>TIL Bosnia is NATO
Bosnia's constitution explicitly says NATO has absolute freedom to do whatever the fuck they want - if NATO wanted they could plop down a couple of Patriot batteries in Bosnia and it would be totally legal. There's a NATO regional headquarters already there. So yeah, Bosnia isn't in NATO the same way Sweden isn't, not the same way Armenia or even Austria isn't. And it's formally joining as soon as the Parliament is finally formed - the majority is already there.
I live in Canada. We have around 40M people. Servia has 7M. Canada's GDP per capita is around 52K USD per resident, Serbia is around 9K. Despite being a semi-wealthy country, Canada can barely afford a credible Navy, Air Force, and Army.That shit is expensive. We could, but then we'd have to stop spending on other things like education, infrastructure, and healthcare.
Serbia, you need stop pretending to be a real country and buying shit you don't need. You can't afford a bucking air force, at least not a credible one. Spend your money more wisely or everyone will continue leaving, you will continue being poor, and your planes will serve no earthly deterrence. No one is going to invade you and you have no ability to invade anyone else. This is pathetic. If you really want a military, spend your money wisely on: Infantry, drones, artillery, SAMs, EW and proper training.
The entire leadership of Serbia is deeply corrupt and tied to organized crime. I'm talking their president (a former Milosevic flunkie) employing gangs that owned torture chambers and industrial mince meat machines for use on human corpses. Both his son and brother are regularly seen with mob bosses and hooligan groups that just so happen to really hate investigative journalists and opposition politicians. His minister of defense got caught using military intelligence personnel to guard drug deals and regularly threatens to invade neighboring countries. Their chief of police (a bimbo in her 30s) was a fuck-toy for half the mob and regularly derailed investigations, gave away informants and stole evidence. Their parliament is stacked with oligarchs or their flunkies, bimbos, war criminals, useful idiots of all stripes and colors. They caused no less than three major ecological catastrophes in the past 5 years through shady deals with foreign shell companies and fucked every national budget three ways to Sunday.
Everyone in Serbia who holds any amount of power knows their days are numbered if Serbia ever becomes a democratic state with strong rule of law - which is a risk if they integrate with the west. But they also know how opposing the west will end. Ideally they want to trick the west with overtures; get a windfall in investment and political favors - but still continue being a corrupt, amoral shit-hole below the surface.
Funny thing is they're getting their wish: the west is so desperate to finally get Serbia off the list of problems in Europe that they chose appeasement (again) as soon as Serbia made the most shallow of concessions and the US is busy handing them Bosnia and, to a lesser degree, MonteBlack wrapped in a bow.
>Their chief of police (a bimbo in her 30s) was a fuck-toy for half the mob
Name? Just out of curiosity because wikipedia claims the head of police is a dude called Vladimir Rebec
I live in Canada. We have around 40M people. Servia has 7M. Canada's GDP per capita is around 52K USD per resident, Serbia is around 9K. Despite being a semi-wealthy country, Canada can barely afford a credible Navy, Air Force, and Army.That shit is expensive. We could, but then we'd have to stop spending on other things like education, infrastructure, and healthcare.
Serbia, you need stop pretending to be a real country and buying shit you don't need. You can't afford a bucking air force, at least not a credible one. Spend your money more wisely or everyone will continue leaving, you will continue being poor, and your planes will serve no earthly deterrence. No one is going to invade you and you have no ability to invade anyone else. This is pathetic. If you really want a military, spend your money wisely on: Infantry, drones, artillery, SAMs, EW and proper training.
Didn't Russia or Belarus donate a bunch of modernized MIG29s just 2 or 3 years ago to Serbia? Doesn't make sense to already search for a new plane. Seems more like posturing to me because Croatia is getting Rafales.
What kinda of a doctrine did serbia had before? You do realise they are surrounded by are landlocked of course they are going to have one or two exercise with nato.
Lizard lips knows how the toast gets buttered, so yea, he would into EU. His problem is the same as any other smart Serbian politician's: he works with one of the most retarded voting publics in the world, namely Serbs.
