Yes the US will just drop thousands of these floating in the middle of the Pacific, autonomous and networked, to be fired when the time is right, the ultimate distributed maritime platform
Container based systems are great for nation defense, you can have systems all over the country without anyone knowing and can quickly and easily move them around.
As for offensive use it's just going to lead to every cargo ship / train becoming a target, if you are fighting someone that can kill these then it's a bad move, if you are fighting someone that can't it's fine.
I think about who can use it how and against who.
The US using them against China or China using them against the US is going to lead to unrestricted naval warfare that isn't going to be good for the economies of either nation but will be worse for China because they are so export focused.
If we are talking about Mozambique using them against Tanzania then neither county can realistically halt all cargo shipping of the other and they can be used freely without unrestricted naval warfare being a major problem.
Pretty sure we are pumping out SM-6's and ESSM's like theres no tomorrow, we have such a huge stock of SM-2's and Tomahawks too just waiting to be used
> Pretty sure we are pumping out SM-6's and ESSM's like theres no tomorrow
> The 2024 budget funds the first year of the multi-year procurement for $1.62 billion for 125 of the SM-6 missiles split between $1.2B for the ordnance and the rest for research and development.
People who don't actually read budget documents always think USA stronk and buying everything.
>These two systems change everything
Yes. The moment the first one is used, all Chinese civilian shipping transforms into active combatants and we can engage in unrestricted submarine warfare since there are no more civilians to worry about.
you all are fucking retarded. it's containerized for easy transport, nobody is going to be fooled that your sneaky base of a pile of containers on the coast radiating radar is anything other than a coastal missile battery.
what IS super useful is to be able to transport a fucking missile battery with extant logistical equipment.
I don't really believe they will be used that way, these are gamechanging for the Navy ships lacking firepower but with plenty of space for modular and lethal systems like this, LCS, LPD, unmanned fleet
There are a few option for stealth use. >data linked to remote radar for planes / ships >GPS area targeting with optical terminal targeting for ships >GPS only for static targets
There are plenty of options other than putting a radar next to the container depending on the role you want filled by a container VLS.
Seems like the obvious thing to do would be to try to make them as cheap as possible and produce them in bulk so that every tiny island or coastal base can immediately get a stack of anti-ship missiles. Containerisation should simplify logistics and stripping it of the military grade truck/chassis/etc that would normally be attached should save a significant cost.
Build some hescos around the container if it needs some protection one it arrives at the base.
Depends on whether the contractors can resist their urge to overbuild and markup the price.
>chinks and russoids instantly mald that our ad-hoc jerry rigged stuff is actually functional for the role and built to standard, while their looks like something some sandnagger cobbled together in a shed
feed me more tears.
Hey, stop being mean to Russia and China! Their next-gen systems are totally coming off the drawing board any day now! Seriously, they're going to be so cool and sci-fi, you'll see! Russia and China will absolutely become credible peer/near-peer adversaries any day now, RT and Globaltime.cn told me so!
These would be really good for escorting during a wartime scenario.
You could have a single light frigate with sonar/radar and distribute all of your ASROC/SM6 on the freight ships you are escorting which have no shortage of space or displacement.
this could work as first strike weapon - buy after that it would simply mean that all ships that have those on board will became valid military targets
>a levitating intermodal container
impressive
Yes the US will just drop thousands of these floating in the middle of the Pacific, autonomous and networked, to be fired when the time is right, the ultimate distributed maritime platform
China is trembling
China can do that better than you. They are ahead of you in unmanned drones
They've got like 1.5 billion drones, last I checked.
Container based systems are great for nation defense, you can have systems all over the country without anyone knowing and can quickly and easily move them around.
As for offensive use it's just going to lead to every cargo ship / train becoming a target, if you are fighting someone that can kill these then it's a bad move, if you are fighting someone that can't it's fine.
What do you think "every ship a shooter" means?
About the only ships that I think won't receive either the Adaptable Deck launcher or MK.70 canister are USNS ships
I think about who can use it how and against who.
The US using them against China or China using them against the US is going to lead to unrestricted naval warfare that isn't going to be good for the economies of either nation but will be worse for China because they are so export focused.
If we are talking about Mozambique using them against Tanzania then neither county can realistically halt all cargo shipping of the other and they can be used freely without unrestricted naval warfare being a major problem.
It's not meant to go on civilian/cargo/container ships anon
That doesn't mean it won't, and all it takes is one or two before your opponent decides any ship flying your flag is a valid military target.
This wouldn't work in the US because joggers would bust into the containers to have a look see and steal the missile
Do people who jog like to look at missiles or somethn?
