Wanted y'all's opinions on my two choices for my first handgun for my CCW. It's between a Jericho 941, or beretta 92fs inox. I like how both feel in the hand but good God the Beretta is not cheap.
First carry gun what should I get anons
Wanted y'all's opinions on my two choices for my first handgun for my CCW. It's between a Jericho 941, or beretta 92fs inox. I like how both feel in the hand but good God the Beretta is not cheap.
>full size double stack handguns for CC
bro get something smalle
Listen to these anons. I bought a 92fs for cc and it is way too big and heavy.
I am also a DA/SA enjoyer so I've been thinking about getting a cz rami
i was also looking at getting a rami. Looks like they were discontinued in 2020 and are now 1000+ dollars if you can find one which fucking sucks.
Tiny wrists typed this post
>he thinks you need big wrists(???) to use a chunky 9mm
obvious noguns is obvious
Kek I used to think this. Then my buddy who 5’10 and maybe 120 soaking wet bought a full sized beretta. With the holster he bought I legit never know when he’s carrying.
1911's, because they're so thin and svelte, can pretty easily be cc'd, especially with a 4" barrel.
The best part is they don't work! Nobody gets killed!
get better b8
Lankey boys.
OP GET A 1911, 10mm.
Honestly, a Glock.
Whichever one fits your needs best.
Trigger is always the same, no DA/SA complexity.
All the accessories.
If "carry gun" was a commodity, like, corn, wheat, etc, it'd be Glock.
Some anon just found a 92fs inox for like $420 over in /hg/, there’s deals to be found on them, and Jerichos are hit or miss and not very well support nowadays.
Both of those are too large and heavy for daily CC unless you live in Alaska and wear a coat for 8 months of the year.
I lazily cc big guns (Langdon 92G, 1911A1, 6906) all year. Havent touched my Glombck 43x in years.
It's zero issue.
>Inb4 it's too hot where I live
Become a linen/ silk shirt chad, you'll cool far better than you would in a t-shirt
t. Not an Alaskan
What brand shirts do you wear? I’ve been looking to get into linen. Was also thinking about linen pants.
Whatever is at the thrift store, or on clearance at TJMAXXX and the like
You can carry anything under these, and they're so much better than a moron t-shirt for keeping cool/dry.
Plus it looks better.
OP? KFC or Popeyes
Bojangles
I think you'd be better served with a small-frame .357 magnum loaded with hollowpoints. If you wanted to be gucci about it the deagle brand deagle comes in that caliber and it's a sleeper of a gun when chambered in that round once you find some ammo that feeds nicely although the deagle brand deagle is more of an open carry handgun unless you're big enough to recreate the tokarev skin table picture.
I’ve carried a 96 which is the same as a 92. It’s doable but you’re going to print so you’ll need over shirts or hoodies. A full size is a good idea.
an apx a1 is $389 -$100 rebate
if da/sa is your thing a px4 is $499 -$79 rebate
you cannot go wrong with either
>px4 is $499
where? I can find some of the full sized ones but the compact seems to all be 6-700+
9mm compact 600 after credit card fees on gunbroker right now
2 left
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1005721662
10 round mags though.
Beretta is having a Labor Day sale up to 500 dollars back if you some how spend 1000 dollars on their site, if you want to get some magazines. 20% off if you spend 125
>if you some how spend 1000 dollars on their site
that's pretty difficult to do considering they don't sell guns there kek
You can buy mags and parts, plus their clothing is Italian tier as expected.
I buy their clothing
gunprime my dude
I just pocket carry bro.
Your first CC gun should be small, like an S$W Shield, a Glock 42, or an S&W J-Frame. Trying to CC a full-sized handgun outside of winter months doesn't work, it'll always print, and frankly it's a larp to CC a full sized pistol anyways
Honest question. Why do people care so much about printing?
Depends on your area, if you live in Baptist country no one will bat an eyelash at a gun bulge. If you live in Sandy Hook, you are one anxious soccer mom away from having an awkward conversation with the police.
