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so wild how good arabs are at asymmetric combat and so bad at organized warfare. Its like a genetically imbued military learning disability
Why are you so scared of Iran then
nobody is scared of them they just don't want they to have nukes and the israelites will nuke them first before that happens
I had this conversation with my father the other day. I wouldn’t be suprised if they nuked Iran first. If Iran is willing to nuke Tel Aviv at all costs even if it means all of Iran is glassed. The only logical thing to do would be minimize the amount of death. (Annihilating Iran preemptively)
We’re not scared of them, we just really, really, really don’t want to have to deal with them.
I'm slowly coming around to the idea that we bomb them back to the 18th century and just leave.
>and just leave
Then get out of the region, stop israeliteing and causing troubles and pain
Fair, as soon as they stop trying to israelite the world with their oil
US and Israel are like a pack of theiving rioting naggers
I'm not scared of Iran. I just believe in colonialism and don't think brown people should be allowed to rule themselves. Iran is the rightful clay of British Petroleum.
Iran broke away from their CIA dictatorship, and hated them ever since.
Iranians aren't Arabs. They're more in common with Eastern Euros in the Balkans.
>Iranians aren't Arabs. They're more in common with Eastern Euros
they're fucking pure Aryan whites, the clue is in the name
>they're fucking pure Aryan whites
there is no reason to, iran is doing extremely well right now operating several regional proxies, and cooperating with russia and china. in an open war, iran would be decimated. it has many minorities and a huge number of moderates who would rebel the second major government institutions are bombed and mullahs' rule is disrupted.
but, US is very cucked rn, and anti war sentiment is too high. and the downside of democratic countries is that they have to consider public opinion.
if iran makes a mistake and attacks us...
or if "iran" makes a mistake and attacks us...
You did get attacked. See the OP
>or if "iran" makes a mistake and attacks us...
won't work, even another 9/11 wouldn't matter because conservatives hate city liberals and a large chunk would probably laugh at them dying. At this point the US is way too fractured culturally for a Pearl Harbor or 9/11 to work again
Noone is scared of Iran.
But you see, if big bad USA would swat Iran like a fly, it'd look really bad politically.
You have to kill your enemy when your people want it too, not sooner
>all the cope replies
Ameri/k/ans cannot compute that their military lacks recruits and cannot invade a country like Iran without reintroducing the draft because Zoomers will not enlist.
Anon, they shot down a low and slow drone with a MANPADS, that's not particularly implessive, they've been shooting down much harder to hit targets since a lot earlier, just ask the Russians about their stint in Afghan.
I don’t think you can take down a predator with a man pad
Why not? If it's low enough
Bro. It's a self-flying cessna with a camera.
Should've looked it up first, it was a SA-6, makes it even less implessive given the capabilities of Kub. Speaks more to poor mission planning than anything else
Navy is headed by some woman now. The drone was probably meant to be “sacrificed” or some shit on purpose for policy reasons.
The individual chiefs of staff haven't had operational control of troops for nearly 40 years now.
>they shot down a low and slow drone with a MANPADS,
they're tribesmen about four steps away from the stone age, I'd be equally impressed if an oz abo did the same, its like watching animals do algebra
Or a nagger trying to bait
It's organizational. Any individual human group can become skilled enough to successfully destroy an individual military target, but actually organizing a large number of groups to all operate under a hierarchy, shared doctrine, and towards shared goals is a nightmare even for real militaries. See Allies in WW2.
>Any individual human group can become skilled enough to successfully destroy an individual military target, but actually organizing a large number of groups
interesting proposition, but Big Mo managed to unite the arabs as a fighting force an conquer about 1/3 of teh known world in 100 years. What's the secret sauce to making arabs co-operate militarily?
>brown people should be allowed to rule themselves. Iran
Persians are white, stupid. pure bred Aryan stock
If persians are White, why are they brown?
As I recall, the ottomans operated under a pretty strict internal hierarchy that kept everyone in their place.
The Turks aren't Arabs.
