First Corporate War

What do you think an open, hot war between two megacorporations would look like?

Who do you think the first one is gonna be between?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coke vs Pepsi

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All pepsi customers will have to anwser to the coca-cola company.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Great fucking movie

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw you're not in the timeline where Coke kept their navy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad pepsi was the one with a navy dumbass

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know of the secret coke armada.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad pepsi was the one with a navy dumbass

        Thanks for telling me about this story
        >in 1989, Pepsi accepted 17 Soviet submarines, a frigate, a cruiser and a destroyer as the equivalent to a cash payment from the Soviet Union
        >before they sent the ships off to Norway to be scrapped, PepsiCo was briefly the world's sixth most powerful navy
        >in exchange for the ships, the Soviets received $3 billion worth of Pepsi soda, Stoli and Cristall vodka, and Pizza Hut franchises

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw your positions are being overrun but your platoon hasn't saved up enough points for CAS

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        forgot pic

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude actually sued about it pepsi, right?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      companies are smart they have cartel laws they both have decided to only sell on certain areas and just destroy anyone that comes up and tries to sell on there areas why don't countries tdo the same?

      have two sides anyone acts up they quash them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pepsi navy will get revived

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      One company owns the majority shares in both Coke and Pepsi.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Left Twix vs. Right Twix

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right twix tastes better

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No more brother wars

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spoken like a dirty leftie.

        RIGHT TWIX MASTER RACE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        right twix is the white man's twix

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >right twix
          >white
          lol, lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            watch yo tone 'groid

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >posts both left and right Twix
              What did this traitor mean by this?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                im beyond your mortal mind

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arasaka already lost one soldier in ukraine
    no confirmation was he killed by mil-tec or someone else

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      'Saka v Militech is the Fourth Corporate War.

      EBM v Orbital Air was the first one.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        we're living in an alternative timeline, just saying

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Holy shit lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >willingly getting megacorp tattoo
            cucked mindset

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Not getting an ironic megacorp tattoo

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.wsj.com/articles/nice-tattoo-i-didnt-know-you-worked-at-walmart-1520005199

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          militech chads keep on winning

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          poor dude probably didn't even get to play 1.6

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is there an improvement in 1.6? I stopped playing a long ass time ago.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Performance is radically better. Beyond that, not much has changed.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I hope they add some new content soon. I replayed it once and the replay value is minimal since I did a lot of the side quests the first time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sadly, the only two big updates is patch 1.7 that’ll overhaul NCPD system and Maxtac. The DLC should be sizable, but during one of their investor meetings, they mentioned that DLC was it.
                They’re probably focusing on Witcher 4 and Cyberpunk Orion (sequel) will be on unreal engine.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I played it on PC when it first released. Got back to start another character after the Edgerunner show. Tons of bugs patched out. Weird glitches during some scripted cutscenes also fixed up. But the core game is still the same and there’s still some bugs here or there.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But the core game is still the same
                So a boring and pretty shallow open world action adventure game with some RPG window dressing?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like all the others, yes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No fucking way

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gonk Vatnik thought he was hot shit just because he got chromed by a shitty organiskaya ripperdoc with faulty ARASAKA tech and ended up getting himself flatlined real quick. Should've stayed home posting with the reality junkies on /CHUG/ and watching his Anime BDs. He had a chance to delta, but little did he know he would be featured in the weekly Ukraine XBD releases.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's preem meme shit choombata

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          quite literally a fucking GONK

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he never got to watch edgerunners

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Walmart vs Amazon.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    USA vs Iraq

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pepsi navy vs Coke

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It will unironically be something along the lines of Nestle vs Exxon.

    In terms of sheer ruthlessness, inhuman levels of lack-of-morals nothing can beat companies like Nestle or Exxon. They will (and did) destroy nations over a small profit margin increase

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Corporations have literally created and destroyed countries just to increase profit margins.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        some examples?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think one of the best ones is the Banana Wars with United Fruit Company (now Chiquita) & Standard Fruit Company. Literally created the term banana republic.
          I don't know if it counts fully because American troops were sent but still a crazy thing to learn about.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dole literally overthrew the Hawaiian monarchy because they wanted to sell pineapples. The East India Trading company literally controlled India for awhile

            Okay but
            >no new countries created
            >those countries still exist

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              new governments did, also
              >Ukraine

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dole literally overthrew the Hawaiian monarchy because they wanted to sell pineapples. The East India Trading company literally controlled India for awhile

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Dutch East India Company conquered and owned what is today several countries. They didn’t break up until after WW2.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oil companies vs Iraq.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Foreign countries. Internally, Mega-Corps and Government are always united.

        Monopolies and giant lumbering companies do not persist without government assistance. Even the East India TC was being kept afloat via the government.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My money's on Nestlé. They have entire complexes of frightening industrial machines designed solely to make sure there are enough fucking cookies and crackers for everyone

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder nestle tried to patent flax seeds

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My money's on Nestlé. They have entire complexes of frightening industrial machines designed solely to make sure there are enough fucking cookies and crackers for everyone

      Corporations have literally created and destroyed countries just to increase profit margins.

      Reminder nestle tried to patent flax seeds

      I would be Nestle's top guy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >both black mystery meat mutts
        accurate for the high-tech dystopian nightmare that will be the future

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Megacorps are a retarded idea.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >idea
      Someone post the chart

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro, pretty much the entire world right now is owned by like two dozen major corporations.
      Megacorps already exist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        wrong
        through circular ownership structures and cross-infiltration of corporate boards, most companies are owned or managed (typically both, as one begets the other) by a single conglomerate entity of financial institutions with multiple fronts (such as Blackrock) that has no official "name" per se.
        there are not megacorps. there is ONE Megacorp

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Monsanto vs Amazon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Monsanto was bought by Bayer years ago.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Samsung vs Huawei over stealing IP.

    Both backed by goverments, both from miltaristic societies willing to die for honor.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Samsung vs Huawei over stealing IP.
      This sounds plausible.

      At this point in the timeline, they have to be megacorps that have government backing/influence.

      Samsung and Huawei are two that definitely count. Sony could too.

      In America, the problem is that there are few companies that really dominate politics, they mostly balance each other.
      Even Amazon could be fucked over by an executive order if Biden really wanted to, Haliburton is another huge one and it's involved with some of the same things as Amazon so its a contender but it doesn't own the government either.

