Does NATO posses the capability of stopping a Russian invasion of Europe without resorting to nukes?

Does NATO posses the capability of stopping a Russian invasion of Europe without resorting to nukes?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bro have you been paying attention? A non nuclear conventional war wouldn’t even reach Poland before Russia gets annihilated.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pov you dont know what total war means

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        POV: you unironically think Russia is holding back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pov you dont know what total war means
        you don't know what canister and grape shot does to human wave attacks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >peepeepoopoo zoomer meme total war something something
        You're a fucking retard.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no
    russia has the advantage in every statistic that matters

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, Russia has by far the most raped and most killed unarmed conscript peasants available

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Indeed.
      Russia should immediately proceed with invasion.
      There's no way they could lose and then be rolled back to Vladivostok.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which statistics matter?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All Russians are morons that just happen to be the wrong color, tho.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Russia advance further than 40 km without their logistics becoming a complete shambles?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not after bahkmut is captured, entirety of nato hinges on bahkmut not falling into the hands of the free world.

    tik tok.
    2 more days.
    Then paris.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are joking right ? Fucking russian bitches are daying like pigs and i like it ! Fuck them

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have an even better question.
    in the entire sad history of the russian country, did they ever win even 1 offensive war, EVER?
    i swear every time i hear russia invaded somebody - anybody, it always ended with a complete fucking disaster for the russians.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does NATO posses the capability of stopping a Russian invasion of Europe without resorting to nukes?
      hypothetically, in feb 23 2022, without the US, i don't think so, russia may suck but they have tons of shit. now with everyone rearming themselves and Poland being there with all the cool new toys, no chance.

      ofc they did. russia became the biggest country on earth like every other empire and they genocided everyone who they managed to conquer. they may be shitty in warfare but always had quantity advantage and complete disregard for human life.
      look at ukraine and you have every answer you need at how they operate and operated for ages
      >grab land
      >kill everyone who resists
      >kill everyone in politics/art/literature who wasn't willing to collaborate
      >force everyone to speak and write russian
      >rewrite history
      and there you have it, new territory, resources and fucking nobody to tell how that happened. and now in 2023 you have tons of retards saying pidorashkas dindu nuffin they were the most peaceful country on the planet and always fought defensive wars
      and it's just so happened they have borders from europe to fucking china.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My man, they didn’t even make it half way through Ukraine before collapsing spectacularly. How would they make it to the Vistula river, let alone the Rhine? They may have made it half way through the baltic countries and that’s about it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >My man, they didn’t even make it half way through Ukraine before collapsing spectacularly.
          don't dismiss ukies, they were willing to fight and were ready. they fought on their own in first fase of war with their own old ass soviet shit.
          how many countries in eu you can name that have enough supplies for like at least month of fighting? enough ammo/155 shells? or maybe ready to fight tanks and armored vehicles? and most important, people ready for a fight, ukrainians had army with experience of conventinal fighting.
          europe in terms of military force fucking sucked on 23 feb 2022 and i'm not even starting to talk about politics. how many euro politicians would be willing to just give monke some territory so he fucks off? or like how many times someone like hungary will just veto some eu parliament decision to send forces to fight ruskies. as we saw with ukraine, eu and nato are slow as fuck in decision making. also let's assume ruskies weren't expecting everyone to greet them with open arms and were ready for a fight. and the moment about air defense, it's cool to joke "what air defense doing" but russian AD is no joke itself, ukrainian planes and helis are not flying close to it.
          idk man, without the US i don't believe euros had high chances to repel russian advances or resist long enough.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >idk man, without the US i don't believe euros had high chances to repel russian advances or resist long enough.
            But "without the US" was never a realistic scenario. Also while it is true that the countries closer to Russia are more militaristic, you shouldn't forget that there is a causal relation between these two factors. The closer you are to Russia, the more military you need to feel safe. If Russia succesfully invaded Ukraine, Poland or the Baltics, you bet your ass militarism in Germany, France, Benelux would rise accordingly. Would that be enough to stop a strong Russia? I don't know. But people act like these things are completely static.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              to be honest i tend to agree, guess i just don't want to dismiss russia as a threat right away, they still have a lot of armored shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough, I just wanted to clarify.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody who knows will tell you how much of what is at what state of readiness. Because, you know, those are military secrets. Russia couldn’t even achieve air superiority over Ukraine. How would they achieve air superiority over say, Poland? They would have been bombed into oblivion, even without the USAF.
            Do you really think that NATO planners sat on their asses since 91 and did not produce defensive plans for literally every conceivable scenario involving Russia attacking one or more of their members?
            Russia turned out to be a paper tiger incapable of performing large scale maneuver warfare right at their border.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              kek, the poles would ass rape the russkies on land and the air. god the kvetching from the vatniks would block out the sun.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              poland has more AA launchers in their forests than trees, any enemy flying over poland would get its air force deleted in 15 seconds, and its hilarious.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >any enemy
                The USAF has entered the chat.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >USAF launches its 9000 fighter jets from its carrier groups and fly over poland to eliminate designated targets
                >lock on detected
                >lock on detected
                >lock on detected
                >lock on detected
                >lock on detected
                >unit lost
                >unit lost
                >unit lost
                >unit lost
                >unit lost
                >unit lost

