>drive 4 hours to the nearest trail. >ready with all my gear

>drive 4 hours to the nearest trail
>ready with all my gear
>decide to start at night so I can be at the peak during sunrise
>get lost 5 minutes in
>freak out
>desperately find my way out 2 hours later
>drive home crying
>always crash on the way home from how exhaust I was

Thousands of dollars in gear wasted. I'm too autistic to be out.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. You learned a lesson and I bet you don’t make the same mistake again. Just try again during the day. Once you get to know the area well enough, then try to be at the peak for sunrise. Alternatively, if you can camp out there, you can get close during the day then camp overnight then hike out after sunrise. You also get a bonus sunset.
    We all have trips we fucked up. You learn from them and do better next time.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If someone says this hasn't happened to them they're either lying or were fortunate enough to learn with someone more experienced.

    You gave it a shot and failed, next time start in the early morning (daylight). Don't quit.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now you have time to clean the piano room

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong person, I'm the piano room guy.

      https://i.imgur.com/HXE5pBQ.jpg

      >drive 4 hours to the nearest trail
      >ready with all my gear
      >decide to start at night so I can be at the peak during sunrise
      >get lost 5 minutes in
      >freak out
      >desperately find my way out 2 hours later
      >drive home crying
      >always crash on the way home from how exhaust I was

      Thousands of dollars in gear wasted. I'm too autistic to be out.

      It's ok, all you have to do is learn from your mistakes. I just got back from camping for the first time and made a bunch of mistakes. Before I went to bed in my tent, I took a mental note of everything I could of done better or improve and now I can't wait to go back out again....gotta use that Carinthia bivy I purchased!

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You’ve inspired my next out trip. Which is also a 4 hour drive. Did you bring a gps with loaded maps with you? That would give you a little bit more security in the future.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bring a gps
      you mean your phone?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, as long as you have a way to charge your battery when you’re out. Otherwise, it’s a good redundancy having a weather/water robust second gps device.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do people act like battery backup packs are some secret thing? There's charging cases with extra batteries as well as a variety of different chargers you can plug in with a cord.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing wrong with that, I have one that has a solar panel built into it, really reassuring. It’s also just having a backup device in case something happens to the phone.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think solar panels are going to gain much charge here. Too overcast and wooded. Solar panels are a bit of a meme at that size. I would just recommend a good big battery (20,000mA+) just in case and a no-subscription personal locator beacon like RescueMe (brand is irrelevant) if you wish.

              Just gotta remember to check your battery pack before you go to make sure it's charged. I bring two just in case.

              >It’s also just having a backup device in case something happens to the phone.
              that's what dead reckoning is for
              my dad often asks me "point where the car is" so I try to learn which direction in general we've headed and have yet to go/return
              that said, modern phones can handle getting wet, and I always keep it zipped up securely for stream crossings, steps, cliff edges, anything like that.

              If anything this board has taught me to GRIP my phone tightly with all the doomtalk about failed smartphones.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, it would take a couple days to solar charge enough to be practical. More of an emergency use or makes the battery charge last longer if you hang it on your pack. I mean yeah, plan c is having a topographic map of the area, and knowing how to use a compass. All of these things go hand in hand.

                My preferred pack is Phone with redundant batteries, secondary gps device, topo maps and compass (no electronics/batteries needed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                10w folding panel is lot lighter and takes up less room than 2nd device ect

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                PLB means you can skip the secondary GPS (and its costly subscription plan) - you can have a 40,000mA battery backup and that will last a full week with light use. You genuinely do not know. how to read a topo map or compass with alltrails and that's what's so great. "Dude just have 3 points you can triangulate" - that does not work in a lot of situations and it's just a lot more work and you have to have paper maps of the specific area you are in printed beforehand - sometimes I decide to go somewhere different than planned.

                Paper maps get wet and ruined and they are annoying.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would never get a gps device that required a subscription to use uploaded maps and gps, anything else is really just extra, like a satellite text/call features.

