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250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cyпepнoвa - пидop, зaeбaл

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Caius

        Use literally anyone else dude.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Пoшёл нaхyй, кycaй зa хyй

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      пoшёл нaхyй нaцык

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pfffhahaha

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's Russian and translates correctly when you set it manually. I have no idea why gtrans detects Tajik, maybe it's the trans conspiracy pidors keep talking about?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Supernova - gayot, fricked up

      Пoшёл нaхyй, кycaй зa хyй

      Frick off, frick off

      пoшёл нaхyй нaцык

      Frick you butthole

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that one of those drones with anti-air missiles?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that a K-13?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      R-73

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        TY anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      R-73

      R-60s and R-73s

      Considering that the main headache of drone boats are helicopters, I expected manpads, not R-73

      >manpads
      Manpads need a MAN to aim them. That's why they're called that.

      R-60 and R-73 and short-range, self-guiding, fire-and-forget soviet missiles of which Ukraine should have a ready stock and which they haven't been able to utilize because of their short range. Now they are air-to-air missiles that were meant to be launched from soviet birds, and reportedly Ukraine still hasn't yet resolved launching them successfully from UWUs, but they would be ideal against the fat rotary slampigs that Russia uses to guard against UWUs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what helicopter is it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this doesn't seem that great for Russia, it's a case where the economic argument for drones actually works out, they just need to get lucky once while the heli crew needs to be lucky all the time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >R-60s and R-73s
        The one equiping the boat is definitely an R-73 though
        R-60s are obsolete and Ukraine probably doesn't have any.
        You never see their Su-25s flying with AAMs even though they still have the pylons for them. This strongly suggests they're no longer used since R-60 is the only one that can be carried on Su-25

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >R-60s are obsolete
          against what targets?
          >Ukraine probably doesn't have any
          This is moronic assumption, why wouldn't Ukraine have mass produced Soviet AA missiles?
          >You never see their Su-25s flying with AAMs even though they still have the pylons for them
          because Su-25 are never in range of anything that those rockets can hit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is moronic assumption, why wouldn't Ukraine have mass produced Soviet AA missiles?
            Missiles have a shelflife, once the majority of aircraft that carried the R-60 were retired there is no need to keep refurbishing old missiles in numbers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Manpads need a MAN to aim them. That's why they're called that.
        MANPAD and those missile work the same way.

        but how do they get a fricking lock with these Black person rigged missiles?

        By using the electronic interface? With those missiles you get a sound tone to know if the seeker is locked into something, then you uncage she seeker so it can gimbal on its own and launch it.

        what helicopter is it?

        Mi-8 maybe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >UWUs
        Furries?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Underwater Weapons, Unmanned.

          The ones piloted by furries are OWO UWU's.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Manpads need a MAN to aim them. That's why they're called that.
        >R-60 and R-73 and short-range, self-guiding, fire-and-forget soviet missiles
        I thought you were going to go on a rant about seeker FOV but no, you're actually fricking moronic.
        Unlike Britbong insanity like the Blowpipe, most MANPADS are fire and forget IR seekers as well.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Could be the weapon that fricked up A-50.
    Makes sense why they used flairs so much,

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Flares esl.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Budanov has fricking zero chill

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering that the main headache of drone boats are helicopters, I expected manpads, not R-73

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Manpads are needed at the front. R-73s are probably gathering dust in warehouses since there aren't enough planes to mount them on.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good. I was waiting when they'll do this. With black sea fleet on brink of extinction the boats can roam freely. Most resistance is met near shore, where simple missile can overcome it as well as allow striking nearby land targets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      these are anti-air missiles. They're to take down the rotary aviation that Russia tries to use as a counter to to Ukie UWUs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tries to use
        >tries
        You having to put it like this made me happier today 🙂 thanks anon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tries to use
          Well, they did suffer one more loss last night while it was docked in harbor

          [...]

