This is terrible bait and your still probably going to get hundreds of replies.
>bolt catch release in trigger guard KYS noguns
and for all these people who care about lefties im one and you never cared before, I found plenty of ways to operate your right handed guns quit acting like youre a 10%er the mia is perfect you just need an adjustable gas plug and suppressor no one here owns an m1a
Facts, as a rifle not an assault rifle it makes perfect sense. AR-10s break apart even knights armament can’t get the bolt release and firing pin not to break. FALs are heavier and less accurate, G3s are also heavier but badass G3 owners and Bula M14 owners can be buds
Its fine, if the AR-10 won I'm sure they would have changed something about its power and cleaning kit at the last minute like they did with the AR-15 and then we'd have old boomers b***hing about it instead.
They gave Knights motherfricking armament a chance to make a good AR-10 and that thing was a POS with the firing ping breakages, bolt hold open breakages, and other small parts breaking.
Report on Tests for Ad Hoc Committee on Accuracy and Testing of 7.62mm Ammunition and M14 Rifles. Report No. DPS-741, Dates of Test: 28 September 1961 to 30 January 1962.
“All of the rifles from Winchester and H&R exhibited excessive headspace.
All of the rifles had loose handguards.
Ninety-five percent of the rifles had loose stock bands.
Ninety percent of the rifles had loose gas cylinders.
Seventy-five percent of the rifles had misaligned op rods and gas pistons.
Fifty percent of the rifles had loose op rod guides.
Fifty percent of the rifles had op rods that rubbed the stock.
Three rifles had barrels that exceed the maximum bore dimensions.
Only three rifles had an average bore diameter that fell below the accepted mean diameter.
One rifle was found to have a broken safety, while another had a misassembled safety spring.
One rifle had a misassembled flash suppressor, which was actually contacting bullets during live-fire tests.”
Of course this exact bit gets posted.
Where's the primary source? For something like this it's funny that there is no apparently version of the original online.
It's also funny how the numbers simply don;t add up. 90% of 21 rifles, were they reporting partial failures or fractional rifles?
I am an armorer in the Old Guard and of the 105 M-14s in my Arms Room, literally zero have any of these issues.
Of course this exact bit gets posted.
Where's the primary source? For something like this it's funny that there is no apparently version of the original online.
It's also funny how the numbers simply don;t add up. 90% of 21 rifles, were they reporting partial failures or fractional rifles?
I've got an M21 clone that performs identically to the one Henry uses on the 9hole reviews channel on youtube. It cost me about $3k without the scope. And just like Henry, my buddy's $1.2k AR-10 shot an identical group, right out of the box, as my M21 did. I love my M21. It's cool, but it's novelty.
The M14 and Mini-14 have one giant flaw, when the bolt goes back there's a giant fricking opening that crap can get into.
Also, the M14's operating rod system is exposed, which can get jammed up if debris gets in it.
The Mini-14 fares a bit better because it has a cover over it.
What I never understood with moron caw ah dooty black ops zombies is that why does the M14 get only 8 rounds? Even packapunched you get 16 rounds, it comes standard with a 20 round mag why don’t you give me a 20 round mag?
Well for starters, that poor GI's fingers look like they're about to get smashed once it cycles.
Anyways, perfect for it's intended role in a European ground war against a peer opponent. Not so perfect for some shithole jungle across the world.
Same deal with the M16 and other assault rifles. Perfect for irrelevant terrorist-infested shitholes across the world, not so perfect in peer to peer combat across the open plains of Europe.
The brass will, for some reason or another, never understand this and continue to flip flop that the old way was all wrong despite stellar service in previous conflicts and that the new way was something all those dead dipshits never coulda thought of. We did this with the M16, we're doing this now with the XM5, and we're going to do it again in another 50 to 60 years or so. It's like using horse archers on wide open plains and steppes to great effect, running into a jungle or thickly forested region they can't traverse and aren't effective at, and the generals giving the order to turn all their shitty useless horses across the empire into glue and restructure our forces around foot infantry only. Then when we get fricked up back on the plains, we buy more horses and scrap our footmen. Any sane person might just say "maybe each of these has a niche they fulfill" and assign them each their place.
>Well for starters, that poor GI's fingers look like they're about to get smashed once it cycles.
The manual of arms instructs you to hold those types of rifles like like that. Why? nobody knows but it's common sense to not touch the fast moving metal bit so you won't get hurt and make a mockery of fine American engineering by causing a stoppage (criticizing shit designs is anti American and a threat to our democracy).