      Google, Twitter, Facebook, Amazon all kind of oppose each other on most things (except say, net neutrality).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even in cyberpunk 2020, when the corps try to fuck with the government they get stomped

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >willing to die for honor.
      SK isn't known for being big on honor and China sees it as a weakness.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure the East Empire Company fired shots at some Dutch or French companies back in the day, so it already happened.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, the East India company led the attack on the Dutch companies in Indonesia when the bongs took their colonies when the Dutch fell to Napoleon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, the East India company led the attack on the Dutch companies in Indonesia when the bongs took their colonies when the Dutch fell to Napoleon

      Even earlier, the Indian theatre of the seven years war was fought between the french and the British east India company.
      Before that, the "groot desyn" (great design) was a plan proposed by a few dutch entrepreneurs to kneecap the Iberian economy during the 80yw by using the west indies company to take over Portuguese sugar colonies in north Brazil. It worked for a few years but in the end the Portuguese managed to retake their colonies.

      In the 19th century you have shit like the opium wars, the 20 the has the banana wars and american "peacekeeping". These arent really company on company violence but still companies played a major role.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will fight and die for the megacorp that gives us nightcity e-boi gf's

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I haven’t seen the anime yet what’s it like?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I haven’t seen the anime yet what’s it like?
        breddy gud
        I think it's ok if you haven't played but it definitely hits different if you have, practically every scene is in an in-game location that I recognised.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/WKh7fq1.jpg

          It's good, give it a watch.

          Its okay, which in a world of absolutely fucking laughably dogshit cyberpunk media representation for the last 30 years means its mindblowing
          I won't rave about it but if you're starved for the medium give it a watch

          I see thank you for replying 🙂

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's good, give it a watch.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The writing has the subtly of a wet fart in a library.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't have to be subtle to be good. The 6th episode is probably the strongest individual episode I've watched this year.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you don't beat Anime fags over the head they won't understand anything anyway. SEE: Berserk.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Studio Trigger and Cyberpunk
            >Subtle
            What were you expecting, Angel's Egg?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cyberpunk
            >a subtle genre
            moron, cyberpunk is only subtle in that it hides genuine moral and philosophical questions in a long expletive filled and violent rage against the system, the influence of corporations on daily life, the inhumanity of man to other man, and the slow death of the planet to feed the greed of the few at the cost of the many. Punk isn’t subtle, it’s in your fucking face and screaming and shocking you.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I wouldnt put it quite that way, but yeah.
              Action and feelz punching your senses interwoven with subtle stuff regarding morals, philosophy, and life, painted across a backdrop of depravity and decay even as the future progressed, leaving you with questions and a mix of emotions at the end.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its okay, which in a world of absolutely fucking laughably dogshit cyberpunk media representation for the last 30 years means its mindblowing
        I won't rave about it but if you're starved for the medium give it a watch

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the Tanuki chick is still the best waifu from Studio trigger because I am not a furry.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like her better to but her show was shit

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's more likely that there would be a hot war between governments and corps than between corps

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    What gun do you bring to fight in the 2nd Corporation war against Disney?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      AmazonBasics 3D printed AR-15 + 2 day resupply with Prime Conscript

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they would shove a shitty 3d printed gun into your hands (that you have to work of but still have to give back when your discharged) after turning you into an indentured slave when you cant afford to buy approved weapons and gear.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it's in space then like Tachyon the Fringe video game.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Megacorps independent from the Government simply do not exist, the major gloabal corporations have always been just another arm of the government used for foreign policy, East india company, British Petroleum, GAZPROM, companies from the US MIC.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Megacorps independent from the Government simply do not exist
      Amazon is basically independent of government.

      They still have to basically obey the law and they can only buy laws the way other companies do but they're not integrated into government the way that the MIC is.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesnt know about the military secured AWS farms in Virginia

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This bro forgot about standard fruit company

      If it's in space then like Tachyon the Fringe video game.

      I love that game, thank you for remembering it. I mained a mako in the multiplayer just for fun. Think it was with a mod? I remember folk having shit like star patrol enforcers through mods and shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I love that game, thank you for remembering it. I mained a mako in the multiplayer just for fun. Think it was with a mod? I remember folk having shit like star patrol enforcers through mods and shit.
        Never played mp or mods. Did you ever use cheat to hear Bruce Campbell shitting on you for it? Or some secrets, like if you blow up one buoy two powerful capital ships spawn in one area.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    shitlo announces La Contract Social and total nationalization of American car factories so mexico can continue having industry. This is because amlo is converting mexico's economy to bunker oil, because those are the only refineries the state ATM/oil company can afford, and this is difficult for american companies upgrading to electricity. President Kamala Harris responds by sending three Marine Expeditionary Forces to Monterrey, where they all die from HIV and drunk driving. In it's place PMCs are hired to reestablish American control, and eventually it's a four way fight between the AFL-CIO, Blackwater, Amazon (through subsidiary Amazon International Defense Services), the Klu Klux Klan and the Texas Rangers. Eventually the Mexicans win, everyone speaks spanish, and everything returns to the status quo antebellum but all Mexican police officers are killed and replaced with corporate seminaries. Also, by this point Mexico's army is busy with a separate war in Tijuana over recently legalized fentanyl, so cartels are now just pharmaceutical companies with their own private armies. Most Americans begin accepting this as normal except bleeding heart limo liberals who pay for their own "public" police force that responds to civil courts and not the corporate tribunal.