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not gonna lie, I thought it was bullshit, but damn, they actually did it, and for once the russians weren't lying.
    >suicide, anti-air, sea drones
    Can't say I predicted this one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >suicide, anti-air, sea drones
      Need a new Bingo card.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ..can this work?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably. But it won't have the listed range of an R-60/73 because those numbers take into account the the missile being fired by a fast moving jet. This on will need to fight gravity and loft itself. It is a 3 meter, 100kg missile so its no agile Igla/Stinger. The question is how much will the performance be impacted, and will it be useful after the inevitable performance hit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but how do they get a fricking lock with these Black person rigged missiles?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but how do they get a fricking lock with these Black person rigged missiles?
          They don't, these are pretty old fashioned IR seekers.
          You know how early IR missiles are described as growling as they sound a tone that gets clearer as it locks and the pilot then fires? That's because the seeker is on the missile and the tone is the missile reporting that it has a lock, not the aircraft's fire control systems.
          This is similar, they're kind of just launched in pitbull and either they have a lock of they don't. There could well be some sort of feedback to let the drone operator know that the missile thinks it has a lock.
          And the helos its targetting aren't being very evasive or they won't stop the boat, see

          [...]
          R-60s and R-73s

          [...]
          >manpads
          Manpads need a MAN to aim them. That's why they're called that.

          R-60 and R-73 and short-range, self-guiding, fire-and-forget soviet missiles of which Ukraine should have a ready stock and which they haven't been able to utilize because of their short range. Now they are air-to-air missiles that were meant to be launched from soviet birds, and reportedly Ukraine still hasn't yet resolved launching them successfully from UWUs, but they would be ideal against the fat rotary slampigs that Russia uses to guard against UWUs.

          and imagine you're trying to shoot down that helo from the water, it's not a hard job.

          https://i.imgur.com/bX8Gxwb.jpeg

          Vindicated

          >Van Riper
          lol, vidicated indeed

          can a2a missiles just be fired from the ground without any modifications? don't control surfaces/rollerons need airflow over them to work? wouldn't the whole thing spin out of control when launched from a stationary platform?
          >inb4 moron
          it's literal rocket science

          >can a2a missiles just be fired from the ground without any modifications?
          Depends on the missile, they'll need some fire control system at least. Possibly a booster charge depending on the missile but usually they're ok to be ground launched, just not as good.

          > don't control surfaces/rollerons need airflow over them to work?
          They'll have that a second after the rocket engine fires, while the missile is still slow it's probably still in the tube or on a rail and it doesn't matter and once it gets up to speed the problem is solved.
          It's really just a question of getting up to a decent airspeed before leaving the tube I guess but regardless, the rocket thrust is going to send them in a straight line initially and the control surfaces will have authority once speed gets up to enough to worry about them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isn't it the case of turn on the active seeker and hope for the best?
          Or, considering the fact that it took at least a year before these drones appeared, it was quite the engineering/coding challenge

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's an R-73 so it has about 60° off-boresight seeker view too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If these are just enough of a threat to get the helicopters to try and engage them from further away, then it will have achieved its goal of reducing the effectiveness of helicopters against them.

        Now, if the Russians start doing zoom and booms with fighter jets as their primary way of dealing with UWU's, the Ukies might need to come up with a better solution, but what they have now in theory should be ok.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >zoom and booms with fighter jets
          Over open water?
          That's probably the ideal engagement scenario for manpads vs fast movers. Taking out a single fighter bomber would be worth the loss of a flotilla of UWUs.

          It might still be worth it for the Russians but Ukraine doesn't need to come up with a solution, just be ready to react in the right ways with what they're already sending.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I suppose it depends on how soon Ukraine is able to pick up the arrival of the aircraft.

            Going by what

            [...]
            R-60s and R-73s

            [...]
            >manpads
            Manpads need a MAN to aim them. That's why they're called that.

            R-60 and R-73 and short-range, self-guiding, fire-and-forget soviet missiles of which Ukraine should have a ready stock and which they haven't been able to utilize because of their short range. Now they are air-to-air missiles that were meant to be launched from soviet birds, and reportedly Ukraine still hasn't yet resolved launching them successfully from UWUs, but they would be ideal against the fat rotary slampigs that Russia uses to guard against UWUs.

            ,

            https://i.imgur.com/UiOMtRm.png

            Probably. But it won't have the listed range of an R-60/73 because those numbers take into account the the missile being fired by a fast moving jet. This on will need to fight gravity and loft itself. It is a 3 meter, 100kg missile so its no agile Igla/Stinger. The question is how much will the performance be impacted, and will it be useful after the inevitable performance hit.

            and

            It's an R-73 so it has about 60° off-boresight seeker view too.

            have said about the current R-73 missiles the UWU's are carrying, they'll need to angle the boats to face them and fire well in advance for the missile to have a chance to hit the jets as they come in for a pass.

            If they upgrade the missile to something that is much nimbler and has a better tracking ability, then even the jet fighter strat becomes unpractical, but I'm just not sure that the R-73 is up for the task.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I suppose it depends on how soon Ukraine is able to pick up the arrival of the aircraft.
              Like I told your sister, only the first hit is free.

