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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Strike
    CAP
    OCA
    CAS
    All kinds of fun stuff.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      SEAD

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Perhaps even...
        SNEED

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait I think I've got it
          >Suppression or Neutralization of Enemy Elements of Defense

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Suppression & Neutralization of Enemy Elements and Defenses

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              stealing and naturalization of enemy equipment and defenses

              for when an s-400 complex mysteriously appears in nellis

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You think you're right but you're wrong fricking ruskie b***h

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Superiority
          Not
          Endangered
          Engaging
          Dedovshchinaniks

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            nice

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          But what about CHUCK?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah that's for the new autonomous drones that attack exposed troops.
            Close Human-Unsupervised Combatant Killer
            When the drones still required operators, they were called Supervised Near-Enemy Explosive Delivery

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        >SEAD
        This. I knew that the Russian ground forces were going to be completely disarmed via destruction of everything but it looks like the G7/USA/EU/NATO is going for the bonus level and removing the entire Russian airforce as well.

        [...]
        The truth is it is enough to erase all Russia fighter, ground attack, helicopter and strategic bombers forces as well as ripping apart Russian air defences. I for one am happy that Russia over.

        >SEAD
        I'm very interested to see how much of a difference these aircraft will actually make. As far as I know the primary issue is that Russian aircraft can fly CAP from within Russia because their missiles outrange what the Ukrainians have. These F-16s aren't going to change that, so they might not be able to use them to do much SEAD.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >These F-16s aren't going to change that
          AIM-120C's completely outrange R-27's, and going to out-range the R-77 in most conditions. My guess is that the primary A2A missile of the russochimps is STILL the R-27.

          See this promo pic from before the war, when they couldn't get R-77's for even a propaganda shot, and had to arm their "Raptor-killer" Su-35 with basically a worse Sparrow.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          SEAD doesnt actually need to destroy enemy batteries to succeed, otherwise it is DEAD

          F-16s flying in the air and denying the enemy airspace also keeps russian AA from firing in the first place, because thjey light themselves up like a christmas tree once they fire

          a relatively small number of aircraft that overmatch the defenders aircraft can control a massive battlespace as the enemy is forced to keep strict radar silence and only fire when absolutely necessary to reduce getting hit
          this allows aircraft to fly without fear of AA, since the batteries are always under threat

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            you have no idea what you are talking about

            the f16s are going to be the ones flying very carefully, since there are huge amounts of s300 and s400 batteries that completely outrange them

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >batteries that completely outrange them
              Mind that range is something that's jotted down on paper for propaganda and export sales.
              The S-400 max range is basically measured with the target at high altitude, heading towards the site, and not taking evasive action.
              The double height masts for radar in the S-300 system put it at 38 meters AGL, which means that max range for a target at 5k ft is 180km with refraction taken into account. Those masts limit mobility because they take an hour to erect and take down. Let's bring the radar back down to 7 meters (guesstimation) and the aircraft to 3,000 feet. Max range for that target is 135 km.
              Obviously fighters have to fly carefully around SAMs, but that was always the reality.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      SEAD

      >SEAD
      This. I knew that the Russian ground forces were going to be completely disarmed via destruction of everything but it looks like the G7/USA/EU/NATO is going for the bonus level and removing the entire Russian airforce as well.

      SEAD

      The truth is it is enough to erase all Russia fighter, ground attack, helicopter and strategic bombers forces as well as ripping apart Russian air defences. I for one am happy that Russia over.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice coping. K will be fun in a year or 2.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it's not. An SU-35 is perfectly capable of going toe to toe with an F-16, even in BVR as long as it has Fox 3s. It has a more powerful radar than the block 15/20 F-16s up for grabs, a longer range, and it carries more missiles. It just means the ukies have a fighting chance in such a situation. SEAD with HARMs is probably the biggest boon for them. If they can reduce the airspace denial the Russians have, it would significantly benefit ukraine in terms of landing cruise misiles on targets and doing strikes with aircraft

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends,
      >supplied with HARMs, MALDs and SDBs
      SNEED the Russian GBAD, then drive them out of the country
      >not supplied with the above
      Dodge S-300s and potshots from MiG-31s without being able to retaliate.