    This is already happening with litiomex and his attempts to build el tren because narcos, indios and leftists keep getting in the way. Because the military is useless, he just pays Americans to remove bad people into concentration camps for him. The military tolerates it because he tolerates their dirty war on mexican journalists, and the former lithium mine owners took their money to USA mines like shaker pass (which is also blacklisted in the corporate media, and extensively uses private security to keep wagon burners from the adjacent reservation out).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Most Americans begin accepting this as normal except bleeding heart limo liberals who pay for their own "public" police force that responds to civil courts and not the corporate tribunal.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did...did we just see Dredd become a liberal?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Guardian urged the British Govt to annexe a British Overseas Territory

          Liberals are bog-standard fascists, but for their ideals, not yours

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      meds

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Great post

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I predict a very plausible major corporate war is going to basically be an African proxy war over cobalt mines, that's the big thing right now, blood batteries are gonna be an absolute fundamental industry moving forward and in places like the Congo stealth funding private militias is very easy to get away with.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Technically there is a small semblance of a proxy conflict via corp interest in Uganda right now. However its more about local influence than giving things. Japanese and Euro companies are competing with the Chinese ones in which the Chinese have significant influence and power in that region of Africa.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cobalt is not essential for batteries.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it is with EV car batteries.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    An extremely boring and tedious lawsuit fought in a court, with obscene amount of appeals and delays.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is retarded, no corporation has any hard power whatsoever. Even so called private military corporations are so regulated by our government you can't really separate them from the state apparatus. The truth is no corporation has the means or will to fight each other in any way outside of finance. The thing that makes the whole Corporate War trope in cyberpunk possible in the first place is a massive break down in government institutions that create a power vacuum that corporations then fill. I hate to burst your bubble OP, but we are nowhere near a world where this is possible outside of a 3rd world country.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's very possible for them to fight a proxy war via rival militas in third-world nations like

      https://i.imgur.com/2iAfyLf.jpg

      I predict a very plausible major corporate war is going to basically be an African proxy war over cobalt mines, that's the big thing right now, blood batteries are gonna be an absolute fundamental industry moving forward and in places like the Congo stealth funding private militias is very easy to get away with.

      says.

      An extremely boring and tedious lawsuit fought in a court, with obscene amount of appeals and delays.

      >An extremely boring and tedious lawsuit fought in a court, with obscene amount of appeals and delays.
      Preventing this is literally why Delaware is so popular to register a company in. Their court of chancery is efficient, not especially expensive to litigate in and generally excellent. None of this judge-shopping, random lunatics elected to the bench, purchased benches or judicial activism of any flavor. It's considered a very consistent jurisdiction and cases are resolved in a fraction of what other jurisdictions take.

      It's where Twitter v Musk is being heard and there's a reason why a few months ago Musk is talking shit and today he's saying "ok, I'll do what the contract says". The court's have already heard shit on the case and if it goes to trial, it will be over by the end of the year.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but that's not corporate hard power. Militaries are simply incompatible with corporate profit structures. Even PMCs will at most be motorized infantry with light mechanized/air support elements.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          For most of history large mercenary armies were common. Expect them to form again as mercenaries become more common. Image it like the mercenary armies of renaissance Italy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't just hand everyone a musket and pay them in pillage anymore. A military is a massive financial drain and actually using it means needing to replace parts of it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you cant just hand everyone an AR* and pay them in pillage anymore
              why not? if the goal is just to destroy the other company then why not guarantee looting and servitude rights to the merc groups working for you? the idea of looting a pharma company could bring in alot of investors to a mercenary company. and if its just individual assets your trying to destroy then just contract out to some spooky dudes for a mission. im sure theres an argument against the examples i stated but this isn't really an area that's been explored all that well due to nation states having hogged the stage in terms of warfare almost non-stop throughout history. there's not many financial instruments in existence to maximize profits off of corporate wars because its never been an option. that doesn't mean they cant make them.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I would clean out Mogadishu in 3 days if I were given the greenlight to do this.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. If they need to topple some 3rd world govt they'll get a 1st world military to do it or hire a PMC if that's viable, although it'd be fronted by some populist figure, like Pinochet but backed by a corporation instead of the US.

          Private wars used to be very common, big corporations have budgets bigger than most nations so its hardly incontinence they invest into military

          Yes when spears and swords were the dominant weapons. Today's military requires too much tooth to tail and standardization. Also mercenaries of old were typically hired by govts, not acting for their own private interests beyond getting hired.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh standardisation
            How do you think they operate
            >only hired by governments
            Just not fucking true, plenty of lords/nobles/rich cunts hired mercs for private war

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >How do you think they operate
              How do (You) think they operate? Corporations don't standardize like the military. The military standardizes to have the exact same equipment avalible for decades and they pay for it. Corporations are about having as much flexibility as possible so you can have maximum chose in suppliers.

              ie a corporation can have Dell servers and switches at one location and HP at another and it makes no difference. You can't do that with artillery or aircraft across an organization.
              >Just not fucking true, plenty of lords/nobles/rich cunts hired mercs for private war
              moron they were the government of their day

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Something else to consider is that only a handful of countries can even afford the R&D and manufacture of military equipment beyond small arms. You're pretty much never going to see corporations with better militaries than developed nations except maybe in regards to highly specialized units like security, but not open conflict stuff like artillery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no corporation has any hard power
      East India Company would like to have a word with you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They were backed by the government. That's actually one of the major reasons the Revolution happened.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And the Ukrainian military (convenient hot topic) is back, regulated and, to an extend, controlled by the USA. They still very much hold "hard" power.
          EIC had a free hand to pursue their own goals by either economic, political or military (!) means. While the government had strong influence over it, the EIC itself had no small amount of influence over the government as well and confronted it more than once over issues that were important to it.

          The power of government is, in large part, a matter of its scale. It's several magnitudes larger than anything that contained within so it hold control over its realm. But when a corporation goes international, it has the potential to bloat beyond the power limit enforced by a single state and end up, in a limited scope, matching its power.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And the Ukrainian military (convenient hot topic) is back, regulated and, to an extend, controlled by the USA. They still very much hold "hard" power.
            No one really holds hard military power today *except* the United States. It is the single meaningful military on the planet and all other military operations must be done by it's leave.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They were backed by the government
          They weren't nationalized until 1857

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not being nationalized means you're not in bed with the government
            LOL

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no corporation has any hard power whatsoever. Even so called private military corporations are so regulated by our government you can't really separate them from the state apparatus.
      bro, what are you talking about?
      Did you skip history in your ghetto high school? Of course both the dutch and english east india companies had a lot of intersection with their native governments, but they were still mega corporations of their time, given a shitload of power by their government.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The VOC is especially interesting because, at their peak, were more powerful than the Dutch. If they somehow became independent around those times, it could have been a great power on their own.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          hence that sort of thing not really being tolerated much after mercantilism
          states are rightfully wary of corporations even approaching sovereignty in real terms

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >outside of a 3rd world country
      Thank God there's loads of them then.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hot war
    >3M vs CCPs conglomeration or various china corps
    >3M stops sending safety walk and rubber gloves
    >Chinamen die in droves slipping on wet soapy floors due to the janitor cleaning the place in their newly converted war factories and into a pile of exposed live wires
    >They would have lived but they needed to brace themselves and move a wire or 2 to get out but they didn't have rubber gloves for insulation
    Flawless 3M victory

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know you're just shit-posting but half of Chinese industry pivoted to PPE during the pandemic's early days.
      Basically everyone who worked with latex and PVC started producing gloves and face shields and shit. China can make its own rubber and plastic crap and does.

