Finally, US Marines will have FPV drones

>Marine Corps contracted Rogue-1 FPV drones for 94000 dollars each

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >inb4 thirdies cry about $

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They already did completely unaware this is cheaper than dropping hundreds of thousands in bombs and mortars into nothing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this is cheaper than dropping hundreds of thousands in bombs and mortars into nothing
        It's still WAY more expensive than what is already being successfully used.

        127
        https://www.twz.com/air/rogue-1-is-one-of-the-marine-corps-newest-kamikaze-drone

        [...]
        Ukraine is able to produce most of the parts for FPV locally now (I guess except for some chips and cameras) and those drones are like x100 cheaper than this shit. No one is saying to buy FPV in China, but wasting so much on drones that are meant to be cheap is hilarious.

        >kamikaze
        It's probably cheaper to raise a PLA soldier from birth. You'll need to hit two to get ahead.

        For 94k the anti-infantry spec should have a 40mm launcher and be able to hit point targets, at night, with 200m horizontal standoff.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know
          40mm launcher drones have been tried and rejected by the MIC. Israelis use them for dunking on their fellow browns in cities, no more.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The MIC accepted a 100k suicide drone, I don't accept the authority you're appealing to.

            Economic realities have seen sophisticated drones relegated to observational roles in Ukraine, on both sides. That's tens of thousands of datum, not half+1 moronic boomers in some room debating an emergent technology.

            You need a cheap kamikaze drone, expensive kamikaze drones will make essentially zero battlefield impact.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >For 94k the anti-infantry spec should have a 40mm launcher and be able to hit point targets, at night, with 200m horizontal standoff.
          Just drop nades from drone. No need to reinvented thee bicycle.
          Gun (like M4) on drone can make sense, grenade launcher - no. Just drop nades, gravity exists.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Has to take a loan to call an ambulance

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we can drive ourselves.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sir please take your ID
          >*reaches for ID*
          >"HE HAS A GUN!!!" *BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM*
          >"I have PTSD and need early pension, thanks"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this is the delusional world thirdies live in
            incredible

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This poster unfortunately died of dysentery from drinking his countrys tapwater 🙁

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dont be brown

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This poster unfortunately died of dysentery from drinking his countrys tapwater 🙁

              >this is the delusional world thirdies live in
              incredible

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Left hand on the wheel while stopping your guts from falling out of the gun shot wound with your right hand
          Thank God stick shift doesn't exist in burgerland

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't live in France, I don't have a risk of being randomly shot as a White man.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the government has to raise taxes when he calls an ambulance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >paying 100k on a suicide drone to own le turdies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >100k, Bomb
        😐
        >100k, drone
        >:o

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>100k, Bomb
          That would be equally stupid

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Javelin costs 178,000 per shot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That estimate is 20 years old this point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong
                https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3159196/javelin-replacement-contract-awarded/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$94k
      I feel bad for whoever has to sign for these.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If they actually reach their target at a reasonable rate the price is not that high.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't Americans been capitalists are supposed to be good in economics or something?
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $100k a pop means this will never be a squad level munition as suicide drones should be.

      Those drones do a fraction of what this can do and get btfo by smekalka EW systems who fricking cares.

      >a fraction of what this can do
      You mean hit a target and explode with a small warhead? The effects on target are limited no matter what.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can the off shelf drone do that with EW? No? Sounds like you just wasted money.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          EW is everywhere in Ukraine, yet drones are constantly used in combat. How do you explain that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon you cant be serious... they are used where the EW system isnt.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Show me a section of the front with active combat, where there's no EW going on. You can't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Any drone footage you see comes from a section of the front where there is insufficient EW coverage. If there was sufficient EW coverage, drones wouldn't be able to operate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                or maybe, just maybe, you dont know how EW works

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukies FPV drones are constantly improving AI targeting to counter EW with a fraction addition to the original cost.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That 100k is going to some defense contractor stock options and 401k lmao , it’s more cost effective to use the civilian market and order chinaware from Alibaba in bulk.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it’s more cost effective to use the civilian market and order chinaware from Alibaba in bulk.
          Yeah if you want a bunch of shit that won't work against an advanced military. if you're looking to blow up goatfrickers then your cheap drones will work but against a nation that has EW all your cheap chink shit will just fall out of the sky.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody tell this guy the cost of other squad level munitions that are thrown out like fricking candy. Thirdies can't fight.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or that a dead soldier costs more than 100k for America

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That is point drones absolutely crush these boomers munitions in capability, costing less.