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > russian AA
                How's Engels air base?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >russian aa
                >poland
                you can pick one, but only one.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >russian AA

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >

                >russian aa
                >poland
                you can pick one, but only one.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess by >unit lost here you mean HARMs hitting AA installations?
                moron, read up on SEAD. How many fucking lock-ons in an EA-18G Growler environment do you think would be capable of doing anything?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >HARM
                >SEAD
                im totally clueless what it is, but im guessing its one of those magical wunderwaffe things that are supposed to do *a thing*, but in reality the last time it was tested was against ANYTHING was in 1980 against an iraqi in flip flips, lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vatmoron unable to understand modern warfare more news at 11

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                HARMs have been blowing up vatmoron AA left and right in Ukraine over the last couple months, once the Ukies found a way to integrate them into their sov vintage birds.

                As for SEAD? Well, if you're so ignorant that you don't know about basic concepts of aerial warfare, why not try to shut the fuck up instead of displaying your ignorance to everyone?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >proud of being a retarded moron
                lol

                I guess by >unit lost here you mean HARMs hitting AA installations?
                moron, read up on SEAD. How many fucking lock-ons in an EA-18G Growler environment do you think would be capable of doing anything?

                Navy planes aren’t shit for SEAD, USAF would be doing the heavy lifting with F-35s and wild weasel F-16s

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yet Poland needs Yurop to send fighters to protect its skies.
                Explain.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no, them weathering and breaking the first attacks is absolutely their own achievement. If Zelensky fled the country you'd have like 5-6 Kherson treacheries from undecided opportunists, if they lost Kyiv they'd get fuck-all for military aid, only humanitarian aid for refugees and that's it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >If Zelensky fled the country
              Call him a garden gnome or whatever, but you gotta give him credit where it's due.
              Any other corrupt politician would have fled to a safer place, and maybe command from there. Instead he hunkered down along with his country, and even visited the frontlines several times. His morale boost and gibs begging can be mocked, but it does work.
              It's funny how a comedian became the right person for the job at, if you tell me this before the war I would've laughed it off.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll gladly give him the credit for the massive effort he does, he's a morale and media man and he's doing an excellent job with that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you gotta give him credit where it's due.
                Absolutely, I don't think anybody has ever murdered a few hundred thousand retarded goyem as easy as our boy Z.
                Kudos to him for backing away from reasonable negotiations.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this much salt is bad for your health...

                its really impressive that he did not fold - if he did Russia would have its buffer zone...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                garden gnomes are fighters. Being screwed over countless times over the centuries tends to make people pretty fucking stubborn. If war ever came to my country, I'd want a garden gnome leading us.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >how many countries in eu you can name that have enough ammo/155 shells? or maybe ready to fight tanks and armored vehicles?
            Instead of 155 shells, ask about how many JDAMs they have. How many GBUs? How many F-35s, F-15s, Typhoons, Rafales?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >how many countries in eu you can name that have enough supplies for like at least month of fighting?
            I dunno. Countries like Poland? The new Polish war doctrine hinges on the idea that they would have to fight Russia solo, because they flat out assume Germany and France will fold the second Russia enters NATO territory. The other Polish war doctrine is "in case you chucklefucks try to outsmart us and attack the Baltics instead, we are calling dibs on Koningsberg".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >How would they make it to the Vistula river
          You might wanna look up the Polish-Soviet war.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hypothetically, in feb 23 2022, without the US, i don't think so, russia
        How would this work out? They stumbled down a proverbial flight of stairs with Ukraine, which at the time was one of the less prepared countries in Europe.
        The Russian armed forces were widely dysfunctional enough in tactics and logistics that they quickly faced serious hardships in a land invasion right across their borders, the mile long columns of bogged down armor exemplifies bad tactical planning, bad logistics, and bad preparedness. This was something which should not have happened.