How do you imagine Serbia would support Russian airframes when Russia can't generate enough sorties to crush Ukraine?
You don't just buy aircraft like a new riding mower and run it for years on blades and oil. Just training their pilots takes many sorties (noobs forget what sorties are for) which wears out parts and requires periodic maintenance and repair.
>have migs >have to left Russia service them since they're the ones making the parts and with the knowhow >Russians are incompetent and every aircraft they service is rendered unfit for flight >also Russia can't make parts anymore
yeah it's really hard to understand why Serbia would do this lmao
I mean they don't really have much choice, Russian weapon exports are kind of fucked for the foreseeable future. Being friends with Russia is kind of fucked for the foreseeable future even
The Rafale, is fully the equal of the F-35, Su-57 and J-20 as a fifth generation fighter. Like the KF-21, it is a 4.5 gen with development potential to be further upgraded to fifth gen. That is why many countries, such as India, Indonesia, Qatar and the UAE which have requested F-35s or were looking at other fifth gen options like the Su-75 and KF-21, are now Rafale users.
The Eurofag Typhoon meanwhile remains a 4-4.5 generation aircraft with no further development potential, and the countries who are using it primarily (UK, Italy, Spain etc) are all F-35 users and have no incentive to develop it further
>be Argentina. >"strategic NATO ally". >have to beg for mediocre fighter jets because britain (but mostly lack of will to invest enough money). >be serbia. >hated by everyone around them. >technically on frozen conflict with NATO and still waiting to strike at the NATO occupation with openly genocidal intent. >get rafales.
Why are Rafale exports so much higher than the other Eurocanards?
Are the Germans being bitches about who's allowed to purchase Typhoons? Do people not buy Gripens because of all the American components it uses?
>What does Argentina even need fighter jets for?
So they won't have to watch someone's else air forces securing their airspace during the visit of foreign delegations, because they can only deploy subsonic Pampa, or turboprop Pucara.
ever heard the parable of the prodigal son? well, western decision makers did - only without getting the point. serbia not trying to genocide anyone for a solid decade is in the minds of many western politicians as praise-worthy as neighboring countries following western foreign policy in lock-step and sending troops to die in afghtanistan, iraq or wherever.
Why even bother with an air force? They're literally surrounded by NATO
To maintain operational experience just in case. This is why even landlocked countries have navies of some sort, even just a few patrol boats.
navies to help control waterways or move armed groups along them make sense
TIL Bosnia is NATO
>TIL Bosnia is NATO
Bosnia's constitution explicitly says NATO has absolute freedom to do whatever the fuck they want - if NATO wanted they could plop down a couple of Patriot batteries in Bosnia and it would be totally legal. There's a NATO regional headquarters already there. So yeah, Bosnia isn't in NATO the same way Sweden isn't, not the same way Armenia or even Austria isn't. And it's formally joining as soon as the Parliament is finally formed - the majority is already there.
It’s legitimately hard to tell if Serbia wants to integrate with the west or not
they do but they don't want to give up kosovo so they're kind of deadlocked
just separate kosovo...
Red and black I dress eagle on my chest
>country with lower male avg height than China
>thinks they're a gigachad
>It's good to be an Albanian
>Keep my head up high for that flag I die
>I'm proud to be an Albanian
>Average alb*nian iq: 81.75
Sauce: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
Serbs, meanwhile, managed to get uplifted to a level of social organization they previously couldn't even begin to dream of by NATo bombing campaigns.
>Serbia gets bomber back to the stone age
>Still maintains a higher avg IQ and height than Shitterria
Too bad they didn't manage to keep it up until they reached the Greek border. Any chance they can come here to America and do the same thing?
