're just supposed to do nothing when you're neighbours send radio waves across your border?
how much of a cuck are you?
What the fuck is a radio??
Quite seething today, Ivan.
>FOR THE DELUSIONS OF A DERANGED AUSTRAIN AND OUR BUTTHURT OVER LOSING THE LAST WAR
These guys are so retarded. If anything France lost the last war by having 1/3 of its territory destroyed. Germany just lost Alsace in return. How can they be Butthurt over that???
They had to pay up huge sums of money to France and the UK
Nobody could enforce it: in fact they never paid it.
(it also was nothing compare to what France paid them in 1870)
>(it also was nothing compare to what France paid them in 1870)
French reparations in 1971 were less than a quarter of France's gdp. Germany's reparations in 1921 were over three times its gdp (the figures demanded in 1919 were six times its gdp).
Relative to the national economic output, the reparations demanded from Germany were 48/>24 times higher than what Germany had demanded off France.
And 20% of the reparations went to Italy, which was an aggressor.
>Diane Kunz, summarizing the historiography on the subject, writes that historians have refuted the myth that reparations placed an intolerable burden on Germany.[170] Marks says a "substantial degree of scholarly consensus now suggests that paying ... was within Germany's financial capacity
Oh and they never paid it anyway. So the butthurt is stupid.
Why bitch about France having to pay a negligible sum in comparison and lie about its value, then?
Maybe because France didn't invade German soil in 1870 nor did it cause long lasting devastation of millions of hectares, tens of thousands of factories and hundreds of thousands of houses in Germany? Frankfurt was a tribute, Versailles were reparations. It's not that hard.
They did invade german soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saarbrücken
The 1450 tons of gold (5 billion francs) were fair reparations for the unjust suffering of the german people that were forced into war by France’s imperialism.
>12 hours of battle
>5bn francs
This must be the most expensive border crossing in recorded history
They didn’t build a wall, and yet the French still paid for it.
As a comparison, the US gold reserve in 1900 was 602 tons of gold.
The US got most of its gold in WW1 by trading with the UK, France and Germany.
>And 20% of the reparations went to Italy, which was an aggressor.
>Germany allies with them in the next war anyway
>Italy betrays them too
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Which is why
>omg le versai was so harsh
was always bullshit, if anything it was lenient given the severity of the war
>this fucking meme again
They ended up paying a mere 1/3 of what was agreed upon and most of it was financed by the US.
Krautaboos crying about Versailles is the most bad fait shit imaginable, especially when you take into account the scale of destruction that they wrought upon France during those 4 years.
FOR AUSTRIAN PRINCE!!
You act like dynastic wars are somehow uncommon in Europe.
The point is not that they are rare but that they are at least as if not more retarded than Britain's balance of power autism
these are german and the heir to the throne in Austria was called an archduke, illiterate
If you don't see the real meaning behind my pic and my statement, then you are the real illiterate here, buddy.
>midget wars
> FOR THE DEFENCE OF SMALL NATIONS!!!! NEVERMIND ABOUT OUR EMPIRE!!! STOP ASKING! THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAACK
Actually funny
Pic should show British soldiers. In the eyes of the French, the war was a defensive one (stop the Germans invading their national territory and retaking what was rightfully theirs). That's why you had less fraternization between French and Germans compared to the Brits
>Germoids eternal assmad that Britia. Cockblocked them from taking over all of mainland Europe
You love to see it.
are wehraboos or russians more assblasted over britain?
Yes
Britoid here. The war should have broken out a few years later after Britain would have either joined the Central Powers or remained neutral.
>muh liberty
Russia was a backwards feudal shithole and France was a terminally revanchist power that believed it's border should rest on the Rhine. Germany meanwhile was a vibrant democracy in 1914 while AH was nowhere near as bad as Russia and already an experiment in European Union-tier confederation.
>muh balance of power, muh channel
Germany had abandoned her naval ambitions and Russia was a far greater threat to Britain which Germany itself was acting to counterbalance. That Russia dominated Eurasia and could easily stomped the remainder without American interference by mid-Century after a brutal civil war, horrific mismanagement and and repelling a scorched Earth invasion is testament to it.
>Weapons?
German arms were far superior to anything France had produced and even during the war there was a trade in German telescopics for entente rubber. Under Anglo-German blockade it would have fallen in short order, if not at Marne then by 1915.
The flower of European youth would have been saved, France would lose a few colonies and be humbled like 1870, Russia would be contained and likely collapse with the possibility of Anglo-German intervention. Even the Americans would profit with Japan lacking the confidence that victory against Germany gave it and likely avoiding several of the major causes of the Great Depression.
That’s cool and all cousin, except you leave out the part where the Kaiser, Von Tirpitz, Ludendorff, Von Jagow, Bethmann Hollwegg, the whole German government was planning for war with Britain after they finished off France and Russia. The naval arms race was only paused because the Germans had to focus spending on the army again to catch up with Russian and French military expenditures. So better to have French and Russian villages and towns annihilated than Britain because we were going to fight the Germans one way or the other.
>tl;dr the Kaiser lied every time before about wanting peace, but this time he’s totally serious and honest.
The Kaiser was the original monke.
