Humans seem to actually be the limiting factor, if you don’t have infantry backup you’re screwed in something like a tank, just put one on top of the tank next to the mg
Shine a flashlight at your hand then at a wall far from you
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
How does that violate this drawing?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because your limit is power output. If you have a tight beam, you're able to affect the target at a greater distance, and the watts/m^2 will be much higher, allowing you to overpower the drone's source signal. If you increase your beams' width, you decrease your affective range, and your watts/m^2, which means you might not be able to overpower the source signal, along with having to do it at a much shorter range.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/NgJlLxk.jpg
How does that violate this drawing?
If you can get a concentrated signal strong enough to block someone thing 100 meters away, why not just spread that beam out radially 10 meters? It’s a force field.
inverse square law dumbass, and its not even the right principle. spreading the beam means the beam is gonna be less intense. inverse square is how it gets less intense over distance
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Right, so what’s wrong with this
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If you can get a concentrated signal strong enough to block someone thing 100 meters away, why not just spread that beam out radially 10 meters? It’s a force field.
if you have 10 meters of room that’s enough time for fpv to become useless and miss
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>10 meters
The drone is still coming at you on a set path
You won't dodge in time
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If it’s dead reckoning like shahed sure but fpv drones are manually controller and require the controller signal, if you block that it stays put. Unless if they program the hardware to move in the last known direction.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but fpv drones are manually controller and require the controller signal, if you block that it stays put
Have you never flown a fpv drone anon?
If you lose signal and have the failsafe off they will just keep doing whatever your last input was
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn’t know that, what about really big fans? Maybe even a jet turbine on top of a tank so it could evasive maneuver?
How about have a vehicle use a drone net of escort drones? Something like preemptively using a few drones above or around said vehicle with the sole purpose of suiciding incoming enemy drones by proximity? Like a form of ablative armor.
Quadrotors have pretty short battery lives. FPV drones without a payload can only fly around fast for like 5 minutes. Slower camera drones get like half an hour flight times.
Vehicles are able to carry much heavier, and more powerful systems. Those are made specifically for humans to carry, and are inherently limited by those design limitations.
This power should be reserved for humans only
why not make a vehicle out of them?
Anti drone drones are a good idea.
Humans seem to actually be the limiting factor, if you don’t have infantry backup you’re screwed in something like a tank, just put one on top of the tank next to the mg
Like why not just have a mesh drone configuration hovering and blast whatever signal to disable other drones upwards?
>nothing personal kiddo
They don't actually work against fpv drones btw
Why not? Just change the signal band
The beam is very tight
Fpv are just way too fast
If it’s a lower band why not just spread the beam then?
Because of square cube law
Explain
Shine a flashlight at your hand then at a wall far from you
How does that violate this drawing?
Because your limit is power output. If you have a tight beam, you're able to affect the target at a greater distance, and the watts/m^2 will be much higher, allowing you to overpower the drone's source signal. If you increase your beams' width, you decrease your affective range, and your watts/m^2, which means you might not be able to overpower the source signal, along with having to do it at a much shorter range.
If you can get a concentrated signal strong enough to block someone thing 100 meters away, why not just spread that beam out radially 10 meters? It’s a force field.
inverse square law dumbass, and its not even the right principle. spreading the beam means the beam is gonna be less intense. inverse square is how it gets less intense over distance
Right, so what’s wrong with this
if you have 10 meters of room that’s enough time for fpv to become useless and miss
>10 meters
The drone is still coming at you on a set path
You won't dodge in time
If it’s dead reckoning like shahed sure but fpv drones are manually controller and require the controller signal, if you block that it stays put. Unless if they program the hardware to move in the last known direction.
>but fpv drones are manually controller and require the controller signal, if you block that it stays put
Have you never flown a fpv drone anon?
If you lose signal and have the failsafe off they will just keep doing whatever your last input was
I didn’t know that, what about really big fans? Maybe even a jet turbine on top of a tank so it could evasive maneuver?
Maybe? Seems dumb
Best bet is laser turrets imo
Okay but lasers are gay
Forgive me i am half dead
isn't that just a P90 painted in green?
How about have a vehicle use a drone net of escort drones? Something like preemptively using a few drones above or around said vehicle with the sole purpose of suiciding incoming enemy drones by proximity? Like a form of ablative armor.
Like an actual net or do you mean a swarm of drones? Nets aren’t very effective.
You’d also have to prevent it from killing birds
Quadrotors have pretty short battery lives. FPV drones without a payload can only fly around fast for like 5 minutes. Slower camera drones get like half an hour flight times.
A force field would be better
That's what Coyote is, and Coyote block III is a HPM which flies close to the drones and fries them. Allowing it to be reusable.
Also:
Missiles are gay, throwing shit at drones is gay, frying it is kind of cool but I didn’t see that. We either need a microwave or lasers which are gay
enough with drone killers...
its time for drone fucking
Vehicles are able to carry much heavier, and more powerful systems. Those are made specifically for humans to carry, and are inherently limited by those design limitations.
OwO what’s that
Mobile-Low, Slow, Small Unmanned Aircraft Integrated Defeat System (M-LIDS)
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/m-lids-mobile-low-slow-small-unmanned-aircraft-integrated-defeat-system/
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/02/us-armys-evolving-counter-uas-m-lids-plan-puts-foreign-military-sales-on-backburner/
Full overview of the planned system:
https://asc.army.mil/web/news-innovation-draws-international-interest/
Coyote Block II