      It's why Chinese masks are all KN99 standard, because they do their own stuff and have their own standards.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Google and amazon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Alexa, drop an air strike on these coordinates

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Check that Google and Disney

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >implying it wont be all three and more

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Samsung and Huaweii vs Apple and microsoft.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >alternate history where Kurt Cobain drops a tactical nuke down Amazon HQs main elevator shaft, digitized by Bezos, and ends up in a mercenary's head in 2077 Seattle

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Johnny was a vet before he was a rocker which is why he fitted in with the mercs and didn't instantly get zeroed on a mission. Kurt doesn't seem to fit with that.

      There's quite a few rappers with military service, I'm excluding Ice-T because he did literally nothing and was only in for two years and he spent a month of that AWOL anyway. I'm sure others actually deployed though, need to find one of those.

      I was going to say Fred Durst who is a total trainwreck which fits Johnny and is a great way to troll the thread but he was also only in the navy for two years.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson and lots of that generation served but are way too old, we really need someone from the sandbox-era.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jason Everman is close, he was in Nirvana but it was before he joined the military (army rangers->SF) and he didn't exactly hate it because he's some civilian military consultant these days.

          He was a fuck up when he was young and Kurt fired him for being depressed or something but he seems to have turned himself around and be pretty boring these days.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        was thinking of who would be the equivalent figure to zoomers. Like who would be a previously infamous musician that going people these days really don't know anything about

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but Cop Killer is fire.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson and lots of that generation served but are way too old, we really need someone from the sandbox-era.

        https://i.imgur.com/nONcmtw.jpg

        Jason Everman is close, he was in Nirvana but it was before he joined the military (army rangers->SF) and he didn't exactly hate it because he's some civilian military consultant these days.

        He was a fuck up when he was young and Kurt fired him for being depressed or something but he seems to have turned himself around and be pretty boring these days.

        Closest I can think of is this guy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >During Blunt's Kosovo assignment, he had brought along his guitar strapped to the outside of his tank and would sometimes perform for locals and troops.
          not gonna lie, sounds pretty Johnny thing to do

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I believe one of the members of nirvana actually became a green beret later on and fought in Afghanistan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mrw some Russian rocker drops a nuke down Lakhta-2 in the 2023 Gazprom-Rosneft war

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        love to see it

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man Lego vs. Playmobil will be a massacre. It's gonna be one sided since no one gives a fuck about Playmobil. Lego gonna send in their minifigure storm trooper army and playmobil with their revolutionary war british soldiers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Soviet body wave tactics
      >Lego

      >German blitzkrieg
      playmobil

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Playmobil have HIMARS and drones these days. Will you never learn Darth Putin?

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think an open, hot war between two megacorporations would look like?
    Like this.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We'll see when Russia collapses and China, European, and American corporations flood in exploit cheap natural resources causing inevitable conflict.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We'll see when Russia collapses and China, European, and American corporations flood in exploit cheap natural resources causing inevitable conflict.

      This is a pretty good candidate, a proxy war like

      https://i.imgur.com/2iAfyLf.jpg

      I predict a very plausible major corporate war is going to basically be an African proxy war over cobalt mines, that's the big thing right now, blood batteries are gonna be an absolute fundamental industry moving forward and in places like the Congo stealth funding private militias is very easy to get away with.

      but in Russia and between Chinese and Euro and US megacorps picking over the scraps from Russia's corpse after the regime change and the reconstruction era starts full of fat juicy marshall-plan contracts like Iraq was.

      They can use the old FSB and army as organised crime groups that fight proxy battles against each other's resources and in-country personnel.

      It kicks off when Huawei's office that they're running the new national telecommunications grid project from gets bombed by VDV hired by Amazon to clear the way for an Amazon/Google joint-venture. Samsung fans the flames from the sidelines by having the vory v zakone perform false-flag attacks on both sides and Huawei hires the ex-FSB guys to strike back against the VDV and the americans.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >when Russia collapses
      2 more weeks, ZOG bros

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we cant have a single thread without you dirty motherless pro skub fuckers coming in and shitting the place up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I cannot believe that in 2022 there's a single fucking retard who still uses skub. You don't genuinely use skub do you anon
      Like you're not that fucking stupid are you
      Let me guess you fell for "limited edition" fingerboxes too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        we cant have a single thread without you dirty motherless pro skub fuckers coming in and shitting the place up.

        Anti-Skubbers will tell you that they don’t use Skub. They’ll point to a vat full of Skub and say that they don’t want any. Barely a drop. They don’t want any more than a tiny scoop. How could you think that they would slather up a handful of Skub. They’ll say that just under a tub of Skub is tolerable, beneficial even. Then claims that Skub baths are medically necessary in the modern era. Meanwhile, the vat has been drained and they’ll say that they never used any Skub in the first place.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/ohNLaAk.jpg

          Skub lovers get out

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            KYS ANTI-SKUB FAG

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck skub all my homies hate skub

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >skub
      No big deal, if you don't want it, don't use it. If someone don't want it, don't force them.
      Problem solved.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There will never be open corporate wars. Just proxy wars, espionage and other criminal activity (violent, physical theft and white collar). Standing armies aren't economicly viable for corporations. Even PMCs can't do much more than provide security and genocide tribesman. It's also worth mentioning that corporate espionage (open source and clandestine) is way more prevelant than people think.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Private wars used to be very common, big corporations have budgets bigger than most nations so its hardly incontinence they invest into military

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blackrock vs Vanguard

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Governments are corporations.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What do you think an open, hot war between two megacorporations would look like?

