We christianized Korea and it led to tons of heretical cults that now have real political power in Korea and Japan. The same almost happened in Japan if it wasn't for Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Much later it almost happened again in China with the Taiping Rebellion. A christian monarchy that existed in the Chinese heartland for 13 years starting 1851. The last one might have been better than what we ended up with though
>The last one might have been better than what we ended up with though
Yeah, nah, the Taiping made freakin' Mao look positively peaceful and well-adjusted.
Not a Sinoboo or anything but Chinese history is interesting. >who should rule China right now and why
The Republic obviously. >Why
Because democracy and parliamentary republics will lead to peace and "The End of History".
>Chinese history is interesting
I was at the museum in Taipei looking at some warring states era weapons. Overheard a japanese tourist next tot me say to his friend "This is just like in Kingdom!!". I considered saying something but my autistic ass just chuckled internally and moved on
>Because democracy and parliamentary republics will lead to peace and "The End of History"
Gay, retarded, and immediately dismissed.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>.t bootlicker
1 month ago
Anonymous
Same logic.
Anyone who invokes "The End of History"™ for any purpose other than citing the historical moment is immediately branded a retard. Especially for assuming that representative government will somehow lead us to a utopia. Every form of government is deeply-flawed, the seeds of its own destruction sown at the founding. To look at the arc of history and see anything else is to be willfully blind.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Name any moment in human history other than now where there has been more peace in the world?
1 month ago
Anonymous
This has been the bloodiest century in human history, retard.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Didn't Genghis Khan's horde wipe out something like 20% of the world's current population?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
One of the most incorrect statements ever made on this board. Refrain from ever calling someone else a retard again
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Post your gun fag.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
well he's only one century off
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>This has been the bloodiest century in human history, retard.
lol you're stupid
1 month ago
Anonymous
Democracies are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't. >Inb4 but white people
Even the nastiest, niggiest, big-lipped, tar babbys of nagger nations do better under liberal democratic systems than any other form of government.
1 month ago
Anonymous
How long has democracy been around, though?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Even more reason to say that it's better. In thousands of years of all kinds of governments, none managed to make the world into a virtual paradise like the one you live in today.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Paradise
This is a nightmare world and everyone with a shred of decency is praying daily for its collapse.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're talking to strangers through a magic box. You can get food at any time and there is zero chance of you being enslaved by a conquering army. You live in the one of the best nations at one of the best times in human history. You live in paradise and wish for hell simply because you have no idea what that other world is like. You are a pampered child with angst, nothing more.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, give him economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself--as though that were so necessary-- that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar. And that is not all: even if man really were nothing but a piano-key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of simple ingratitude, simply to gain his point. And if he does not find means he will contrive destruction and chaos, will contrive sufferings of all sorts, only to gain his point! He will launch a curse upon the world, and as only man can curse (it is his privilege, the primary distinction between him and other animals), may be by his curse alone he will attain his object--that is, convince himself that he is a man and not a piano-key! If you say that all this, too, can be calculated and tabulated--chaos and darkness and curses, so that the mere possibility of calculating it all beforehand would stop it all, and reason would reassert itself, then man would purposely go mad in order to be rid of reason and gain his point! I believe in it, I answer for it, for the whole work of man really seems to consist in nothing but proving to himself every minute that he is a man and not a piano-key!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>there is zero chance of you being enslaved by a conquering army
Where the fuck did you come up with that?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
This was a real risk for most people throughout most of the world in human history. You might even get sacrificed.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know that, I'm asking why you don't think that's a possibility today?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because presumably you live in a western liberal democracy. You live in one of the most enviable time and place in human history.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay that's all well and good, but that's by no means a guarantee that shit won't go south. Maybe not next week, that'd be a pretty epic collapse, but getting wrecked by an invader and living the rest of my life in a vassal state is not an unreasonable fear.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
What country?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
this abominable world certainly needs mending but a collapse wouldn't fix anything, countless innocents would die and those still alive be taken by warlords.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Democracy predates humanity. Pretty much every social creature actively decides what to do based on the will of the majority. Some even go so far as to have votes where they fucking sneeze or some stupid shit, and if enough of them sneeze it's time to hunt.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Even the nastiest, niggiest, big-lipped, tar babbys of nagger nations do better under liberal democratic systems
AKA, the ones that are receiving gibsmedats from western nations.
>Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere.
Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard. The system of government does not matter. Pre-WW2 Nazi germany had a better standard of living than the 1st or 2nd Reich. Why? Industrialization. The ROC and PRC are also materially much better off than they were before they industrialized. Industrialization is very difficult, if not impossible, under a democracy. In fact, Japan was pretty much never a democracy. The idea that you can simply vote yourself into being materially and financially better off is ludicrous. It takes mass co-ordination, scale, political and social control, the right conditions, an educated populace, and many other factors, many of which democracy is ill-suited to provide. >but the US did it
Only 2 political parties for over a century, not a real democracy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard
So why isn't China as prosperous as the US? Why isn't Russia? Why isn't North Korea? Those are all industrialized nations, and yet living there sucks. This is anti-liberal cope.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
3rd Reich; Yes I'm sure having a national butter shortage as front page news pre-WW2 was a sign of a great standard of living.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Democracies are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't.
Republics.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You realize that's like saying a square is better than a rectangle, right?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
A square has a consistent ratio and symmetry. Rectangles are comparatively chaotic.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet a square is a rectangle.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
correct. tards like the anon you replied to are the same ones who promote every tard having a say in our lives.
You realize that's like saying a square is better than a rectangle, right?
a smooth brain would say something so retarded. got any more glorious insights?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
correct. tards like the anon you replied to are the same ones who promote every tard having a say in our lives.
[...]
a smooth brain would say something so retarded. got any more glorious insights?
are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't. >Republics. >correct
Respublica and democratia are the same word from the different languages you fucking retards and they mean the same thing.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Word meanings change over thousands of years and "republic" and "democracy" do in fact have different definitions in American English, which is the common language of this website.
I ain't really a history major, I just found a list of bloodiest wars in China and holy shit, the Taiping killed more chinese people than the KMT, commies and Japs combined during the 30's and 40's, and over a shorter timeframe.
>who should rule China right now and why
No one, china should be balkanized into a dozen countries as it existed for a half of their history. China gets "reunified" all the time only because chinks are so inherently bad at warfare that any marginally competent warlord manages to conquer whole region before he chinkifies and becomes shit at war again.
The Taiping were fucking insane though. Manchus were seen as literal demons only fit to be burned alive. And the "Heavenly King" himself fucked around with his harem all day while his underlings killed each other and outlawed sex even between married couples. And then he killed himself by eating poisonous berries which he thought was Manna from Heaven.
No wonder that Buddhism took root in Asia, asians can't deal with exoteric teachings because a billion wannabe brothers and nephews of Jesus will start a local cult. Esoteric teachings such as Buddhism where they are dripfed teachings over a lifetime is the only way to keep them in line.
this gay conspiracy again. hey retard if the israelites wanted to kill christians so bad why didnt they drop one on germany the much more christian and white nation. its almost like a naval port is a legitimate target or something.
ThiccBoomBoi. Are any companies in the US making working reproductions? I ask this question each time an old Nihon flint thread pops up and no one can give a proper response. Please I want one.
Did they have an Odzutsu unit? I still have to play FoTS and only remember matchlock ashigaru and samurai from the base game. I imagine by FoTS their ditching these beasts for revolvers and proper rifles.
>Eventually a deal was done: the smith got lessons in gun making from a second group of Portuguese traders; they got the smith's daughter. A harsh bargain for harsh times, perhaps.
🙁
1 month ago
Anonymous
Suckers. Puss comes and goes but smithing knowledge is priceless.
