explain to me how a slow moving, fixed-wing drone able to take attack an airbase with aircraft
why not use the aircraft with air-to-air missiles to scramble fighters as soon as you detect them coming?
explain to me how a slow moving, fixed-wing drone able to take attack an airbase with aircraft
fly below radar
>fly below le horizon
israel has a shitton air-to-air missiles they've been building for decades and not making use of. given that they'll never use them against any airforce they're now just drone-killing missiles.
who would've have thought.
but they failed too fricking Huti (IIRC) drone struck Eilat naval base
that was from iraq. yeah some drone do sometime get through. but not enough to cause substantial damage
>shitton air-to-air missiles
It's not even that. Isreal is simply smaller than a single fricking Crimea with combat zones limited to a single percentile digit of its territory. You can completely monitor all of it 24/7 on a budget of a single Walmart store security.
Stop bringing up Israel every fricking time for fricks sake, they are blowing (surprisingly often) unarmed shitskins on a territory size of a Brooklyn, it has fricking nothing to do with warfare, it is barely even policing operation, because even fighting talibs was less one-sided.
that's a lot of cope brother. israel being smaller means they have less reaction time. russia just has shitty early warning and detection tech clearly. not amount of cope will change that
>>that's a lot of cope brother
>proceeds to spew unfiltered cope
bet you also circumcised
nonetheless, you clearly don't have any idea what the frick even radar is so what's the point of arguing
i will repeat it again: russia has shitty early warning and observation tech (plus a shitty and techonologicaly inept airforce). if they didn't, there would be a couple of planes up in the air evrytime drones were approaching target
good missles but bad radars
yeah i don't think so. i've seen so many videos of russian AD failing to take down everything from drones to ballistic and cruise missiles
>less reaction time
virtually no such thing when israel is agent provocateur, they are always expecting retaliation one way or the other
and russia isn't expecting attacks on its territory from ukraine when they been sending drones into russia for over a year? what's the point of your argument. also, mathematically speaking, yes they have less reaction time
Cuckoldry fetishists manning the defense
checked
I need this read in one of those facebook AI voices. Maybe the attenborough clone one.
No no no it needs to be read in the voice of a russian speaker with a very loose grasp of the English language.
Why they always find a way to make a sexual comparison, how much alcohol poisoning I need to unlock this level of moronation.
mongoloid rapist conqueror mindset
also their prison culture having seeped into the mainstream.
there've been several vatBlack folk on here vehemently defending prison/army rape as an alpha thing in which the coldest MF around simply has to rape, no matter whether it's a male or female ass. since it's supposedly all about power dynamics, domination, humiliation and such and not the erect dick entering a man's crusty ass and ejaculating into it, which would be gay of course.
in summary for russians the problem is not the ass fricking itself, the problem is consent. picture western liberal gays that willingly take it up the ass and enjoy it, an idea worse than a thousand hells for russians
this stuff has been known for a long time
there's still tons of anons not knowing this and wondering how russians can be so well known for their hypocritical gayhate despite being raging gays themselves
Is that just to keep the guy from running away?
Does the average Russian not realize you can pick handcuff "locks" with a fricking paperclip?
The "prison culture" is just the culture of the Russian Mafia, who are the true organization that rules Russia. Russia is the way it is because their leadership and elite are all former KGB, USSR state company officials and fricking mobsters. People still don't realize the "oligarchs" are all associated to the Russian Mafia.
>"prison culture" is just the culture of the Russian Mafia
yup, the russian mob, the so called thieves in law originated from russian prisons and gulag camps, formed mainly during the years of stalin's terror when millions of soviet citizens were imprisoned, some of which were legit smart and capable people. politicians, engineers, ideologues, law enforcement, army officers, all sorts of government functionaries that were forced into a life among wolves and jackals.
after stalin croaked it many of them got released and returned back into their previous lives, jobs and titles but the criminal connections remained. nowadays the russian government lives in a symbiotic relationship with all sorts of criminal elements. lets them operate as long as it is kept under the wraps and sometimes orders them to do their dirty work, stuff like intimidation, murders and other kinds of violence to keep the populace and more imporantly, the critics down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thief_in_law
Thieves in law institutions got in many ways built out by the soviet regime, as to have a connection and use the criminal underworld as enforcers in prisons and gulag camps to suppress the "politicals" (those jailed under "political articles" of the criminal code, anyone from having a wrong relative or being of a wrong ethnicity or being not super poor, or just having your neighbors tell that you're an agent of japanese intelligence, etc).