      Proxy conflict in some third world hole with limited stakes.

      An actual war to the knife on a global scale? That shit'd be really short and anticlimactic as the respective governments would crack down on these lunatics, just to make sure the monopoly of force stays where it is.

      No. And keep the SovCit BS outta here.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No. And keep the SovCit BS outta here.
        Corporations that receive subsities, tax breaks, or other forms of de facto government funding are nothing more than extensions of the government, and thus violate the principle of a free market.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Corporations that receive subsities, tax breaks, or other forms of de facto government funding are nothing more than extensions of the government, and thus violate the principle of a free market.
          It's almost as if the free market is a myth and serves mostly as a justification for the de facto ruling class, transferring power from atleast nominally democratically elected state apparatus to completely authoritarian corporate ones, creating a feedback loop of interest groups lobbying and receiving financial benefits in return.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Corps are the government, they can't fight in the open.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Microsoft vs Macrohard

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    EA vs EA.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Issue is, it's cheaper to fight with prices and other market practices than it is to fight with guns. Armies are an inefficiency the current crop of mega-corporations cannot afford to have in their quest to get ALL the profit. After all, an army is a net loss even on a good day - either your soldiers are sitting with their thumbs up their asses deterring other armies, or they're being killed and you have to pay for their replacements.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I should also add, the only reason a megacorp would even think about an army would be to go against either a government or a revolutionary force - some large threatening entity which doesn't understand the markets. Other megacorps understand market forces - they can be bought off, out-competed, sued, undermined, and run into the ground - but governments and revolutionaries don't work like that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ultimately this is why a "megacorp" government could never work - corporations as a concept exist at the whim of the state, which has the military hard power to grant or confiscate economic hard power (i.e. resources) and there's basically nothing corporations can do about that without fully controlling the state. so in practice, corporate wars are fought through lobbying and the legal system. without access to those bureaucratic tools, a for-profit enterprise will not be able to efficiently use force because its sole incentive is profit, and war is unfathomably unprofitable. the incentives of functioning governments are not profit, unless your goal is to remove their functionality by cost cutting/privatization/asset auction

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the incentives of functioning governments are not profit
          Tell that to the British East India corporation.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >functioning

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, it functioned up until the British government took over.

              Corporations don't exist as a rival against governments, they exist as another tool of the elites in government to do extra legal shit overseas.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Completely This.
          Governments fight wars and they're very jealous of their perogitive. No government is going to let a corporation it doesn't control accquire a meaningful combat force. They've got governments only cool guys clubs designed specifically to keep randos from getting their hands on war materiel and would eagerly gang up on outlaw military-lite wannabes and not just direct action either. Think about it. How long are you going to be a corporation if you cannot use any financial services or legal venue? How many soldiers are going to accept raw bauxite (that's under sanction) as their pay while they fight blue helmets across Africa? A corporation independent, strong, and well resourced enough to fight a war would just be a government in denial. No. If corporations want to fight, they'll just let some government or another do the tough work for them. The corps like offloading expensive liabilities. The governments like excluding not-a-government actors. Everybody's happy and perks & bonuses all around.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fight with guns. Armies are an inefficiency the current crop of mega-corporations cannot afford to have in their quest to get ALL the profit
      But half of them are not actually making any profit and simply run stock price pyramid schemes

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dint think they will ever fight in open wars vs each other. I think they would sooner use assassination, it's cleaner that way.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukrainian pmc vs Russian Mercs in Syria.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    War is fucking Expensive.
    It'd be much cheaper to prop up either the Local Government or it's Detractors.
    Why spill your own or mercenary blood when you can fund and support a rebel group that will accomplish what you want. Or funding a corrupt government to do what you want and to do the dirty work of silencing dissidents for you, or even turning a blind eye to your smaller batch of corporate thugs.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope it will be Toyota nuking Tesla into the ground. I also hope they will jailbreak the shit out of Tesla and kamikaze every single one of those soulless tincans into vital infrastructure all across the world. Check fucking mate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >teslas start randomly catching fire en masse
      >the speakers scream banzai when they do it
      I'm here for it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its more liklely that Tesla self driving cars will go straight for Toyota executives and kill them.

      Japanese aren't known for computer technology. Technology wins in the end.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A man can dream..

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Disney versus Warner Media gonna be lit

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Serious question, who would actually win the fast food wars, unironically.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Coke

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pepsi International has Arab money

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      McDonalds and Taco Bell in a perpetual cold war. Wendy's, Burger King, and Arby's wiped out.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hear Tim Horton's commando unit is pretty good.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are master of Arctic warfare.
          They got 2 locations in Iqaluit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are master of Arctic warfare.
          They got 2 locations in Iqaluit.

          There's a fuckin' Timmies in Alert, the northern most inhabited place on earth, just 500 miles from the north pole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nestle, hands down.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The fucking Swiss
        Hearty amusement was had

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sysco, and it would be awful.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say an open corporate war would be too unprofitable for anything large. General corporate espionage and targeted assassination would be easier in every way. Technically business wars already happen between cartels.
    If it had to happen though they'd most likely focus on the rival companies logistics and delivery contractors, which would most likely spiral more and more as companies rely on other companies, and those relied on companies get targeted which drag them in and anyone they rely on.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's kinda the whole 4th Corpo War in Cyberpunk in a nutshell. Two ocean-centric corporations, CINO and OTEC, started a shadow fight over attempts by both to buy out a failing third competitor. Then one side hires on Arasaka and the other Militech, whose "security" division at that point were effectively mercenary armies. Then the two of them, top competitors in the international arms and security markets, just went at it more or less aiming to become the sole top dog, with their contracts to CINO and OTEC becoming more and more just the excuse for it.

      The "oceanic" phase of the war actually ended within a year because both CINO and OTEC got fucked up hard enough that they decided to hash out a peace agreement, but Arasaka and Militech just kept going anyway, escalating first into a shadow war of commando raids and net warfare, and then into open military clashes.

      And it ended essentially because the two wore each other down and lost a shitload of money. And then the american, european and japanese governments eventually had enough of the mounting collateral damage and essentially came down on both sides like a ton of bricks, even before the nuke in Night City.