          P.S. Not american drones though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're absolutely fricking moronic if you think your FPV drone is as capable as a Javelin

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It has much more capabilty than Javelin. It has BLOS capability and 10 km range.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Absolute fricking moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. they cry because each dollar we print causes inflation in their shitholes. most don't realize that america can create infinite money and make every american infinitely rich and 3rdies are the ones who eat the inflation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes goyim, disposable FPV drones should cost $94000 each!
      Based MIC milking the US taxpayer dry.

      You are desperately out of touch, China is playing conquest games, the US is playing world police. The US will only go into mainland China for humanitarian crisis reasons after destroying China's economy and logistical networks not to occupy Beijing. You are so clueless, are you a chink?

      You're the delusional one. The chinks suck at waging war and they know it. Also the US is still their largest market, they can't afford to lose it. What they're planning to do is keeping slowly subverting Taïwan like they did with Hong Kong. Only boomers are strongly opposing mainland China. Once they're dead no one will care enough to stop assimilation. As long as both the US and China need each other, nothing more will happen. Think about the Chinese as slanted eyed israelites and everything will become clear.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Article? How many do they plan on getting?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      127
      https://www.twz.com/air/rogue-1-is-one-of-the-marine-corps-newest-kamikaze-drone

      >Noooo why is the US government essentially subsidizing its economy when they could habe given money to China!
      Almost all cost arguements fall flat when almost all the overspending remains in America.

      Ukraine is able to produce most of the parts for FPV locally now (I guess except for some chips and cameras) and those drones are like x100 cheaper than this shit. No one is saying to buy FPV in China, but wasting so much on drones that are meant to be cheap is hilarious.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those drones do a fraction of what this can do and get btfo by smekalka EW systems who fricking cares.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        127 is a prototype run. mass production of these would be magnitudes cheaper.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Noooo why is the US government essentially subsidizing its economy when they could habe given money to China!
    Almost all cost arguements fall flat when almost all the overspending remains in America.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're going to get a lot of morons screeching if you keep pointing that out.
      That said, not sure how much of the money actually goes into the hands of the factory workers and supply chain and all, but still.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It pays the salaries of engineers who buy houses and go on vacation to Disneyworld.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every Component is foreign made.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know Teledyne FLIR's primary business
        Frick off moron.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The end-product will get you nowhere, you are literally paying more to do less. Shit like this will get your guys killed. The whole point of FPV tech is that it is obscenely cost-effective and easy to assemble, no matter how meagre you manufacturing capabilities are. You can just ram the drone into the ground if you want to recall a mission. You can make a very good fpv drone with digi-video and a high capacity battery for less than 5k. If you want extended range - get a 20K octocopter and rig it to act as a carrier or develop an appropriate equivalent if you're as autistic about standartisation as the US is. If you want to keep the drone after completing the mission - make an fpv bomber instead of a kamikaze drone. I personally saw a downed russian 15-inch bomber with digi-video that used optic fiber cable to retain signal quality (only reason it was ever captured was because the operator is a moron and he rammed it into a fir tree whlist strafing, reportedly). There is ZERO reason for an american taxpayer to enable such levels of defence contractor chutzpah. I give it 1-2 years till ISIS and friends start actively attacking western/local troops with drones that are ~45 times cheaper than that golden ingot with rotors in the op. The only possible justification for this thing's existance is being a testbed for development of more cost-effective alternatives in the future (we both now that's not gonna happen).
      >t.yook

