Does it make sense to not shoot suppressed 100% of the time for the sake of preserving the life of your guns internals (reducing parts wear) or lifesp...

Does it make sense to not shoot suppressed 100% of the time for the sake of preserving the life of your guns internals (reducing parts wear) or lifespan of the suppressor itself?

If you’re wearing ear pro at the range the suppressor isn’t necessary except to get used to the weight/balance of it on your rifle.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a training upper for that reason. I never shoot unsuppressed ever. It’s just gay. I don’t care about degradation of parts either, because I see guns as consumables or tools, that degrade with use.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > I don’t shoot unsurpessed
      Says a guy who bought some random expensive but shitty suppressor for his ar 15s and shitty pistol perhaps. Suppressor is a tool for a certain type of gun.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Suppressor is a tool for a certain type of gun.
        nta but no, a suppressor is a universal gun safety device. The only reason to ever not have one on the end of a gun is practical bullshit due to evil regulation in America. And I'm not going to shit on anyone for that, lack of cheapshit basic decent cans for $100 over the counter fricking sucks. But it's still moronic to see dumb fricks like you turn that into some cope of "oh they're not actually useful they're just for specific things".

        I will note that with wait times absolutely plummeting down to single digit days for most people the single worst part is gone, and the fixed stamp effectively gets cheaper every year. Hopefully this is on the path to eventually deregulating them entirely, but it's getting better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t want a can on my shotgun for shooting skeet. Maybe it would be kind of cool at first. I also don’t want a suppressor on my pistol. Don’t fit in my pants. Why would you consider a rifle to be unrefined and not safe without a suppressor? You’re a frickin homosexual and that’s alright. I like suppressors.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wipe suppressors for pistols (which are the ones you should carry, if not train with) are like 4" long.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would you consider a rifle to be unrefined and not safe without a suppressor?
            Because the human skull can only block a maximum of around 40dB in the 2 kHz range which is also peak of gun noise, so that's the absolutely theoretical upper limit for earpro. Doesn't matter if you double or triple up, your skull becomes the limiting factor, and in practice low 30s is the reasonable highest. Since plenty of guns are 160-175dB earpro is fine for hunting and such if you're middle of nowhere and have no dogs, but if you're doing significant practice, particularly near hard surfaces not in an open field, it's too much noise imo based on NIOSH guidelines.

            Suppressors also mean I can shoot a lot on my own land while being more polite to my neighbors. And I don't see why I should suffer at all from a successful defense in the unlikely event it was ever needed. Obviously this is all subjective, but I blame the government for there not being better options.
            >I also don’t want a suppressor on my pistol. Don’t fit in my pants
            An aurora II is 3.3" long and there are non-wipe ones that are still <4.5". On a compact pistol that shouldn't be make or break honestly. Integral could do much better in length, my maxim only adds 3-4" to a similar full size HG length, lack of that is again government bullshit fault.
            >You’re a frickin homosexual and that’s alright. I like suppressors.
            Eh, your call man. Like I said I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with the bullshit around them, but I don't think they should be downplayed. I think the gun community should be much, much angrier about the NFA then it has been historically. But just my opinion, you're alright too.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No way I’m reading all that. You’re a dork my man. Suppress all your little guns while us big brainers will enjoy loud booms and cool fireballs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                WHAT

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Unfathomably based. All firearms that can be suppressed should be, and someone should start making nagant actions revolvers again so the revolvergays can get in on the action too.

              Suppressor design is only now having a revitalization, and its one of the few really innovative fields of firearms development, with things like flow through, 3d printing, new designs of integral suppressors, etc.

              I really wish there were more integrally suppressed pistols on the market, an integrally suppressed, double stack DA/SA pistol in .32 ACP with a fixed optic mount would be my dream carry gun. Shotgun suppressors are also massively slept on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I really wish there were more integrally suppressed pistols on the market
                The NFA really has discouraged it. Not just cost but time, when it took 8+ months to get something, plus a bunch of manual form filling, getting ink prints, going to somewhere for passport photos, etc every single time that sucked and it makes total sense why the market would migrate towards "have the PITA bit be modular" so that you can bring it with you from gun to gun.