      - As in, the Euros basically just nationalized all assets of both sides in Europe at gunpoint and straight-up wiped out any orbital assets they had that weren't strictle commercial or scientific. - The Japanese nationalised Arasaka assets in Japan itself after 'saka tried and failed to stage a coup.
      - And the NUS government reactivated the commission of the retired USMC general that was the CEO of Militech, followed by the president ordering him to have all Militech assets stand down from offensive action, under threat of a court martial for insubordination.

      Openly challenging a major national government and going to war against it is essentially the one line megacorps in the setting do not dare cross. The few who tried got stomped out with extreme prejudice.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man I gotta look at the cyberpunk stuff more, that's basically how I was imagining shit going down, although my guess was thinking about it being under an Anarcho capitalist esque system

        >Corporations that receive subsities, tax breaks, or other forms of de facto government funding are nothing more than extensions of the government, and thus violate the principle of a free market.
        It's almost as if the free market is a myth and serves mostly as a justification for the de facto ruling class, transferring power from atleast nominally democratically elected state apparatus to completely authoritarian corporate ones, creating a feedback loop of interest groups lobbying and receiving financial benefits in return.

        free market can work except garden gnomes ruined it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >free market can work except X ruined it
          Power consolidates, that is just the nature of things. A completely unregulated "free market" invariably results in more successful entrepreneurs growing bigger and bigger. This means that in the end resources are consolidated by giant corps, and any new innovation/breakthrough in the industry is aggressively bought out unless its already backed by old money. There are outliers ofcourse, especially when completely new industries are born from technology progressing, but these are by far the exception to the rule, and dont account for many vital industries, such as the housing market.

          Ultimately the only way to combat this is to have some way to stop corporations becoming "too big to fail", and this requires an entity that wields more defacto power than any one corporation/ interest group, ie the state.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Without government assistance large corporations and monopolies collapse regularly and frequently. As you expand a corporate structure it becomes less efficient, inneficiency tends to scale exponentially as productivity scales linearly.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >large corporations and monopolies collapse regularly and frequently
              That wholly depends on consumers being able to have a choice. But in many cases if left unregulated they simply do not. If drinking water/housing/internet/transport/energy/ infrastructure is monopolized by a single corporation in an area, there is no outside pressure for change.

              >Ultimately the only way to combat this is to have some way to stop corporations becoming "too big to fail", and this requires an entity that wields more defacto power than any one corporation/ interest group, ie the state
              We've got to stop the state from becoming one with the corporations! I've got it! We have the corporations one with the state! That'll increase competition!!

              The difference between a state and a corporation is that one is presumably democratically elected and the other is simply ruled by the people with the capital.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But in many cases if left unregulated they simply do not
                In real life, this does not occur.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post a gun you own.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              > As you expand a corporate structure it becomes less efficient, inneficiency tends to scale exponentially as productivity scales linearly.
              Wrong. Search "economy of scale"
              Big companies are more efficient than small businesses which is partly why small businesses fail at a higher rate

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's also why companies are fucking terrified of nationalized competitors - the economies of scale achievable by the state are unreachable by profit motivated entities because profit is an inefficiency that a democratically supported state can afford to do without

                Post a gun you own.

                rattled

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >profit is an inefficiency that a democratically supported state can afford to do without

                Yeah right. If the 20th century taught us anything its that central planning is grossly inefficient and corrupt.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >democratically supported

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Give me a break dude.

                Does democracy give us control over the corruption of the US government? The state is not to be trusted with the sort of power you want to entrust them with. You're just building stronger chains for yourself.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                a perversion of democracy means the elected government is not actually democratically supported
                i get that you might struggle with abstract thought but North Korea isn't a democracy just because that's what the "D" in DPRK stands for

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, only transformed a war torn country into a superpower in two decades, despite it suffering the most bloody front of the greatest continent-spanning industrial war ever seen, against odds of extermination

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yet where is that nation today? how are the rump states of that nation today?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it was a superpower in the same way a fat bitch has big tits.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, that's true. They could be big but still ugly.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Prerevolutionary Russia was actually poised to make great strides across the next hundred years, it probably would have become the cultural and military hegemon of Europe, an actual superpower today.
                Instead what you got was tens of millions dead and demographic damage that would take hundreds of years to heal. Realistically, we've reached the end of Russian history, they're never going to recover, just limping on as a wasteland until they're eventually divided up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it wasn't. Russia was fucked mostly because of the Tsardom. Agriculturally, the Russians were completely and totally behind Europe outside of the areas of the former PLC that they controlled. People like to rant about the horrors of the soviet system, then forget that they're just the issues with the Tsarist system replicated and sometimes made larger.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure why retarded Sovietboos come here, and say this non-sense. Who are you trying to convince besides yourself? Soviet Industrialization was done by the West. Ford and Koch built everything.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And Russian industrialization was mostly done by immigrants in the Tsarist period as well. The fact is that the Soviets didn't wreck anything that wasn't already fucking broke to shit anyway. Russia was not going to improve without major drastic reforms, and revolution of some kind was inevitable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >then forget that they're just the issues with the Tsarist system replicated and sometimes made larger.
                Because the communists held themselves a higher standard, and urged they would free their people from oppression when they just emulated the previous regime. More so, you're probably one those retards who think the monarchy was abolished by the Bolsheviks. You types tend not to be very good on dates and history.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, the provisional government replaced the monarchy, then the whole bolshevik revolution happened primarily because the new government was not really living up to what the people wanted.

                And yes, the great irony of the Bolshevik system is that it ended up just being the Tsardom but with most of its worst qualities amplified, because the tsarists brutalized a nation into submission in 1905. Reap what you sow.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean, only transformed a war torn country into a superpower in two decades, despite it suffering the most bloody front of the greatest continent-spanning industrial war ever seen, against odds of extermination
                Stalin admitted himself that the war would have been lost without American aid.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It... depends. If the goal is to answer a question like, "how many washing machines should there be, and who should get cancer when manufacturing them" then companies are really good at answering. Governments without a profit motive will bungle all the tiny details. On the other hand, when the question or goal is something less tangible like "who should own radio frequencies" or "how robust should the food supply be", then corporations will fuck it up doing the awful profit minded thing.