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The guy you replied to is just moronic. 100k for a FPV drone when FPV drones cost 2k and explosives are cheap means any reasonable person can figure it out. These same morons who are super interested in military tech but can’t discern a 100k drone is bad tech also are into FP and have horrible takes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are so stupid and focused on literal pennies for the MIC. Go cry about the F35 budget again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have a drone I have an ar 15. If they started selling ar 15s for 100k you would understand. Perhaps you are a huge genius and in just moronic. Hope we see cheap drones for bombing third worlders. The hundreds of millions of brown people aren’t just gonna kill themselves in the Aryan English speaking global coup.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its called a Predator drone, we've done this for decades and yet the world somehow forgot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The predator is one of most expensive planes to maintain and fly and a hell fire is 20k a shot. Were you implying that was cheap? I realize now everyone in this thread is a distracted finals week high schooler. Nobody is brown or third world everybody is American here but the little kids with no money think 100k for a single use drive is fine because they have never flown their own personal drone or whatever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But maybe it’s really worth it and it goes extra far or something. Hope I’m wrong but I never am

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hell fire is 20k a shot
                They are70k-100k a missile. They have 5 mile range. travel at mach1, and have a 20lbs warhead. There are videos of apaches running out of chaingun ammo and using hellfires to kill individual taliban soldiers.

                These new drones have a range of 6miles, travel at 70mph, and have a loiter time of 30 minutes. They probably come with a suite of anti EW that you don't get with your cheap ukraine drones and HD cameras that can see for miles and thermals.

                The more they build the lower their cost will be. Right now the cost is counting the r&d as well. These drones aren't being developed to fight sand people but countries like russia and china where they have advanced EW. They use reaper drones (which cost $32million) to kill targets with hellfires (which again cost 70k+) so the cost isn't terribad especially for the US. And again, the more they build the cheaper they get. Hellfires when they first came out use to cost twice as much as they do now if you count inflation. And they have been upgraded throughout the years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The more they build the lower their cost will be
                sure, but if they used commercial off-the-shelf components of the highest industry standards they could buy like 50 times as many.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >off-the-shelf components
                They wouldn't be autonomous, have anti-EW suites, high res optics, thermals, and probably radar or infrared terrain hugging guidance. "off the shelf components" don't have the same capabilities. Those cheap drones become worthless if the enemy has jammers or other EQ capabilities. And the cameras on the ukraine drones are shit. Just adding thermal cameras to a drone costs thousands of dollars and that's for lower end thermals too. Plus you need a more expensive battery to power all this shit. The drones ukraine and russia use have no loiter time at all.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh pennies
            Pennies add up. If you wanted to provision these for most squad sized elements + have reserves, you quickly add into double digit billions, which the MIC is never going to spend on this. That's a material advantage for anyone who actually invests in casting a wide net with cheap drones.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your cheap drones dont work on first world EW

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They work in Russia.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Surely you are not trying to imply China and Russia are first world. I agree let’s prepare for a peer but let’s be real. DJI tier stuff would eat up Chinese infantryman the same way they do Russian I’m sure. The budget for good equipment got spent on dog meat banquets and no harsh punishment because dog meat banquet thrower is the son of Xis string puller or whatever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Once you've done the R&D, AI, terrain tracking and such have the implementation price of a phone chip. There's absolutely no reason for EW provisions to cost 90k.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            America cant make 100000 of those and send them to Ukraine. America is too poor to afford that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ukraine is too stupid to use our F35s is why. Stop thinking your idiotic caveman war is intelligent.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >100k for a FPV drone when FPV drones cost 2k and explosives are cheap means any reasonable person can figure it out.
          I can understand 100K for an FPV drone, but why make it a suicide drone? Why can't it just drop payload and RTB?

          Probably just a way to israelite up the stats, making it a one-way mission doubles the range on paper

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but why make it a suicide drone
            because it prints money duh

