Does this happen in real life?

Does this happen in real life?
One man infiltrating deep behind enemy lines without raising alarms, doing his work and leaving before anyone knows what even hit them. For whatever purpose. And I mean specifically Sam Fisher type of ops, not seals going in, dropping everyone and disappearing in the night.
Are there any stories or real people that are similar to splinter cell?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't worry about it

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The finnish pervitin dude I guess?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, I've seen the memes but never red anything more about him.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes, I've seen the memes but never red anything more about him.
        https://www.reddit.com/r/warstories/comments/dfhwjm/translation_of_the_story_of_aimo_koivunen_a/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. He was in a ski patrol behind enemy lines with other men and lost his group after taking too much.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah sure there's lots of [Redacted]

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sam if he doesn't get spotted, Snake if it escalates to a gunfight.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >One man
    No. Usually it's in teams.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Punished snake. I only played MGSV and I didn't like it.
    First because the story was shit.
    Second because the story was shit.
    Third because the story was shit.
    Fourth because the engine and maps were shit.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No,/thread

    But i am glad a thread about THE ukraine died for this /v/eddit shitpost.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't /thread your own post, comrade mobikovitch

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am related to someone that did this kind of thing in the 80s/early 90s, so yeah.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't post that and not include a story you fucking knuckledragging piece of gorillashit.

      https://i.imgur.com/IPvKBdt.jpg

      Does this happen in real life?
      One man infiltrating deep behind enemy lines without raising alarms, doing his work and leaving before anyone knows what even hit them. For whatever purpose. And I mean specifically Sam Fisher type of ops, not seals going in, dropping everyone and disappearing in the night.
      Are there any stories or real people that are similar to splinter cell?

      Yes, spies in the 80's if their cover only brings them that far. Nowadays you can just pay or blackmail anyone to do anything.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        story time gay

        I legit can't give a lot of details, but he did operate in Libya, Saudi Arabia, Panama, and Columbia.
        One of the most memorable things he said was that in the rare instances he actually had to kill someone, in order to remain undetected in a hot/humid environment he often had to bury at least the guts so the smell wouldn't be as bad. He only did that if he had to stay in the area for more than a week, though. He also had a blanket that camouflaged him as sand and little weeds. He would lie in the sand and take pictures for days and days. Eventually he would leave and a mysterious explosion would happen at a nearby chemical weapons facility. He didn't make it sound very glamorous, and strangely enough he's one of the nicest guys I've ever known. He was the most supportive of any of my family when I was enlisting in the Marines in the mid '00s.
        I know he's been shot a few times, not sure how many. He's got grenade shrapnel still in him in a few spots and a totally artificial knee joint that is what retired him.
        >be me
        >maybe 10 years old
        >at his house for Thanksgiving
        >he's got me chopping wood in the backyard to help with a bonfire we're gonna have
        >I'm struggling with a particularly big log
        >he comes over to help
        >swings once
        >right knee totally folds in half, boot is touching his waistband
        >"aw, man. My knee broke again."
        >he's in zero pain, I'm still freaking out
        >instead of going to the hospital to get a surgery to replace the joint he just had me go get a wheelchair and we still had our bonfire and we took him to the ER in the morning
        I should call him soon. It's been a couple of years.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good, you do that. He sounds legit like a chad, not just because of the knee and the missions.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's wild. Did he ever say anything about sentry removal/stealth killing? It's an interesting topic that there's basically no information on.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Actually, yes. He only talked to me about that stuff after I got out of the Marines. I saw him again at his brother's funeral and memorial party. We were both a bit drunk and we were alone and talking at a table outside, trading stories. He told me that when he knifed someone's throat he would avoid their windpipe because they could scream through it before they bled out. Main arteries in the neck only. There was a bounty put on him in Panama back in the day, supposedly by one of Manuel Noriega's men or someone like that.
            I swear he's a total sweetheart, the guy is like a deceptively strong looking Mr. Rodgers. Talks to you in the same way, too. Always supportive and kind, always encouraging, never makes you feel like he's better than anybody around him.
            He took me deer hunting the one and only time I've ever done it when I was 10 or 11 and when I didn't want to pull the trigger he didn't get angry or put me down. He did take the shot, though. He consoled me when I cried because I felt like I'd let him down, but he said that having empathy for another living creature was nothing to be ashamed of.
            I sometimes wished he had been my dad, he was a lot better at that kind of stuff than my own father was.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Interesting. His personality and the thing about stealth kills mostly matches up with Green Berets I knew when I was in the Army and one Vietnam vet I knew who I'm confident didn't bullshit at all.

