No, it really doesn't.
That said I find it funny that the chinks are fielding bad knock-offs of leupold scopes that have been discontinued for a decade, and FAST knockoffs
very implessive
Yes it really does if your chasing accuracy at a variety of ranges inside of 100 yards.
Your point of impact will shift by inches and you'll require a lot of weapin specific training to properly compensate. Depending on the round you could also be shooting very high at distances beyond your zero.
At the absolute minimum it changes the best sighting in distance. It matters.
Admittedly, it's going to matter most to people in SWAT and certain SF roles or where hostage rescue isn't entirely unrealistic. It would matter less to basic infantry but it still matters.
Height over bore primarily matters when firing over, and around barricades. Just because you're looking through your sights and have a clear line to the target doesn't mean the barrel necessarily has a clear line to the target. Many VTAC barricades, and truck hoods have fallen victim to the height over bore.
It's not a question of aiming, with that rifle turned sideways he won't hit anything past about 25m. If he had an M14 he could hit out to about 100m shooting sideways, but modern rifles really depend on that rifle staying perfectly vertical.
>If he had an M14 he could hit out to about 100m shooting sideways, but modern rifles really depend on that rifle staying perfectly vertical.
How so? This should be good.
Lmfao. Wtf are you talking about? The bullet just stops moving at 25m?
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Gun sideways, arc is sideways, moving horizontally from your target. Good luck hitting shit with that.
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>rotating the gun rotates gravity too
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bud, you know how you have the intercept between your point of aim with your scope and your rifle barrel that's now tilted slightly up to allow you to hit on your point of aim? you know how if your target is closer you'll hit lower than your point of aim and if it's further out to a certain distance you'll hit higher? Take that same bullet arc and turn it sideways. gravity will still be affecting it in a downward motion, but your point of aim/point of impact arc is now on its side, so if you aim at a target closer than your zero, you'll be hitting to the side AND low, and if it's slightly past your zero, you'll be hitting high AND to the side.
...... I think?
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i get what you're trying to say but your wording was confusing. you can't turn the "bullet arc" (bullet trajectory that follows an arc) sideways since gravity hasn't changed, it's still going to be the same trajectory. anyways i was just pointing that out.
A rifle intentionally shoots at an upward angle to offset the effects of gravity. The scope on said rifle is, above bore. The trajectory of the bullet at your 0 meets the straight line path of your line of sight using an optic or open sights.
Often these two paths in a military rifle with let's say a 300 meter zero will meet twice. Once at say 25 meters. And again at 300 meters.
Turning the rifle sideways introduces a third angle into the dilemma.
The rifle was technically pointed "up" in relation to the optic. The optic is say 2" above the bore in a straight line of sight at the target.
The bullet is still dropping down, but being fired at an angle to the left(righty) and will never be above the line of sight as both the optic and bore are at the same level. On the same plain.
If my drunken midday math is correct you would be shooting 3" low at 100 and it would get very bad from there. You would also be shooting slightly to the right up close, then drift off to the left pretty rapidly at some point.
That said, don't be gay. Don't shoot sideways. Don't hold your rifle by the side with a thumb over the top and ffs stop pointing pistols with your thumbs. It's all bullshit and it's bad for you.
Height over bore primarily matters when firing over, and around barricades. Just because you're looking through your sights and have a clear line to the target doesn't mean the barrel necessarily has a clear line to the target. Many VTAC barricades, and truck hoods have fallen victim to the height over bore.
I'd say a greater HOB is actually preferable for extreme long range. Look at the weird bullshit ELR shooters use to get over their barrel when they need a 30° arc to hit shit 2 miles away.
form what i have seen its the opposite it kinda looks like the early 2000s us military camo fashion, where everybody wants to have their own special camo, thus marpat ucp abu and nwu came into use, but chinks have literally at least 15 camos some worn by one or two units
It matters but not always as much as people make it out to. Lower 1-1/3 to 1.54 is comfy and practical for me. I can see why some people would like unity risers on 5.56 guns with lower recoil to keep a heads up position. I don’t know enough about long range shooting to comment on that side of things. Just like with most things it comes down to training, the situation, and preference. I saw a lot of HOB strikes in the footage of current conflicts with even just eotechs so I think for those with less training it could be a disadvantage
I don't think anyone is talking about 1/3 lower vs absolute. That's a little pedantic. It's more a difference between those and say something like a p90 with an Eotech on it.
what wrong /w his eyes??
No, it really doesn't.
That said I find it funny that the chinks are fielding bad knock-offs of leupold scopes that have been discontinued for a decade, and FAST knockoffs
very implessive
Yes it really does if your chasing accuracy at a variety of ranges inside of 100 yards.
Your point of impact will shift by inches and you'll require a lot of weapin specific training to properly compensate. Depending on the round you could also be shooting very high at distances beyond your zero.
At the absolute minimum it changes the best sighting in distance. It matters.