1 month ago
Anonymous
idk sounds like a good deal to me. you get to share the joy of firearms with your new island asiatic bro and he lets you fuck his daughter as thanks. everyone wins.
So what the fuck are these things supposed to do? Are they big shotguns? Are they primitive hand-cannons? I am unclear on the purpose of such ludicrously large smoothbores.
>playing Shogun 2 with Shimazu Heavy Gunners >vastly outnumbered >siege battle >enemy general dismounts and starts climbing wall >single Heavy Gunner fires a single shot down the wall >kills 8 people including the general with one shot >morale fucked, I win the battle
Was great fun. Shimazu were just the most fun faction. Better gunners, better katanas (who doesn't like katanas?) and better katana heroes.
Its kind of off topic but a ton of people are talking about it already anyway. Are shimazu heavy gunners really better than normal matchlock ashigaru/samurai? The unit card said they dealt less damage overtime so I didnt bother with them
>shimazu heavy gunners really better
Hisforically they were used as anti-materiel guns as much as antipersonnel weapons if not more. Used to attack gates, fences, shield walls etc and make holes for the musket gunners to go through
[...]
are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't. >Republics. >correct
Respublica and democratia are the same word from the different languages you fucking retards and they mean the same thing.
Word meanings change over thousands of years and "republic" and "democracy" do in fact have different definitions in American English, which is the common language of this website.
A republic is a representative democracy. >circle==squared
>Even the nastiest, niggiest, big-lipped, tar babbys of nagger nations do better under liberal democratic systems
AKA, the ones that are receiving gibsmedats from western nations.
>Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere.
Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard. The system of government does not matter. Pre-WW2 Nazi germany had a better standard of living than the 1st or 2nd Reich. Why? Industrialization. The ROC and PRC are also materially much better off than they were before they industrialized. Industrialization is very difficult, if not impossible, under a democracy. In fact, Japan was pretty much never a democracy. The idea that you can simply vote yourself into being materially and financially better off is ludicrous. It takes mass co-ordination, scale, political and social control, the right conditions, an educated populace, and many other factors, many of which democracy is ill-suited to provide. >but the US did it
Only 2 political parties for over a century, not a real democracy.
>Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard. The system of government does not matter.
Resoundingly false. This has been quantified for decades. Liberal, representative, more-democratic states are wealthier more productive and have higher quality-of-life metrics than authoritarian, non-representative, less-democratically states. China would be the canonical modern example, it's prosperity is directly tied to its widespread liberalization.
Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, give him economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself--as though that were so necessary-- that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar. And that is not all: even if man really were nothing but a piano-key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of simple ingratitude, simply to gain his point. And if he does not find means he will contrive destruction and chaos, will contrive sufferings of all sorts, only to gain his point! He will launch a curse upon the world, and as only man can curse (it is his privilege, the primary distinction between him and other animals), may be by his curse alone he will attain his object--that is, convince himself that he is a man and not a piano-key! If you say that all this, too, can be calculated and tabulated--chaos and darkness and curses, so that the mere possibility of calculating it all beforehand would stop it all, and reason would reassert itself, then man would purposely go mad in order to be rid of reason and gain his point! I believe in it, I answer for it, for the whole work of man really seems to consist in nothing but proving to himself every minute that he is a man and not a piano-key!
A fucking Russian would say that. Because Russians are dogshit people in a dogshit society
Ok since we are having a Tanegashima thread, I've been interested in getting a teppo, is there a chance I could find a someone in the states to commision a teppo without Having to possible use an original?
>getting a teppo, is there a chance I could find a someone in the states to commision a teppo
X
but you could get a matchlock kit and customize the stock to match the japanese style
This pic makes me want to Christianize Japan with the Otomo again
Praise Jesus and pass the ammunition
We christianized Korea and it led to tons of heretical cults that now have real political power in Korea and Japan. The same almost happened in Japan if it wasn't for Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Much later it almost happened again in China with the Taiping Rebellion. A christian monarchy that existed in the Chinese heartland for 13 years starting 1851. The last one might have been better than what we ended up with though
>The last one might have been better than what we ended up with though
Yeah, nah, the Taiping made freakin' Mao look positively peaceful and well-adjusted.