>good at asymmetric combat
They shot a slow-ass prop drone chilling out over the Red Sea. There's a reason why the FAA prohibits commercial carriers from flying over that shithole
>100 million down the drain
Gonna need multiple trips to MacDonald to wash down that one
$32m, or $0.09 for every US taxpayer (not that that's how govt expenditures work). Why do turdworlders have such a hard time grasping how meaningless this is?
I am in support of nuking the responsible party for the low price of $1.09 for their part in costing me $0.09
>thinks 100m is a lot of money to the US
Thirdie spelling detected, opinion rejected
>a slow-ass prop drone
a US airborne asset on an active mission shouldn't be that easy to down even if it was Dick Dastardly and Muttley piloting a hot air balloon
why wouldn't a loitering, unmanned recon drone with an xboxhueg RCS be easy to shoot down?
The whole point of drones is that they're expendable
The only two things you need to be "good" at asymmetric warfare is determination and population
>Its like a genetically imbued military learning disability
More like a culturally imbued disability.
National army, is intentionally gimped to prevent military coup by disloyal officers. Some tribal insurgency is loyal by default because tribal loyalty.
These are better
I like the chocolate one
the Hispanicy lime ones are good
sweet corn is garbage
choco churro is better
but gets kind of same-y after a while. at least its at costco so you can get it easily.
No confirmation by the government, yet
>Iran is tangentially mentioned on reddit
>dozens of comments about "proportional response"
>replies that link to the reddit man youtube video
>every single time
It's so fucking cringe reading their retarded comments. Are most Americans like this or does reddit just attract subhumans?
Its both. The boomers here being tech illiterate facebook reply-guys and the zoomers having decades of gutted education + lifelong social media addiction means a ton of the US public is essentially powerless against astroturfing and bot swarms, as we've seen the past few years of culture war hysteria. So in hivemind cesspools like reddit it makes a negative feedback loop of spambots and idiots.
>Russian retards thought a drone was invincible because it is American
>Shits themselves when they realize it's not invincible, it's just they that are so much more incompetent in comparison it might as well be
>afghanistan is a caveman country full of illiterate people
>fail to eliminate the taliban after 20 years of bombings
>"hehe, I bet we could take over a caveman country that's 2.5x bigger with 100x the technology"
>hehe you couldnt conquer our proud country, the best you could do is topple our government in weeks and make us hide in caves for 20 years till you get bored and leave!
comparing yourself to afghanistan is not the own you think it is achmed
>get bored and leave!
yeah get bored of spending 2 trillion dollars on bombs and drones and failing to kill off the taliban
>spending 2 trillion dollars on bombs and drones
how do you think America supports its middle classs? Afghanistan bought more mid-range SUVs and in-ground pools than even the F-35 did. It's all gravy, baby, we just need some poor gormless retards to drop the bombs on, nobody gonna miss em, its not like they have PTA or library trustee meetings to go to
>he thinks conventional wars are comparable to insurgencies
Brainlet. And the problem with the taliban wasn't killing them, it's that no matter how many you killed they could simply refill their numbers in neighboring Pakistan with impunity.
I'm going to post a pasta I saw.
Taliban 'victory' is like this
>You're in your house with your wife
>Suddenly Chad breaks it
>You feebly try to protect your home and wife
>He backhand slaps you and you crumple in a heap
>He marches over to your wife unbuckling his belt
>You crawl as fast as you can to your bedroom closet
>As the sounds of moaning and plapping can be heard around the house you grumble to yourself 'Y-y-you didn't kill me, so I'm winning!'
>Chad does this for 20 (TWENTY) years in your house, your only attempts to stop him ravaging your mindbroken wife are you running from your closet with a fly swatter and slapping his bare muscular arse with it then running up stairs to your closet again all the while laying marbles and LEGO bricks on the floor to make it not worth the effort to come get you
>After 20 years of this, Chad decides to up and leave, waves goodbye to the 16 year old kid he had with your wife and says he is in charge now, try to look after the place
>Once Chad is out of sight and over the hill, you run downstairs with your fly swatter and start beating the shit out of the 16 year old kid
>Once he is a crumpled heap on the floor you plant your foot on his back and go 'VICTORY! I BEAT CHAD! I AM THE GREATEST"
>You then promptly start to starve and your wife wishes Chad was back because at least he provided food
>You send the occasional letter to Chad asking for food
This is exactly how the war went.
holy fucking shit, that's a fucking perfect analogy. well done whomever wrote that originally.