      None of this is possible without

      SEAD

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    probably destroy the whole russian military

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    kill vatnigs and dpr homosexuals

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably nothing - these are old ass planes with shitty non-AESA radars that are already outgunned by MiG-31s and Su-35s

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Checked and true...
      Look at all these bootlicking morons

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Checked and true...
      Look at all these bootlicking morons

      The Mig-31 fleet will fall apart before any F-16s reach Ukraine
      Russia already had issues maintaining their air assets before the war, imagine how much worse the problem is now

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I see you omitted the sukhois lmao

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because the sukhois aren't doing the brunt of russia's air to air work anon, it's Mig-31s firing from inside russia

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        >SEAD
        I'm very interested to see how much of a difference these aircraft will actually make. As far as I know the primary issue is that Russian aircraft can fly CAP from within Russia because their missiles outrange what the Ukrainians have. These F-16s aren't going to change that, so they might not be able to use them to do much SEAD.

        Forcing the Foxhounds to the air as often as possible will eventually cause maintenance issues. Also, if decoys such as towable targets were used, even without the Vipers, you get the Russians to waste R-37s.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Forcing the Foxhounds to the air as often as possible will eventually cause maintenance issues.
          This is a good point, didn't really consider that to be honest.
          >decoys
          We know they have ADM-160 MALDs from that strike a little while ago, those will probably be a huge help for SEAD.

          https://i.imgur.com/eNzswB0.jpg

          >These F-16s aren't going to change that
          AIM-120C's completely outrange R-27's, and going to out-range the R-77 in most conditions. My guess is that the primary A2A missile of the russochimps is STILL the R-27.

          See this promo pic from before the war, when they couldn't get R-77's for even a propaganda shot, and had to arm their "Raptor-killer" Su-35 with basically a worse Sparrow.

          >AIM-120C's completely outrange R-27's, and going to out-range the R-77 in most conditions.
          Do we know what kind of A2A missiles they're getting with the F-16s? Also, like the first anon I replied to said, R-37s have been a pretty substantial threat to Ukrainian air. Not the most accurate/maneuverable, but they still have enough range to be dangerous until you can force the Russians to deplete their stocks.

          SEAD doesnt actually need to destroy enemy batteries to succeed, otherwise it is DEAD

          F-16s flying in the air and denying the enemy airspace also keeps russian AA from firing in the first place, because thjey light themselves up like a christmas tree once they fire

          a relatively small number of aircraft that overmatch the defenders aircraft can control a massive battlespace as the enemy is forced to keep strict radar silence and only fire when absolutely necessary to reduce getting hit
          this allows aircraft to fly without fear of AA, since the batteries are always under threat

          >SEAD doesnt actually need to destroy enemy batteries to succeed, otherwise it is DEAD
          Good point, and Ukraine has been able to achieve this to some degree already with what they have. Still, they haven't been able to do much about long range A2A from within Russia. It seems to me that this is what's really preventing them from having free reign in the air, and I don't know that F-16s will be enough to change that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're getting upgraded before they're sent, which most likely means AESA is included. Rumor has it AIM-120D is on the table too.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lol they are not upgrading the busted ass euro block 20 F16s to block 70

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're already upgraded to block 50/52, and the Dutch are claiming they will be upgraded before they're sent. Your guess is as good as mine as to what that means.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are not sticking Aesa’s on 30 year old F16Cs. SEAD/Nav/targeting/jamming pods, full HARM integration, and sdb1 spam is a nasty combo tho

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any soviet junk that gets within these planes will also get lit up by Patriot or IRIS-T. Nobody is planning to fly to Vladivostok

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        The Mig-31 fleet will fall apart before any F-16s reach Ukraine
        Russia already had issues maintaining their air assets before the war, imagine how much worse the problem is now

        Cool, so you don't really need the F-16s then, huh?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Early block F-16s are nicer than clapped out MiG-29s but they'll be staring down R-37s. They're really only interesting for being able to fire AMRAAMs to at least give themselves a fighting chance.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        R-37s aren't an existential threat. they're meant to shoot down AWACS and tanker aircraft so they aren't all that maneuverable, a fighter should be able to evade them well enough. Still, they are enough of a danger that the Ukrainians will probably be pretty cautious about where and when they use these planes.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a fighter should be able to evade them well enough
          Per RUSI interviews, that's wrong. R-37's are particularly difficult to evade.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Per RUSI interviews
            This is where you link it alongside your claims

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://static.rusi.org/SR-Russian-Air-War-Ukraine-web-final.pdf
              >The VKS has been firing up to six R-37Ms per day during October, and the extremely high speed of the weapon, coupled with very long effective range and a seeker designed for engaging low-altitude targets, makes it particularly difficult to evade.76
              >76: Author interview D with four senior Ukrainian Air Force commanders representing the aviation branch of the service, Ukraine, October 2022

