>drone meta?

>drone meta? huh
>Tyrone, post the buck breakers

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No you don't understand, drones are uncounterable. Can't shoot them, can't jam them, can't use lasers to zap them down, can't mount anything to block or deflect anything they drop, can't even use other drones to intercept the enemy drones because the tanks are obsolete gays said so

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If anyone ever says "nuh uh you can't counter it" to anything, it is complete bullshit. They are huffing their own sci fi ideas and thinking they are real instead of speculitive at best.

      https://i.imgur.com/8LPrSJr.jpg

      dronetards unironically believe that the multipolar world free of globohomosexual will come about because of cheap Chinese and Iranian drones which no one ever thought about countering even though remotely operated vehicles have existed since the 1940s in some form or other

      you are a moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pack it up guys
        has just informed me that drones are, in fact, uncounterable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He doesn't know the Taliban or whoever the frick we were fighting in Afghanistan had drones since the late 2000's and the US already largely adapted before we left.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Drones are God

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        according to

        [...]
        [...]
        you are a moron

        maybe we should get used to praying to DGI, seeing as us puny fleshbags have no way to stop them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Drones are gray goo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/bTfQjkn.jpg

      >drone meta? huh
      >Tyrone, post the buck breakers

      If anyone ever says "nuh uh you can't counter it" to anything, it is complete bullshit. They are huffing their own sci fi ideas and thinking they are real instead of speculitive at best.

      Whenever i read shit like this i laugh at the accident of history that resulted in the DPRK having 50K+ 14.5mm AA barrels. The worlds most backwards military power accidentally is the one well equipped to deal with drones.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >barrels
        Kek, ok. Do they also have targeting systems or are they just eyeballing it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Alot actually do have guidance, they have close to 1000 radar aimed ZPU-4 batteries. Of course alot doesn't like the guns on 323s and tanks but against handheld drones radar is mostly useless anyway.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The worlds most backwards military power accidentally is the one well equipped to deal with drones.
        Drone can be shot down with Mosin, you think army with most Mosins is best equipped to deal with drones?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, we are talking about guns specifically designed to shoot at aircraft. Also practice your English, it needs work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You can't kill it.
      >Why the frick not?
      >...
      >Well?
      >It's very resilient.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone ever says "nuh uh you can't counter it" to anything, it is complete bullshit. They are huffing their own sci fi ideas and thinking they are real instead of speculitive at best.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dronetards unironically believe that the multipolar world free of globohomosexual will come about because of cheap Chinese and Iranian drones which no one ever thought about countering even though remotely operated vehicles have existed since the 1940s in some form or other

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The really funny thing about that idea is that a drone era would just mean that the west would beat the rest on numbers as well as quality

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If the current MIC numbers and strategy are a sign of things to come, UAVs for frontline combat would be relegated to very specific units that most grunts will never interact with. Meaning that they will lose effectiveness and they will be overtly complex and expensive for no fricking reason at all.
          >See switchblade performance for what can be expected from the west in the future

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the switchblade is for HVTs not mass combat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dumbass.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/bTfQjkn.jpg

        >drone meta? huh
        >Tyrone, post the buck breakers

        a lot of the thirdies newbies and war tourists unironically think that lasers are scifi and almost none of them understand how E-War works. you have people who unironically cannot understand why you would want a manned NGAD-like drone mothership commanding a group of loyal wingman drones over a pure drone deployment.
        on the other hand you also have people who cannot understand why lasers can't replace missiles on aircraft so

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >which no one ever thought about countering even though remotely operated vehicles have existed since the 1940s in some form or other
        What is the point of this example? Drones can be countered a thousand ways, but none of those methods are _efficient_ at the moment, because drones are cheap. The exact same problem makes protectionism not work - every country can make every product given enough money. It's the lowering of price per unit that makes trade and specialization valuable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >none of these methods are efficient

