flashlight consumerism

What are the best flashlights?
Pistol - surefire x300 B Turbo?
Rifle - Arisaka 600 with Malkoff E2HTv2?
Hand held - Surefire Stiletto Pro?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud Defensive whatever its called whenever it comes out
    Cloud Defensive rein legacy
    Cloud Defensive MCH 2.0

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Begone Clown Defensive shill.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pistol
      Full size: X300 Ultra
      Compact: TLR7A
      >rifle
      Full size: Arisaka 18650 with Malkoff E2XTL head
      Compact: Arisaka 300 with Malkoff E1HTv2
      >handheld
      Surefire G2X LE

      Based Cloud shill.

      https://i.imgur.com/wqBZY8e.jpeg

      I think that modern trend of having a RIDICULOUS amount of lumens on basic flashlights is idiotic.
      Pic related is a decent reference light for reading maps and doing basic stuff, and it has 8 (EIGHT) lumens.

      Having something like 500+ lumens on a flashlight is unnecessary. You do not need a anti-aerial searchlight and no, you do not need to blind someone by burning their retinas.
      I think they are just pumping up the lumen number because dumb people think that more numbers = better flashlight. There is a point where having ungodly amount of lumens becomes counterproductive and just eats your batteries in a couple of hours.

      I would rather have 50 lumen light with 10 hour battery life than 1000 lumen light with 50 minutes lifetime.

      >voluntarily using that POS
      ishygddt
      500 lumens is not that bright.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >voluntarily using that POS
        I am not using it. I set it as an example that 8 lumens is enough for basic functionality. Sure, we have better flashlights now so there really is no reason to use that old thing.

        And like I said, I rather take 100 lumens with a battery life that will last me throughout the night than 500 lumens with only 3 hours battery life.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pistol - Sub compact - tlra Full size - 300turbo a/b (User pref)
    Rifle - M600DF 600 with a Weltool LH3 V3.0 Head
    Handheld - Weltool W2 (But ive only had this for about 2 weeks, so not 100% sold on it yet)

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the dollar store led flashlight that takes 3 AAA batteries and does everything you want

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I bought some cheap chink aluminum ones , they take 1xaaa or 2xaaa and they work fine. I've bought some slightly pricier ones and it's just diminishing returns all the way down.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cheap non-tryhard thing actually best!

      t. zero experience anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        post-purchase rationalization

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Try using your dollar store light to hit targets at 100yds

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you shooting at the middle of the night?
            What are you shooting at?

            In which situation you need to shoot at something 100m away in the middle of the night, and you have to do it with your flashlight and not... you know, industrial floodlights?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >uhhh why are you doooing all that? Are you larrrrpiing?

              Im having fun doing SF stuff without having to enlist or get shot at

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but I’ve seen weapon lights used in a law enforcement context at around that distance.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that crazy shootout between those two orphan kids and the cops had some long-ish distance shooting. Man i totally forgot about that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But are you law enforcement? Do you need to shoot at someone in the night 100m away?

                If you get into a firefight at 100m distance, the correct thing to do is the just withdraw. Get the hell out of dodge.
                Yeah, it's fun to larp stuff, but "I am going to need a 3000 lumen flashlight for those 100m distance midnight firefights" is pretty big stretch of imagination for possible scenarios.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It’s also a great way to spend the rest of your life in federal prison.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >But are you law enforcement?
                Yes

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OB-YXVtCqcA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And I’m sold on a x300 turbo.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm more biased towards Arisaka 18650 with Malkoff E2XTL head. Can still use 2x CR123s, just half the runtime approx. The Modlite OKW head is also really nice on this. I use this on both my shotgun and my rifle.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    look guys, I'm just not spending 300 dollars on a flashlight. I know, I know, I'm poor and a gay. I'm just not going to do it is all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pistol
      I will be buying an x300b turbo soon, I've had two streamlight TLR's, but have broken the battery/switch lid hinge on both. Not worth buying another.
      >rifle
      I've been running a 1st gen m952v since I picked it up in 2013. Not sure how it stacks up to the updated vampire heads. I'd suggest a malkoff lamp in a surefire/arisaka body. Very good, well worth the money if you don't need white/IR capability.
      >handheld
      What use case? Duty? General EDC? Tons of options. I rotate between an HDS systems clicky 200 high CRI, a zebralight h600f, and a few different convoy S2/s2+'s.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pistol - tlr1 hl, cannot stand x300s at all, dog shit tier light
    rifle - z bolt head / valhalla tactical head + m600 body of your choosing (like a z bolt body) + cap of your choosing (either ds01, surefire clicky or z bolt clicky)
    hand held - whatever

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think that modern trend of having a RIDICULOUS amount of lumens on basic flashlights is idiotic.
    Pic related is a decent reference light for reading maps and doing basic stuff, and it has 8 (EIGHT) lumens.

    Having something like 500+ lumens on a flashlight is unnecessary. You do not need a anti-aerial searchlight and no, you do not need to blind someone by burning their retinas.
    I think they are just pumping up the lumen number because dumb people think that more numbers = better flashlight. There is a point where having ungodly amount of lumens becomes counterproductive and just eats your batteries in a couple of hours.

    I would rather have 50 lumen light with 10 hour battery life than 1000 lumen light with 50 minutes lifetime.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i think that purposefully getting a dim flashlight is idiotic
      modern led is cheaper, brighter, and lasts longer in both battery life and overall bulb life
      you can get an led reproduction of that style of flashlight much cheaper than the incandescent version

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh yeah, I am not saying that incandescent light bulbs are good. I am firmly in the LED camp. They are energy efficient and reliable.