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            US Generals saw suicide drones in Ukraine and wanted one instead of a baby predator with 20mm rockets.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im not going to listen to morons who think WW1 is a good playbook and send people into minefields. Again all your non Americans are just poor and cant comprehend purchasing power.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This war is good Litmus test of what works and what doesn't.
          HIMARs works.
          Abrams doesn't.
          Spamming missiles from helicopters staying behinds frontlines in defense works (say bye-bye to your Leopards)
          Sending helicopters across frontlines to suppress enemy doesn't.
          etc etc.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can I get a link to a helicopter kill? All I’ve seen are helps getting shot down or impotently blowing their loads for arcing fire which presumably hits nothing. Both sides are cucked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Drone tech and arty are the reasons the war has devolved into WW1 in the first place, moron. If this shit enters service, american military will be the ones playing Verdun against an oppontent who can outspam your drones. FPV drone is not a tank, Black person, it's a munition, you can't achieve western MBT quantity-to-quality ratio for an FPV drone. Imagine if soviets reverse engineered a sidewinder and ended up with an AA-2 Atoll that costs 50 times more than the original, but with slightly higher specs, this is what you're shilling for right now. I swear to God, GWOT has mind-raped America harder than the Vietnam war ever could, no sense of apprehension whatsoever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're going to get a lot of morons screeching if you keep pointing that out.
      That said, not sure how much of the money actually goes into the hands of the factory workers and supply chain and all, but still.

      It pays the salaries of engineers who buy houses and go on vacation to Disneyworld.

      Buying overly priced stuff merely for the sake of keeping people employed at inflated salaries is so fricking stupid, the concept entered the English dictionary as a synonym for stupidity

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >increasingly bitter group of shills circling the wagons harder every thread
    yawn

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    And here they are.
    Good morning sir!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moronic american turdies screeching because they know they are paying 10 times of what the thing actually costs

      stop coping shill

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do turdies project everything all the time?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$90k for bushings
    >morons defend this

    ?t=75
    even indians are smarter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bribe or friend contract or some shit. I imagine there's quite a lot of it unfortunately, and there's not usually a way to do shit about it.
      How did Sig keep winning contracts after the P320 stuff?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminds me of the $30,000 1.5cm locknut from the Eurofighter

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no booth milf gf

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope that includes the training, design and tooling costs because a first world kamikaze ought to cost about $15k in parts plus some assembly - definitely no more than $20k.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It includes all those things, yes.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    DO NOT REDEEM THE US ENGINEER SALARY SAAR BLOODY BENCHOD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

      turdie shills still seething

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Empty copying of insults without understanding what turdie means
        Its Indua time

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda big for an fpv bomber

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a completely different set of design goals. Americans have infinite anti-tank weapons. This is a weapon for dunking on browns with low collateral damage. For example, the warhead to total weight ratio: a peer combat anti-infantry infantry-carried support drone would be about 5lb, this is meant to be something you can bring back to save costs if the terrorist wasn't home that day.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100K doraritos

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Attention all third worlders, Ill give an American a hundred grand before I even consider giving you a single cent

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Empty copying of insults without understanding what turdie means
      Its Indua time

      OK third worlder, pay for your non existent health care

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im not in a village in India though

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >its a jobs program.
    The frick it is. That wealth does NOT trickle down to the workers.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Being this mad government money is being spent on stem workers instead of your cousins
    Confirmed for projecting poo

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >none of the turtle tanks been hit by an fpv?
    cope cage + EW hit by thermal FPV https://t.me/ssternenko/28143
    turtle tank hit by AI drone https://t.me/ssternenko/27954

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Indians think people in other countries shit in the street too

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why don't they just buy a DJI and put their own chips in?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This shit better have a targeting AI and massive range for 100k a pop.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't the best batteries can do for a drone 1 hour? No way it’ll get that much range to cover that 97k on the face of it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >massive range
      10 km

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It has the first part.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >massive range
      10 km

      It has a range of 6 miles, goes 70mph, and has a 30 minute battery life. It only weighs 10 pounds so the warhead can't be that big. In comparison the hellfire can go mach 1, has a range of 5 miles, and carries a 20lbs warhead and costs 120k. So if you're attacking soft targets you're saving 30k plus you don't need a $32million drone to carry your missile.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have to cost that much for a reason. The optics, thermals, and radar seeking sensors that are leagues above whatever shit we keep seeing out of ukraine. It also probably has anti-EW suites with self-healing autonomous AI that can fly back to where it came from and be recovered if compromised or damaged. Just strapping a shitty webcam and bomb on a commercial drone probably has no where near the capabilities of this thing.