                I'm not sure the recent improvements go all the way towards fixing that, in particular there is still the issue of if you want to sell. Not everyone sticks with a gun for life, people may want to sell existing HGs. I don't think individual -> FFL let alone individual -> individual is fast and electronic. We really, really should still want suppressors to be removed from the NFA entirely.

                However still, even if only for new stuff going from months/year+ to days is a big fricking deal. So maybe that will revive the willingness to get more specialty items including integral options and expand the market. It'll take awhile to see the impact on the product pipeline but I'm mildly hopeful.

                I wasn't really disagreeing with you. I wear earpro when I'm at the range even if I'm shooting suppressed. The only time I don't is when I am on private land shooting a suppressed .22, which is hearing safe.
                Also, all of the public ranges in my local area always have other people there. You sound pretty lucky to have ranges that are relatively quiet.

                >You sound pretty lucky to have ranges that are relatively quiet.
                I mean, yeah that's fair. Not just range but I live rural and own 90acres and can shoot a ton on my own land, or friends in the same position. It's not free, I pay in both of course having bought it but also lower income then I might make elsewhere, but I definitely am lucky and try to keep in mind others who aren't. So really trying not to be judgemental prick, we all have to make do with our circumstances, I've had times stuck in a city area myself. I guess just don't ever entirely forget to keep doing the math is all. May suppressor regulation crash and burn away forever for all of us someday.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can replace gun parts. You can't replace your hearing. (Well at least not yet)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      WHAT?! PENIS IN THE CLEARING?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >be me
      >2052
      >bumping the hardest urban atmospheric songs whenever I walk around NYC at night
      >because my hearing is augmented

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The idea of "preserving the guns internals" makes little sense as most guns last for tens of thousands of rounds. The cost of the gun is nearly nothing compared to the cost of the ammo, and that's assuming I'd ever shoot one single gun that much in my lifetime.
    Meanwhile hearing is a big fricking deal. So is the benefit of being able to shoot whenver I want without being an butthole to my neighbors.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >nocanz thread

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why have that massive snagomatic charging handle on a rifle using a microdot mounted far forward of the charging handle?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If your gun is properly gassed for a suppressor I see little reason why it would accelerate wear. At really high firing schedules I suppose a suppressor could prevent heat from radiating away from the gun as efficiently maybe, but I doubt that's really a measurable effect. Now, if the gun is overgassed then yeah it'll reduce mtbf of parts

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It reduces violence to the user in terms of concussive blast and noise.
    It helps protect hearing. Even with ear pro, firearms can slowly damage hearing.
    It reduces noise pollution out into the world.
    Suppressors also change the sight in, you can't just pop them on and off while preserving the harmonics and POI of the firearm.
    "train how you fight".
    If you're shooting thousands of rounds through a suppressor, buy another suppressor.

    By the way, anyone who takes a giant sideways blasting compensator to the range is a inconsiderate and selfish douchebag.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >anyone who takes a giant sideways blasting compensator to the range is a inconsiderate and selfish douchebag.
      i take .30 cals with brakes when i rarely go to public ranges, i honestly could not care less about the homos who are shooting their gayar15 monstrosities and the other people who rent just for a range day or w/e, nothing they do at the range matters, so their feelings are all moot to me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I only shoot suppressed when I have a can for that gun. Unfortunately, I like revolvers so I still gotta bring earpro when shooting in the woods.

      >By the way, anyone who takes a giant sideways blasting compensator to the range is a inconsiderate and selfish douchebag.
      This

      >anyone who takes a giant sideways blasting compensator to the range is a inconsiderate and selfish douchebag.
      i take .30 cals with brakes when i rarely go to public ranges, i honestly could not care less about the homos who are shooting their gayar15 monstrosities and the other people who rent just for a range day or w/e, nothing they do at the range matters, so their feelings are all moot to me

      Black person

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >9966
        Can't even get pussy with your digits you ass to ass lookin queer

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can replace every part of your gun for less than the lifetime cost of hearing aids and ENT visits. Machines are supposed to be sacrificed for the flesh.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I fr*cking hate that suppressors, which should be mandatory, are totally illegal in Illinois. I doubt the chocolateers are worried about getting a Silent Assassin rating.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The censoring of things that aren't even worth censoring is my least favorite form of zoomer homosexualry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jump the border to IA/WI/IN/MO if you can.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >mfw I've never even heard nor seen of a kringle before this meme and I was born, raised, and live in WI

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Me neither, from the bluffs out west near the Mississippi river, maybe it's just a Milwaukee thing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Me neither, from the bluffs out west near the Mississippi river, maybe it's just a Milwaukee thing?