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the extremely high speed of the weapon, coupled with very long effective range and a seeker designed for engaging low-altitude targets
                Meaning it's tough to see it coming until it's too late(using Soviet/Russian RWR that's not terribly surprising), and staying low doesn't really confuse it, not that it's highly maneuverable. I agree though, it's kinda the one threat to air assets that Ukraine doesn't really have a good counter for.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >six R-37Ms per day
                How many of those do they have? We're into the four digits by now

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://static.rusi.org/SR-Russian-Air-War-Ukraine-web-final.pdf
            >The VKS has been firing up to six R-37Ms per day during October, and the extremely high speed of the weapon, coupled with very long effective range and a seeker designed for engaging low-altitude targets, makes it particularly difficult to evade.76
            >76: Author interview D with four senior Ukrainian Air Force commanders representing the aviation branch of the service, Ukraine, October 2022

            Interesting. The UAF has lost 5 fighters since October that were either to missiles or unconfirmed reasons (GBAD and shrapnel from UAVs being other causes). Now if they are firing 6 of these a day (or even half of that) then clearly the "menacing" from your report is incredibly operative as they aren't getting many connections. It would seem that it is difficult but still possible to avoid as that seems the only logical explantion. Now, we could say that the Ukrainian pilots or gods or that the Russian equipment is ogshit but I think its more likely that its just munitions being pressed into a role they were not designed for. Even still, it seems clear its affecting the UAF's ability to carry out strike missions.
            >The long range of the R-37M, in conjunction with the very high performance and
            high operating altitude of the Mig-31BM also allows it significant freedom to menace Ukrainian
            aircraft near the frontlines from outside the range of Ukrainian defences.
            >menace

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              stfu moron. a burn-and-coast (which is most of them) missile gets exponentially harder to dodge the closer you get. sure, you can always go defensive before getting too close to the enemy kill zone but that still means you fail your mission.

              open a fricking book.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you pretending we aren't in agreement? Are you that hard up for someone to argue with?
                >Even still, it seems clear its affecting the UAF's ability to carry out strike missions.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real game changer is the meteor missile that has the range to stop russia from using glide bombs

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is Ukriane getting them? (or equivalent US missiles)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one is giving them those

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO, you wanna bet? The bongs are going to give 'em those, jsut liek they gave 'em everything else you shills said nobody would give 'em..

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          No. No one has given them anything resembling their latest and greatest best shit. The US wont even put DU armor in the tanks they are sending.

          Probably the most advanced tech they have been sent so far are storm shadows or brimstones, and thats because russia already has their own equivalents

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, we sent PAC-3 CRI from the pictures of wreckage we've seen. DU armored tanks require an act of congress to export.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Russia has no equivalent of either moron

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >brimstones
            >Russian equivalent

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No one is giving them those
        I bet you said the same for Storm Shadow lmao

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No one is giving them those

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >SU-57
    >>>/x/

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      4+ combat kills known,
      >F-22: 0

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        May I see them?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        idk looks pretty confirmed to me, Black person

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't even know why you are entertaining his moronic logic

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing since Armata flies faster and further and carriers thiccer ordnance. The toe is on the other foot.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason they are getting F16's is to use as platform for cruise missiles

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly this. They will not give Ukraine any air superiority, they are fricking old. People joke about the Russians using soviet era stuff, this is the western equivalent of that. They will still significantly improve the ability to do long range strikes (which can also disrupt Russian attacks from the black sea), and it'll be easier to get replacement parts than for the current soviet shit they have now.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't going to be doing much SEAD, they are mainly there to be used as part of Ukraine's AD network, part of a replacement for the S-300s that are running low on missiles, since NATO does not produce similar SAMs in the same quantity.
    A lot of what they will be doing is just shooting down cruise missiles/strategic drones and lobbing SDB/JDAM from low altitudes.

    From the looks of things these will likely be the F-16 MLU, so not the best radar in the world, technically not even PESA.
    They will still be a lot more threatening to Russian CAP and potential strike packages than MiG-29s though.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >day 334: Mexico reports receipt of downgraded J-15s, which should delete American air defenses along the border

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >so not the best radar in the world, technically not even PESA.
      >I know nothing but am going to pretend to be an expert and state my opinion with unearned authority
      Fricking idiot

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Excellent source you have there
    Mind sending me another one? Eurasian Times perhaps?

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Troll hundreds of thousands of Russians..