The entire leadership of Serbia is deeply corrupt and tied to organized crime. I'm talking their president (a former Milosevic flunkie) employing gangs that owned torture chambers and industrial mince meat machines for use on human corpses. Both his son and brother are regularly seen with mob bosses and hooligan groups that just so happen to really hate investigative journalists and opposition politicians. His minister of defense got caught using military intelligence personnel to guard drug deals and regularly threatens to invade neighboring countries. Their chief of police (a bimbo in her 30s) was a fuck-toy for half the mob and regularly derailed investigations, gave away informants and stole evidence. Their parliament is stacked with oligarchs or their flunkies, bimbos, war criminals, useful idiots of all stripes and colors. They caused no less than three major ecological catastrophes in the past 5 years through shady deals with foreign shell companies and fucked every national budget three ways to Sunday.
Everyone in Serbia who holds any amount of power knows their days are numbered if Serbia ever becomes a democratic state with strong rule of law - which is a risk if they integrate with the west. But they also know how opposing the west will end. Ideally they want to trick the west with overtures; get a windfall in investment and political favors - but still continue being a corrupt, amoral shit-hole below the surface.
Funny thing is they're getting their wish: the west is so desperate to finally get Serbia off the list of problems in Europe that they chose appeasement (again) as soon as Serbia made the most shallow of concessions and the US is busy handing them Bosnia and, to a lesser degree, MonteBlack wrapped in a bow.
>Their chief of police (a bimbo in her 30s)
What's her name? I can't find her.
is this supposed to be hot....?
i said bimbo ie. a woman of loose morals, artificial appearance and shallow lifestyle/personality. i did not say hot, you made that assumption.
>Their chief of police (a bimbo in her 30s) was a fuck-toy for half the mob
Name? Just out of curiosity because wikipedia claims the head of police is a dude called Vladimir Rebec
she was arrested for helping arrange a hit, and being so retarded about it nobody could or would cover for her anymore.
they want to join the EU so they're taking a friendlier stance towards Kosovo and slowly refusing Russian influences
Damn, looks like I need to change my skin.
>Has a Serbian Minecraft skin
I live in Canada. We have around 40M people. Servia has 7M. Canada's GDP per capita is around 52K USD per resident, Serbia is around 9K. Despite being a semi-wealthy country, Canada can barely afford a credible Navy, Air Force, and Army.That shit is expensive. We could, but then we'd have to stop spending on other things like education, infrastructure, and healthcare.
Serbia, you need stop pretending to be a real country and buying shit you don't need. You can't afford a bucking air force, at least not a credible one. Spend your money more wisely or everyone will continue leaving, you will continue being poor, and your planes will serve no earthly deterrence. No one is going to invade you and you have no ability to invade anyone else. This is pathetic. If you really want a military, spend your money wisely on: Infantry, drones, artillery, SAMs, EW and proper training.
Bosnian fingers wrote this
Canadian of 0% Balkan descent. You need to fix your problems.
Everyone forgets that back in the 80s Yugoslavia was attempting to make their own Rafale clone.
Didn't Russia or Belarus donate a bunch of modernized MIG29s just 2 or 3 years ago to Serbia? Doesn't make sense to already search for a new plane. Seems more like posturing to me because Croatia is getting Rafales.
See
Yugoslavia always had a weird French and Russian kick.
>not sucking circumsized anglo dick at every possible opportunity is a weird kick
>bringing anglo and dicksucking out of nowhere
You ok anon?
no conversation involving serbs can go without the mention of circumcised dick. don't worry about it, just a national past-time.
Vučić wants into EU, and he doesn't really care about what others wants, just playing it safe enough to don't walk out of the window.
This is false he is just paying lip service to EU,he doesn't want to change current status quo,Serbs hoped that Russia is more powerful than it is.
He made Serbian army switch to NATO doctrine, and train with NATO soldiers. Serbians are hopelessly pro-russian though.
What kinda of a doctrine did serbia had before? You do realise they are surrounded by are landlocked of course they are going to have one or two exercise with nato.
Lizard lips knows how the toast gets buttered, so yea, he would into EU. His problem is the same as any other smart Serbian politician's: he works with one of the most retarded voting publics in the world, namely Serbs.
Give them to Ukraine, use the good will gesture to coy favour with Nato and and get an equal amount of heavily discounted Rafales/F-16's.
How do you imagine Serbia would support Russian airframes when Russia can't generate enough sorties to crush Ukraine?