          Yea, bro. A couple of dollars of diesel to fuel the generator that powers the DEW-SHORAD systems is gonna break the bank when frying drones. Pay no attention to the fact that defense has historically been more expensive then offense regardless and yet we continue to buy, develop, and field things like CRAM, CWIS, and many other defensive counter-measures.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Yea, bro. A couple of dollars of diesel to fuel the generator that powers the DEW-SHORAD systems is gonna break the bank when frying drones.
            Yes, a few dozen drones that cost 20k in total repeatedly overwhelming a system worth half a mil. could break the bank.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm going to blanket the entire area with enough density of munitions to achieve saturation, it'll be cheap!
              >what is a kill chain and what do you mean the enemy doesn't glow on a minimap in real life?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ignore him, i'm a Norktard and even by our standards he is a idiot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Yea, bro. A couple of dollars of diesel to fuel the generator that powers the DEW-SHORAD systems is gonna break the bank when frying drones.

            You light that shit up at the Ukrainan frontline and every Russian EW system will see you because you just flipped on a super powerful radio wave flashlight. Next thing that happens is that you get a load of 152 mm on your position. These anti-drone systems are meant for colonial warfare because haji does not know anything about electronic warfare. That is why no one takes your bullshit seriously.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >These anti-drone systems are meant for colonial warfare because haji does not know anything about electronic warfare
              >muh desert war!
              why haven't you gays realized that this instantly outs you as someone to be ignored?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              DE-M-SHORAD is designed to intercept artillery btw
              also, are we seriously pretending that yank doctrine isn't centered around using their frickhuge airforce to destroy and surpress artillery before advancing?
              I'm sorry that Ukraine cannot into combined arms though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm sorry that Ukraine cannot into combined arms though
                because they don't have the equipment moron

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Next thing that happens is that you get a load of 152 mm on your position.
              The next thing that happens is that the platform moves, because that's what mobile platforms do when they are forced to emit within range of enemy artillery
              Or at least that's what western platforms do anyway

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          jamming and microwaves are efficient

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bullets can be countered a thousand ways as well but bullets are far cheaper than body armor.

          Body armor costs hundred and hundreds of dollars to block a single bullet which is way cheaper.

          That's proof that body armor is helpless against bullets and we should accept bullet supremacy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Autocannon rounds are cheaper than drones
          Small drones wouldn't even be a threat if everyone hadn't systematically dismantled every active SPAAG unit sometime around the 1980s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The issue with lasers is sustainability of firepower. Right now across all kinds of tech like EVs, solar and wind, cellphones, we are running into limitations due to battery capacity. EVs are very heavy due to the amount of batteries they have, yet still have reasonably limited drive range. 600km at best currently with high charge times. And thats with 175kw chargers.

        A mobile laser platform would be very heavy due to all the lithium batteries, and even a 50kw laser, which isnt that high power, would drain those batteries fast. The israeli video of a laser shooting down a missile was 200kw I believe. A Tesla S model has a 100 kWh battery pack.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You don't need a massive battery block moron, just a diesel generator hooked up to an alternator.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thats feasible as a stationary AA platform or maybe a mobile SAM equivalent, but thats not a great drone counter in highly mobile combat brigades, now is it. And they are the ones who need a counter to FPV type drones.

            the lasers in the OP are 50kw, they're actually thinking of shifting to 28kw.
            it's SHORAD, the point is to intercept munitions, and the fact that it's Stryker mounted leads me to believe I'm correct in saying it's going to be providing tactical, platoon level protection, rather than strategic air defence. which is to say, range isn't as important as rapidly putting energy in a precise point.
            also, it's very silly to pretend lasers don't have deeper magazines than cannons

            Thats my point. The rapidity and sustainability of deploying lasers as a drone counter. You need some way to keep the electricity flowing. And generators or hooking up to the grid arent realistic options for a frontline unit, especially when in active combat, so you need batteries. And battery tech is just fairly limited right now.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              are you moronic? how much battery storage do you think is necessary for a 50kw laser? you know it's an entire Stryker converted for this right? the troop compartment is completely converted. you would need at most 4 seconds to disable a drone and that's being very generous, I would suspect drones and mortar shells would take a second or less to detonate. the greatest challenge is by far the targetting software which has to hit a moving target, and prioritise between multiple targets, in a single square centimetre over a duration (the duration depends on the output and on the material of the target)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For it to sustain fire for 1 second it would need a 50kW battery, obviously. So putting in the equivalent of a Tesla battery, it can fire for one hour. That weighs about 1000lbs. If you want it to be able to be on the line for a few days of deployment and sustain fire, it will need to be almost nothing but batteries.