                For SOCs under a government mandate, it can go either way. If the government is too hands-on, then their meddling will sabotage all the micro practical decisions and nothing gets done. But if their touch is just right, directly forces a corporation to contribute to some intangible objective that it wouldn't have done otherwise. It's kind of like a proactive form of what regulations do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i get where you're coming from, and i've seen that reasoning a lot, but i've never seen any empirical evidence that governance is more prone to small scale inefficiencies than corporations - in fact, the relationship of managerial/administrative positions to the allocation of funds tends to bloat the compensation of largely fictional clerical work to astronomical levels and allocate only the bare minimum to production or services. the idea of the private company as some sort of ideal profit calculator is blissfully ignorant of the profit motives of its constituent members as individuals by abstracting their incentives across the entire corporation.
                on top of this, in the private sector, once sufficient market share is reached, it becomes more profitable to suppress competition and cut costs than to compete on efficiency, because the goal isn't efficiency of production, it's efficiency of profit taking.
                the reason the only mitigation of this occurs from state policy (i.e. regulation) is that wealth in capitalism simply has no mechanisms to control and prevent abuse without intervention by the state, which it must do to avoid the literal decohesion of the society from wealth inequality (starving people don't give much of a shit about the social contract)

                i'd say the determining factor of SOC competence only appears to be government overreach in many instances because it's the same micromanaging, manipulative, inflexible behavior of incompetent management that you see all the time in the private sector. democratic processes can help treat nepotism and quid pro quo, but they aren't a perfect cure - and they're arguably much better than the only control on private incompetence which is "be so unfathomably bad at your job that you manage to make yourself unprofitable in an environment that pisses out investments and issues debt like a water balloon hit with bird shot"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm an accountant at a large public accounting firm who's audited the financials of both government and publicly listed clients (in canada there are lots of government owned "crown" corporations that otherwise run as a private company). Suggesting the government is anything but wildly inefficient made me kek, there is no profit motive to keep them on their toes, usually these companies are targeting retarded KPIs that make no tangible difference but look good when put in a slidedeck to show to an MP. Government work takes 3x longer to get done and it takes 3x as many people to do it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are literally doing fictional clerical work to verify other fictional clerical workers
                your entire industry can (and probably should) be excessed in favor of a public spreadsheet

                if we assume your appraisal is correct to your experiences, here's a few things to consider in your next audit:
                - what is the longevity of the completed work?
                - what mechanisms exist to conceal accounting flaws and abuses for public or private entities?
                - by what criteria is an entity selected for audit in public versus private sectors?
                - what proportion of private versus public sector operation have you actually sampled?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. Search "Peter Principle" and "Pareto Principle". If big corporations were stable they wouldn't need constant help from the government.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If that was the case national governments would be unworkable

                They arnt u dummy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ultimately the only way to combat this is to have some way to stop corporations becoming "too big to fail", and this requires an entity that wields more defacto power than any one corporation/ interest group, ie the state
            We've got to stop the state from becoming one with the corporations! I've got it! We have the corporations one with the state! That'll increase competition!!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The main issue is that the government actively acts as a savior to large businesses. There'd be no need to combat a large business taking over a massive sector if 1.the government wouldn't bail them out every time a recession or bad couple years hits and 2.the government forced barriers to entry. For example, airlines, they're basically IV fed by the government on a near constant basis despite their inefficiencies and no outsiders can ever hope to get in due to costs and the fact they'd never get any passengers since they don't have what is essentially government backing.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Anon you need to consider WHY the government backs large businesses
              Its because those businesses can afford to hire lobbyists and "donate to" (i.e bribe) political parties to get laws passed in their favour.
              Government subsidies to big business are a symptom if the problem, not the cause.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Destroy all subsidies, behead all lobbyists, problem disappears.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Improving transparency and accountability in politics, with a particular emphasis on political donations and subsidies, is a good (and common) suggestion
                But how do you convince the politicians to pass them?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The same and only way anyone convinces anyone of anything they're strongly opposed to.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                violence?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                proper violence, not this pussy shit where we kill random cunts.

                build a web, with the asshole who's life you want ruined, and get every associate around them, and their associates.

                don't just prune the nodes, poison some of them and prevent them from throwing them aside.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You seem to be ignoring span of control. It's vastly easier to police a handful of extremely large companies than it is to try and herd tens of thousands of Mom and Pop shops. Passing legislation has political ramifications, wouldn't you like to just have the President call up the Big 3 automakers and say "America needs you to hold down wages to lick this inflation thing" and wouldn't you know it 2.5M direct employees don't get a raise and millions more have their wages frozen in step. The policy you wanted got implemented and nobody had to take a difficult vote and there's nothing to defend in court because you just had a convesation. Monopolies/oligopolies are extremely convienent to rule over.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gundam is already doing this kind of story with the latest series, Witch from Mercury

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda hope it looks like armored core…

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cargill vs. Monsanto is gonna be lit.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It already happened, The British East India Trading Company raised a private army and went to war with both the Portugese India Trading company and the French East India Trading Company. Each owned trading settlements, factories, bought and sold Hispanices and raw materials, and sold manufactured goods in India, as well as owning shipping, arms and powder production and real estate back home. Modern corporations mostly sponsor coups or counter-coups, or pay of militias/army/bandits to fuck with rivals or other obstacles, but thats always relatively local and by proxy, no corpo soldiers.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its gonna be quick because no company will want to drain funds on a forever war which means its gonna be a brutal merciless all or nothing.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My wife and I have already decided to pledge our service to Elon when his fight against Bezos goes hot.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Who do you think the first one is gonna be between?

    The East India Company employed an army of 200,000 soldiers and had a worth of roughly 8.3 trillion dollars adjusted for inflation. For comparison the most valuable company in the world at the moment is Saudi Aramco, the national petroleum company of Saudi Arabia which has a value of 1.9 trillion dollars.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Google vs Apple

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine how homo their uniforms would look.