          Racine

          >If you’re wearing ear pro at the range the suppressor isn’t necessary except to get used to the weight/balance of it on your rifle.
          Earpro isn't "necessary" either then.

          If you have a private range, sure. Most of us have to share with other morons who don't have suppressors.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >If you have a private range, sure.
            Uh, no. If you think earpro is ever not necessary with a gun then you simply don't give a shit about damaging/losing your hearing and/or risking the EEEEEEEeeee. Which is absolutely, 100% your choice and freedom, unironically. This isn't a situation that impacts others. But understand a lot of the rest of us will make a different choice there.
            >Most of us have to share with other morons who don't have suppressors.
            1. Sound energy falls off with the square of distance, and the power impact on ears is cumulative. You're still doing yourself good by reducing the energy reaching your ears from the muzzle that is closest to them: yours. This goes extra if there is any kind of booth, since now your own noise is being more reflected at you and others is getting reduced.

            2. Even those without their own land/public land usually have some choice in ranges and times to reduce period when it's at max, and thus at least create more space. Hopefully "suppressors only" days will get more common as cans get more common. Lobby for it and be part of the change you want to see.

            I want to call going to a packed range or one with morons firing short barrel 30cal+ with some extra noisy brake a choice but I recognize economics and practicalities can impact that. Still, hearing is pretty valuable so I hope you're at least making a conscious, calculated choice not just kinda rolling with being young is all.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I wasn't really disagreeing with you. I wear earpro when I'm at the range even if I'm shooting suppressed. The only time I don't is when I am on private land shooting a suppressed .22, which is hearing safe.
              Also, all of the public ranges in my local area always have other people there. You sound pretty lucky to have ranges that are relatively quiet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is there one of these for New Hampshire?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I shoot supressed 100% of the time because it's fricking awesome

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what is an adjustable gas block?

    • 1 month ago
      Yukari

      there are "people" in this "community" so lacking in brain power that they would rather pick some weird suppressor design or not use one at all because AGBs are some sort of black magic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >these buttholes don't want to introduce another point of failure can you believe that

        what 'weird suppressor design' are you even referring to?

        • 1 month ago
          Yukari

          >point of failure
          point and laugh, kids

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            At who? The nobody tripgay? Show me a duty rifle that uses an adjustable gas block or bcg. The best laid plan is having a build that is a dedicated host and set up around use with a can.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >The best laid plan is having a build that is a dedicated host and set up around use with a can.
              oh cool, what suppressor do you have and what permeant setup do you use?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                sad bro turned his trip off when confronted with reality

                show me an AR service rifle with an adjustable gas block and I'll show you my setup

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no, I'm someone else who like ribbing brainlets.
                so what cans do you have?.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/ZiG6DRp.jpg

                [...]
                wrong guy dumbass

                Great with two of you it should be even easier then

                Show me an AR patterned service rifle that uses an adjustable gas block or a bootleg

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                show me a service rifle that sometimes has a suppressor and sometimes doesn't.
                but really, though, why would you use a military weapon as a litmus test for how YOU should do something? you know that you aren't a soldier, right?
                or do you think you are a soldier?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even worse - I was one and now I'm a cop. I keep a rifle in my car every day. You might be alright with one because you'll never have to use your gun outside of a gay larp.
                show me a service rifle that sometimes has a suppressor and sometimes doesn't.

                That was literally inherent to my first comment reiterated that most people in these roles just deal with it or they have a dedicate suppressor host.