              The Vietnam guy said to stab the direct side of the neck with the blade forward and cut to the windpipe. Although he made it sound like cutting the windpipe was unnecessary rather than actually being beneficial.

              One of the Green Berets I met on active duty told me the way they killed people stealthy was to stab them in the taint from behind which would rupture the diaphragm making it impossible for them to make noise and that they'd bleed out quickly. He might have been yanking my chain, but I lean more towards he was being serious.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He might have been yanking my chain

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >says guy who wasn't there

                By "taint" you mean "kidneys" right?
                That is totally viable way to sentry kill.

                nope, straight up between the cheeks and nuts. Said it had to be 6" minimum.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also if I'm not mistaken there was a Finnish solider in the Winter war who used this method, although for him in required a longer blade due to the heavy winter clothing the Soviets were wearing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ew what a savage

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My guy, google where the diaphragm is, it sure as fuck ain't 6 inches from your ass hole.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                OR IS IT?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                By "taint" you mean "kidneys" right?
                That is totally viable way to sentry kill.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >rupture the diaphram
                huh. so when your muscles flexed your chest to cause your lungs to inflate, the lack of a sealed chamber inside your chest cavity would prevent them from doing anything?
                am I understanding this right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >stab the direct side of the neck with the blade forward and cut to the windpipe
                That jibes with what this old bulldog said.

                You would need a very long knife to reach the diaphragm from the taint, and I suspect that there would be enough important things to cut through, but not important enough to stop anyone being able to scream, on the way between the taint and the diaphragm, that by the time you reached the diaphragm, which is after all between the stomach and lungs, that there would be quite a lot of screaming indeed.

                The only technique I've seen to attack the diaphragm specifically was an attack to a seated enemy from behind, stabbing down behind the sternum and wiggling the blade from side to side to separate the diaphragm from the ribs and collapse the lungs.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Call him. He is a man that all men should have in their life

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you should definitely call him again he sounds like a treasure of a man, godspeed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes of course, the perfect man is a psychopath that invades foreign countries to kill and sabotage so his home country can earn some money

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I knew an "elder" like that in my teenage years. Taught me to make a good knife out of old beds parts.
          Guy had done it all.
          Colonial-airtborne in Indochina, 11th shock regiment in Algeria, SDECE until retirement.
          Guy was in his 70's smoke 3 packs and ran 5 kilometers a day.
          One of the kindest and funniest old man I met. He didn't talk about the wars since he was a indochina-born french and his familly had lost what they had there but if you got him drunk enough he would tell war stories. about the 11 second jump right on top of defenders on a dam during the suez crisis, etc... I misremember a lot of them sadly. Guy was worth a book.
          When I go visiting my great-parents grave I take care of his too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Go call him now anon.
          Not in a few minutes, not later, now. And offer to bring some beer. He wants to hear from you

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He killed someone and buried him if he had to stay for a week or more? And nobody missed that guy at all?
          He got shot conducting these solo ops? That would mean he would have to evade the engaging enemy, survive and make it out somehow while injured.

          Inventing such a complicated story for (you)s is unlikely but I'll never underestimate the local autists.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never said he was always alone. You just assumed that. I have no reason to farm for bullshit responses on fucking PrepHole of all places. You either believe that I told the truth as best as I know it or you don't, I really don't care.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, they're called Singleton Operations, and pretty much only one Unit is specifically trained and qualified to do it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't as 'James Bond' as you think they are.
      Greville Wynne is a good example of a singleton agent. Just a guy recruited to pass messages between turncoats and allies.
      There are also Singleton agents who are inducted from childhood. They are implanted into the opfor command structure with the intent to gather intelligence on the opfor. They also do some light sabotage, mostly pulling rank to fuck up orders and blame it on someone else.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah bro, you're talking about something completely different
        Look up John McPhee