It's wearing tight gym shorts without underpants
in some states if a cop sees the pocket clip of your knife sticking out he could detain you and confiscate the knife and try to find if you've broken any knife laws once they process you back at the station.
if you are printing a bump in your waist a clerk or a security guard or literally just any random karen can call 911 and report you. The cops then show up to frisk and handcuff you before you are allowed to reach into your pocket to show your license to carry.
some people are just extra fucking cucked by the government like that.
>in some states if a cop sees the pocket clip of your knife sticking out he could detain you and confiscate the knife and try to find if you've broken any knife laws
I dont think this has ever happened anywhere
but the Karen thing is a real possibility, if some cali refuge see's you printing in a grocery checkout she will call the cops and scream about a man with a gun about to shoot up the place
>i dont think this has ever happened anywhere
New York exists even if nobody wants it to.
yeah I lived in NY up to last year, had a knife on me 24/7 since college
Ask the people who foolishly decided to spend their tourism money in NYC.
It's a good question. Just adding onto the good answers the other anons have offered: There's a stance among a lot of CC'ers that the most valuable aspect of concealing a firearm is the concealment. If you advertise to the world that you're carrying a gun, you lose the very valuable element of surprise. For example, if a would-be attacker/robber is assessing a group of people in a gas station or on the sidewalk outsider a bar and trying to decide who is an easy target, and they can see the obvious outline of a pistol in one person's pocket or waistband, they'll come up behind that person first and knock them out unawares or maybe even try to take the gun to eliminate that threat. Or if armed attackers are hellbent on doing whatever they're doing, they'll run up quick and shoot the person who obviously has a gun first. That's basically the gist of that line of thinking, take from it what you will. The biggest thing about printing for me though is that if the gun/holster combo is bulky enough to leave a noticeable imprint on the outside of the pants, it's bulky/cumbersome enough to cause discomfort to me. Call me a pussy gay retard if you wish, but I like to be comfortable and wear comfortable clothes. The smaller the handgun I carry, the more comfortable I am as I go about my business.
Only care where it's illegal.
The fuckin subway trains coming into the station will make a big draft that will flip your shirt up if you dont hold it down
In some states if someone can tell you're carrying a gun because you're printing you can get charged for brandishing a firearm. It doesn't happen very often and is typically reserved for people being jackasses and trying to CC a deagle brand deagle in a spandex bodysuit or equivalent levels of being a fuckin retard, but the whole point of having a concealed handgun is for people to not know you have it for a lot of reasons but primarily because people that have no or little experience with firearms tend to be uncomfortable around them and sometimes even have a full-blown panic response and go into fight or flight mode. It's a keeping the peace sort of thing.
If you're carrying full-size do it in an open carry holster for faster draw, if you have to go concealed then you have to get something you can conceal. Unless you're fucking huge you're probably not going to be able to successfully CC a lot of full-size handguns, I've seen a dude that was 6'9 that conceal carried a full size 10mm tanfoglio with extended barrel and got away with it clean but that's about the limit and that's an extremely large man.
p365 and load it with the 50gr ammo, makes the gun super light it's great
1911 will make you feel cool and you can carry with a comfy hybrid holster strong side, big dick around town with a shoulder rig, or toss it into a bag without issue thanks to the manual and grip safety.
or if you have to have a modern pistol to feel cool get a glonk 19, cut the grip down to fix 26 mags and call it a day.
Theyre so slim qnd easy to shoot well
S&W 3913 or its chunkier, cheaper sister the 908(S)
>First carry gun
The Dessert Eagal in 44 magnum in a dropped leg holsert was my first carry gun. It was so iffective at stopping crime I never had to used it.
I hope it is never hot where you live if you plan on carrying that behemoth everyday
Get something cheap you sperg.
If you ever have to shoot someone you have to turn it over and will probably never see it again.
You want lightweight, double stack, basic = reliable.
Point, bang, done.
Inox is a fancy gun, not an EDC. The Jericho is a heavy bitch.