    They designed it to go against a real threat like China where they have actual EW and jamming capabilities unlike russias bullshit they have been operating. A hellfire cost 120k and just has a range of 5 miles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It costs that much because they're only building 127 of them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suicide drones dont need top of the like optics and internals. Literally the point of them is that they are cheap and able to be mass produced and thrown at the enemy en mass. “Survivability” or worrying about the multi role capacity of an fpv drone designed to fly into something and blow it up is a fricking moron concept and an absolutely classic example of feature and design creep

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        being able to see further in more detail is clearly and advantage. It's better to spot your target a mile awhile before they can do anything about it instead of having to get right into their face. It was also designed to loiter, which means you are scanning for targets. Higher resolution makes that easier. Being able to detect enemies at night with thermals would also be a huge advantage.

        And being immune to EW is extremely important to it's effectiveness. If you build a bunch of cheap drones that get taken down by jammers you won't be able to do shit. China has advanced EW countermeasures that would make your cheap drones worthless.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People criticize the cost of US tech but then they are surprised that it actually works as advertised. It's why US warships can shoot down missiles and drones with ease while germany failed miserably. You get what you pay for.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >comms silence mode
        Are these terrain-following cameras?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dollars each
    i still haven't seen a source for any price

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "259 millions for less than 5000 drones in 5 years" for the program Organic Organic Precision Fires-Light, there isn't more details except for Teledyne the following:
      >Teledyne FlLIR Defense said it will deliver an initial order of 127 Rogue 1s to the Marines later this summer for testing and evaluation. The initial delivery order is valued at $12 million, or about $94,000 per drone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        249 million dollars*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i just don't understand why posting the link to the source was so difficult in the first place

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1. I'm not OP
          2. You're a lazy bastard like

          https://i.imgur.com/xwYKNPf.jpeg

          >Marine Corps contracted Rogue-1 FPV drones for 94000 dollars each

          , use the search engine.

          https://www.flir.com/news-center/military/Teledyne-FLIR-Defense-Awarded-$249-Million-IDIQ-Contract-for-U.S.-Marine-Corps-Organic-Precision-Fires-Light-Program/
          https://www.govconwire.com/2024/04/marine-corps-selects-3-vendors-for-249m-organic-precision-fires-light-system-development-contract/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did search for it.

            My point stands, I don't see why gays can't just link sources

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a potential eight-year, $249 million contract to build, test, support and deliver a non-developmental item
    >consist of the loitering munition, related ground control station, training simulator and ancillary equipment needed to support the technology, according to the statement of work.

    The vendors will also provide program management, quality assurance, systems engineering and logistics support to ensure that delivery schedules and performance requirements related to the OPF-L system are met under the indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract
    >the indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract
    >the indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract
    >the indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract
    The cost complaints are a nothingburger.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can Fix Her

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dollars each
    I'm not usually one to complain about MIC grift because it's kinda like pork barrel politics where they build bridges to nowhere etc.
    Unlike the pointless bridges I can't even figure out who is supposed to get all this money outside of fat cats stealing like 95% of it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AGAIN YOU FRICKING IDIOTS 99% OF THIS MONEY STAYS WITHIN THE COUNTRY ITS A JOBS PROGRAM YOU ROOM TEMPERATURE IQ moronS THE PEOPLE MAKING BANK OFF THE STOCKS ALSO GET TAXED AND THE MONEY GETS REDISTRIBUTED WE ARE LITERALLY PAYING AND TAXING MONEY MULTIPLE TIMES OVER TO BOOST ECONOMIC NUMBERS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They cried about the F35 budget
      They cried about the Patriot Budget
      They cried about ATACMS/HIMARS Costs
      They cry about having to use toilets

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You are beyond hope anon, good luck seething at the next US project, you complain about the costs always and then shut the frick up when you see results.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Look into a post complaining about US military spending
    >Its a third worldist shitting on America in general

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder every US citizen including babies has paid 200 dollars towards our F22 fleet. You can clearly see the foreigners seething.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey guys I think Bradleys cost too much as well, maybe the Russians are onto something with those golf carts if FPV drones are so cheap and unstoppable. Also maybe adopting anal rape tactics will harden our soldiers. Amazing what we can learn from the third world.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they should buy cheaper drones and a lot more of them. also have them made from off the shelf parts so companies can compete for contracts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >unlicensed companies making weapons
      Its literally terrorism.