        I am saying that multi-thousand-lumen lights are unnecessary. Even 500 is blindingly bright in closed spaces. What is the situation where you might need the most lumens? It's either trying to find a missing person in the dark woods, or being that lost person in the woods trying to signal to other people "I AM HERE!"

        For that, 200-300 is more than enough (remember, military used to navigate in the jungles on 'nam with that periscope flash lights's 8 lumens) and in that situation you would want to maximize your battery life rather than the amount of lumens you can pump out.

        LED's are great exactly because they are energy efficient and can operate on low voltage for a long time. Enough for you to navigate in the dark without being eye-burningly bright.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I would rather have 50 lumen light with 10 hour battery life than 1000 lumen light with 50 minutes lifetime.
      homie any new flashlight that isn't utter shit will have a ~50 lumen 24 hour setting and a ~1000 lumen 2 hour setting. You don't have to choose.

      I literally have the world's largest vintage police flashlight collection and I still realize old D cell flashlights are a terrible idea today.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some of them are certainly silly and driven by the simple truth of marketing, bigger number = better. No disagreement there, but I do want to offer a different perspective.

      The neat thing with high lumens is it lets you have broader beams, which are much more usable in daily life, without completely giving up on usable range. Thus letting one flashlight do it "all" (within reason). Double the width of the hotspot, and you need 4x the lumens to fill it with the same intensity.
      I like the Zebralight "floody" (not "flood") headlamps, they use an orange-peel reflector and a diffusing lens to make a very usable compromise between your typical flashlight beam and a bare LED.
      But even at max (~1000 lumens on my 10-year-old model), it reaches just 50 yards or so. And I have no complaints at that, it's a pretty good range for a light you carry in your pocket all day, and can use (in lower modes) for up-close tasks like working under a vehicle -- but I want to point out that it's a far cry from an "anti-aerial searchlight", and IMO it isn't overkill.
      Your 2-300 lumens, with this broad a beam, isn't really enough for outdoor use, and the same tight beam that makes 2-300 lumens okay for outdoors, makes those flashlights annoying to use at short range, no matter what low modes they have. Either you have the spill bright enough to see what you're doing, and the spot is obnoxiously bright, or else you turn it down, and have to point the 2" spot exactly where you're working.

      So IMO a broad beam with high max output, and lots of efficient low modes, makes for the best all-rounder -- after all, you only pay for the 1000+ max when you're actually using it, and the rest of the time, you're actually benefiting in runtime, because the big LEDs that can do 1000+ are actually more efficient at 50 lumens.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it’s another poorgay thinks worse things are better thread

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get a LEP (Laser Excited Phosphore) Flashlight.

    I figured the next time civility shuts down and the groids pop off, I'll get one of those high-powered, unregulated, Chink Blue Lasers and just blind anyone starting shit.

    Is there an IR Filter I could get for a high-powered laser? So I can paint TayTays face and have him Helen Keller without them knowing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously you don't know how lasers work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Get a LEP (Laser Excited Phosphore) Flashlight.
      What if I want to be able to see what’s actually in front of me and not just a 3 inch circle 200 yards away?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Get a diffuser. Simple as. Easier to turn a spot lamp into a flooder than the other way around.

        Surefire is junk.
        >more expensive means more quality
        Americans need to unlearn this.

        Sure is certainly dated, but they make good products within their intended use cases. Machining and r&d (that your competitors can clone and reverse engineer for much cheaper) are expensive, and they've made some very small run/niche products for gov't contracts. Would not be my top 10 recommended for normie flashlight needs tbf.

        https://i.imgur.com/wqBZY8e.jpeg

        I think that modern trend of having a RIDICULOUS amount of lumens on basic flashlights is idiotic.
        Pic related is a decent reference light for reading maps and doing basic stuff, and it has 8 (EIGHT) lumens.

        Having something like 500+ lumens on a flashlight is unnecessary. You do not need a anti-aerial searchlight and no, you do not need to blind someone by burning their retinas.
        I think they are just pumping up the lumen number because dumb people think that more numbers = better flashlight. There is a point where having ungodly amount of lumens becomes counterproductive and just eats your batteries in a couple of hours.

        I would rather have 50 lumen light with 10 hour battery life than 1000 lumen light with 50 minutes lifetime.

        Cool thing about modern lights is you can literally have the best of both worlds. High outputs for short durations, and low outouts for long runtimes, and everything in between. Literally no reason outside of gayass packing lights to carry a pound and a half of crap light which can literally be fully replaced with a 1/2oz photon coincell light.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          *packing LISTS

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Got a nitecore tini2. 500 lumen boost. 1 to 200 selectable. Perfect key chain light. Actually used it a fair bit. Got a few of those key chain olights of various types but I think the nitecore is more versatile.

    Sure-fire hand-held lights seem like they are about 10 years behind tbh. I see fenix get mentioned but never used em. Seriously that stiletto may have been well specd 8 years ago lol

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Surefire is junk.
    >more expensive means more quality
    Americans need to unlearn this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What problems have you had?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but mine started dimming after being on for two seconds

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thrunite has been good for me.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese lights give you the best bang for your buck. Same as optics.
    >pistol
    Holosun PID HC
    >rifle
    Streamlight HL-X Pro
    >hand held
    Emisar D4V2

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What’s a good one to edc that has decent lumens for blinding Tyrone but is flat/small enough that it doesn’t frick with me all day? I got an olight and even though it’s not as annoying as a big round one it’s still pretty bulky.

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