>Inox is a fancy gun, not an EDC
What kind of retarded take is this? It’s just a 92fs with different finish, one of the most combat proven sidearms of today.
love my Jericho, as long as you don't mind the weight you can't go wrong with it
How hard is it to find 41AE
Reed's Ammo manufactures it for almost $2 CPR
the hard part isn't getting the ammo though, it's getting a barrel. I managed to snag one off GB a few years ago but even then I had to have a gunsmith modify it slightly to fit the newer Jericho frames (and when I say newer I mean pretty much any jericho that wasn't sold as part of the original 9/41 kit)
Goddamn. Any particular performance-related reasons you go through all the trouble for that cartridge or do you just think it's neat?
it's mostly just my particular brand of autism. I like the name, "Action Express". I like that it's the biggest and heaviest bullet you can fit into a small frame Jericho (Reed's makes them up to 210g). it's a fun novelty round to shoot on occasion, kicks like a horse. also a good conversation piece with other people at the range.
I keep it as my bedside gun and take it out to the porch when I have a smoke, though for carry I do use a 9mm and general home defence I have an AR15.
>general home defence I have an AR15.
clown
Very neat. Having a gun as a convo piece is great, it's the reason I deer hunt with a stock Mosin. Cool-factor
Based fun enjoyer
Fuck off you don’t even know what kind of home he has, a rifle could be perfectly valid.
If his home is a 800ftx1200ft warehouse then sure, it'd be ideal. If his home is like 99% of American homes, he should use his 41AE Jericho for home defense
It’s a gun. It shoots. 99% of the time just making noise and announcing that you’re in the house spooks home invaders into running away. And if some brown druggy decides to go loud, any gun of any caliber will be fine as long as anon is a half decent shot.
bump, looking for my first pistol I can also use to CC
I had the exact same choices and i decided on jericho because i got it for 1/3rd of an original price from israeli police. I don't regret it, it's an amazing gun, built like a tank, shooting extremally flat, with great trigger, but with beretta you would probably have more options with holsters and most spare parts
If you decide to buy Jericho, keep in mind that majority of parts, mags etc it's exchangable with tangfolio and cz 75, so buying jericho mags for jericho makes no sense if you can get the same shit for half the price, manufactured by cz
>first gun
GLOCK OR M&P
THEN GO TO RANGE AND PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE
>consider other people blah blah blah
Fuck em; they're wrong, I'm right, OP is a gay, and mass-repliers suck miles of cock.
My vote is the Beretta. Mine was only like $500 and it came with a. Langdon trigger kit. They're cheap if you buy them locally and used.
Is that a Saab 900 Turbo?
Based, anon, very based. Don't listen to any of these manlets suggesting you get a microsubcompact minipistolette, go for the Beretta. I carry a 92S and absolutely love it.
>Any of you retards ever consider that other people might not all have the same physique and manner of dress that you do?
If you're such a fatbody that you can completely conceal a full-sized pistol, you should spend the few hundred bucks on a gym membership rather than the pistol, because obesity is a much more pressing threat to your life than a dindu, mugger, or attacker.
Seems to me like fat dudes would have a harder time with concealment. Fewer flat areas or valleys on their bodies to conceal in.
Counterpoint: more fat rolls to lift up and stuff it under, and usually gentlemen of size wear looser/baggier clothing, which is more forgiving for printing.
>lift up and stuff it under
Ouch
>gentlemen of size
Lmfao you've made up a ridiculous body positivity term for men you absolute madlad
>slut
>woman of mileage
Love those girl I don't gotta be gentle wt em
I love a woman I can actually just try to kill
Skinny dudes can CC bigger guns comfortably. If you've got a gut, it will hang over/push against/rub against your gun while you walk.
Glock 19.
Not kidding.. its the perfect gun to get used to other guns. Customizing goes a long way to extent its usability. It goes from newb to pro with a few hundred bucks.