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No they're fricking NOT. They aren't even confirmed.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Didn’t you watch top gun? Su 57 can’t even beat a decrepit f14.. like cope and seethe ruskie

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ability to use western ALCM and SEAD and BVRAAM

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    According to this woman, not that much

    https://twitter.com/BrynnTannehill/status/1660261077026762753

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women aren't allowed to be fighter pilots lmao that whole thing is fake vatnik FUD

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Women aren't allowed to be fighter pilots

        In whose air force?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally who?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        She is former naval aviator. I think she is credible

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >listening to women
      Anon….

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    lots.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope they just strafe the trenches with the Vulcan. Then make another pass to drop leaflets to the survivors, but it's just dicks drawn on paper

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. This is not an escalation. There is nothing to worry about.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Actual Su-57 kills confirmed in these articles: 0

    Stop lying, vatBlack person.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is their a western answer to the R-37 and R-37M? Something that would actually be shared with Ukraine that is (so no stealth obviously).

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Only future equivalent is AIM-260 but Ukraine wouldn’t be getting that after it comes out in 2025.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Only future equivalent is AIM-260 but Ukraine wouldn’t be getting that after it comes out in 2025.

      The Navy is dicking around with Air-launched SM-6, probably as a stopgap to the PL-15 situation. The drawback is pretty visible, SM-6 is a huge 1800 pound missile (50% heavier than R-37M) that turns any plane carrying it into a fat pig and you can carry at most 2 of them. However integration would be pretty easy since SM-6 uses a lot of AIM-120C parts, so theoretically any plane that can shoot and datalink 120C can do so with SM-6. With the advantage of height and possibly a supersonic launch, I would expect AL SM-6 go go well over 300km.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        SM-6 is not for planes. It is for missiles

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          SM-6 is for both, SM-3 is only for missiles.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/kAzx7tv.jpg

      [...]

      The Navy is dicking around with Air-launched SM-6, probably as a stopgap to the PL-15 situation. The drawback is pretty visible, SM-6 is a huge 1800 pound missile (50% heavier than R-37M) that turns any plane carrying it into a fat pig and you can carry at most 2 of them. However integration would be pretty easy since SM-6 uses a lot of AIM-120C parts, so theoretically any plane that can shoot and datalink 120C can do so with SM-6. With the advantage of height and possibly a supersonic launch, I would expect AL SM-6 go go well over 300km.

      that would be the aim-54 phoenix but those arent around anymore kek

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Only future equivalent is AIM-260 but Ukraine wouldn’t be getting that after it comes out in 2025.

      https://i.imgur.com/kAzx7tv.jpg

      [...]

      The Navy is dicking around with Air-launched SM-6, probably as a stopgap to the PL-15 situation. The drawback is pretty visible, SM-6 is a huge 1800 pound missile (50% heavier than R-37M) that turns any plane carrying it into a fat pig and you can carry at most 2 of them. However integration would be pretty easy since SM-6 uses a lot of AIM-120C parts, so theoretically any plane that can shoot and datalink 120C can do so with SM-6. With the advantage of height and possibly a supersonic launch, I would expect AL SM-6 go go well over 300km.

      Can't a rocket booster be strapped to an AMRAAM?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but that's probably more work than strapping an SM-6 to a hornet as a test. the AIM-260 is supposed to be operational really soon anyway

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >the SU-57
    At least you correctly stated there's a singular one

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine will never get <insert western weapons system here>!
    >If Ukraine gets <weapons system>, it will change nothing!
    >>>YOU ARE HERE<<<
    >Russia destroyed all of Ukraine's new <weapon system>! NATO cope!
    ><weapon system> isn't that effective actually!

    This has happened like a hundred times now and I'm starting to get bored with it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      List 5 examples

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No u

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >HIMARS
        >FGM-148/NLAW
        >HARMs/Storm Shadow/MALD
        >M777
        >Gepard

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Forgot to include Patriot and NASAMS with Gepard

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Patriot
          >Storm Shadow
          >Bradleys
          >Abrams
          >HARM

          HIMARs
          HARMs
          Western AA
          Western Tanks
          Western IFVs
          Western Cruise Missiles

          literally no one said they would never receive those things

          its only been the jets that have been the major discussion, from near day 1

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >literally no one said they would never receive those things
            You double Black person there was piles of asshurt over Germany and Swedish frick-frick games regarding just the Gepard, let alone any MBTs. There was so much
            >"well supply lines and maintenance pipelines..."
            regarding Bradleys for *months*. No one has forgotten all the hemming a hawing over Abrams' being too heavy for Ukrainian infrastructure.
            Storm Shadows were for a good long time under the same long-range munitions "taboo" the West larped under and which the US still larps under w/r/t/ ATCAMS.
            Who the frick are you trying to lie to here?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              you are lying and full of shit