                Another thing is that you cant put out a lithium fire and it will melt steel. Any hit that causes a fire would result in a total loss.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're moronic, like ASTRONOMICALLY moron for assuming ANY of these devices are battery powered.

                For all of the reasons YOU POINT OUT, NONE of these systems are battery powered, they all use some form of on-board and on-demand power generation because having a massive hundreds of pounds battery for seconds worth of output makes 0 sense.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >but thats not a great drone counter in highly mobile combat brigades, now is it.
              Literally every single combat vehicle in US inventory has an integrated generator on board you moron, its called a fricking engine

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the lasers in the OP are 50kw, they're actually thinking of shifting to 28kw.
          it's SHORAD, the point is to intercept munitions, and the fact that it's Stryker mounted leads me to believe I'm correct in saying it's going to be providing tactical, platoon level protection, rather than strategic air defence. which is to say, range isn't as important as rapidly putting energy in a precise point.
          also, it's very silly to pretend lasers don't have deeper magazines than cannons

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >we are running into limitations due to battery capacity.
          1. You dumb
          2. You dumb.
          3. Guess what? You dumb and repeat boomer fuddlore from the year 1980. Wake up it is 2024.
          Energy is no problem for platform designed with energy weapons in mind.
          https://www.aviationtoday.com/2021/03/09/honeywell-developing-new-clean-energy-turbogenerator/

          Real gating is cooling capacity.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks lasers will be powered by battery packs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >200kW load
          >100kWh source
          >30 minutes continuous operation
          Doesn't sound like much, but how long are these pulses? Couldn't be more than 10 seconds. I'm thinking that's plenty.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bruh that scifi shit is about as real as your 12th booster was.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          contrarian detected, opinion ignored

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The shilling and psyops on this board has gotten to the point where it’s just sad. I feel like this thread wasn’t made by the usual morons but instead some woman in the office who’s just going off of the script to find the words to use.

          It’s amazing how mad thirdies are about real, existing US weapons and systems

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >thirdies
            >vatniks
            >polgays
            >incels
            You guys know you have to update the reply playbook every now and then, right?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              good point. here's another one
              >moron

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh sorry, did you have something substantive to say about the system in the OP? perhaps what’s wrong with it? Or maybe even just it’s name and what it is?

                Sorry that talking about real existing American weapons and systems is triggering to you, maybe the weapons board inhabited by gun owning Americans isn’t exactly a sage space for you

                It writes itself anons

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cool phone post. Maybe the next thing you could post would be on topic, or perhaps a gun you own?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Oh sorry, did you have something substantive to say about the system in the OP? perhaps what’s wrong with it? Or maybe even just it’s name and what it is?

              Sorry that talking about real existing American weapons and systems is triggering to you, maybe the weapons board inhabited by gun owning Americans isn’t exactly a sage space for you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who took a college level physics course will be able to tell you that lasers suck ass lol
        Airburst or even just plain birdshot is more practical

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its children. They don't remember all the ISIS drones from Syria, they don't remember the Obama years, this is all new to them and they think the sky is falling.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    very nice tyrone. there is nothing to worry about.
    >we didn't see it!!!!
    >it wasn't designed specifically for our system!!