                The paper maps can be a pain in the ass, it’s preferable to laminate them ahead of time. There’s also a bit of pride that comes in having them and knowing how to use them. It’s a great security having it too, like who knows, an emp could happen and then you’re really in deep water if you’re way off trail or exploring some area off the grid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you just have to laminate maps for every single different place you hike
                this is CRAZY - your phone works FINE the odds of it breaking are TINY

                >There’s also a bit of pride that comes in having them and knowing how to use them
                that's 100% of it

                >like who knows, an emp could happen and then you’re really in deep water if you’re way off trail or exploring some area off the grid.
                and jesus is real...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is it like a meme that people cant put their pictures right side up on this board?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea how it works. I upload it, preview looks good. Click upload, and it flips the image.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah just stay home. /in/ is the new PrepHole

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thousands of dollars in gear
    >to hike a trail

    Lmao lol just use your legs and walk hahaha. Bring some water and snacks if you’ll be out for a while. You don’t need fucking gear to hike lmao

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People use their phones for GPS? Do you even get signal deep in the forest?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you get a premium subscription to gps apps, like gaia gps, they let you dl the maps for offline use. You don't need cell service for gps anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can dl Google maps for offline use

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Signal
      GPS
      Anon really?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a persistent myth that modern smartphones cannot somehow access gps receiver signals without data reception (they can, turn on airplane mode)

        Can dl Google maps for offline use

        Google Maps offline maps is great for driving innawoods - but less helpful when hiking because it doesn't have topo map layer and Alltrails has its own map layer that's sometimes helpful (depends where you are

        you can download .gpx/track files into google maps but it's just a lot easier to have it already in a searchable system like Alltrails does.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I use Australia topomaps app which is free but mentioned Google as it's universal and yeah GPS definitely works offline most of my out is beyond cell service

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >when ur awake at real aussie hours
            >and yeah GPS definitely works offline most of my out is beyond cell service
            sometimes the signal doesn't lock well if you aren't on airplane mode and the google maps offline maps literally does not load unless you have airplane mode on and nowhere in the app does it say to enable airplane mode to make it work

            its just understanding the mechanics that a cell phone has multiple antennas and if you turn off the data signal one the gps one still works (and works better)

            Also google maps has a "terrain" mode which can be helpful for visualizing elevation but Alltrails pro has a 3d mode which is actually pretty useful for getting a sense of how steep where you will be hiking is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I always switch to airplane mode to conserve battery as ph will keep searching for a signal otherwise

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess my point is that these apps (alltrails,google maps etc) don't make it clear in the app that you kinda HAVE to be on airplane mode for them to work without a signal - and especially if you have like a low intermittent data signal that will really eat your battery and fuck up your location signal if you don't engage airplane mode.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Smartphones have their limits. But there´s devices like the "Garmin GLO 2 GLONASS", that can enhance your phones GPS capabilities.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What battery packs do you bros use? What brand should I invest in? Looking for something to charge my phone in case I get lost like OP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally any chinesium is fine - with some considerations - larger battery size is going to be heavier - don't pay for a brand name that's stupid - I like ones that come with a light that shows the PERCENT battery charge - I find that much more useful than the ones that just have like four blinking lights for 0-25%, 25-50%, etc.

      Make sure it has the charge port type you want - usb-c or otherwise - and you get the right cords for it

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, you bought thousands of dollars in gear (what the hell did you even buy lmao) despite living 4 hours from the nearest trail and probably not having any outdoor experience, decided to explore a place you've never been at at night, and got so tired in 2 hours you were exhausted ( I assume whatever you were planning to do would be more demanding than what you did) so you were also out of shape. You really are too autistic to get out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Way to encourage someone into going out fucktard, bet you're a real popular guy

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek.
    > went bike packing first and so far last time
    > 140k the first day on gravel trails
    > stop at some farm where they allow cambing for a few bucks
    > set up tarp in the most retarded way possible
    > my sleeping bag be walmart +5C, old af too
    > can literally see the full moon through it's fabric
    > frost
    > dance aroung a fire all night
    > frozen my lungs off, started getting a bad cough
    > make a fuckit decision, go bikepack 140k back home next morning
    > suffer from bronchitis for 2 more weeks

    The ride was still extra comfy, just the sleeping part got fucked up. Will do again one day with proper gear.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you not done this trail before? Be pretty dumb to try a new trail when it's dark out.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol I bet you learned a lot. Now go again when it's light out.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just start with something more manageable. Small steps, you giant buffoon.
    You don´t become Dick Proenneke over night.
    Go out again, but do something easier. And be more prepared. Get a good GPS maybe.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP's story just got me spooked because I'm currently in the same spot, might have to get one of these little fellas before heading into the woods.

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