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh so you're a moronic tourist.
                >https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/swiss-veto-german-request-re-export-tank-ammunition-ukraine-2022-04-26/
                That's just for the Gepard and the Swiss (I said Swedish on frick up) frickery. You're on a board full of frickers that have better memories than (You), dumbfrick.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are liar

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Vranyo only works if we play along, moron.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Storm Shadow
            https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55894676/#55897448
            https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55894676/#q55897518
            >HIMARS
            https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/53754715/#53755212
            https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/53644432/#q53644675
            >Patriot
            https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/52908714/#q52909109
            Someone else can dig up the rest, but you're full of shit.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lying again doesn’t stop us from seeing through those same lies

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Patriot
        >Storm Shadow
        >Bradleys
        >Abrams
        >HARM

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        HIMARs
        HARMs
        Western AA
        Western Tanks
        Western IFVs
        Western Cruise Missiles

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    JDAM truck which is still useful on its own and still better than nothing. Anyone saying SEAD is dreaming and thinks it's a magic ability they can learn in a few months of training among NATO allies. Maybe in a few years if the war is still ongoing because it becomes Syria-tier and the west is still willing to support them

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Ziggers can't stop thinking about anything but wieners.
    The more likely scenario is a SU-57 getting slapped from across the border because they are nothing but hyped-up trash that only vatniks believe is worth the money that got laundered in its development.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you'll notice that they can only imagine social exchanges in the context of prison rape, that is how mind broken they are

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Soviets were receiving lend-lease from ‘41 to ‘45.

    The Russians can have Heraclea.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >losing one (1) town of 50,000 after 9 months
    Just another 2 weeks and puccia might move the line forward another 6 inches!

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    someone post the webm
    have you tried not talking about wiener?

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    192

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >russia destroying itself demographically
    >dooming itself to become a resource colony of soulless Chinese bug people in the long run
    >betrayed European roots to be a Chinese bug people vassal
    >Russian culture will cease to exist outside wherever immigrants set up shop like Alaska
    >this is what winning looks like
    I'm not even Russian but it's depressing to see a country self destruct like this

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia barely was a real country. It's a prison

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    >Ziggers can't stop thinking about anything but wieners.
    The more likely scenario is a SU-57 getting slapped from across the border because they are nothing but hyped-up trash that only vatniks believe is worth the money that got laundered in its development.

    https://i.imgur.com/txdzDOg.gif

    [...]
    someone post the webm
    have you tried not talking about wiener?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      luv me ukraine
      luv me people's servant (ave all seasons on pirated dvd)
      luv me bandera
      ate putin
      ate russians (not racist just not like em)
      ate suckin todgers an otha buggery
      simple as

      t. Big Blyazza from Dneperstershire

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >BIG RED wiener
    >GET PRISON FRICKED
    You can't help yourself can you?

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >The mighty red rocket wiener of the ass will be inside the ass of the ukrane boy ahahaha

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    >Soledar and Bakhmut are the only two major gains Russia has made in the last six to eight months.
    You're gloating over the second army of the world taking two cities for 100k casualties while according to Murz and Rybar the Ukrainians never employed any of their strategic reserve personnel and no new equipment was used in the defense. Your shitting up the board with spam is unironically cope.
    Now call me a glowie troony zogbot and say your favorite cope line about Ukraine still being occupied while Russia isn't lmao

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Are they going to surrender now? What's next after Bakhmut?

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What can you do with dozens of F16s?

    its not about the planes, its about the munitions they can fire

    NATO plane means NATO missiles, long range air-surface and air-air missiles, russian planes being shot down well inside russia territory, if Ukraine and NATO says "frick it, lets shoot down the few russian planes that can deliver long range missiles"

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Spriter
    I could piss in your mouth and call it rain, homosexual.

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    then post actual proofs not schizo ramblings, you absolute moron.

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You disregard Murz and Rybar but show me a screenshot of some literal who twitter rando with a Ukraine flag in his name?
    Also look at picrel and tell me how exactly it'll be easy for the force that spent itself in and around Bakhmut and which is due for operational pause is going to assault westwards with great ease, against a defender which, again, according to even Russian sources, hasn't even dipped into their reserve personnel nor any of their new NATO equipment for the defense of the city? You're on /k/, you know things about military strategy, you can do that, right?