Admittedly, it's going to matter most to people in SWAT and certain SF roles or where hostage rescue isn't entirely unrealistic. It would matter less to basic infantry but it still matters.
Oh and
This too
No but it made the gun shoot significantly flatter at longer ranges so Yea
Perfect for shooting motherfuckers in the dick at 400m
Yes.
Sometimes.
Hats off to the sniper
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CARLOS
Reddit hasn't found out about offset shooting yet
cant he just turn it sideway like a hoodrat?
Sure. He's missing anyway, so why not look cool while missing 10x more?
You can aim a gun sideways if you are also lying sideways.
It's not a question of aiming, with that rifle turned sideways he won't hit anything past about 25m. If he had an M14 he could hit out to about 100m shooting sideways, but modern rifles really depend on that rifle staying perfectly vertical.
>If he had an M14 he could hit out to about 100m shooting sideways, but modern rifles really depend on that rifle staying perfectly vertical.
How so? This should be good.
Another good point, the farther away the sight from bore, the bigger the error from a canted hold.
Lmfao. Wtf are you talking about? The bullet just stops moving at 25m?
Gun sideways, arc is sideways, moving horizontally from your target. Good luck hitting shit with that.
>rotating the gun rotates gravity too
bud, you know how you have the intercept between your point of aim with your scope and your rifle barrel that's now tilted slightly up to allow you to hit on your point of aim? you know how if your target is closer you'll hit lower than your point of aim and if it's further out to a certain distance you'll hit higher? Take that same bullet arc and turn it sideways. gravity will still be affecting it in a downward motion, but your point of aim/point of impact arc is now on its side, so if you aim at a target closer than your zero, you'll be hitting to the side AND low, and if it's slightly past your zero, you'll be hitting high AND to the side.
...... I think?
i get what you're trying to say but your wording was confusing. you can't turn the "bullet arc" (bullet trajectory that follows an arc) sideways since gravity hasn't changed, it's still going to be the same trajectory. anyways i was just pointing that out.
A rifle intentionally shoots at an upward angle to offset the effects of gravity. The scope on said rifle is, above bore. The trajectory of the bullet at your 0 meets the straight line path of your line of sight using an optic or open sights.
Often these two paths in a military rifle with let's say a 300 meter zero will meet twice. Once at say 25 meters. And again at 300 meters.
Turning the rifle sideways introduces a third angle into the dilemma.
The rifle was technically pointed "up" in relation to the optic. The optic is say 2" above the bore in a straight line of sight at the target.
The bullet is still dropping down, but being fired at an angle to the left(righty) and will never be above the line of sight as both the optic and bore are at the same level. On the same plain.
If my drunken midday math is correct you would be shooting 3" low at 100 and it would get very bad from there. You would also be shooting slightly to the right up close, then drift off to the left pretty rapidly at some point.
That said, don't be gay. Don't shoot sideways. Don't hold your rifle by the side with a thumb over the top and ffs stop pointing pistols with your thumbs. It's all bullshit and it's bad for you.
(Calculation for m4, 5.56) rough
might be a dumb question, but why isn't he just tilting the rifle sideways?
Height over bore primarily matters when firing over, and around barricades. Just because you're looking through your sights and have a clear line to the target doesn't mean the barrel necessarily has a clear line to the target. Many VTAC barricades, and truck hoods have fallen victim to the height over bore.
I'd say a greater HOB is actually preferable for extreme long range. Look at the weird bullshit ELR shooters use to get over their barrel when they need a 30° arc to hit shit 2 miles away.
you are like little baby
I kneel. I can only vaguely understand a bunch of those gizmos.
>multicam with tibettarn colors
Sex
why do chink have 30 changcam variants in use
I don't know it's like the Russian military completely disorganized
form what i have seen its the opposite it kinda looks like the early 2000s us military camo fashion, where everybody wants to have their own special camo, thus marpat ucp abu and nwu came into use, but chinks have literally at least 15 camos some worn by one or two units
It's really good for raising the scope over the fursuit.
How do you know?
ynoeah
It matters but not always as much as people make it out to. Lower 1-1/3 to 1.54 is comfy and practical for me. I can see why some people would like unity risers on 5.56 guns with lower recoil to keep a heads up position. I don’t know enough about long range shooting to comment on that side of things. Just like with most things it comes down to training, the situation, and preference. I saw a lot of HOB strikes in the footage of current conflicts with even just eotechs so I think for those with less training it could be a disadvantage
I don't think anyone is talking about 1/3 lower vs absolute. That's a little pedantic. It's more a difference between those and say something like a p90 with an Eotech on it.
Why didn't he get an XPS model if he cared about height over bore? 1.54 (absolute) instead of 1.69 (1/3)
So long as you aren't trying to shoot a guy in the dick it doesn't matter.
Only at short ranges. At longer ranges it ends up mixed in with the bullet drop.
The higher you lift your head, the easier you are to shoot at