        They do damage, and they take ground, sure, but incredibly inefficiently, with great losses in manpower, equipment, and other resources. The Russian offensive peaked a very long time ago, and I have no reason to believe it wouldn't be the same against Poland, Finland, Serbia, etc. They have large quantities of military hardware, but much of it is old and has been poorly stored or serviced, a lot has been stolen, and widespread failures in practicing combined arms make much of the modest advantages this would provide as basically null.

        This absolutely Africa tier in terms of waging war.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >against [...] Serbia
          Serbia is friendly towards Russia so there's no need to include them. Doing so proves your lack of knowledge on the subject, yet you are right in that they couldn't push more than a quarter of the way into eastern euro NATO. Their european allies wouldn't start shit anyway, they couldn't rely on the serbian military to start a balkan front at the same time they start a polish front, because the serbian army would be surrounded by NATO forces and melted in a week of pure combined arms combat. I don't know if they have any say in Macedonia, but I doubt it, and it would be useless. They need a third of european armies as allies to stand a chance at reaching Warsaw or Bucharest. Also, no air superiority and no fleets, all NATO navies would finally get to do their job and destroy the Baltic/Black Sea/Med russian fleets. Drones and air superiority is the new meta, combined arms + basically. Else you get stuck in trenches, apparently. Russia has neither of those, and NATO has the best drones/airplanes/aa defense in the world, it's very stacked against them, and would lead to their loss, although not instantly.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They stumbled down a proverbial flight of stairs with Ukraine, which at the time was one of the less prepared countries in Europe.
          How was Ukraine unprepared? They anticipated this invasion for years.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not unprepared, but not as prepared as others.

            >against [...] Serbia
            Serbia is friendly towards Russia so there's no need to include them. Doing so proves your lack of knowledge on the subject, yet you are right in that they couldn't push more than a quarter of the way into eastern euro NATO. Their european allies wouldn't start shit anyway, they couldn't rely on the serbian military to start a balkan front at the same time they start a polish front, because the serbian army would be surrounded by NATO forces and melted in a week of pure combined arms combat. I don't know if they have any say in Macedonia, but I doubt it, and it would be useless. They need a third of european armies as allies to stand a chance at reaching Warsaw or Bucharest. Also, no air superiority and no fleets, all NATO navies would finally get to do their job and destroy the Baltic/Black Sea/Med russian fleets. Drones and air superiority is the new meta, combined arms + basically. Else you get stuck in trenches, apparently. Russia has neither of those, and NATO has the best drones/airplanes/aa defense in the world, it's very stacked against them, and would lead to their loss, although not instantly.

            It's less about them going against Serbia (they probably wouldn't, no), and more that they wouldn't do any better against them if they ever were to.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What others? Who was more prepared than Ukraine?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Almost all of Russia is uninhabited wastelands.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i have the same question
      and no nomadic inuit tribes of siberia don't count

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does south Ossetia count?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >did they ever win even 1 offensive war, EVER?
      How do you think they got all that territory, lmao?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        By being the Mongols' lackeys and inheriting the spoils after infighting did them in?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/bgMywVw.jpg

        >Does NATO posses the capability of stopping a Russian invasion of Europe without resorting to nukes?
        hypothetically, in feb 23 2022, without the US, i don't think so, russia may suck but they have tons of shit. now with everyone rearming themselves and Poland being there with all the cool new toys, no chance.

        ofc they did. russia became the biggest country on earth like every other empire and they genocided everyone who they managed to conquer. they may be shitty in warfare but always had quantity advantage and complete disregard for human life.
        look at ukraine and you have every answer you need at how they operate and operated for ages
        >grab land
        >kill everyone who resists
        >kill everyone in politics/art/literature who wasn't willing to collaborate
        >force everyone to speak and write russian
        >rewrite history
        and there you have it, new territory, resources and fucking nobody to tell how that happened. and now in 2023 you have tons of retards saying pidorashkas dindu nuffin they were the most peaceful country on the planet and always fought defensive wars
        and it's just so happened they have borders from europe to fucking china.