      Once you've done the R&D, AI, terrain tracking and such have the implementation price of a phone chip. There's absolutely no reason for EW provisions to cost 90k.

      >AI, terrain tracking and such have the implementation price of a phone chip.
      Not just price, actually phone chips are good hardware for run this software , all those Snapdragon processors.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >intelligent and well reasoned discussion of munitions economics triggers shrieking
    Let me guess, you think used toilet paper goes in the trash can and your tap water isn’t safe to drink?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If China gets nuked there will be no need for further actions.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    yeah and china has 500 nukes and growing rapidly. Starting a nuclear war with china is moronic.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DOD chutzpah enablers be like:
    >Yeah this is a flying hunk of gold with 10km range for almost double the price of a Switchblade 300, but hey this piece of shit is reusable and also we're rich and muh jerbs or something, so there's nothing bad in letting ourselves be fricked over and losing the numbers game should we enter a near-peer conflict.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >near-peer conflict.
      >thinking chink shit drones are equal to this thing.
      You get what you pay for. They haven't even released the capabilities of it and you're all just assuming it's comparable to a cheap commercial drone with a grenade stuck to it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking chink shit drones are equal to this thing.
        There's no need for chinks to make them such. In current dronegay meta, it's all about the numbers and simplicity.
        >They haven't even released the capabilities of it and you're all just assuming it's comparable to a cheap Commercial drone with a grenade stuck to it.
        I used specs from this vid

        It literally does the same thing as Switchblade 300 but for double the price.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What meta? Oh you mean shitty slav war with WW1 tactics and welded together shitboxes not an actual conflict...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's not a war until i say so!
            What 20 years of COIN does to a mf

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So is China going to fight the US with no air force or navy and just fpv drones?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it means China or it's proxies will have an upper hand the moment american boots touch the ground. Good luck holding Shanghai or any other city for that matter with these sof toys whilst being cucked by ROE in accordance to the old american tradition of bending the knee to pseudo-humanitarian, pacifist swine back at home. My point is, if there's going to be another falujah or it's equivalent in our timeline, expect lots of shiny veneered boxes arriving in your town.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So China is just betting on the US invading them and not just smacking them with missiles?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good luck holding any territory with missile strikes. If the chinks were to land in Taiwan, how are you planning to flush them out?

                >american boots touch the ground.
                There won't be a shanghai by the time american boots touch the ground. They will be bombarded by hundreds of stealth bombers and thousands of tomahawk missiles.

                And all those FPV drones china has will be shut down hard by the RQ180 EW capabilities.

                Anon, we both know that american command would rather feed 10 of it's soldiers feet first into the woodchipper rather than catch bad publicity for turning a sandniglet into a meat smoothie as a collateral. Stop daydreaming, there will be another generation of pacifist filth crowding your cities begging to spare the poor chinx and whining about western imperialism, and (the parts of) your oh-so benevolent government will bend the knee to secure their votes (democracy moment). I'm as moderate as it gets, but even i have to acknowledge that there is much work to be done with western governments if we are to impose our interests on the rest of the world, or at least stay on top of the food chain.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are desperately out of touch, China is playing conquest games, the US is playing world police. The US will only go into mainland China for humanitarian crisis reasons after destroying China's economy and logistical networks not to occupy Beijing. You are so clueless, are you a chink?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not talking about war with China i'm talking about quality over quantity mindset being unsuitable for FPV drone procurement. A 94K$ log of COINshit is never gonna make it in near-peer war. It doesn't matter who exactly you're fighting, Iran, NK, chinks, ziggers or fricking Bhutan this thing is unreasonably pricey compared to it's opponents, who'll be able to shit out swarms of their own drones for fraction of the cost. The fricking EW doesn't matter, small drones are way too cost-effective for that. You put together 17 decent drones for the price of equipment used by a single US marine, and 94 for the price of the FLIR's chutzpahcopter and it takes 1(one) drone to take the marine out. An FPV drone should be as disposable as a 40mm grenade, not a fricking hellfire missile.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The US doesn't need to spam FPV drones to kill hordes of infantry because unlike Ukraine we have stockpiles of the tungsten bb shells of death, these are tactical drones.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The US doesn't need to spam FPV drones to kill hordes of infantry
                Instead US plans to spam marines and Abraham tanks...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ???