Carry a beretta like a fucking man
CZ triggers even with CGW parts are dog shit in DA, what the fuck is wrong with you people, that’s your fucking messiah? Some garbage progressive pull
Maybe you have chub rolls you can stick a Krink between but I'm average height and built like wolverine in the old xmen movies
All I know is, anon, if you choose a Beretta, get the LTT job if you want a dot, the factory optic mounting system is trash.
I was thinking about pic rel. is it shit?
For only $300, it's better than nothing. I'd never put my life on 8 rounds of .380. If you have the money, go for a mag capacity of (bare minimum) 12 rounds. Mine holds 17, and believe me, having the ability to forgo carrying an extra mag makes carrying simpler and more comfortable.
Also, go for 9mm: it's cheaper in terms of cents per bullet and performs better in just about every regard.
Im a bit fixated on metal frame hammer fired pistols. what about beretta 92x compact or the cz 75 compact.
I'm no expert on those guns, but I'd say in general get a pistol that's no more then 1.5" in width (because once it's in a holster the setup will feel a lot more bulky on your body), and has a grip barely big enough for your hands (grip-printing is the most significant issue I've had carrying).
There's a website called handgunhero that allows you to compare both the raw stats but also scaled pictures of different handguns.
if you want budget, ruger LC9s or EC9s is actually reliable and comfortable to carry
I've been very happy with my LCP2 with a clipdraw attached. you can carry it in pretty much any outfit super easy. In my opinion the best CC gun is the one youll always carry with you.
the downside is that because it is so small and lightweight that it is not fun to shoot at the range.
Haven’t came on PrepHole in a while, but thought you guys might have some advice or just insight.
Inb4 calls me a bitch
how do you guys hone that EDC mindset? I just moved to very violent US city and have considered starting to EDC very soon after moving here.
From a means to prevent armed robbery perspective : Obviously I don’t want to be become a victim of robbery. which is what draws me toward getting a CCW. But do I really value life more than a wallet of cash and cards what they’re after? I mean in a hypothetical world if that’s GUARANTEED all they’re after, and there was a 100% way to know that they’d leave you unharmed after robbing you, it would be a case where what’s the point of taking a life because of replaceable things, dealing with PTS and all it’s disturbing byproducts, an investigation, etc etc. I say just fuck it and take that on the chin.
However this isn’t a such a world. There is that unknown . Maybe they will just rob you and leave. Or maybe after they do, they will get rid of you being as you’re a witness. This for me is what pushes me towards carrying. Not to be protect myself from losing a wallet, but to protect myself from losing my life. Is this line of thinking common? How do you guys approach this. This is from a robbery perspective and my thought process, but obviously there’s so many unknowns. Rape, kidnapping, etc. Do you guys carry cause you don’t wanna take that chance? How do you approach that unknown?
Didn’t read your full post
Watch Paul Harrell’s video on “frame of mind” for carrying.
Read the local news religiously to watch for crime patterns.
Carry everyday you can. This is to build program compliance and so you’ll feel naked without a gun.
Practice draws, etc. but most importantly practice awareness. Simply avoiding dangerous areas like dark areas, gas stations after dark, atms after dark, parking garages. Eye up any pedestrians since car jackings are in vogue but what they do in my city is rear end you in a stolen car and then stick a gun in your face when you get out of the car
>it would be a case where what’s the point of taking a life because of replaceable things ... I say just fuck it and take that on the chin.
Can't relate.
If I have the opportunity to legally kill someone then you bet your ass I'm taking it. Obviously I'm not going to shoot unless I'm confident it's legally justified and I'm definitely not going to admit that I might have had any sort of motive other than to defuse a threat to my life but fuck it, someone tries to rob me then they deserve to die.
I love my 92 series handguns as much as any Beretta fanboy, but that's not what I would conceal. An APX compact (not the carry, those are dogshit) would be a better choice.
>beretta 92fs inox
Only answer.
This thread has convinced me to gain a hundred pounds so I can carry my beretta 92SF DA/SA under a strategic roll of fat. I already new #X Hawaiian shirts were cool AF.
Get a Glock 19 or a 17 if you can swing it that’s the only correct answer sorry