You don't just buy aircraft like a new riding mower and run it for years on blades and oil. Just training their pilots takes many sorties (noobs forget what sorties are for) which wears out parts and requires periodic maintenance and repair.
>Didn't Russia or Belarus donate a bunch of modernized MIG29s just 2 or 3 years ago to Serbia?
All have been silently donated to Ukraine (:
Serbians are starting to realize that there's life after Pussia. Come home, unibrow man.
At this point do you really think Russia has the capacity to upkeep their own planes let alone some other country's?
>have migs
>have to left Russia service them since they're the ones making the parts and with the knowhow
>Russians are incompetent and every aircraft they service is rendered unfit for flight
>also Russia can't make parts anymore
yeah it's really hard to understand why Serbia would do this lmao
I mean they don't really have much choice, Russian weapon exports are kind of fucked for the foreseeable future. Being friends with Russia is kind of fucked for the foreseeable future even
the MiG-29 is a 50 year old relic while the Rafale is very recent, the choice is a no-brainer
I like the Rafale 🙂
The Rafale, is fully the equal of the F-35, Su-57 and J-20 as a fifth generation fighter. Like the KF-21, it is a 4.5 gen with development potential to be further upgraded to fifth gen. That is why many countries, such as India, Indonesia, Qatar and the UAE which have requested F-35s or were looking at other fifth gen options like the Su-75 and KF-21, are now Rafale users.
The Eurofag Typhoon meanwhile remains a 4-4.5 generation aircraft with no further development potential, and the countries who are using it primarily (UK, Italy, Spain etc) are all F-35 users and have no incentive to develop it further
Rafale is a fifth generation aircraft
Put the wine down, Pierre, you're drunk.
Frogs are such bad, self important posters
Soclé comme baise
You forgot
>thank you for coming to my TED talk
Wait, Serbia does something that isnt self-destructive? Impressive.
Et toi*
SAABsisters... the affordable light fighter concept...
>be Argentina.
>"strategic NATO ally".
>have to beg for mediocre fighter jets because britain (but mostly lack of will to invest enough money).
>be serbia.
>hated by everyone around them.
>technically on frozen conflict with NATO and still waiting to strike at the NATO occupation with openly genocidal intent.
>get rafales.
im at the edge of my sanity...
Why are Rafale exports so much higher than the other Eurocanards?
Are the Germans being bitches about who's allowed to purchase Typhoons? Do people not buy Gripens because of all the American components it uses?
What does Argentina even need fighter jets for?
not getting fucked by chileans or brazilians the second democracy fails again on this shithole of a continent.
That's nice and all but is that really what you need those jets for?
sadly the brits arent poor enough to try again, they still have 2-3 more tory governments left.
How could Brazil invade Argentina? By teleport? Why would Chile want anything of Argentina?
Only Jane Goodall could explain such things and she's dead.
>How could Brazil invade Argentina? By teleport?
Is the American education REALLY THIS BAD?
>What does Argentina even need fighter jets for?
So they won't have to watch someone's else air forces securing their airspace during the visit of foreign delegations, because they can only deploy subsonic Pampa, or turboprop Pucara.
The french don’t give a fuck about nato
they do when it suits them
True, we're only using nato when it suits us.
Angl*s can go fuck themselves, hope they all die!
Selling Marconi/Racal/Thales (or at least their assets) to the French was a mistake.
Oui
I couldn't have said it better, bien parlé cher compatriote
ever heard the parable of the prodigal son? well, western decision makers did - only without getting the point. serbia not trying to genocide anyone for a solid decade is in the minds of many western politicians as praise-worthy as neighboring countries following western foreign policy in lock-step and sending troops to die in afghtanistan, iraq or wherever.
Croatia already bought 12 Rafals. Serbs seething and playing catch up as usual.
Serbia's path is probably something like Hungary or Austria. A neutral-ish state with strong sympathies for Russia but happy to take EU money.
I think every balkan country should be annexed by turkey.
I'd rather they be annexed by the Adriatic
Inshallah brother.