              The first overflight is going to catch the drone operators by surprise but if they've got a RWR on-board, which is pretty easy to do, maybe not even that.
              Without any sensors though...the first overflight is free but probably the pilot's not shooting on that one and once they get a visual, come back for a live run. If the drone pilot noticed the overflight, they're ready.
              The biggest problem is that there's probably no sound from the drone so the drone pilot wouldn't hear the fighter bomber scream over them, they'd probably have to notice by shots hitting the water or the jet flying in front of the drone's field of view.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can a2a missiles just be fired from the ground without any modifications? don't control surfaces/rollerons need airflow over them to work? wouldn't the whole thing spin out of control when launched from a stationary platform?
    >inb4 moron
    it's literal rocket science

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vindicated

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no Van Riper you can't have speed boats with instant communication, armed with rockets blasting blasting modern fleets

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >instant communications
        I don't think bike couriers traveling at the speed of light is possible

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally nothing wrong with light signals outside of low visibility. calling it "instant communications" is just spin by some frustrated US general.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But he was using motorcycle couriers that for the purposes of the drill he was saying moved the same speed as laser or radio communications.

            Riper's missile boats problem wasn't the concept of missile boats, it was putting this missile (which weighs in excess of 2 tons) on a tiny motorboat.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >armed with rockets
        The problem is that he was doing it with P-15 Termit missiles with a 1000lb warhead. Not a R-73 with a 16lb one.

        literally nothing wrong with light signals outside of low visibility. calling it "instant communications" is just spin by some frustrated US general.

        There's a difference between using light signals for ATC so you don't have to radio the pilots from the tower, and having comms between frontline units and artillery crews with light signals when there's no LOS between the participants.
        >calling it "instant communications" is just spin by some frustrated US general
        No, it fricking isn't. Due to the way the simulation worked there was no way to introduce a time lag, the motorcyclist falling off a cliff or a river, triggering a landmine, getting captured, etc or miscommunication happening. So when Riper said "I'll use motorcycle messengers to avoid jamming" he just piggybacked off the reliability and instant nature of radio to make his 3rd world methods work perfectly.
        He also knew the location of an air assault landing through metagaming, and called in a chemical weapons strike on it to kill the Marines. People cry about the military forcing him to stick to the script but he was the one who abused the fact that he had "read the script" to know what was going to happen ahead of time and use it to counter US tactics.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The problem is that he was doing it with P-15 Termit missiles with a 1000lb warhead. Not a R-73 with a 16lb one.
          sure, fair, okay
          but given the fact that drones and drone launched munitions are continuing to rapidly improve in specialisation and deadliness surely this is just a question of time?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you need a drone to launch an ASM, why not just make an ASM with greater range so you can launch it from a safe distance?
            The Ukie naval drones managed to get in range of Russian ships because their CIWS rarely work and they have to put Ivans on the deck to fire AKs.
            The swarm concept looks good on paper, until you realize that a functional navy that can just send a couple of helicopters with Hellfires and APKWS can pop the swarm for cheaper than you can make a swarm of drones capable of carrying a payload that could sink a warship.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              at the very least the AA drones will ensure that you can't just intercept them with helicopters

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He also knew the location of an air assault landing through metagaming, and called in a chemical weapons strike on it to kill the Marines. People cry about the military forcing him to stick to the script but he was the one who abused the fact that he had "read the script" to know what was going to happen ahead of time and use it to counter US tactics.

          I don't know why I'm surprised about That Guy being allowed to play in a official government war game when it's inevitable that one will show up sooner or later.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who was the bigger homosexual? The guy rules lawyering or the the ones stacking everything in their favor?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Definitely the guy making shit up. It's not a D&D campaign with a bunch of homebrew shenanigans because fun, it's an official wargame. You can't just cast telepathy on your bicycle messengers and the closest to instant non-radio methods like reflectors flashing code and gods damned smoke signals come with their own problems.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The guy who programed the computers and forgot that the IRL position of the fleet wasn't the same as the simulated position. Resulting in the missiles which were impossible to launch from the 1 ton boats to be instantly teleported inside Blue ships because the IRL position a few miles from shore was put into the simulation rather than the location they were supposed to be simulating namely the middle of the shipping lane two dozen miles away. Thus there wasn't even any simulated attempt to interdict the missiles as they insantly hit the ships. Ironically you can't launch silkworms at targets that close in reality.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The defense systems were also turned off because they kept locking onto civilian aircraft nearby.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The real question is: who makes it a more effective military exercise?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, except he was supposed to be playing Iran in 2002, not Ukraine in 2024 equipped with newfangled US satcom tech. Also, he was using Silkworms, not Aphids or Sidewinders. That was far from the worst of his offenses, however. Abusing the simulation startup sequence to spawn his Silkworm-packing virtual speedboats right next to the USN, which spawned in with all sensors and CIWS turned off, was far more of an issue.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is an UWU?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's when you notice someone's buldge