        >How do you think they got all that territory, lmao?
        isnt it just all empty steppes, populated with a few asians?
        >google european borders between 1000-1800
        >russia always started somewhere near moscow and stretched far east into mordor
        as far as i can tell, russia has zero legal rights to demand anything in europe thats west from moscow.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The vast majority of that is empty space populated by hunter-gatherer peoples.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mighty Russian anus. Jk but it was basically cowboys and Indians: even drunker annd slower edition, + post WW2 landgrabbing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they murdered entire towns in hungary in 56

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ottomans?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they fucked napoleon up when the rest of europe couldn't, but it's kind of been a slow downhill for them ever since

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Offensive war, Anon.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They were on the defensive against Napoleon, so it doesn't count towards that anon's argument. Russia can not win offensivelly, especially against 80% of Europe.

          well yeah, the main reason napoleon lost was the russian invasion (and spain), but then the sixth coalition offensive decisively ended napoleon's streak, so you kind of have to give it to them

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were on the defensive against Napoleon, so it doesn't count towards that anon's argument. Russia can not win offensivelly, especially against 80% of Europe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correction, they fucked up Napoleon with the rest of Europe helping, after losing the battles they fought against Napoleon, who successfully took Moscow.

        They also lucked out with uncommonly early and intense winter weather and Napoleon being ill and beset by other problems.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only against much weaker underdogs and even that not always. Usually by the same playbook.
      The Twitter thread (yeah yeah I know, still useful as a list of events) about "Russian colonialism" has a huge list of wikipedia links and that's only from 20th century.

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1495323069539405826.html

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tourist nerd

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They successfully fucked up the Turks in 1876

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know the bar is very low but they won against turks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They rolled back the Japanese occupation of Manchuria, once they'd conquered Berlin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      russia never won a war.
      it got to its size just out of stupidity. dumb slavs, lol.
      hail america.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It got to its size by taking a whole lot of empty wastelands that had at best the odd nomad tribe living in them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          americans didn't take america, lol.
          they just came on empty land.
          they were actually fed by the two locals who saw them starving.
          pussy bitch mongrel nation.
          has it ever legit won a war?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia even lost the Russian civil war

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              americans lost mutiple.
              sad

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And?

            >has it ever legit won a war?

            It was literally founded by winning a war.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ?? Russia was created by the Mongols who crushed the Rus armies, Novgorod yielded without a fight

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It was literally founded by winning a war
              usa is not a country. there's no founding.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pretty soon Russia won't be a country, good fucking riddance

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                mutt envy. why am I not surprised?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                again with the projection, its Russians who are not an ethnicity

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mutt projects insecurity onto others
                imagine my shock

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the Russians literally have an ancient document listing all the founder races of Russia and Russians are it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And they will all die soon, vatmorons will go extinct and we will achieve global peace. Your people are rapists and thieves, you are a threat to humanity and you will be put down like the rabid animals you are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia is Africa tier, who envies them?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Khanate_of_Sibir

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >in the entire sad history of the russian country, did they ever win even 1 offensive war, EVER?
      the conquest of the tribal peoples in siberia

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As we see, Ukraine has enough power to stop a Russian invasion of Europe
    Lol, LMAO even

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's see, on the Donbass eastern most front, Russia has made a grand total of 20-30 miles advancement in the past year, and is now bogged down in a small town called Bakhmut. So, I wouldn't worry about it tbf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia has made a grand total of 20-30 miles advancement in the past year,

      That means The Red Army is just 50 years away from reaching the English Channel. King Charles should surrender now.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can't even properly invade a country near them, what do you think?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Before their invasion of Ukraine, after 30 years of NATO complacency and disarmament, and the image of the invincible Soviet military still maintained, possibly. Their Baltic plan still hinges on a whole bunch of NATO forces giving up without a fight. A single holdout would potentially fuck up the plan.

    Now though, after the Russian military has been exposed as a badly managed, obsolete joke and with NATO forces on high alert and with Europe beginning the process of remilitarization? Not a chance in hell. The Russians had one chance to pull off something like this and they blew it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they blew it by annexing the biggest country in europe gotcha

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *failing to annex
        Fixed that for you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        (you)

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can't even manage to take Ukraine in a year.
    Now imagine them trying to invade just another country as well.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are in the process of invading Belarus.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh wow. That has taken them what, almost 30 years?
        Fantastic, just two more weeks, then.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does Russia posses the capability of conquering Ukraine without resorting to nukes?