>The cuckolder of Kyiv
Checked. The radar is in the chair, the lights are dimming and Serduchka starts to play.
Screenshots of social media posts that have no timestamp or relative timestamps should be automatic bans.
Yeah, but how many of these turn out to be actual fakes? Not that many...
Any news from our Eternal Flight friend? fighterbomber has been a morale booster since prigo died and girkin vanished
it's 4am in ziggerland. that gay gonna have a meltdown as soon as he wakes up though
It's 6AM in russia, so you have to wait 5h for him to wake up
Paying pilots to stay on duty is expensive and they have very few of them ready to go relative to the number of airframes. They also lack the more sophisticated targeting pods and the missiles to go with them to engage small targets with. You have to understand that the Russian economy is roughly the size of Italian one with a military 15 times the size so the costs have to be cut somewhere. Short range air defenses aren't too high on that list so they rely on few pantsirs and osas.
Explain to me how flying lawnmowers penetrate the iron dome
why are third worlders obsessed with the iron dome? this is about aircraft
>Why are White tax paying Americans obsessed with where their tax payer money is going overseas?
FTFY shill
you're are not white nor american nor do you pay any taxes
I wish I still had that webm of an Israeli bulldozer deliberately diverting to crush the corpse of a dead Hamas dirka so his family wouldn't have a body to bury.
Holy shit.Even pidors aren't that evil.
Yes. They are.
He's delusional, take him to the infirmary.
Pidors have no concept of corpses as a former human being with a grieving family with a desire for closure nor something sacred or even with any intrinsic sentimental value to anyone. To them it is just a thing, cargo 200 (Гpyз 200).
If they had such a concept they would 100% decorate their frankenstein vehicles with corpses and P.O.W.s if they thought it would give them a marginal advantage or inconvenience the other side.
Quite right. Say what you will about them, but Russians treat the dead with dignity.
I see the Syrian volunteers finally made it to Ukraine.
>It is every pidor's final duty to go into the cubes and become one with all the people.
Wait. The meat cubes aren't a meme? Those can't be people
Were they ever?
I see you're stuck in Denial...
>pringles
>dead
He's building Outer Heaven in Africa as we speak
It remains a compelling mystery. The Russians posted it first, bragging about how Ukraine was stuffing their dead into port-a-graves, until somebody pointed out that it was in Russia, and the locals were complaining about the smell. That was when they went absolutely fricking ballistic about how it was entrails from a chicken processing plant (closed since before the war), or donations to a local dog shelter (404 location not found), but it most definitely was NOT dead Russian soldiers, because that's the kind of dehumanizing barbarism only the West would engage in, right?
In the early months of the war, they were burying dead donbabweans and lugandans in fricking road medians lmao
The cube was obviously not human remains from the beginning. It was always hyper morons projecting and doing anything possible to make themselves believe it was people. There were no identifiable human remains in any of the pics, it was literal waste from a meat plant that got dumped in the road because slavs don't give a frick and morons took it to the moon and back. Like Joe Dirt and his "meteorite."
You're missing the whole point. The thing is that it was shocking because the "compacted mobik" theory was BELIEVABLE.
It was funny because /chug/ was originally claiming it was cubed ukropiggies. Then someone geolocated it deep behind Russian lines and they went into a hysterical panic. Then it was some kind of meat package for an animal shelter despite there being no animal shelter within 100km. Obviously it's not cubed soldiers, but the amount of panic and rationalizing about it was very enjoyable.
The only thing that makes it less than totally plausible is that the amount of processing required to strip the meat from who knows how many corpses and package them into cubes for transport is about 10 times more effort than Russia typically puts into handling its dead soldiers. When they aren't leaving corpses to rot where they fall, they just dump them in pits or heap them in a pile.
I think that's the fun part of a mystery or myth, no ones quite ever produced any convincing evidence that it was just animal offal or it was mobiks
We may never know
Maybe its better that way, kind of like buying and eating cheap meat in china or deeply questioning the sanitary conditions of an MRE factory
I wonder if he's still there.
iirc the first three pictures were taken in a span of a couple weeks in feb/march 2022, fourth one looks like a different place and vehicles.