                > because unlike Ukraine we have stockpiles of the tungsten bb shells of death, these are tactical drones.
                homie, you can't aim them, if all your frontline infantry is fricking dead, and yeah, tell me about US tactical drones

                ???

                They aren't sending their best shills folks I can't even respond to this ESL nonsense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > because unlike Ukraine we have stockpiles of the tungsten bb shells of death, these are tactical drones.
                homie, you can't aim them, if all your frontline infantry is fricking dead, and yeah, tell me about US tactical drones

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                frick all of you israelites, this is why the MIC will never lower their prices.
                It's because of homosexuals like you who keep sucking circumcised wiener.

                turdies are still seething about "muh cost" lmao
                you'll never be a buyer of any of these systems but you'll much more likely be on the receiving end of them. the us gov literally prints money so it costs them nothing. keep seething.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                israelite lover

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Something, something good times, weak men, hard times

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's the neat thing about defensive wars. You don't need to occupy the enemy's country. You just need to make them go back there. The survivors, that is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >american boots touch the ground.
                There won't be a shanghai by the time american boots touch the ground. They will be bombarded by hundreds of stealth bombers and thousands of tomahawk missiles.

                And all those FPV drones china has will be shut down hard by the RQ180 EW capabilities.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shanghai is going to get levelled by submarine-launched cruise missiles while you stand ankle deep in the surf shrieking that we should 1v1 you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          switchblades can be brought down by jamming and EW. We beed a drone capable of defending itself from those kind of defenses. I don't know of the rogue 1 has those capabilities or not but at that price it's gotta be doing something special. The rogue 1 can also be recovered if you can't find a target.

          There's just too much we don't know about it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kino marketing is how you make money. The bombs they carry should be patented and cost 100k each on top, otherwise they'd be stupid.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Mental illness, the post
    Go jerk off over a DJI with an rpg-7 warhead duct taped to it accomplishing nothing for Ukraine strategically, its cheap so it must be good and beneficial!

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Battletech moment inbound

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Procument officer decides they need to operate in all known environments on the planet without fail 99.9% of the time
    >Another one decides they need to be datalinked into the sensor network
    >Another one says they have to be EW hardened
    >Yet another says they need onboard facial recognition
    >And a HDMI camera
    >And autonomous return/way point nav
    >At 50 mile range
    >All components must be made in the US and pass extremely rigorous testing
    >Price must include all maintenance, support, auxiliary equipment for the planned shelf life of any drone
    It's like you don't understand how military procurement programs work. Of course you also don't understand indoor plumbing, so I guess asking some basic critical thinking is too much.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We'll see. They certainly have a lot of big problems to solve in the near future, but who doesn't.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    based on historical precedent it'll be civil war

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick all of you israelites, this is why the MIC will never lower their prices.
    It's because of homosexuals like you who keep sucking circumcised wiener.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    surely they're must be some sort of middle ground between cheap $1k drones and grifter $100k drones?

    say... $10k drones?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      5-7k would be ideal for a kamikaze drone. Locally produced parts, digial and thermal videofeeds, AI targeting and a good battery with a sprinkle of Arleigh Burke-teir standardization is completely achieveable for that sum. 94k is a robbery, the Black folk that developed that shit should stick to coal fire spotting with their fancy-ass thermals.

      [...]
      turdies are still seething about "muh cost" lmao
      you'll never be a buyer of any of these systems but you'll much more likely be on the receiving end of them. the us gov literally prints money so it costs them nothing. keep seething.

      >The DoD shill brags about xir nation's riches as xhe is about to get scammed again.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not something like this packed with as much compound and fragmentation material as possible, a single drone operator could carry around a shit ton.

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