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russian drones are all over the USA
    Vid related.
    youtube.com/shorts/e9tZOYdIoc8

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1787460029068795990
    Video OP's image is from

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why it got taken down, but here's what the navy has been working on recently.
    https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/sna-2024/2024/01/navsea-showcases-development-of-armed-small-usvs/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably because the homosexual mass replied to literally every post the damn thread up to that point.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Did you really need to autistically tag every post in the thread?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Slapping cheap old IR missiles on fancy RC boats is one of those ideas so good it's stupid. You just know eggheads have come up with that several times just to bin it because they thought they'd get laughed out of the room.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you think this is? Top secret test failed and washed up on shore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >unmanned aerial vehicle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aquatic*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that a torpedo with a wireless router strapped to it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Is that a torpedo with a wireless router strapped to it?
        It washed up in SoCal so it could be anything from a development test to USN training to a local scientific team studying ocean currents or fish populations or mapping sea beds.

        The actual drone is some variant on the Remus 600 line. It's not a 620 and it's not an exact match for a 600 but there are lots of variants and custom builds of the 600 series so it doesn't mean much. It's lost its tail fins/stabilizers somehow and most of them have an extra antenna on the front that's missing but not all of them use it. Doesn't seem to have side sonar on that one so it's /probably/ not a naval one but maybe not all of those have it.

        Houthis said they captured one that washed up there too.

        Sticker price on that is $500k to $1m.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What do you think this is? Top secret test failed and washed up on shore
      See

      https://i.imgur.com/4npdcdh.jpeg

      >Is that a torpedo with a wireless router strapped to it?
      It washed up in SoCal so it could be anything from a development test to USN training to a local scientific team studying ocean currents or fish populations or mapping sea beds.

      The actual drone is some variant on the Remus 600 line. It's not a 620 and it's not an exact match for a 600 but there are lots of variants and custom builds of the 600 series so it doesn't mean much. It's lost its tail fins/stabilizers somehow and most of them have an extra antenna on the front that's missing but not all of them use it. Doesn't seem to have side sonar on that one so it's /probably/ not a naval one but maybe not all of those have it.

      Houthis said they captured one that washed up there too.

      Sticker price on that is $500k to $1m.

      Probably not a top secret test because it's only a slight variant on a publicly available commercial drone so there's no reason not to put your name on it. We can only see one side of it though maybe there's some identifiers on the other side.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    back when i was still in the greek army i gave them many suggestions
    1)automate 100 m1113 into mobile missile launchers of aim 9x and aim120s and or drones
    2)make small weird subs capable of carrying 10 aim120s at 20-25 meters(mainly to avoid civilian traffic)
    3)i never really though of usv's carrying missiles tho it seems stupid they cant have a good enough radar nor they seem to have any link nor they can hide good enough it seemed like a good tradeoff for decoys tho
    4)i strongly suggested to make a passive radar system using civilian tv antennas considering that they cover 100% of my country this would have being a dead drop cheap ass solution
    5)build more mini zubr's enough to hold 60 men but with a bigger top speed and armed to the teeth with guided rockets
    6)instead of paying for the f35 they should use the 10 bill to get either into tempest or fcas (didnt knew how shit our aerospace company was so it was off the table)
    7)develop a 100-150kw laser since we already have the know how this would be easy enough
    8)mandate to build a bigger fdi frigate from the french (turns out they did have a design but it never went ahead)

    but as always the politicians decided till this day to do nothing hell they are even discussing to upgrade my old ass meko ships that are past their MLU phase and already at retiring age

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Coming soon to a south china sea near you!

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long does everyone reckon until the primary role of USVs becomes dispersed AA/ASh capability instead of being suicide drones?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It will probably always remain a combi-role, as you can fill so much more explosive into the craft than you can into the missile it's carrying. If it's going after shipping, the range it's most likely to be successful in is also the range where it's no more than a ten minute sprint away from the ships itself.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's no way the boat would survive a launch, right?

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