He's doing a racism but "cleverly" trying to hide it in dog whistles because he knows /k/ mods crack down on that shit hard now
>Dog whistles
Redditors are naggers.
bump
>tfw the bloods acquire a ballistic missile from one of these and fires it at the crips
do you have enough missiles to put in these
Pretty sure we are pumping out SM-6's and ESSM's like theres no tomorrow, we have such a huge stock of SM-2's and Tomahawks too just waiting to be used
Just use them all on China, they are squirming and begging for it
> Pretty sure we are pumping out SM-6's and ESSM's like theres no tomorrow
> The 2024 budget funds the first year of the multi-year procurement for $1.62 billion for 125 of the SM-6 missiles split between $1.2B for the ordnance and the rest for research and development.
People who don't actually read budget documents always think USA stronk and buying everything.
Now all the years before that
125 ABM missiles is pretty awesome.
Not ABMs. Park one in New York Harbor and watch it try to take out an incoming Red Chinese ICBM.
> But.....
ICBM <> IRBM
Finally, Russia is ahead of pigdog West by a decade!
FRESH FRUITS
I don't care what the marketers say, we are going to see containerized weapons systems deployed from cargo ships, cargo trains and civilian trucks.
I am inevitable
>next year
>massive container shipment to Guam
>its just rows and rows of containers
>nobody seems to be using them
>what are they doing there?
>tfw Maersk will become the DJI of the sea
>tfw your screen lights up with 798 contacts
>THERE EVERYWHERE
>HOW DID THEY GET THOUGH
>FRESH FRUITS
A fellow appreciator of the works of Semenov Dahir Kurmanbievich, I see.
That looks like it's from a video game, not even memeing.
isn't this taking
>muh logistics
a little too far?
No but it is making up for the deficiencies of certain ships
We will put a fucking Burger King on Mars and no one can stop us.
The navy said they didn't need the Ticos then they go and do this
it just doesn't add up
The ticos are litterally falling apart lmao. Those are spruence hulls ffs.
>These two systems change everything
Yes. The moment the first one is used, all Chinese civilian shipping transforms into active combatants and we can engage in unrestricted submarine warfare since there are no more civilians to worry about.
Those are US systems.
it doesn't matter if the Chinese aren't using them they'll use it as reason to sink Chinese ships as threats
hmmm where have I seen this before
Dahir Insaat overcomplicated it. This is just using your containers to chuck a few missiles from not right in front of whatever
you all are fucking retarded. it's containerized for easy transport, nobody is going to be fooled that your sneaky base of a pile of containers on the coast radiating radar is anything other than a coastal missile battery.
what IS super useful is to be able to transport a fucking missile battery with extant logistical equipment.
OP here, not the intention of my post lmao
I don't really believe they will be used that way, these are gamechanging for the Navy ships lacking firepower but with plenty of space for modular and lethal systems like this, LCS, LPD, unmanned fleet
>like this, LCS
Will they even keep it beyond 2030?
There are a few option for stealth use.
>data linked to remote radar for planes / ships
>GPS area targeting with optical terminal targeting for ships
>GPS only for static targets
There are plenty of options other than putting a radar next to the container depending on the role you want filled by a container VLS.
Do we know how much they're going to cost?
Seems like the obvious thing to do would be to try to make them as cheap as possible and produce them in bulk so that every tiny island or coastal base can immediately get a stack of anti-ship missiles. Containerisation should simplify logistics and stripping it of the military grade truck/chassis/etc that would normally be attached should save a significant cost.
Build some hescos around the container if it needs some protection one it arrives at the base.
Depends on whether the contractors can resist their urge to overbuild and markup the price.
Use these and literally all civilian ships capable of carrying containers become valid targets.
But can they launch drone fighters? Asking for a belkan
I wouldn't worry about it.
Is that a fucking BATTLE BOX (TM)?
>These two systems CHANGE EVERYTHING
are you the guy who writes the titles of every youtube video
>russia and china does this
HAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THEM COPING WITH SHITTY TUBES
>usa does it
>IMPLESSIVE
>chinks and russoids instantly mald that our ad-hoc jerry rigged stuff is actually functional for the role and built to standard, while their looks like something some sandnagger cobbled together in a shed
feed me more tears.
Hey, stop being mean to Russia and China! Their next-gen systems are totally coming off the drawing board any day now! Seriously, they're going to be so cool and sci-fi, you'll see! Russia and China will absolutely become credible peer/near-peer adversaries any day now, RT and Globaltime.cn told me so!
>its actually function for the role
so throwing containers on a helipad was actually part of the design?
lmao what kind of cope is that
These would be really good for escorting during a wartime scenario.
You could have a single light frigate with sonar/radar and distribute all of your ASROC/SM6 on the freight ships you are escorting which have no shortage of space or displacement.
>how to get your entire merchant fleet sunk in two easy steps
Oh look, zoomers learned them about the "Ghost Train".
this could work as first strike weapon - buy after that it would simply mean that all ships that have those on board will became valid military targets
Americans shouldnt use disguised weapons as containers.
Pretty sure they are going to find a way to "lost" them.
>way to "lost" them.
>"lost" them