        Does Russia posses the capability of conquering Bakhmut without resorting to nukes?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anon the Florida air national guard can stop Russia let alone all of NATO

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They wouldn't even reach the Danube, even in february conditions, they wouldn't have been able to use air assets over Romania or Moldova and the black sea fleet would have been wiped by the american/turkish/british fleets, so no coastal bombardments. They would also need 4 giant fronts, 1 for Scandinavia, 2-3 for Poland/Romania and 1 for Turkey, which would mean somehow passing the Caucasus, where they have enemies and shittier terrain than imaginable. Western countries woulf quickly print fighting equipment, and there are 60k american soldiers just in eastern europe, and 100k more would arrive in 24hrs after they start their movements. Tldr no way gay. It would be a disaster.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the question you should first ask yourself is does russia have the capability to invade europe?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia will attack Europe a few months after China invades Taiwan.
    With the whole US military baited into the Pacific, Russian-Chinese troops will swarm out of what is now Ukraine and Belarus and overrun all of undefended Europe before America can even move in to match.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are already US troops stationed permanently in Europe, you would have to attack Turkey through Caucasus as well, and you just lost your only ally there 4 months ago. Your fleet would be rubble in the first minutes, and the German, Polish, Romanian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovak combined force can defend Europe indefinitely with some minor French help, while every other NATO member can support USA overseas (Great Britain will help in the Pacific don't worry Chang).
      >undefended Europe
      You were lulled into a false sense of superiority which will be your downfall. Shitskins see self-criticism and believe it to be a sign of weakness, they can not improve unless the white man kicks them forward.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chniknig over there acting like it's 1910.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no Russia will be in Berlin in 1 week if they want to

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well you can drop the vdv and they'll prolly get slaughtered soon after, but hey, they have been to Berlin. No one specified for how long will said being in Berlin last.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        VDVs will be slaughter by Turkish and Arabs gangs if they drop into the wrong district of Berlin. These families won't give away their territorial power easily.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DVD Drops into Berlin
        >after a month of shuffling troops and producing ammo, the Bundeswehr finally starts their reclamation of Berlin.
        >Only to find out that the Arabs and Roaches exterminated the Russians and the turks also killed all the Kurds as a bonus

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Arabs and Roaches

          LMAO, they'll be lucky if the hooligans and the horde of public workers tilting out because of all the scheduling chaos leave anything left for them. Like, seriously, german public workers whose schedule you jsut ruined? That shit's scary, man.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many export tanks would they have to steal to achieve the goals laid out in this video?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1800km is not a distance for a modern army
      >gets stuck 100km in foreign territory for 9 months and counting

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd argue we should use the nukes even if we can
    Inshallah

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey man, I've been in a coma since February 26th 2022, has Russia already started it's invasion of Poland?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They accidentlaly pushed too far, went all the way around the world, and ended up back at the Russo-Ukrainian border again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We will start within two weeks.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Huh, vatnik shills are active today. And they seem to be improving, plenty of good subtle shilling in this thread.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland on its own probably could stop a Russian invasion and possibly take kaliningrad and overthrow lukashenko. NATO would rapidly repel an invasion and within 6 months have invaded and gained control of major Russian cities in the west and on the pacific coasts. There would also be no Russian air force or navy.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In what kind of fantasy world are we where scandinavia is red?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally just offer a free bottle of Vodka to any Russian who turns around and leaves lmao

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Poles, Balts, and Brits alone could end Russia.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The better question is if the Russians could stop an Ukrainian invasion without resorting to nukes

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is hardly able to take one salt mine in the middle of fucking nowhere, I don't think NATO would have a problem holding them back.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Whats up with all your Himmler fantasies? Sure, the nazis looked good, but you dont need to suck their cocks because of it...