Chad is such a dick.
>eliminating the taliban
Based retard. The goal was to eliminate al-Qaeda, the Taliban were merely collateral because they were guarding members of al-Qaeda.
>the more technological and modern you are, the more successful you are in cave dwelling
doesn't work this way, retard. iranians are not cavemen, they aren't taliban. mullahs won't be hiding in mountain caves for 20 years with RPGs.
their regime is weak and almost crumbled due just a few years ago with some unarmed demonstrators.
I don't think we'd even try to occupy and rebuild Iran, just bomb the shit out of them ala Serbia.
>100x the technology
You mean export-model Mig-29As and F-14s that haven't been upgraded since the 1970s? Somehow, I think we'll be ok.
As if the US was ever gonna conquer afghanistan in earnest.
The point was to strip americans of a trillion dollars and it worked flawlessly. And sure we had a little intermission with ukraine, but that just gives us the opportunity to do it again. Americans would take a payday loan for a drivethrough meal before they realize they ended up poorer than ever.
Excuse to air strike, all good. America needs to pull it's dick out and show it to the world occasionally. We need to bomb something they think we don't have the balls to bomb. Dropping a couple airstrikes in Iran would be a good idea.
>Russia destroys US drone
>US goes 'u-unprofessional!'
>proceeds to block further aid to Ukraine
>Russia laughs its head off and mocks NATO equipment in their recruitment ads as they know the spigot has well and truly turned off for Ukraine now
>Houthi's shoot down US drone
Gee, I wonder what the result is going to be of this? An actual strike to show they can't do that? Some actual retaliation? Removing high command assets of the Houthis? No, it'll be
>We are deeply concerned by...
And then go back to arguing over stupid shit while $30m is left to rust in the sea.
Dunno why we've gotten so fucking pussy whipped. I dunno if our lack of hardline commitment to Ukraine has made everybody think we're pussies so they can do this shit or Biden doesn't want to do shit because he can't rock the boat before 2024 and he just wants to 'See the campaign out'. I dunno any more. The cope will be
>Well it's only a drone, who cares
It's about the statement from these people. Russia's attack forced our drones to fly further out.
>blocks further aid to Ukraine
This didn't happen though. What's more, after the initial incident, Russia stopped harassing nominally neutral aircraft
gonna play devils avacado here, pretty sure they blocked an aid package of some billions because they didn't want it as part of some other package and it hasn't actually gone through yet and the only assistance since has been $400m or so in some more weapons, rather than the big $xbn that Zelensky wanted to use to buy US equipment with.
Yes but that's because congress couldn't resolve a budget, not because of outside influences
Well you see, bombing the Middle East usually causes economic turmoil at home, and the American populace already perceives the US economy to be shit. Biden is worried about winning re-election and doesn't want more shocks to the economy. Now, if America was some strongman third-world dictatorship, then I guess he could start carpet bombing Tehran and Sanaa because be wouldn't have to care about the living conditions of the plebs.
I wish trader joes still carried those, they were gigabased
Why the FUCK are they using conventional drones in contested airspace? The Houthis shot reapers down like 5 times before. Where are the RQ-180s and Avengers? Where are the reaper's chaff/flare pods?
The US isn't building any new reaper you know. May as well use them until they break/shot down
I swear, the US is willing to let these drones be downed just for an excuse to bomb shitskins and amp up support for Ukraine.
it's a fair downing
the us did shoot down their drones and cruise missiles before this.
I'll never pay respects to a dirty dr*ne
(I know it's a reaper, shut up. It's the same sentiment)
My 99th filter, about to reach 100, boys.
What was used to down it?
FUCK TIMMY GON DO?
>Be drone operator
>Sitting in an air conditioned room in nevada
>Half asleep watching my drone fly itself over the middle east
>Screen goes black
>Ah damn. Lets break for lunch while they prep our next one for takeoff
What weapons system took this down?
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