True but it was the 19th c, literal wild west times. Who the fuck knows how it would have played out had they defeated the Qing
The Taiping made the Puritans look like free love hippies. No.
okay what's with the fucking chinese history majors browsing /k/
both of y'all, who should rule China right now and why
nta but it should be me so I can get a harem of Chinese qts
Not a Sinoboo or anything but Chinese history is interesting.
>who should rule China right now and why
The Republic obviously.
>Why
Because democracy and parliamentary republics will lead to peace and "The End of History".
>The Republic obviously
You don't disappoint
>Chinese history is interesting
I was at the museum in Taipei looking at some warring states era weapons. Overheard a japanese tourist next tot me say to his friend "This is just like in Kingdom!!". I considered saying something but my autistic ass just chuckled internally and moved on
Kingdom?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_(manga)
>dying of diabetes and still eats ice cream
Very based
>Because democracy and parliamentary republics will lead to peace and "The End of History"
Gay, retarded, and immediately dismissed.
>.t bootlicker
Same logic.
Anyone who invokes "The End of History"™ for any purpose other than citing the historical moment is immediately branded a retard. Especially for assuming that representative government will somehow lead us to a utopia. Every form of government is deeply-flawed, the seeds of its own destruction sown at the founding. To look at the arc of history and see anything else is to be willfully blind.
Name any moment in human history other than now where there has been more peace in the world?
This has been the bloodiest century in human history, retard.
Didn't Genghis Khan's horde wipe out something like 20% of the world's current population?
One of the most incorrect statements ever made on this board. Refrain from ever calling someone else a retard again
Post your gun fag.
well he's only one century off
>This has been the bloodiest century in human history, retard.
lol you're stupid
Democracies are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't.
>Inb4 but white people
Even the nastiest, niggiest, big-lipped, tar babbys of nagger nations do better under liberal democratic systems than any other form of government.
How long has democracy been around, though?
Even more reason to say that it's better. In thousands of years of all kinds of governments, none managed to make the world into a virtual paradise like the one you live in today.
>Paradise
This is a nightmare world and everyone with a shred of decency is praying daily for its collapse.
You're talking to strangers through a magic box. You can get food at any time and there is zero chance of you being enslaved by a conquering army. You live in the one of the best nations at one of the best times in human history. You live in paradise and wish for hell simply because you have no idea what that other world is like. You are a pampered child with angst, nothing more.
Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, give him economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself--as though that were so necessary-- that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar. And that is not all: even if man really were nothing but a piano-key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of simple ingratitude, simply to gain his point. And if he does not find means he will contrive destruction and chaos, will contrive sufferings of all sorts, only to gain his point! He will launch a curse upon the world, and as only man can curse (it is his privilege, the primary distinction between him and other animals), may be by his curse alone he will attain his object--that is, convince himself that he is a man and not a piano-key! If you say that all this, too, can be calculated and tabulated--chaos and darkness and curses, so that the mere possibility of calculating it all beforehand would stop it all, and reason would reassert itself, then man would purposely go mad in order to be rid of reason and gain his point! I believe in it, I answer for it, for the whole work of man really seems to consist in nothing but proving to himself every minute that he is a man and not a piano-key!
>there is zero chance of you being enslaved by a conquering army
Where the fuck did you come up with that?
This was a real risk for most people throughout most of the world in human history. You might even get sacrificed.
I know that, I'm asking why you don't think that's a possibility today?
Because presumably you live in a western liberal democracy. You live in one of the most enviable time and place in human history.