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    u ok PrepHoletrannies?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Says the shitskin lel, at least the polish are in Europe.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We need to exterminate russians, notice how it's not the polish that have started wars in the past 2 centuries. Wars are bad, polish people are peaceful, therefore they are good, unlike you.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does NATO posses the capability of stopping a Russian invasion of Europe without resorting to nukes?
    Estonia alone has capacity of stopping Russian invasion even without NATO help.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    that poolacks invaded USSR back in 1920
    no they didnt.
    that poolacks started ww2 with invasion of germany
    no they didnt.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that poolacks invaded USSR back in 1920
      >no they didnt.
      Yes they did. They invaded ukraine and lithuania too.
      that poolacks started ww2 with invasion of germany
      no they didnt.
      1919-1921 they did, unless you also believe Russia played no part in the conflict in ukraine for the 8 years prior to the 2022 invasion.
      1939 there wasn't an invasion but there was a shit ton of violence against ukranian, belarussian, and german minorities in poland along with dozens of small scale skirmishes along the border with germany, along with poland violating international treaties repeatedly within the city of danzig itself, shooting at german civilian passenger planes overhead, closing down minority schools, denying minorities jobs or education, refusing to prosecute crimes of rape and murder against minorities, all of whom were forced into poland either by polish military conquest or via post ww1 treaties
      danzig wasn't even polish, not by international law (league of nations mandate) or by population (>90% german and who wanted to join germany, repeatedly)
      Poles refused to negotiate during the week before the war so germs had to go through Britain, who sent Germany a list of demands and conditions before danzig could go to Germany on behalf of Poland, but also on their advice poland refused to send any negotiators

      An interesting note is that Roosevelt knew ahead of time about the secret accord to divide Poland between Germany and Russia but the poles didn't, yet he didn't tell anyone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >let me tell you my imaginary fairy tale version of history
        nobody asked you for that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, he's probably Russian. Fairytale version of history is the only version they have.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Poland is part of Nato, and ontop of that hates the Black folks of europe (Russians) so they are on our side in this conflict.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Conniving morons but wrong color by accident, that is what you are. Mobilize yourself and die while sucking your CO's AIDS dick

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You are anti white traitor if you defend russhits
    fixed that for ya, lad.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you possess the capability of not posting slide threads you stupid gorilla gopnik?

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >much needed resources

    Like dead Russians contribooting to demographic decline.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >only start wars, leech gibs, and cry victim
    that sounds like russia lmao

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    a shitskin and a tankie, christ what a mess your life is

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >importing crime and theft to the UK
    are you talking about russians bro.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    whhoaaaaa, really?!
    no way, bro!
    can you prove that?
    no no no, the pol image you saved in 2002 doesnt count.

    god you people are sad and pathetic.
    literally nothing can be worse than a russhit moron.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Polacks in UK prisons has a higher living standard then most russians, and that isnt even a meme

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    waiting until their columns run out of fuel 50 km from border would be enough

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because God and righteousness are on the side of Russia. Homos and trannies are beaten in public in Russia, so God will favor them and give them victory in the end. It's really that simple.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Russia posses the capability of conquering Ukraine without resorting to nukes?

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    t:t

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey OP, how long were you in a coma?

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno really. With the current Russia/Ukraine shit it seems Modern Warfare(tm) went full circle back to WW1 but that could just be a bad combo of tweaked Soviet tactics duking it out with modern tech that's just the same shit from WW2 but spray painted tacticool tan and more accurate.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany, Italy, Austria etc? Not a chance. Their military readiness is total dogshit and they've been making full use of the fact that they know the US will bail them out (even though Austria isn't in NATO)

    UK and France? Would hold up decently. Strong enough to not fold, but lack meaningfully large reserves.

    Unfortunately for Russia, there is one angry motherfucker between him and the perpetually demilitarizing shitters in west Europe, and it's Poland, who has been building up its military like crazy for a decade now, has both modern equipment and modern manufacturing capability, and gets a stiffy at the thought of seeing a mobik disembowled by a 155mm shrapnel shard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is honestly the main problem european countries have; its not ammunition, its reservists. Revoking the draft was a fucking mistake on several levels

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok I've figured it out Soledar held hence why we geting a full force shiting up the board with no lube or breaks prob ukies inflicted critical losses to ruskies in a process

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everything that's being reported from Soledar is that fighting is brutal and while Ukraine is losing many soldiers, Russia is losing even more. Safely ignore any "according to RT." The town isn't being surrounded, isn't at risk of being surrounded, and isn't being overrun. The only thing that has changed is they've pivoted from throwing meat at Bakhmut to throwing meat at Soledar hoping they caught Ukrainian forces there by surprise.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hey russia, you suck

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go to bed, John Titor, you are drunk.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Then why does the US have a strong economy and the most powerful military might in all of human history, while Russia is incredibly poor, has an army of ill equipped and ill supported cavemen, and hit an absolute wall trying to do a land invasion right across the border against a post-Soviet shithole like Ukraine? Why the Africa tier rates of AIDS and rape? Why the wide illiteracy and lack of indoor plumbing or internet?