I was just commenting on how the guy's finger is on a moving part is all. Can't say I've shot an M14 or M1A myself, but I've been able to frick with the action a little and I know that what his fingertips are on is part of the bolt. At the very least I can assume that raised section behind it with the charging lever is probably going to cut into something as it slams back home, or at least leave a bruise. Maybe it's nothing, but having body parts in a moving machine usually means bad things as far as I know.
I was just commenting on how the guy's finger is on a moving part is all. Can't say I've shot an M14 or M1A myself, but I've been able to frick with the action a little and I know that what his fingertips are on is part of the bolt. At the very least I can assume that raised section behind it with the charging lever is probably going to cut into something as it slams back home, or at least leave a bruise. Maybe it's nothing, but having body parts in a moving machine usually means bad things as far as I know.
It's fine, the most you might do if you're death griping the gun is slow down the oprod which might cause a jam but I never had it happen.
The actual scary bit is far away from the hand.
I like the M14 a lot, but it's gas system is pretty shitty. It's a tiny short stroke piston that can corrode, and you need a special wrench to access it, and it needs to be tightened with a specific torque. M14 is still my favorite of the big three.
This is terrible bait and your still probably going to get hundreds of replies.
>Ambi controls
>Bolt catch/release in trigger guard
Frick we wuz ahead of the time thenz
>bolt catch release in trigger guard KYS noguns
and for all these people who care about lefties im one and you never cared before, I found plenty of ways to operate your right handed guns quit acting like youre a 10%er the mia is perfect you just need an adjustable gas plug and suppressor no one here owns an m1a
Son, what is that abomination of a rifle?
gotta find a black walnut(juglans nigra) m1a stock if i'm gonna go classic look or a sage for memes
tan archangel to gay? post yours homosexual
>pull trigger
>it goes bang
IT'S PERFECT!!!
>pull trigger
>it goes bang
G u n
this but unironically
>ergos
skill issue
>weight
don't care
>reliability
TRB
>serviceability
not my problem
Frick ya mudda
Facts, as a rifle not an assault rifle it makes perfect sense. AR-10s break apart even knights armament can’t get the bolt release and firing pin not to break. FALs are heavier and less accurate, G3s are also heavier but badass G3 owners and Bula M14 owners can be buds
Ordinance Department hands typed this post
So what? The M14 won the trial fair and square cope you FALchud. For your sake don’t even bring up that joke of an AR-10
Its fine, if the AR-10 won I'm sure they would have changed something about its power and cleaning kit at the last minute like they did with the AR-15 and then we'd have old boomers b***hing about it instead.
>power
Powder*
They gave Knights motherfricking armament a chance to make a good AR-10 and that thing was a POS with the firing ping breakages, bolt hold open breakages, and other small parts breaking.
Considering that the powder was the one used in the 7.62x51mm as standard.....
Only the Ordinance Department could frick up putting a detachable box mag on a Garand.
When non-whites can do it faster and better you fricked up.
>Ordinance
>Ordinance
Dumbasses.
mag insertion is cancerous
>t. actually own a gun im talking about online
As someone who owns a Bula, that’s fair but relatively minor for the accuracy, light weight, and durability
You just need to break your mags in, every time I get a new mag for it I need to basically beat it in but after a dozen or so insertions it's fine.
Really, why can't Springfield make a compete stainless model like the mini-14?
I saw a picture of a M1A with a Magpul SGA stock...anybody have one?
Looks like M-14 and Mini-14's can finally be viable in the modern day without a pistol grip
Really looks like a gun that belongs in Warhammer 40K
>8 MOA IS WELL WITHIN THE RANGE OF COMBAT EFFECTIVENESS
>parroting lies
The M14 was 5 MOA on the worst guns and most were between 1-2 MOA.
You can literally look this up.
Report on Tests for Ad Hoc Committee on Accuracy and Testing of 7.62mm Ammunition and M14 Rifles. Report No. DPS-741, Dates of Test: 28 September 1961 to 30 January 1962.
“All of the rifles from Winchester and H&R exhibited excessive headspace.
All of the rifles had loose handguards.
Ninety-five percent of the rifles had loose stock bands.
Ninety percent of the rifles had loose gas cylinders.
Seventy-five percent of the rifles had misaligned op rods and gas pistons.