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    drones are so easy to counter.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      huh I wonder who is behind this article
      >Kwan Wei Kevin Tan
      implessive

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        of course. it's fake news. No one has said that.
        an intelligent person like you can only be impressed with a bunch of Black folk posing with some useless chassis that have never seen real combat.
        the entire 5th fleet in the gulf struggling against alibaba drones is of course very implessive.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/p3JfYWE.png

      very nice tyrone. there is nothing to worry about.
      >we didn't see it!!!!
      >it wasn't designed specifically for our system!!

      of course. it's fake news. No one has said that.
      an intelligent person like you can only be impressed with a bunch of Black folk posing with some useless chassis that have never seen real combat.
      the entire 5th fleet in the gulf struggling against alibaba drones is of course very implessive.

      /misc/ is so weird

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Different anon, but why didn't they counter the drone attack in Jordan though?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because some peace time morons who have never been under fire were moronic and ignored their radars?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For a point of comparison, the Moskva is the largest surface combatant sunk in combat since WW2
      It doesn't take much to be a naval action larger than anything since WW2

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    huh, apparently this is in the ME right now for "threat contact testing" aka real world testing against actual adversary capabilities. neat

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The sheer insolence of this thread is simply astonishing. It's like reading armatard who suddenly decided to circlejerk shorad.
    Every fricking last of you is moron and you really should reflect on it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >insolence
      wut? do you even know what this word means

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll be as insolent as I want to be when speaking to dronegays thank you very much. homosexuals of your ilk have tainted any discussion regarding any piece of military equipment as I can guarantee all of you knew nothing about military usage of drones beyond the predator missile before Slavic Slapfight 2: This Time it's Personnel. Hell I'm willing to bet you weren't even here for the Nagorno-Karabakh War. No you see two nations, neither of whom is particularly well equipped or in any way in good shape, flounder with drones and think they represent everyone else

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    btw to be specific about American military battery storage capabilities in a specifically DE context you can look at this.
    https://www.ga.com/images/laser-weapon-systems/HELLI-ION-BATTERY-SYSTEM_BC_0421E.pdf
    I don't know if this is precisely what they use in the DE-M-SHORAD but I imagine it's in the same ballpark in terms of weight to storage and the output. check the 50kw range and then check the weight. I'd be willing to bet you could fit at least 6 in a Stryker but I'm curious now as to exactly how much they've got in there
    >450 seconds per setup at 50kw
    >4~ seconds to penetrate steel if able to hit the same square centimetre continuously
    >100 ish interceptions allowing for 80 ish efficiency of interception against purely steel targets (I think against mortars and drones you'll need less time but against spinning artillery I'd guess that's spot on)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So even worse thatn I thought. This would work on a nuclear reactor powered ship where energy is no concern. But a Flak battery just offers better economics against drones.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think ~600 interceptions is pretty gud tbqh. I mean, how many rounds do you think a gepard has? or even a Bradley? I really struggle to think of any system which isn't designed for regular munitions resupply besides submarines. and you can in fact charge the batteries between engagements

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          80 interceptions (well attempts, equivalent to shots) per 1000lbs of batteries. Thats a lot of logistics for not that much better performance. A Gepard supply train cheaper. And wouldnt result in a vehicle weighing close to the same as a MBT.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >80
            Wut?
            >1000ibs
            WUT?? You can literally see that a single 10 module system is 64 pounds. 10 sets of 10 module systems is 640 pounds, and each module provides about 450 seconds of continuous fire.
            I’m not going to bother replying to someone who can’t even engage with facts that are handed to him. Enjoy living in your fantasy land

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The 64lbs module is 18Ah. Or at 48v, 864 watts. It says 4kw per kg even. You need 10 of them for one second of fire. Thats 12 kg for one second of firimh. Do you even electricity.

              https://i.imgur.com/TPt8un7.jpg

              >we are running into limitations due to battery capacity.
              1. You dumb
              2. You dumb.
              3. Guess what? You dumb and repeat boomer fuddlore from the year 1980. Wake up it is 2024.
              Energy is no problem for platform designed with energy weapons in mind.
              https://www.aviationtoday.com/2021/03/09/honeywell-developing-new-clean-energy-turbogenerator/

              Real gating is cooling capacity.