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >that image
    vatniks really are reaching into the bottom depths of cope

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >PRISON FRICK
    >BIG RED wiener
    yep, genuine russian poster confirmed

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ass is in the ass

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    do you talk about anything other than gay anal sex and trannies?

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Honestly impressed twitter botnets still just use random numbers after thier name.
    Also no sure how people havent picked how easy it is to spot.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    >YOU'RE A israelite
    >NO YOU'RE A israelite
    >NUH UH YOU'RE A israelite
    ffs

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine fricking up an invasion so bad the country you were supposed to be 440 days ago is getting fighter jet squadrons as a birthday present.

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kill Russkies, the reason F-16 was conceived and born

    No wonder Prigorzhin wants to get the frick out of town

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    LMAO at the vatBlack folk shitting their pants ITT

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Noticed that as well. You'd think they'd be elated after taking the hyperdimentional fortress of Bakhmut in just 10 months, but there's massive zigger sneeding in this thread somehow.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Answer this anon ->

    https://i.imgur.com/A7Sq0nq.jpg

    [...]
    You disregard Murz and Rybar but show me a screenshot of some literal who twitter rando with a Ukraine flag in his name?
    Also look at picrel and tell me how exactly it'll be easy for the force that spent itself in and around Bakhmut and which is due for operational pause is going to assault westwards with great ease, against a defender which, again, according to even Russian sources, hasn't even dipped into their reserve personnel nor any of their new NATO equipment for the defense of the city? You're on /k/, you know things about military strategy, you can do that, right?

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he thinks wagner is the only force russia dedicated to take bakhmut even though priggy has b***hed about how shit the russians they fight with in bakhmut and that guerd their flanks are fricking worthless
    >wagner was decimated enough to require penal battalions and are rumored to be running away to sudan
    i dont even need to say anymore because if you are so fricking stupid you think that wagner accounts for all casualties in bakhmut you are not worth the effort

    cope and seethe homosexual. soon the western mbts and jets are gonna be shitting allll over the russoids. i hope they die slow.

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >they can't even start a counteroffensive, that's over
    Man I remember where you called Kherson a twitter offensive. How did that work out?

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blow up the bridge connecting Crimea to Russia.

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >vatnigs coping and going full argument ad moronum
    Who knew the little ole F-16 could cause such astronomical levels of ass pain. Maybe even worse than institutional conscript rape!?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they are winning!!11!!111
      Lmao then why do they need the jets so bad?? Why is that little b***h always begging for shit?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        So they can win harder. A better question is why are Russians crying about all these weapons if they don't do anything?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You guys are really scared of a jet from the 80’s huh… are MiGs really that bad??

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably an amazing amount of stuff. They can use standoff munitions and safely fly over Ukrainian controlled territory, supported by all radars and AWACS, and protected by Ukrainian AA.

    Russians will probably not even get a fix long enough in order to shoot down many.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      pure copium

      an f16 is not a stealth plane, its just as much of a target as a shitty old mig is

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm thinking this is trolling, but it's russians we're talking about and they can really be this fricking stupid

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >a PMC that has 100k men to lose, tanks, enough artillery to level a city and air force
    lol, lmao

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I'm just stoking the fire for the death of westcucks cowards like you :3 But you're finished with your AIDS, cuckolditor

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    F16 is ancient. What can it do against modern Russian planes and AA?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      go ask russia
      they are the ones calling it a red line.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It can carry bombs and good missiles and a 45 year old plane is enough to deal with Russia (and anyone else in the world for that matter).

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I'm just stoking the fire for the death of westcucks cowards like you
    it's ukranians and russians that are dying
    >your AIDS
    russia has the highest per capita of aids in europe and north america.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    russia couldn't even achieve air surpremacy against Ukraine with their Mig-29 and Su-27. A bunch of F-16 will be enough to create a no fly zone to the Urals.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      there has been little to no air combat since the first few weeks. we are in the age of aid defense, get with the program

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >But you're finished with your AIDS, cuckolditor
    Big words from the highest aids rates in europe

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Proof
    US said so. The same people who said there was going to be a war 6 months before it started and we're right about everything that happened since then.
    >Yeah, that's still PMC
    Then it's a useless qualifier as there is no difference from an army.