Okay that's all well and good, but that's by no means a guarantee that shit won't go south. Maybe not next week, that'd be a pretty epic collapse, but getting wrecked by an invader and living the rest of my life in a vassal state is not an unreasonable fear.
What country?
this abominable world certainly needs mending but a collapse wouldn't fix anything, countless innocents would die and those still alive be taken by warlords.
Democracy predates humanity. Pretty much every social creature actively decides what to do based on the will of the majority. Some even go so far as to have votes where they fucking sneeze or some stupid shit, and if enough of them sneeze it's time to hunt.
>Even the nastiest, niggiest, big-lipped, tar babbys of nagger nations do better under liberal democratic systems
AKA, the ones that are receiving gibsmedats from western nations.
>Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere.
Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard. The system of government does not matter. Pre-WW2 Nazi germany had a better standard of living than the 1st or 2nd Reich. Why? Industrialization. The ROC and PRC are also materially much better off than they were before they industrialized. Industrialization is very difficult, if not impossible, under a democracy. In fact, Japan was pretty much never a democracy. The idea that you can simply vote yourself into being materially and financially better off is ludicrous. It takes mass co-ordination, scale, political and social control, the right conditions, an educated populace, and many other factors, many of which democracy is ill-suited to provide.
>but the US did it
Only 2 political parties for over a century, not a real democracy.
>Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard
So why isn't China as prosperous as the US? Why isn't Russia? Why isn't North Korea? Those are all industrialized nations, and yet living there sucks. This is anti-liberal cope.
3rd Reich; Yes I'm sure having a national butter shortage as front page news pre-WW2 was a sign of a great standard of living.
>Democracies are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't.
Republics.
You realize that's like saying a square is better than a rectangle, right?
A square has a consistent ratio and symmetry. Rectangles are comparatively chaotic.
And yet a square is a rectangle.
correct. tards like the anon you replied to are the same ones who promote every tard having a say in our lives.
a smooth brain would say something so retarded. got any more glorious insights?
are literally the most successful for of government. Name a more prosperous moment for humanity anywhere. You can't.
>Republics.
>correct
Respublica and democratia are the same word from the different languages you fucking retards and they mean the same thing.
Word meanings change over thousands of years and "republic" and "democracy" do in fact have different definitions in American English, which is the common language of this website.
I ain't really a history major, I just found a list of bloodiest wars in China and holy shit, the Taiping killed more chinese people than the KMT, commies and Japs combined during the 30's and 40's, and over a shorter timeframe.
Yeah but they did bad stuff too.
me because i want to be rich and powerful
i will accept a dual rulership agreement
>who should rule China right now and why
No one, china should be balkanized into a dozen countries as it existed for a half of their history. China gets "reunified" all the time only because chinks are so inherently bad at warfare that any marginally competent warlord manages to conquer whole region before he chinkifies and becomes shit at war again.
The Taiping were fucking insane though. Manchus were seen as literal demons only fit to be burned alive. And the "Heavenly King" himself fucked around with his harem all day while his underlings killed each other and outlawed sex even between married couples. And then he killed himself by eating poisonous berries which he thought was Manna from Heaven.
No wonder that Buddhism took root in Asia, asians can't deal with exoteric teachings because a billion wannabe brothers and nephews of Jesus will start a local cult. Esoteric teachings such as Buddhism where they are dripfed teachings over a lifetime is the only way to keep them in line.
>outlawed sex even between married couples
What fucking genius cooked that one up?
>Manchus were seen as literal demons only fit to be burned alive.
What exactly is the problem here?
If that’s true then how come the one Japanese cult that survived long enough to get nuked personally by zog in 45 was so immeasurably based?
this gay conspiracy again. hey retard if the israelites wanted to kill christians so bad why didnt they drop one on germany the much more christian and white nation. its almost like a naval port is a legitimate target or something.
>Christianized Korea
Protestantism is not Christianity, it's literally in the name
Are you retarded or just trolling?
You're confusing catholicism with Christianity.