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jim "Wild Carrot" Shorten went into Laos or Cambodia to do a 1 man recon mission in order to locate and call a fire mission on an NVA tank element and wound up stumbling through a concealed NVA HQ with thousands of dudes occupying it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go on

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The games shit

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's only individual accounts of guys doing splintercell or mgs stuff in a war zone.
    Most are one off events that happened because of extraordinary conditions.
    The only 3 people coming to mind who's job it was to do this vidya-type stuff are:
    >Carlos Hathcock
    A Vietnam sniper who didn't work with a spotter. On several occasions he crawled for days straight behind enemy lines to kill enemy HVTs and sabotage enemy equipment and defensive positions.
    >Simo Hya
    A Finnish sniper who hunted Russian soldiers during the winter war after WW2. He regularly went on solo missions behind enemy lines hunting enemy HVTs and entire squads of enemies.
    >Vasili Zaitsev
    Another solo sniper, though he wasn't always operating solo. He did the same as the other 2 during WW2 against the German occupiers of Stalingrad.

    One guy doing super secret squirrel shit is very rare and incredibly dangerous. It's quite common for a small squad of special ops guys doing all the shit you see in splintercell or MGS or other stealth action games.

    • 2 months ago
      Sage

      Pretty sure that Billy Waugh did some of this stuff. Mayne not assassinations but with Intel and clandestine work

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what you just described are hit and run sniper/partisan tactics meant to nip at the heel of an army. Not really comparable to splinter cell.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also the guy in the balkan wars that drove a black camero through warzones. Dankula did a vid on

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Snipers aren't equivalent to the Splinter Cell or MGS protags.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Carlos hathcock crawled for a day or two through some fields to pop a general in the dome I believe, then crawled back out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vietnamese couldn't take a GAZ or two with a machine gun and rush him?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You won't locate a sniper after one shot

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So you are telling me you should just leave the sniper alone? You wouldn't get a whole company/platoon/whatever to search and get the motherfucker? What better thing they have to do?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You fucking take cover.

            Yes of course, the perfect man is a psychopath that invades foreign countries to kill and sabotage so his home country can earn some money

            [...]

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mossad did this all the time

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    some cag guys go on solo recce missions .

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Original splinter cell games borrowed heavily from a french (it's an ubisoft game) formation the 13e Régiment de Dragons Parachutistes who indeed does stuff like this.
    Historically it has been a means to mitigate intel needs from a lack of recon planes/sats the french are often victim of, it meant infiltrate a very small group far beyond ennemy lines and set up surveillance devices.

    Their unusual ops does involve singular soldiers infiltrating ennemy structures and getting out after intel recovery (which a second soldier is tasked to exfil/transmit).

    It's one regiment as it is that trains in individual stealth skills to be paramount and in all aspects of "get in, get out" (from subs, HALO, etc...). And the work they do is gruesome, they literrally dig holes and hide sometimes for weeks living likes roaches waiting for something to happen takes a few photos and get the fuck out. They're guys that if they have to shoot have messed up big time (and aren't long for the world).
    That's largely why no-one heard of them they're "unsexy" as fuck. You hear about GIGN about the seals and whatnot because all of those are sexy "direct assault" spec ops.

    The US doesn't need guys like that they have the NRO and CIA gazillion of drones. They don't need a low tech solution.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot the video:

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >french (it's an ubisoft game)
      both of the writers were americans though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >both of the writers were americans though
        Yes but what if I tell you this old picture is from the 13e RDP doing sewer infiltration in the 80's.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          mon sewer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cool as fuck picture

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot the video:

      The Frogs can be fun.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      TFO does stuff like this, sit on top of a mountain for three weeks freezing your ass off with a big camera to snap a few pics

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    look up the "sheriff of baghdad", there should be a few interviews of what he did in afghanistan and iraq

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      2nd this post. Shrek (and CAG) did some secret squirrel shit.