Don't forget how someone leaked the photos from security monitors from within a meat plant with bodies
Obligatory
It was also dumped after Prighozin had his businesses shut down...
what is happening in that webm
Allegedly a blocking unit disposing of retreating ziggers.
They aren't a meme from the standpoint of they actually exist. As for if they're people or not, the ziggers certainly backpeddled pretty hard when the first ones were traced to belgorod after they memed about them being compressed ukies, so there might be some truth to it.
It's probably not people.
Probably.
They had to dump Prigozhin's meat surplus after the march of justice attempt and him being exiled to Belarus...
All will know when all is with cube
sounds nice to fap to
>Israeli bulldozer deliberately diverting to crush the corpse of a dead Hamas dirka so his family wouldn't have a body to bury
Wtf I love Israel now
>why not use the aircraft with air-to-air missiles to scramble fighters as soon as you detect them coming?
>detect them coming
Ukraine has been busily nailing zigger radars though for like the last week. They've taken out multiple AWACS and Russia never had many in the first place and they're effectively lostech. People have been speculating but it definitely feels like we've seen a tipping point passed where there are now big holes in the nets and they just can't keep track of everything anymore.
Or maybe they were just sleepy. I get sleepy sometimes. Ukrainians cheated by attacking at night when everyone is trying to have a good nights nappy nap.
Is this from today?
yes
Morozovsk airbase: Quietly Exploding
Holy o-frickballs they got the Ambulance Police on the case
I doubt zigger planes have nightfighting capabilities
Those aren't explosions at the airfield, those are the aurora borealis.
aurora borealis?
Fancy swamp gas
At this time of year? This far west? Localised entirely within Morozovsk Airbase?
Pidors let the shisha fire get out of control in the barracks again
inb4 this leads to a slightly different stalemate.
in this airfield?
Nyet, eto Patrick!
>scramble fighters
low operational rates
>as soon as you detect them coming?
gaps in radar coverage
vid of some drones hitting Kursk, Voronezh, and Rostov
Better with sound:
another vid of kursk getting hit
with sound:
It's so fricking funny that we're going to reach a point where every city except Moscow loses the ability to pretend the war isn't affecting them
ukies should send cloud seeding drones to flood moscow
I didn't know Russians had showers
a small fraction of urbanites has them, as well as flush toilets and other amenities.
iirc like at least 2/3 of russians doesn't have indoor toilets and have to shit in outhouses instead lmao
>I didn't know Russians had showers
moscow and to a lesser degree st pidorsburg are pretty much western cities, just inhabited by russians. they have modern amenities, modern public transportation that's at least less dirty than paris (I know, I know), there's plenty of entertainment and night life, generally things are pretty good. moscow is definitely ahead of pidorsburg in every regard of late.
then, outside those two cities you have a bunch of second-tier cities, which were largely frozen in time in the 70s, and then you have 95% of russia proper which was also frozen in the 70s... of the victorian era, where having indoor toilet is a sign of doing alright
>every city except Moscow loses the ability to pretend the war isn't affecting them
Might be the best of all worlds. moscum ziggers believing that there is no war happening while the entire rest of the country is suffering maximizes TZD until the whole country balkanizes and dissolves in civil war. Really could be peak TZD and turn the entire shithole into a footnote in history.
>The Hitchiker's Guide notes that, while mostly harmless today, the now-vanished state of vatnikistan once threatened the existence of an entire planet due to an infantile desire for banan. ref. Earth, former Vogon construction zone and poetry victim.
Anon the rest of the world isn't even caught up to America circa 1980
>America circa 1980
didn't have large numbers of guided weapons by the way; the majority tank was the M60, the majority "IFV" the M113, and the mainstay air defence fighter was the F-4 Phantom launching semiactive Sparrow missiles
Yes. Russia and China today would lose to 1980s America.
Any other country on the planet would lose to 1970s America.
Frankly, most countries would lose to 1950s America.
I can go lower and not be wrong. Literally no one else has any idea how to have a military.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
C'mon. man. This is very basic.
all drones shot down
fire at oil depot just a coincidence
>russia destroyed all drones using their best AA - oil refineries
Can't argue with results...those particular drones won't be bothering Mother Russia again.
>allegedly damaged
Fricking hell, I'd hate to see the fire if it wasn't just allegedly damaged
oil depot is quietly burning
Scheduled maintenance explosion
russia is asleep at the wheel, not much more to it
>The aftermath of Ukraine's recent strike on Morozovsk air base in Russia is visible in new satellite imagery.