              Generators require fuel, gives no advantage over a regular vehicle using flak. And syill increases logistical footprint.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Generators require fuel
                Boomer take.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Generators require fuel,
                So does the truck used to haul it around. Plumb it into the diesel tanks like any other auxiliary power unit and be done with it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Actually you’re right, it is 740 pounds for the full module
                You’re still wrong about the time though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >GENERATORS REQUIRE FUEL
                So do SPAA platforms, and they also require ammo

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Brown thirdy (American) cope thread.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Brown thirdy (American)
      Your sister would sell her every hole for a chance to move to US, ramesh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >jpg
      dummy

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How many can you build and deploy amongst all the BCTs?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there are only four extant, they are essentially prototypes. they were deployed to the middle east for combat testing in early feb

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there should just be unmanned AA systems like pic related following all units

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The shilling and psyops on this board has gotten to the point where it’s just sad. I feel like this thread wasn’t made by the usual morons but instead some woman in the office who’s just going off of the script to find the words to use.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    morons don't understand that anti drone systems will be the first thing to be destroyed
    their capabilities are also very limited: low range, drones are hard to spot
    a cardboard drone could possibly take them down

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting, so the drone will have to approach these short range systems and physically make contact?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >drone gets destroyed
        >send coordinates to artillery
        >profit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah guided artillery and reconnaissance is still a problem, I wonder if they’re working on a Stryker mounted system to intercept incoming artillery?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Actually come to think of it, if laser APSs improve and proliferate, maybe kinetic penetrators will find a new lease on life

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're really close to understanding why combined arms is and will continue to be the deciding factor in battle.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            combined arms is and will continue to be the deciding factor in destroying anti drone system as the first thing

            >morons don't understand that anti air missile systems will be the first thing to be destroyed
            >their capabilities are also very limited: high cost, limited altitude, jets are very maneuverable and fast
            >a sopwith camel could possibly take them out

            completely different you moron, AD has huge range
            their capabilities are not limited you moron

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >SHORAD isn’t AD because it just isn’t ok

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >counterbattery radar sees the enemy shoot
          >run away
          >now arty doesn't know where you are

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >morons don't understand that anti air missile systems will be the first thing to be destroyed
      >their capabilities are also very limited: high cost, limited altitude, jets are very maneuverable and fast
      >a sopwith camel could possibly take them out

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think I understand why any discussion of anti drone systems or tactics causes such immediate backlash these days. this war has been such a lifeline for the turd worlder, they see tanks and armies destroyed by jerryrigged hobby drones, and it makes them think that the age of whitey is over. They have become obsessed with muh cheap hobby drones as the end of warfare and the death of western armies. Hell, they unironically believe the US doesn’t develop drones at all as if they slept through the Obama years. So when you point out that there are systems which can disrupt, destroy or otherwise counter drones, especially hobby drones, they freak out. They see it as westerners coping with the fall of the west. And they simply cannot tolerate the idea that they will stay losing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's particularly funny since I remember laughing at videos of ISIS dropping grenades on vehicles in Syria and Afghanistan over half a decade ago at this point, yet somehow they never released stuff of them attacking Western forces the same way for some reason :^)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are a moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh? Want to explain how?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are morons so pissed that cheap drones are destroying multi-million equipment?
    These shitty anti drone systems will still be very easy to destroy... with drones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Poster count didn’t go up so I assume that

      you are a moron

      combined arms is and will continue to be the deciding factor in destroying anti drone system as the first thing
      [...]
      completely different you moron, AD has huge range
      their capabilities are not limited you moron

      >drone gets destroyed
      >send coordinates to artillery
      >profit

      morons don't understand that anti drone systems will be the first thing to be destroyed
      their capabilities are also very limited: low range, drones are hard to spot
      a cardboard drone could possibly take them down