                I never mentioned AR style service rifles with AGB.
                Service rifles are not the peak AR, they are very reliable and earn their gov't contract for that reason among others, but they are not the most highly ranked for ergonomics.

                Show me an AR profile that is used in ANY serious capacity that has an adjustable AGB/BCG. You won't find it.

                Still waiting on an example you absolute Black folk.

              • 1 month ago
                Yukari

                my last post was

                https://i.imgur.com/ic9tAKX.jpg

                >point of failure
                point and laugh, kids

                I argued that a can wasn't a point of failure, not that duty rifles used AGBs. I am not a part of your argument.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And I have made it clear that the "point of failure" being referenced since the onset of this gay conversation is the AGB.

                You're a dogshit tripgay and you should take your own life.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >outside of a gay larp
                which is all you have yours for.
                >now I'm a cop
                careful, your gun may magically try to kill you. I heard sigs have a thing against pigs, which is ironic.
                I don't want a military gun or one for pigs, I have a prefrontal cortex, something that was removed from you, probably at age 18, so I can make my own decisions.
                just appeal to authority since you know nothing about guns, their mechanical design or why guns win military contracts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I couldn't even make it through this response it was so Black personish and gay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                dude stop lmao

                I love when pigs and pogs pretend to be gun experts. they fricking hate being called out for what they are.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i'm not an expert but i'm not mad at the internet either. bro it's a gay indian kipup forum relax.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/wfPxxw3.jpg

                check out this crybaby homosexual

                >I'm from the military, I know guns.
                have you ever made a gun decision of your own?
                the fact is you are noguns in spirit. you don't know anything about guns, you get given a gun and say
                >yes sir!
                that's why we deride your opinions.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you know that you aren't a soldier, right? or do you think you are a soldier?

                you asked and I told. Show me a gun that is used in a serious capacity - one wherein your life could potentially depend on it, that utilizes an adjustable BCG or gas block. You can't do it so now you're obfuscating like a weird pissbaby

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Should reiterate, an AR patterned rifle*

                Guns that have them inherent to their design are obviously excluded. Lets see your big brain command those fat hands of yours to find something homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are the one that made up that criteria. Your criteria are irrational because you don't have a meaningful understanding of firearms.
                saying
                >if you can't show me a purple cow I win
                is irrational, just like your obsession with issued firearms. you have no capacity to make decisions for yourself, which is why you are the way you are (a walking appeal to authority) instead of making a reasoned decision yourself.
                My AR with an adjustable gas block works flawlessly, as do my non-adjustable.
                so what's your favorite can? what have you spent your own money on(not someone else's money)?
                if I want my gun to cycle supersonic and subsonics with and without a can I can just adjust as needed to not be overpassed, though in my experience the problem is less than people tend to describe it as.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A rifle largely utilized in the capacity I am describing has reliability as a prerequisite. Such prerequisite is not a requirement of a range toy. Show me an AR that meets this criteria while utilizing the aforementioned devices and I’d love to show you my can collection. Until then you’re a coping homosexual who can’t accept being wrong

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >"we"
                I went from laughing at you to feeling sorry for you real quick. People here ain't your friends, pumpkin.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                check out this crybaby homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                dude stop lmao

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he literally can't - I insulted his gay purchase and now he's going to b***h until he gets too tired to respond anymore.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Now that’s what I call moronic homosexual 5000

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the irony is dude whining about gun literacy amongst people that utilize them for a living while simultaneously defending his purchase like a reddit-tier consoooooomer subject matter expert. If this homosexual wasn't collecting shitty guns he would be collecting funko pops and mechanical keyboards.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you should have a nice day

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you first Black person

                make sure you adjust gas first

              • 1 month ago
                Yukari

                I never mentioned AR style service rifles with AGB.
                Service rifles are not the peak AR, they are very reliable and earn their gov't contract for that reason among others, but they are not the most highly ranked for ergonomics.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                India uses the sig 516, it has an adjustable gas block. The beretta ARX has one too. Or does it have to specifically be a DI AR?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Specifically DI AR.