>We christianized Korea
Koreans christianised themselves thank you very much
KRISTIANS FUCKING SHITS
GET OFF MY ISRAND !!!
ThiccBoomBoi. Are any companies in the US making working reproductions? I ask this question each time an old Nihon flint thread pops up and no one can give a proper response. Please I want one.
These guys rocked in Shogun 2
Did they have an Odzutsu unit? I still have to play FoTS and only remember matchlock ashigaru and samurai from the base game. I imagine by FoTS their ditching these beasts for revolvers and proper rifles.
Shimazu have them as a Clan-exclusive unit.
No shit? Guess I need to get on that.
Very endgame unit, but they're hilarious:
https://shogun2-encyclopedia.com/units/up1_inf_missile_heavy_gunner_shimazu.html
They came with the patch or DLC that gave every clan a unique unit on top of the upgraded ones they had from the start.
Nice. That's what I love about those TW games, there's always some unit I never heard about lurking in the game.
>Eventually a deal was done: the smith got lessons in gun making from a second group of Portuguese traders; they got the smith's daughter. A harsh bargain for harsh times, perhaps.
🙁
Suckers. Puss comes and goes but smithing knowledge is priceless.
idk sounds like a good deal to me. you get to share the joy of firearms with your new island asiatic bro and he lets you fuck his daughter as thanks. everyone wins.
nobodys gonna post the pic? is it too soon?
So what the fuck are these things supposed to do? Are they big shotguns? Are they primitive hand-cannons? I am unclear on the purpose of such ludicrously large smoothbores.
Are you really too retarded to open links?
Primitive? Japanese firearms were reasonably advanced for their age.
>advanced for their age
their primitive age
Or in other words hundreds of years more advanced than Primitive Hand-Cannons.
Fuck we need some repros in the states.
We do?
Fuck yeah imagine taking something like that to the range. ROs will seethe
Haha yeah that would be epic
kawai!
So this is an Odzutsu, right? Also would wife, she's got the enthusiasm I crave in a partner.
>playing Shogun 2 with Shimazu Heavy Gunners
>vastly outnumbered
>siege battle
>enemy general dismounts and starts climbing wall
>single Heavy Gunner fires a single shot down the wall
>kills 8 people including the general with one shot
>morale fucked, I win the battle
Was great fun. Shimazu were just the most fun faction. Better gunners, better katanas (who doesn't like katanas?) and better katana heroes.
How about long range, crew served matchlock?
Its kind of off topic but a ton of people are talking about it already anyway. Are shimazu heavy gunners really better than normal matchlock ashigaru/samurai? The unit card said they dealt less damage overtime so I didnt bother with them
If your answer to what's good in Shogun 2 isn't "Oda Long Yari Ashigaru wall 20 stack" you have the wrong answer
enjoy getting raped by skirmishers
but yeah oda long ashigaru are fantastic
>shimazu heavy gunners really better
Hisforically they were used as anti-materiel guns as much as antipersonnel weapons if not more. Used to attack gates, fences, shield walls etc and make holes for the musket gunners to go through
A republic is a representative democracy.
>circle==squared
>Industrialization is responsible for prosperity, retard. The system of government does not matter.
Resoundingly false. This has been quantified for decades. Liberal, representative, more-democratic states are wealthier more productive and have higher quality-of-life metrics than authoritarian, non-representative, less-democratically states. China would be the canonical modern example, it's prosperity is directly tied to its widespread liberalization.
A fucking Russian would say that. Because Russians are dogshit people in a dogshit society
>A fucking Russian would say that.
Post gun, fag.
Cool thread about japanese matchlocks btw
Ok since we are having a Tanegashima thread, I've been interested in getting a teppo, is there a chance I could find a someone in the states to commision a teppo without Having to possible use an original?
>getting a teppo, is there a chance I could find a someone in the states to commision a teppo
X
but you could get a matchlock kit and customize the stock to match the japanese style