      Meanwhile the Samsung hegemony takes over most of east Asia, officially.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can see it happening over water with private water companies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      are there still efforts being made to make offshore platforms for cheaply for commerce? that could be interdiastin.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    most wars happen due to companies or due to money ww1 and ww2 happened and the winners were decieded based on who owed usa most money. The indian and chinese wars happened due to east india company all wars have some financial or banking or some big companies behind it

    the ukraine war there's lots of financial and companies behind it, hunter biden joe biden and lot other people have a lot to gain from this ukraine russian war right now,

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Omg, its the hecking BIDEN mafia!!!!! garden gnomes are slipping estrogen in your intestines!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        post gun

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >megacorps war

    moron that happened almost 100 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaco_War

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    RED vs BLU of course

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would you guys join a corporate paramilitary unit?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if the pay is great

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if they let me do whatever the fuck I wanted to, to enemy troops, which I know they wouldn't because the vast majority of corpos are massive pussies.
      You get me into an actual Corporate war where I can drop recreational napalm on the McTroops down the road and yeah I'll join in a heartbeat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if they have a great dental plan.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Corporate wars will always be subversive in nature. They only care about money, depending on their structure they may have other incentives.
    Corporations, Unions, or whatever have the potential to take control of power, but it will rely on a weakened government system.
    Any Corporate war will probably be financed by a foreign country. Therefore being reliant on another state for power. Like Banana Republics.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the British and Dutch ever got into conflict when they both had active East India Companies, then it's already happened. Seriously, the British EIC had one of the largest military forces and fleets in the world in the 1850s, levied its own taxes and minted its own currency. Closest the world has come to a corporate state, and in large possible for the current state of affairs in India.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in large possible
      In large part responsible. Not even sure what happened with that one

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno if this is cheating or not but probably Blackwater vs Wagner or some other PMC

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Corporate War
    Are we going to live to see vat grown corporate clones fighting cyberpunk cyborgs and gritty open-source Boston Dynamics knock-offs? PLEASE?

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pitching in for Toyota.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if they make Scotty Kilmer my NCO
      would post a Scotty meme, but phone posting 🙁

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It can be arranged

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first war already happened. Nobody wants to speak about it. It's not recorded well. This is why IBM split and had mergers. Modern computing is based off of C language and their system. The context of when time began doesn't matter.

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would love to see mercs from Samsung and Apple or Microsoft fighting over mineral deposits on Titan but we'll never see it because it's physically impossible and that means real life is boring as fuck.

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would you be a cyber soldier for your corp of choice PrepHole? Serve one tour and you get to keep the robot body and get free maintenance and upgrades for life, which will be a really long time now that you don't need to worry about your organs crapping out on you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      abso-fucking-lutely

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd go full Adam Smasher for the first cunt who offered, if I'm being perfectly honest. Of course, people like that are a dime a dozen, so realistically they'd just replace me ASAP as it'd be cheaper and easier.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a tour
      lol that wouldn't happen. they would chip your ass like a dog and give the ol stick and carrot treatment till you died.

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If this is the cyberpunk thread, I was just thinking that the dumbest prediction it made was ultra shitty disposable guns.

    The Ring of Fire trend never continued, the lowest end guns today like Canik and Taurus are still an order of magnitude higher quality than the true Saturday Night Specials were

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idk, the more "pure" 3d printed guns tend to only last 100-200 rounds, still sturdier then most of those

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't they have major resource shortages and rampant poverty?
      It wouldn't shock me to see super cheap guns like that in those conditions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idk, the more "pure" 3d printed guns tend to only last 100-200 rounds, still sturdier then most of those

      3D printed guns are more cyberpunk than anyone imagined the future would be

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >$15 poly one shot
      >$7k cyberscope taped to it

      Sounds like cyberpunk PrepHole all right.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ultra shitty disposable guns
      The concept of disposable guns is dumb because the true limiting factor is ammo, not the gun itself. Sometimes ammo is way more expensive than the gun in the long run and that's where companies are trying to garden gnome us. A gun without ammo is just a scrap of metal and they know it.
      It's the same crap when in the last century, the great powers basically gave a lot of guns for free to some random african or asian tribes to defend themselves. The catch was that they gave only limited ammo so they could be hooked into buying more from them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ultra-cheap disposables aren't about garden gnomeing the average customer (that's a bonus) they're about serving niche customers: People too poor to afford a proper gun, and criminals who want to ditch the gun after use.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Petes vs Starbucks is Deus Ex Canon

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think an open, hot war between two megacorporations would look like?
    Terror attacks and skirmishes on local Corp HQs/Locations by third party mercenaries. With local government and Corp officials saying it's part and parcel of living in a village/town/city and urging you to continue spending money at these locations.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Liandri vs Axon

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cali v Medellin. Really any of the cartel wars. Or you could look further back to the battles fought between striking workers and the pinkertons. Or the east India company

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As an Australian I will be watching with great interest to see who sponsors who during the inevitable wesfarmers - Coles group proxy war

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    East India Company, mining interests in the Congo, drug cartel warfare - we have lots of examples. Cyberpunk is a caricature made to draw attention to how technology simply amplifies pre-existing conditions and tendencies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hell, before the Sit-Down Strike GM was sitting on the largest supply of tear gas in the world.

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why the fuck would megacorporations go to war with each other, what is the point? People here watch way too much anime.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I could see terrorist kind of stuff, one Corp bombing another.
      Or if they were from different countries with bad relations, I could see companies hiring mercenaries to fight over some resource somewhere. Maybe piracy.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care who wins. Just a fan of Houston, and picrel in particular.
    >Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan!

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boing v Airbus
    But I don't want to see them with military, I want them to use their commercial airplanes to destroy each others production and research facilities.
    I also believe airfighting with ramming as the only option of stopping the other airplane would create awesome footage.
    Maybe I just love watching airplanes explode.

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think an open, hot war between two megacorporations would look like?
    Didn't these already exist back in the 17th-18th century with the VOC and the East India Company for colonial control.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like the Turkish coupe complete with police stations getting gunshipped.

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    McDonald's vs cocacola

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >instead of good/cool mega corporations names, we got fucking Amazon, Apple, Google
    I swear to fucking God, nothing in this reality is good

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk anon I think a monolithic megacorp named after one of the most hostile places on the planet for humans to live is pretty fitting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      apple can get away with it given a biblical perspective. only google sounds retarded.

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you forget about Iraq?

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These are all kind of cringe posts not gonna lie.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off Pinkerton

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      corporate dicklicker. It's better than Ukraine thread #6gorillion.

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+f Neucom
    >0 hits
    GENERAL RESOURCE WINS AGAIN

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gas companies vs green companies

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