Domestic Volksstrum SMGs but in UKR

So during the 1990s Croatia made a bunch of cheap open bolt SMGs to outfit their ad hoc military. Most of them look pretty decent, to the point where I wouldn't feel too under-gunned being issued one since they are certainly a few notches above a STEN or barebones MAC-10. The Armenians and Chechens made similar things as well.

Ukraine is currently in a similar situation where they have a shortage of equipment to issue to their volunteer military and even moreso to territorial defense forces. I know they have some domestic arms industry making assault rifles but is anyone over there cranking out STENs, UZIs and MAC-10 clones like the Croats did? They wouldn't be ideal front line weapons, but they would still be pretty handy as PDWs for vehicle/artillery crews and better weapons for TD volunteers than the civilian bolt action hunting rifles and hunting shotguns that some of them are lugging around.
Is there some current day equivalent of these cheap garage made open bolt SMGs that we haven't seen or heard of yet? Or at least something I haven't heard of?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine is currently in a similar situation where they have a shortage of equipment to issue to their volunteer military and even moreso to territorial defense forces
    I haven't heard anything about Ukraine not having enough guns to supply its troops. It's mostly just about not having enough heavy equipment and maybe stuff like personal radios.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ah so it's really more a shortage of things like MANPADS, guided ATGMs, artillery and vehicles?
      I heard there's a shortage of everything, but maybe that was earlier in the war before every other country with surplus old stock AKs and battle rifles from the cold war sent them by the boatload.
      Or maybe there's still a shortage because that same stuff got scalped off because lol corruption. There's a lot of contradictory information which can vary in truthfulness depending who, where and at what time it did or didn't allegedly happen.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Volksstrum

    Found the vatmoron OP. Also, classic projecting the vatniks' breaking out the Nuggets upon the Ukrainians.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >everything is le vatnik
      kys

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if my retarded ass could just learn to read

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I, too, am subscribed to Forgotten Weapons

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The sokacz looks like a MP40.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >is anyone over there cranking out STENs, UZIs and MAC-10 clones like the Croats did
    No, they're getting the international garden gnome to send them their pick of the Western world's military inventory for free.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If germany would be wise they could send masses of G3s and MG3s to the ukraine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >give a bunch of stuff away for free
        >wise
        Fuck off Schlomo.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you built those weapons to kill russians and have no other use for them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Correction, Bolsheviks, and that includes both Ukies and garden gnomes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >send masses of G3s and MG3s
        They don't have G3s just sitting around anymore. Their government sold all that shit off to some gay third world country like Peru or whichever little gay dictator that wanted to paypig for wunderwaffe. German soldiers were doing traning exercises with broomsticks a few years ago, their society has been conditioned to loathe it's warriors.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Ukraine just buy out all of PSA's production?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lol just buy a parts kit from PSA and get some 80% lowers, thats a bunvh of 500 dollar guns easy.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ERO Mini

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Situations in Croatia and Ukraine were much mofe different. First off, unlike Ukraine, Croatia started with maybe 1-2k guns, as JNA plundered the country of arms in preparation for the invasion. Secondly, Croatia didn't have popular international support until '92-'93 and even then they still had to deal with arms embargoes that only benefited Serbs who had more weapons than bodies. They made domestic submachine guns just to have as many guns as possible as quickly as possible, and it showed. These guns were for the most part trash, exceptions being EM-992 (a Sako M691 copy made with tooling based Sako gave), RT-20 (an original man portable cannon that fired 20mm Hispano and popped serb APCs from several clicks) and ERO (a pretty good UZI copy, used to this day). The only usable guns were either counter-plundered from JNA during the Battles for the Barracks or bought through the black market. In fact, black market presence was so strong that Croatia was able to buy its entire airforce through it, which was ~40 MiG-21 bis and ~12 Mi-24 D/V.

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