Fifty percent of the rifles had loose op rod guides.
Fifty percent of the rifles had op rods that rubbed the stock.
Three rifles had barrels that exceed the maximum bore dimensions.
Only three rifles had an average bore diameter that fell below the accepted mean diameter.
One rifle was found to have a broken safety, while another had a misassembled safety spring.
One rifle had a misassembled flash suppressor, which was actually contacting bullets during live-fire tests.”
Of course this exact bit gets posted.
Where's the primary source? For something like this it's funny that there is no apparently version of the original online.
It's also funny how the numbers simply don;t add up. 90% of 21 rifles, were they reporting partial failures or fractional rifles?
I am an armorer in the Old Guard and of the 105 M-14s in my Arms Room, literally zero have any of these issues.
Smells like bullshit.
I've got an M21 clone that performs identically to the one Henry uses on the 9hole reviews channel on youtube. It cost me about $3k without the scope. And just like Henry, my buddy's $1.2k AR-10 shot an identical group, right out of the box, as my M21 did. I love my M21. It's cool, but it's novelty.
The M14 and Mini-14 have one giant flaw, when the bolt goes back there's a giant fricking opening that crap can get into.
Also, the M14's operating rod system is exposed, which can get jammed up if debris gets in it.
The Mini-14 fares a bit better because it has a cover over it.
This literally isn't an issue, you're not shooting it during a sandstorm and any other environment it will do just fine in.
but thats the fun part anon
Lmao@Olympia homies
m1911 nibbas are the masterrace
What I never understood with moron caw ah dooty black ops zombies is that why does the M14 get only 8 rounds? Even packapunched you get 16 rounds, it comes standard with a 20 round mag why don’t you give me a 20 round mag?
Gameplay balance
Gotta let Olympiatards feel slightly less inferior.
Balance carryover from WaW, same reason the 1911 does dick all for damage while the CZ blows homies away.
yes but what if shorter
Where am I supposed to put the bayonet?
bayonet belongs on the end of the 590
What if bullpup?
>Find a flaw
I don't own one. that's the only problem.
Well for starters, that poor GI's fingers look like they're about to get smashed once it cycles.
Anyways, perfect for it's intended role in a European ground war against a peer opponent. Not so perfect for some shithole jungle across the world.
Same deal with the M16 and other assault rifles. Perfect for irrelevant terrorist-infested shitholes across the world, not so perfect in peer to peer combat across the open plains of Europe.
The brass will, for some reason or another, never understand this and continue to flip flop that the old way was all wrong despite stellar service in previous conflicts and that the new way was something all those dead dipshits never coulda thought of. We did this with the M16, we're doing this now with the XM5, and we're going to do it again in another 50 to 60 years or so. It's like using horse archers on wide open plains and steppes to great effect, running into a jungle or thickly forested region they can't traverse and aren't effective at, and the generals giving the order to turn all their shitty useless horses across the empire into glue and restructure our forces around foot infantry only. Then when we get fricked up back on the plains, we buy more horses and scrap our footmen. Any sane person might just say "maybe each of these has a niche they fulfill" and assign them each their place.
>Well for starters, that poor GI's fingers look like they're about to get smashed once it cycles.
The manual of arms instructs you to hold those types of rifles like like that. Why? nobody knows but it's common sense to not touch the fast moving metal bit so you won't get hurt and make a mockery of fine American engineering by causing a stoppage (criticizing shit designs is anti American and a threat to our democracy).
I was just commenting on how the guy's finger is on a moving part is all. Can't say I've shot an M14 or M1A myself, but I've been able to frick with the action a little and I know that what his fingertips are on is part of the bolt. At the very least I can assume that raised section behind it with the charging lever is probably going to cut into something as it slams back home, or at least leave a bruise. Maybe it's nothing, but having body parts in a moving machine usually means bad things as far as I know.
It's fine, the most you might do if you're death griping the gun is slow down the oprod which might cause a jam but I never had it happen.
The actual scary bit is far away from the hand.
Same problem on the garand. Rear sight is insufficiently protected.
I like the M14 a lot, but it's gas system is pretty shitty. It's a tiny short stroke piston that can corrode, and you need a special wrench to access it, and it needs to be tightened with a specific torque. M14 is still my favorite of the big three.
>special wrench
Uhhhhh no. A adjustable wrench is all you need.
>Find a flaw
>Protip: you can't
Simple As This OP