                Any example where it's inherent to the design of course gets a pass but these homosexuals can't accept that they're bottlenecking their bench gun in a way that nobody that actually has to depend on reliability actually would on a design that it wasn't meant for.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >flexing an AB
                Anon pls.

              • 1 month ago
                Yukari

                >The best laid plan is having a build that is a dedicated host and set up around use with a can.
                oh cool, what suppressor do you have and what permeant setup do you use?

                wrong guy dumbass

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >duty rifle that uses an adjustable gas block
              Ever hear of a FAL, noguns?
              Ever hear of a Minimi, noguns?
              Ever hear of an HK433/H416, noguns?
              Ever hear of a QBZ191, noguns?
              Ever hear of an LMT AR, noguns?

              All of those are used by special forces, standard infantry, or both for different militaries, and those are just off the top of my head.
              What a dipshit moronic fricking post.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Read the thread you fricking spastic

                [...]
                Great with two of you it should be even easier then

                Show me an AR patterned service rifle that uses an adjustable gas block or a bootleg

                Even worse - I was one and now I'm a cop. I keep a rifle in my car every day. You might be alright with one because you'll never have to use your gun outside of a gay larp.
                show me a service rifle that sometimes has a suppressor and sometimes doesn't.

                That was literally inherent to my first comment reiterated that most people in these roles just deal with it or they have a dedicate suppressor host.

                [...]
                Show me an AR profile that is used in ANY serious capacity that has an adjustable AGB/BCG. You won't find it.

                Still waiting on an example you absolute Black folk.

                Specifically DI AR.

                Any example where it's inherent to the design of course gets a pass but these homosexuals can't accept that they're bottlenecking their bench gun in a way that nobody that actually has to depend on reliability actually would on a design that it wasn't meant for.

                Should reiterate, an AR patterned rifle*

                Guns that have them inherent to their design are obviously excluded. Lets see your big brain command those fat hands of yours to find something homosexual

                At every point in this thread I specified an AR. It was not inherent to the design as it is in every gun your HRT-addled brain managed to recall.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >some sort of black magic
        they are like, 70 bucks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >that they would rather pick some weird suppressor design
        you absolute fricking tripgay fudd moron
        for someone buying a new can there is absolutely zero reason not to buy a modern one. there is no such thing as "weird" cans they work and have the objective measurements to prove it or they don't. low back pressure designs work.

        my main semiauto rifle has a 6pos gas block and I have zero problems with that nor have had any issue chewing through thousands of rounds. but i got flow design anyway cuz it means less gas face even if the gun cycled fine on a high bp can

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even have a can and I know that the maintenance is barely enough to care about. You'll just need to clean it more, ensure that the can is good, and still wear earpro for some hotter rounds. Outside of baffle strikes, boosters for pistols, and the extended length/front weight some suppressors give they're negligible to actually shooting.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're buying suppressors you should be comfortable with spending a lot of money, which includes accelerated ware and replacing them more often.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It makes ur bullets and gun really dirty

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, once u go hascans u never go back. Just maintain your rifle and replace parts as needed.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Does it make sense to not shoot suppressed 100% of the time for the sake of preserving the life of your guns internals (reducing parts wear) or lifespan of the suppressor itself?
    No. They're fine for tens of thousands of rounds if you obey temperature specs, and if you can't tune your gas system just use a lower bp can. They have no effect on barrel life.
    >If you’re wearing ear pro at the range the suppressor isn’t necessary except to get used to the weight/balance of it on your rifle.
    Wrong with most guns. Suppressors make a huge difference and you should generally be wearing earpro as well if you're shooting a ton like when practicing.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just wouldn't shoot at all tbh. It puts wear on your gun and that will reduce resale value.
    Just leave it in the safe at all times and make sure you vacuum seal it and use desiccant packets.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everybody in this thread is moronic. The PrepHole posting cop and the adjustable no friends guy. New sig guns have adjustable gas blocks

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If you’re wearing ear pro at the range the suppressor isn’t necessary except to get used to the weight/balance of it on your rifle.
    Earpro isn't "necessary" either then.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My can only cost about as much as 200-300 rounds of ammo does here, and on a short recoil action the extra mass will probably slow things down a bit and extend part life

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