>The base was last struck by Ukraine earlier this year in April.
>https://x.com/bradyafr/status/1801629416545521924
Flight status?
I'm guessing they must have moved the wreckage? I would have expected to see burned out planes on the tarmac
>I'm guessing they must have moved the wreckage? I would have expected to see burned out planes on the tarmac
Russians must be expert jannies to sweep up that much burnt jet wrecks in time before Banderite satellites can capture their failure to use hangers.
>Flight status?
Ack'd; see pic.
O ya you can see some blue in there. How many aircraft can those things hold
>How many aircraft can those things hold
Looks like two in the photo.
Apparently there's two SU-34's less in the Russian airforce
They seem very angry about it
I had to look it up, shit Beetlejuice was a long time ago and its been ages since I had anything to do with US confectionery.
Keep the rare candy bar and just flog off some humanitarian rations for good times
>Keep the rare candy bar
Na man....three Dollar Generals within a 3 mile radius have them. I haven't seen them in 5+ years outside of 7+ mile radius. Screencap this. I will post Zagnuts with Zun in a day or two with receipt.
did they really shrek 5 SU's or were they just moved?
i higly doubt they would send bombs flying if they weren't certain of the presence of aircraft.
Stain at left suggests at least one got shwacked.
What idiots bunch aircraft that close to each other and don't use revetments?
Russian air defense is and has always been shit.
I think that you might be able to re-do the cessna-on-the-red-square trick right now.
Give it another 6 months you can land there, get a blowjob for 2 snickers bars and fly back home
>get a blowjob for 2 snickers bars
Frick that. I can get 5 blowjobs for one picrel. You know how rare these frickers are here in the states, let alone Russia?
>zagnuts
This implies the existence of zignuts.
Ukraine has an app that lets civies report shit like drones, missiles, etc.
dont the vatniks have the same? they all know how to rat on each other just fine.
Vatniks might if someone paid them, otherwise its someone else's problem
No because to have that the RU federal government would have to admit there's a war and not a Special Military Operation.
>Inb4 Americans reply "b-b-but Putin said the word war"
Putin can always say whatever the frick he wants informally, as far as the actual state policy goes its still not a war.
>It's not a war
Is this cope?
Stop being a braindead parrot if you can't parse what that poster is implying. Pro-tip: that post you're replying to isn't a vatnik nor posits any pro-Muscovite statements.
You're so getting nuked...
With what delivery system? Patriots killed all the short range thus far
Do it, homosexual. No balls.
oh shut up homosexual
stop wiener teasing us
i honestly wish you gays would do it so we could glass the your entire country and you would MAYBE wipe out the worst parts of our country
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
?????????
>clean it up, jannies
This looks like more than "two destroyed planes"
I like those migs hiding in a cuckshed.
>migs in the cuckshed watching while sukhois get flown.
BTW Putin has publicly announced the requirements for Russia to enter peace negations with Ukraine:
1. Ukraine’s complete withdrawal from Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in their entirety.
2. Ukraine must officially abandon any plans to join NATO.
3. Lifting sanctions against Russia must be a part of the peace deal and this deal must be binding.
If Ukraine agrees to these terms and begins concrete troop withdrawal from those regions Russia will immediately issue a ceasefire and guarantee the safe withdrawal of Ukrainian forces.
So, is the end in sight?
>lift the sanctions
I thought they didn't work. Also lmao, talk about a non starter.
>you just have to give us the rest of the oblasts
russia doesn't even control zporizhia and kherson. lmfao. don't know why the russians are wasting their time with this
Well yes. It’s basically asking Ukraine to admit defeat and accept a punitive peace deal. Obviously Zelensky laughed it off as absurd and called it Russian Nazism.
>admit defeat
the russians have to be the first people in history to say "please admit i defeated you" and "annexing" territory they don't control.
>why the russians are wasting their time with this
because they have hordes of shills in the west who would go
>uhhhm, akshullly, russhia whahnts peashe, here are simple condishions putin shaid, so itsh Ukraine who wantsh war, stop giving zhem weaponsh!!!!!!!
which wouldn't do much normally, but in elections period, when every homosexual politician is fighting for every percent of votes they can get, might be extremely annoying
hate to admit it but he's right
guess you're just as moronic as he is
Actually maximalist would be complete capitulation of Washington, Zelensky shot live on TV, Biden in exile and a Russian Berlin!