      One of my old employers was a LRRP Vietnam vet. As he explains it, skilled individual(s) would be tasked with a solo or 2man recon mission.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sam Fisher was ex CAG

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          False, he was DEVGRU then CIA
          Get your lore squared away

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does this happen in real life?
    NSA Scorpion Program and CIA SAC

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stand-Alone Complex?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        special activities

        i'm already in a ton of shit

        pray more, noone wants to get vivisected

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the dia are fucking canadians

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck would they do that? There is no third person perspective in real life, how would you know how to navigate a building without being spotted? Sure you can go by sound, but what if someone unexpectedly enters the room you're in and there is no place to hide? I guess you could shoot the guy and hide the body. But that's not as clean as "Silent Assassin" rating in Hitman and whatever was the MGS equivalent. Real life doesn't also have magical "chaff" grenades like in the early MGS games. Shooting a camera would probably raise an alarm and the whole base would be after you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >skill issue

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most buildings in the world don't have roving patrols 24/7 or even actively monitored CCTV. Just wait till night and for the night shift guards to get complacent.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's bullshit, i worked in a shitty parking lot, we had cameras, lots. pretty much everything was covered.
        I'm sure some terrorist base in the mountains has cameras too, and if they don't, they can compensate with plenty of armed guards.
        it's pretty much impossible to inflitrate a half-decently guarded compound all alone, unless one of the guards helps you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, a lot of what Snake and Fisher do hinges on save-scumming and third-person view.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, a lot of what Snake and Fisher do hinges on save-scumming and third-person view.

      I wonder how MGS and Splinter Cell would play if they were strictly first person only.
      Also, Silent Assassin in Hitman doesn't mean much in the latest trilogy. It's far too easy to walk around with a propane tank, chuck it near someone's feet along with a micro explosive or taser, and have that count as a completely undetected accident kill.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        MGS has first person since MGS 1 Integral I think?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine Thief, the game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like this?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sam fisher
    septum sermones ad mortuos

    electronic reconissance

    electronic warfare more art than science

    take it or leave it

    chaos theory had a bit of dialog about swarm intelligence (nucleic acid computing)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      jean baudrillard's gulf war trilogy: strategic fing magic

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jack Kirby. Yes, the Fantastic Four guy. He was a scout in WW2, used to crawl past the front lines and sketch enemy positions.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man that franchise got super gay super fast. First game was amazing and straight from the pages of Clancy. Second one was great gameplay but the story got Bond-ish. Shit went full retard amazon special after that.

    But to your point, Splinter Cell is a weird fantasy that rests in the rather broad line between outright espionage and Seals and Recon stuff. Overall there’s really no reason you would ever need a guy running around clad in black tacticool gear to kill someone or collect intel. It’s like the worst of both worlds for tasks that already have designated specialists.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If that were a thing then how would we know about it

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it does, you'll never hear about it.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it wouldn't make any sense, if you can put 1 man behind enemy lines, why wouldn't you put at least 3? it's just as hard to detect 3 spec ops guys, but they can do a lot more than 1 guy.
    these games are unrealistic as shit anyway, even call of duty "stealth" scripted missions are more realistic than sandboxy metal gear and splinter cell, because bad guys can't be calmed down after alarm goes off and you don't typically operate alone.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do spies work alone
    Yes, sometimes, and some more often than others
    >Do they do Metal Gear Solid Splinter Cell James Bond Tom Clancy stuff?
    No. Retard. This is RL.
    >Does anyone do deniable behind enemy lines action hero stuff?
    Most special forces outfits will have at least a little of that in their mission files, but it's still RL and a lot less action movie/video gamey than you'd like it to be.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, here in the US we called them school shooters. Its a 2 man job, 1 guy goes in running and gunning while the other guy does all the actual seeking around.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shit like that did exist in history, but almost always they were either messengers or people acting as spies while working a small job near the targets of interest. For your Sam Fisher types thats pretty much always just an extreme case of the stars aligning in the worst way and them barely sneaking out of a fuckhuge force alive, like that ‘Nam pilot who had entire ARVN Ranger and heli support while crossing rivers for days evading the NVA. Speaking of Vietnam had a ton of crazy shit go on, but I am certain thats just because Vietnam was just a giant testbed for the DoD/MIC to see what kind of Batman tier shit worked and what didn’t with typical Cold War craziness.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not deep behind enemy lines but 1-3 man scout teams would sneak around at night in nam and try to gather intel acording to my anglco grandpa

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    would we really know about the successful ones
    isn't the whole point that they aren't found out.

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