      Are all one gay

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The best counter for hobby drones I never see posted is attacking the operators. A country with actual SIGNIT capabilities and a functioning airforce would be able to detect the radio emissions and trace them and conduct fire missions. Eventually hobby drones would have to conduct very short missions to try and finish and scoot before a package could be delivered, which means more forwards deployment of operators. It’s not to say that irregular guerilla warfare has no place and can’t succeed, but hobby drones will essentially become the new IED and raid, used to ambush logistics vehicles and harass FOBs. This is not nothing, they have uses, but theyre basically the same uses as IEDs and mortars. They’re absolutely not going to be suited to a fully modern saturated battlefield, but a saturated battlefield that isn’t fully modern will be, as we are seeing, a massacre.

    For recon and spotting, however, cheap drones are unironically totally revolutionary. They’re a wet dream for urban combat, for insurgents and counter insurgency, for artillery… I think a cheap but somewhat hardened camera drone will be a platoon level asset before long.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The best counter for hobby drones I never see posted is attacking the operators.
      This has been a big part of the drone war in Ukraine
      The Chinese government and Ukrainian drone operators have been locked in a non-stop software arms race as the Ukrainians find ways around DJI tracking software why the chinks frantically try to patch each new vulnerability in the code as it emerges
      I think this might actually represent the first large scale weaponisation of FOSS principles in war

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    , post the buck breakers

    Drone spots laser truck
    Artillery shoots laser truck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s designed to intercept artillery shells btw

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It’s designed to intercept artillery shells btw

        The classic C-ram mission is intercepting a string of 82 mm mortar shells or single 107/122 mm rockets raining down on the forward operating base. Now try again with a laser and ten 152 mm SPGs shooting at you. Some of them are firing submuntion carrier shells, so the onboard laser guidance radar system ignores them because they are clearly going to pass over the defended position. Then! Pop-pop-pop-pop and hundreds of submuntions fly out of the ass of the carrier shell bodies while the surviving bait 152 mm detonates on the ground. Your laser truck takes a hit by a submuntion and the shaped charge jet pierces the battery and causes a lithium battery fire.

        You have to learn the difference between the salesman bullshit and how it actually works or you are a notech brown amerimutt. This laser defense thing is a super niche thing whose primary purpose is to extract R&D dollars from the US military budget.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >American equipment won’t work because… it just won’t okay!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do seriously believe that the US is somehow unaware of the existence of cluster munitions?
          The solution is to target them first (you can spot them in flight by their ballistic profile but western militaries more typically rely on signals and long range reconnaissance for this task) and destroy them before they can deploy submunitions
          Failing that, you target the individual submunitions once deployed since your laser has perfect accuracy, an effectively infinite rate of fire and no tactically relevant ammunition constraints

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > amerimutt
          again. no one is going to listen to anyone who talks like this, this isn't /misc/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >has to come up with an elaborate fantasy to prove laser shorad is a worthless concept.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Artillery shells are very spinny and go fast, they are pretty much the last thing that lasers could intercept
        Additionally, the right mix of anti-laser adaptations would make the job much harder. Just using 5-round MRSI and adding a mirror finish to shells would make it roughly 50x as hard to stop the barrage

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what if the truck is moving? you can't guide it in with a drone if the drone gets zapped

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is /k/ seething about the ultimate anti-everything solution? It's just facts. Cheapness and quantity will overwhelm any defense, and you can't make armour that will resist artillery shells.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >what is dirt
      Russia is not pathetic and is very strong.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >abrams gets destroyed by drones
    >cope threads about anti drone systems show up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/DTPfU1M.jpg

      Why is /k/ seething about the ultimate anti-everything solution? It's just facts. Cheapness and quantity will overwhelm any defense, and you can't make armour that will resist artillery shells.

      lel thirdies have been absolutely seething this whole thread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you are the one seething the whole thread shitskin moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          bump

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >APS existed since 1980
    >nobody uses them
    >morons think this will somehow change with drones
    >everyone will just have these magic cars that will shoot all drones

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