Source? That sounds utterly impossible.
This nigga thinks britain picks sides based on moral considerations and not preventing european hegemonies
>but but germany was a democracy and russia was a dictatorship
Lmao, how old are you?
>Germany had abandoned her naval ambitions
Kek
Ignoring the main cause of the western theatre of the war is British leaders seeing as threats the german industrialisation, their colonial and seatrading ambitions. And generaly, the millenia old policy of sawing conflict in Europe any time someone start becoming dominant there.
You can imagine the level it reached for the Brits to ally with the French of all people.
Also, it’s best to take with a grain of salt anything either published back then or inspired by it, as everything was muded by pure bullshit propaganda to shape the public opinions.
No, Britain was never going to ally with Germany, and was one of the main actors pushing very hard for WW1.
>I am off to waste my life for the fuhrer's war that is already lost, the fuhrer, who when the soviet hordes are in Berlin having destroyed everything of my country in their path, will blame me and the german people for having failed to fullfill his delusions
>March men, march to preserve the white race by declaring several wars of aggression on white countries and end up destroying our nation in a blatantly unwinnable war
There is no concept of whiteness in National Socialist ideology. For the Nazis a brown indian is superior to a slav üntermensch.
The whole concept of whiteness is more of a new world thing than an old world thing.
This.
Don't tell them about how the definition changes constantly or the thread will die.
>t. blue eyed white devil
Yes sir, sahib Hitler would have redeemed me a white blonde wife sir.
I know this pic is about the wrong war but it's still relevant.
>I AM SILLY
>I am calm
>I SAY SOMETHING UNREASONABLE
>I won the argument
Tell me what in that pic is inaccurate?
He's just butthurt let him be
Third Reich having Portugal and Switzerland.
I'll agree on Portugal, but lamo if you think they didn't have the gold grubbing Swiss.
When did Hitler lashed out and conquered Switzerland,Italy,Spain and Portugal?What HOI4 gameplay is this?
He's just butthurt let him be
FOR PUTIN'S 5TH MEGA YACHT
Everyone was autistic in wwi.
Imagine europe/the world without the wars. Would have been a utopia
>FOR BELGIAN NEUTRALITY! CHAAAAAAARGE!!!!
>picture is clearly French soldiers when it was Great Britain that declared war on Germany in response to the invasion of Belgium and France and Germany were already in a state of war at that point.
Wrong army. It was the British who intervened to protect Belgian neutrality.
why charge when you have a rifle. Just shoot them from there.
t.militarystrategist
FOR THE CORPORATIONS AND THE BETTERMENT OF OUR OVERLORDS ATTAAAAAAAAACK ! ! !
LONG LIVE HIS MAJESTY THE EMPEROR!!!
>defends Belgium
>defends Ukraine
>defends Korea
>defends Bosnia and Kosovo
>returns Hong kong after lease ends.
For a people that keeps being accused of perfidy and duplicity the British sure do seem to have a weird habit of honoring all their treaties and promises.
if only we pre-emptively honoured our promise with Poland a few months earlier
Yet:
>Created Israel
>Drew squares in Africa and the Middle East and went "good enough"
I'd say they come out net neutral.
Brown people don't have rights.
Cheeky darkie detected
>Created Israel
No, they didn't. Balfour Declarations was even bigger useless piece of paper. They only honored the treaty after being forced by US and the whole Europe because nobody want to take back their israelites.
They created it by allowing millions of israelites to invade Palestine. Pretty sure bongs elites were Masons and thus wanted to help rebuild the 3rd temple.
>FOR israeliteS!!
Yes, israeliteesses
ooh subvert me mommy
>STAY VIGILANT COMRADE AND APPROACH THE INDEPENDENCE OF UKRAINE WITH EVERY SHOT
This really isn't a related question, but why are so many Soviet era images in black and white when the Western Equivalent was often a color photo?
Color pictures are harder to censore with just pencils and scissors.
WTF BHAWHAHAHAHA
>FORWARD! FOR GLEIWITZ RADIO TOWER!
>For my general's Konto 5 bribes and his estate in Poland!
FOR TRANS RIGHTS IN BOTSWANA!! OOOOOORAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
FOR THE PROPHETS' SCHEMES AND OUR OWN CULTURAL ENSLAVEMENT!
WORT WORT WO-ACK!
Wait, since when do Palestinians come from sub-Saharan Africa?
They're both volunteers
He's from mali, she's from new york
Otherwise it'd just be two browns hugging
FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF TOWN PLANNING IN BRITANNIA! CHAAAAAAARGE!!!!
>FOR THE REDBRICK HOME, THE BOURGEOISIE AND GUITAR LESSONS FOR THE WIFE!!!
>AANVALLEN !!!!
whats the guitar thing about?
It's a lyric from a king crimson song
>For pajeet tea and giving 90% of the continent to natives/Spain/France, strike down your rebellious brothers and cousins! CHHAAAR- ACK!!
Who /smith-dorrien/ here?
>For the a Prussian prince's right to become Spanish king.
>REMEMBER THE USS MADDOX!
>FOR A GEORGIAN DICTATOR THAT WILL SEND MY FAMILY TO THE GULAG! URAAAAAA!