Does the war in Ukraine finally prove the M4 is superior to the AK?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no that's been proven since 1994

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I personally think it is but this doesn't prove it. Small arms play a very small role here and both sides are mostly using AKs

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen more Brens than ARs on Ukraine's side throughout this entire thing.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. Ukies mostly use AK. Marines & spetsnaz seem to use tavorz. Foreign volunteers don't seem to use that many ARs either.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think what you've been seeing is actually a Malyuk. I haven't seen a single tavor in Ukraine

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There are some Ukrainian copies of the tavor (Fort 221) floating around, but they Are really rare. Saw some early war photos with them but I haven’t seen any in months .

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have literally not seen a single AR during the war until this picture.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >M4 is superior to the AK
    Rifle shoot bullet.

    The difference between their performances, if it exists, was probably not a significant contributor to the war's outcome. Not to mention that Ukraine still uses AK variants, mostly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This, really. Rifles don't matter that much. The vast majority of casualties from today to 1914 has been artillery. It's turning out even more so today the use of artillery and drones is what really matters. Tanks, IFVs, and APCs are impactful when the right conditions have been found and set up to conduct an offensive like in Kherson but if they're just sitting around on the front line they get knocked out on a regular basis.

      M4 vs AK is irrelevant.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kharkiv, not Kherson (though maybe soon.)

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't they primarily using AKs and a smattering of Bren 2s and Malyuks?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The better units, the less AKs are used. From videos of spec ops behind Russian lines they are armed only with NATO weapons and Malyuks

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fun fact, when Georgia was invaded in 2008 some of their troops had AKs, and some had M4s donated by the US. A postwar study found the guys with M4s had a much lower malfunction rate than the ones with AKs.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no lint or hair in the Velcro so its a gay photo shoot

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >AK and AR intermixed
    Must be a logistical nightmare.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      except not, you can hand troops in a certain area one weapon and give it its own supply chain. Crazy I know.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      From what I've seen the front line regular troops get AKs, spec ops get AKs or M4s, and support troops get a mishmash of donated weapons. It's hard to know if what you see is representative though.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nice

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I’m amazed by the amount of gAyR fanbois who need constant validation that their precious rifle is somehow superior. It’s honestly sad lmao

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