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Win like in Kyiv, Kherson (forever Russian btw), Kharkiv, and a dozen other small towns roughly the size of Backmut :^)

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >win like in Bakhmut?
    During the time it took for Russia to take Bakhmut (47 square miles) Russia lost 20k square miles and a bunch of cities that were magnitudes larger than Bakhmut. So yes, like in Bakhmut.

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Sometimes
    They were right about everything they said about this war since before it started.

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Do you know the meaning of PMC
    Yeah, and Wagner doesn't qualify by any metric. Just because you call part of your army a PMC doesn't make it so.

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >no one is interested in the opinion of these shitskin Black folk
    He wrote in a language he learned in order to understand us lmao

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    dozen is a squadron in ukrainian military doctrine, i remember there was a video explaining why it's 12 but i can't find it

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    target practice

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol U didn't think a few old planes would scare the vatnicks so much.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      These few old planes will make Russian military defeat inevitable. Of course they are scared.

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >a single victory
    >almost a year ago
    20k square miles. During the time they were taking Bakhmut, which is 47 square miles. Russia traded 20k for 47. It's almost impossible to win harder than Ukraine does right now.

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >GET PRISON FRICKED
    You would love to, wouldn't you?

  71. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >They're just guessing.
    Lol what? They guessed about Russia invading Ukraine in February? They were guessing for 6 months? They guessed about Russian northern flank collapsing a week before it happened? And literally everything else they said about this war? Again, they haven't been wrong once about anything in this whole war.

  72. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >best soldiers
    their best soldiers have western gear, which was not present at bakhmut

  73. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It could. You know exactly like Russians did during Napoleonic wars and during WW2.

  74. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >The area of the territory does not matter
    >And more than 20% of Ukraine is still controlled by Russia
    lol, lmao

  75. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is that what you're being told? Do you think it makes sense that attacking into enemy positions incurs more losses to them than the attacker?

  76. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >the Russians just abandoned and ran away
    They abandoned hundreds of tanks and piece of artillery in Kharkiv. Without battle.

  77. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >vatBlack person can’t count past 1
    OOF
    >bonus points for a single victory over 9 months (2nd army of the world btw)

  78. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well the predictions were right: announcing that the very strategic and significant town of Bakhmut was taken really bolstered the vatniks morale. Just look at them all fired up in this thread, they started throwing around the "globohomo" and "jews" again like it's february 2022. Nature really is healing.

  79. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    belgium has two wings of f-16 that haven't had the last block of upgrades
    and they are getting f-35 so they won't need those two wings for much longer

  80. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So I’m betting on three squadrons of F-16s, that fair? Or do we think Ukie AF is gonna get 4 squadrons? 36 modern fighters is a pretty huge boost in capes for them, but with 4-5 squadrons they can actually establish air superiority

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      4 squadrons
      4 X 18

      Unlimited parts
      Unlimited replacements
      Unlimited ammo

      Its like the christmas in-game special purchase

  81. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What can you do with dozens of F16s?
    they can carry B-61 nukes

  82. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is Ukraine going to deal with Mig-31s launching R-37s? Is there any way to counter this? It seems to me like they are extremely dangerous if the F-16s get caught in the no escape zone.
    >inb4 zigger

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If this was a problem they didn't know a solution to Ukraine wouldn't get f16s in the first place. I will not claim to know how they will deal with it but I'm more than sure that nobody would give Ukraine those planes, if they were going to turn into R37 food.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The defense against this is simply don't be in the NEZ, which is simple to do since a lot of the fighting happens well within Ukraine's borders. The Russians don't dare to fly their precious Mig-31's deep into Ukrainian territory due to Ukrainian IADS. From long range the R-37M has very poor pk against agile fighters.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      R-37s are expensive, they will deal with them by dodging them until Russia runs low and is forced to engage at closer ranges with R-77.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The R-37 is designed for big targets or other fighters at high altitude. In dense air it won't track a defensive fighter.
      Just because it's a death ray in DCS doesn't mean it is IRL

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How is Ukraine going to deal with Mig-31s launching R-37s? Is there any way to counter this? It seems to me like they are extremely dangerous if the F-16s get caught in the no escape zone.
      The biggest factor will be that the F-16 will probably have substantially better early warning systems than Ukraine's older Mig-29s. The more warning time a fighter has, the more the R-37's poor maneuverability handicaps its kill probability.

      If you want realistic chances of killing Mig-31's? You're probably talking about how long it'll take western defense industry types to get the F-16 compatible with Meteors.

  83. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >And when they said shit, it doesn't count
    What are you even talking about? When was the US ever verifiably wrong about anything in this conflict?