This shit is pure delusion, how can anyone take seriously a "peace deal" in which several countries that aren't actively part of the conflict basically surrender their autonomy to an enemy that is 1000 kms away from their borders, while said enemy has been stuck 100 km from their own borders for almost 3 years. What the frick is up with these people?
I assume half the shit Russia says for international consumption is designed solely to be believed by fifth columnists (of both the purposeful and unwitting variety) who then make stupid talking points.
When Putin and the Russians say they're fighting the US and the West they're not lying to you. They really do believe they are. They just see things like other people being capable of free will differently from civilized people.
Damn, this pedo is still around? I heard Ritter has been detained. Hope he's tortured to death.
was he detained? last i read they just took his passport so he couldn't go to russia. i think it
The pedo himself wasn't detained, they just took his passport and told him to frick off
The end of monke checking out in his bunker sounds much closer to me
They'd just invade again later even if Ukraine accepted that.
>guarantee the safe withdrawal of Ukrainian forces
Would this be the same "safe withdrawal" they promised to civilians in Mariupol?
>taking russian claims seriously
>after Budapest Memorandum
>after Minsk agreements
Ukies aren't that moronic.
You wish.
>Russia will immediately issue a ceasefire and guarantee
I remember russia said they treat POWs according to Geneva convention.
>guarantee the safe withdrawal
A-ha-ha-ha-ha no. Russians broke such agreements like no less than 4 or 5 times in 2014-2015 alone.
>1. Ukraine’s complete withdrawal from Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in their entirety.
Ukraine isn't going to abandon territory that the Russians don't even hold.
>2. Ukraine must officially abandon any plans to join NATO.
There is no reality where Ukraine doesn't join NATO or a NATO-adjacent alliance upon ceasefire. You'd have to be moronic to think anyone would keep their word on this.
>3. Lifting sanctions against Russia must be a part of the peace deal and this deal must be binding.
The international community has no interest in rewarding bad behavior. Russia's rot is open for the world to see, and Europe and the US aren't afraid any more.
I miss the days when if an enemy sent you terms like this, you'd send the envoy's severed head back as a reply.
I mean they tried but r-77/long range radar guided missiles apparently suck when you try to fire them point blank.
>why not use the aircraft
Because each time russian aircraft takes a flight, there is like 10% chance that the the plane ends up inside nearby apartment building
Doppler gate setup is a tricky problem. That's also how those spy balloons were able to overfly the USA for a while before being detected and intercepted. There are likely SOP doppler gates for S-300/S-400 etc that the Ukrainians know, and can exploit. Frontline units may vary the gates but a rando garrison unit back in the hinterland probably just goes by SOP.
pantsir missle worth millions of yuan vs 10 thousand dollar drone
saturate
ukraine sends up to 100 of these at a time and some get through. even more get through if out of range of pantsir guns
>saturate
>ukraine sends up to 100 of these at a time and some get through. even more get through if out of range of pantsir guns
this is just cope. i've seen plenty of videos of pantisrs and buks missing small drones. they have shitty proximity fuses. russian AD just sucks.
You will figure it out yourself, it’s not that hard to understand. Hint: the slow part is important.
The missile they'd use to shoot the drone down costs more than the drone it'd be shooting down and russians aren't dumb enough to waste ammo like that
that's a stupid argument. just say russians are poor
you guys don't remember Russians laughing at patriots/other AA missiles being used on drones a long while back?
this guy does
>you guys don't remember Russians laughing at patriots/other AA missiles being used on drones a long while back?
not doubting you but what proof is there that patriots were fired at drones?
Yeah but it would cost less than a refinery or a couple of planes, the targets of these drones.
And the sukhois are cheap shit that russia didnt need anyway, and who cares for refinery russia has more and oil too!
people sleep at night
pilots are people (even if they're russian)
It can't. It never happened. Those are just some feel good reddit advertorials.
>Get comfy air defense position far from the front lines where you don't do anything
>Attempt to make improvements
>"Congratulation Comrade, your expertise will be put to valuable use in the Kharkiv offensive (after we buttrape you one last time)!"
>explain to me how a slow moving, fixed-wing drone able to take attack an airbase with aircraft
they had to ask Moscow for orders but Pootin was asleep