    America has morons, sure, but Russia manages to act like they're a country of Africa style morons in spite of being comparatively whiter (ostensibly, I won't get into churkas and what not). Seems like things aren't adding up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh economy
      what do you make except bombs? everything you need is imported from china.
      you have no identity, no history.
      everything you make is low iq trash.
      fast food. consumerist music, ooga booga movies.
      you have nothing of value.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What does Russia make?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          everything

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did you know Russia has oranges?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          did you know russia has onions?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wanna guess what is of value? The American military. Wsnt to guess has 0 value? The Russian military. Can't even invade their neighbor properly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if russia has culture, name me three (3) cultural exports that anyone cares about

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >pic related is stronger than the Russian military
    Lol Russia is pathetic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you admit america is fighting in ukraine?
      guess it's losing, bucko.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm sure the Russians will have a laugh about all the trannies in the American military as their brains are splattering on the floor from an AGM-88 explosion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the trannies will use the guns on them or on you.
      you basedcuck gay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you say so.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you lost in iraq

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How’s is this even a topic that deserves discussion in the current day? You gays even read the news? Russia can’t even get past a hodgepodge of 30 year old NATO and Soviet equipment in eastern Ukraine

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia would reach Lisbon in two weeks!

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In all seriousness 2022 was a huge revelation. It is now obvious to any observer that Russia cannot match NATO ground forces. Even the idea of a Russian attack is laughable. Their strategic parity with the West is based only on nuclear weapons.
    As this new reality slowly sets in I actually expect to see some European governments argue for decreased defence spending again. We'll see.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yes, the American military.

    https://i.imgur.com/yRYjKZG.jpg

    you admit america is fighting in ukraine?
    guess it's losing, bucko.

    May we see it?

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Denmark holds compared to nearly all of Europe
    What the fuck?

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the puny niche nation of Finland, with its 5.6 million people, able to resist the might of theRussian bear in this retard's head?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        finland has satanist black magic seals all over the border meant to resurrect Simo Haya's undead corpse the moment the russian army trips them up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's brown and third world

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I talked with this former gunnery sergeant once while I was in military school. He did one of the first joint training things with the russians after the USSR collapsed. He was amazed at how little range time the soviet troops received. they got maybe 10-20% of the range time US troops get in basic training. he knew russia and the USSR was a paper tiger after that.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Easily. There's a reason why NATO hasn't once mentioned its own nuclear arsenal while the Monke Tsar constantly shitflings about his own. We don't need it to kick his arse.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just did the math and, based on Russia's current rate of advance, they should be able to reach Paris in approximately 88 years.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NATO could feasibly invade the Russian Federation with almost 100% chances of success.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better question, does Russia have the capability of capturing Bakhmut without resorting to nukes?

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Easy.

    Whirlpool will make as many Washing Machines as it takes to make a roadblock the likes the world has never seen!

    The infighting as Comrade Conscriptovich is stopped by Colonel Kelptovisky which is then taken by General Oligarkov will be epic. Russia will lose with NATO Forces firing a single shot.

    Oh, and this all assumes that they burst out of Koenigsburg, since the Ukies have kept Russia nice and buttoned up otherwise.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whithout China? France or the UK could face Russia alone and win, most of the ""big"" countries there too if Russia doesn't use nukes.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Short answer: yes. Long answer: yeeeeeeeeeessssssss.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Europe
    moron they can't even take Bakhmut

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I simply can’t see a scenario where the Russian air defense network is able to hold up indefinitely under the amount of SEAD and tactical missile strikes that NATO could put up, and once it crumbles, it would be all ogre for Russia once for all. Not that I would expect Russia to be supreme in ground warfare either, not a chance, but at least on that front they probably could hold the line for a while due to sheer numbers, as it probably would take time for NATO forces to reach full numbers in the frontline, and I don’t see NATO doing any suicide-risk attacks as everyone knows that in the long game NATOs supreme power would come from the air superiority and crushing Russians through exact long-range fire, not massive assaults.

    To add to this, imagine how the Ukraine front would look now if every single major Russian war asset hanging around behind the combat lines got ATACMS’d, Tomahawked or stealth bombed to oblivion.

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