  84. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/@Karaya1
    >my boy Karaya is getting a F-16
    Kino is on it's way guys

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Karaya
      Lol, Karaya-1 was Erich Hartmann's callsign.

      These homies just can't help themselves, can they?

  85. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember those HARM missiles they got?
    They weren't operating them to their full potential because they had to improvise a way to get them working on their MiG-29's.
    and let's not forget every other nato Air mounted missile that can now be donated with ease.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      they have billions of KG of old Aim-120Bs and Cs, SDB-1s, dumb bombs rusting in Germany somewhere need to be disposed, Harpoons converted to ground attack called SLAM-ER AGM-84H, all about to go bad, but now gloriously released in the crisp spring air over eastern Ukraine before plunging into rotting carcass of the Russian military.

      the F-16 can fire anything, and during the cold war, billions of kg of anything were built and stored and that's the frick why Prigozhin is getting the hell out of doge. bakhmut will be a parking lot if sizeable units are caught within by F-16s

      Biden was right to release them now the old c**t because it would have scared the Russians off earlier and not killed so many

  86. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I play DCS World, which strives to be 100% real-world accurate, so I can attest:

    Total VVS death.

  87. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >haven't read the thread but I;m sure some idiot brought it up
    The Irbis-E is a piece of crap and the radar in the MLUed F-16s is actually superior in most ways despite it not being PESA/AESA.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Poos bought a lot of Irbis-E, the dumbfricks as usual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The jeets need to start thinking hard about what a war with the Chinese would look like and what sort of equipment they'd need to fight it. Using military procurement simply as an avenue for foreign diplomacy without other consideration is gonna lead them to ruin.

  88. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blow up vatBlack folk

  89. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Strike some targets in Russia.
    Pic unrelated.

  90. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe no one has said it yet so I'll do it. The correct answer, AHEM - Bomb Donetsk children.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ooooo, so edgy, so cool.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd call you a homosexual but nice GET

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      WRONG! The correct answer is: "Bomb Luhansk babushkas"

  91. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The English will price pay for meddling with nations aircrafts. I suspect

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mate, we’re paying the price for being born on this hell island. Just a little gift 🙂

  92. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What can you do with dozens of F16s?
    Recapture Belgorod in the name of the Kievan Rus and Emperor Zelenskyy.

  93. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can splash dozens of times, courtesy of one SU-57

  94. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Early block F-16s are nicer than clapped out MiG-29s but they'll be staring down R-37s
    Confirmed dumbass

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ur stoopid!
      Confirmed /k/oping.

  95. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least it’ll help keep the air contested like now. Ukraine started with such a tiny and terrible air force compared to Russia that they could probably all get shot down eventually.
    That would probably have made it a bit easier for Russia to attack on the ground.

  96. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    And you are a moronic ESL turd worlder.

  97. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    SPAMRAAM.

  98. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you use an air to air missile to destroy another air to air missile? Could you protect one of these older aircraft by giving it really modern missiles?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you use an air to air missile to destroy another air to air missile?
      In theory, yes. We have had AA munition collisons recorded in that past. Functionally though it isn't nearly reliable enough. One of the major issues to that is that up until the recent introduction of offbore release you'd have to be flying directly at it which is probably one of the worst defensive postures.

  99. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which countries have come out and said they will give Ukraine F-16s? None as far as I know

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Belgium and the Netherlands are moving onto the F-35 so have surplus F-16s

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        And Denmark

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Dutch had like 200 f16s and have pawned most of them off but I think they still have a few and are fully going in on the f35 so theyll probably give them 40 or 50 f16s.

  100. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming several means like 4-ish and ukrainians could keep 1/3rd of the fleet in the air at all times...
    48x6x1/3 is 96 AMRAAMs or almost as many HARMs ready to beat the shit out of soviet junk at any given moment

  101. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a military engineer who worked on cold war stuff. All you work barely got used for what I was meant to, you where affraid it was going to go to waste.
    Then, in retirement, you switch your TV on some day, and you can see dozen of vids of your little guys, crafted with love, being used in a war against Russia. Must bring a tear to the eyes.

  102. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another Ukraine shill cope thread to deflect losing the most vital city of the war. 99% sure this entire thread is Biden bots trying to accelerate the west neutering itself selling advanced NATO hardware to China by way of Ukraine. Funny US is about to bankrupt. Turns out selling McDonald’s to yourself isn’t an actual economy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >losing the most vital city of the war
      Kiev?

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