L85s for the King's crowning seems very low class. Where are the perfectly preserved 1853 Enfield's ? the SLRs ?
What are /k/'s thoughts on this ?
L85s for the King's crowning seems very low class. Where are the perfectly preserved 1853 Enfield's ? the SLRs ?
What are /k/'s thoughts on this ?
SMLEs would be kino
Seconded.
I agree whole heartedly. Also I know the helmets are ceremonial and I respect that much, but they really do look like shit. Wear a brodie helmet, they have sovl.
On a side note the household calvary is a great example of “so old it looks silly but it horseshoes into looking cool”
>helmet
now that I think about it that’s the wrong phrase. What is this? A cap? Either way it looks goofy as hell
Guns are for shooting.
No. They're for looking cool and having fun, anything else is cope
Shooting subhumans is fun and looks cool
>Shooting your guns instead of posting them on /k/
NGMI Fren
These losers are never going to actually fire their guns
And if they needed to be combat ready they wouldn't have those stupid hats that prevent them from taking cover and probably are incredibly annoying
Oh and it's the l85, clearly shooting isn't a reason they are carrying them 🙂
I dig how you speak with such confidence about something you clearly know nothing about.
>plume on the right, red color
The guys in OP's pics are the Coldstream Guards
>excluding battle honors going back to 1680, excluding Malaya, Kenya, Aden, Cyprus, Northern Ireland and excluding GW1 they deployed as follows:
>Afghanistan 2007-10, Iraq 2003-09.
Clown.
moron. This takes 1 google search.
??? What the frick are you talking about?
The 5 battalions of the guards have fired their rifles in action from Waterloo to Iraq and Afghanistan, since you need it spelled out to you, you mong.
Yes, which is exactly what I said in the post you initially replied to. You fricking spastic.
He's saying they're not gonna be fighting in full dress in London they don't even carry ammunition, there's an armed royal protection unit of the police that handle proper security.
The weapons are loaded but not made ready.
The police are there because the army has no jurisdiction for dealing with any criminals - They're entitled to use deadly force to protect the monarch if necessary, but they can't arrest anyone - and the police act as another line of defence to prevent Johnny foreigner from getting trampled again, like in those video's we all know.
>The weapons are loaded
they're not and if you ever ask a guard they'll tell you that they were told they were told they might be under certain circumstances
They absolutely are.
t. never served
t. never had guards go on about standing guard to you
Why do you autists hate the idea that they don't typically carry rounds, it's like the idea that the police are the main security offends you and they absolutely are because they handle the close protection detail and response unit.
>they'll tell you that they were told they were told they might be under certain circumstances
>the army has no jurisdiction for dealing with any criminals
lol you are a fricking idiot
>They can't arrest anyone
Everyone can make an arrest and hand them over to police or cuff them until police arrive if they got caught in the act commiting a crime
>5 regiments
Irish and Welsh Guards weren't founded until 1900 and 1915 respectively.
Seconded.
Replied to the wrong post
They use issued weapons. Bongs aren't issuing Enfields anymore, even in reserve units.
homie, Coldstream Guards get deployed in most active warzones for the UK. Hell, I don't even know if they get deployed in the random policing shit the UK does for the Commonwealth that always gets overlooked.
If they wanted the guards to be practical them why dress them up like that?
If you are going to be ceremonial and traditional don't half ass it.
Yeah, why don't the gendarmerie dress in combat fatigues with full tacticool rigging and helmets?
Why did you build the sa80 then?
Because it is power projection, and quite needless power projection at that. These Royal Guard have the mentality of the Marine Corp, "we're the best of the best on a sacred mission to protect the queen.. no, king, now get out of our way". So as a result they have tacticool rifles instead of something classy.
>we're the best of the best on a sacred mission to protect the queen.. no, king,
>be tommy coldstream
>It's four bong, time to change the guard
>marching to my post with a few other lads
>bloody tourists in the way, they aren't moving
>good.bmp
>MAKE WAY FOR THE QUEEN'S GUARD as you trample some foreigner
>Charles comes out with a rifle and personally offs you for insulting his honor
>they bury you in an unmarked grave next to the half of the English footie team that fricked the anthem up in Qatar
such is life in Ingerland
sounds kino
>tacticool rifles
>L85
lmao it's a bog standard generic rifle for common soldiers, they're not decked out in SCARs or something
What is the tacticool advantage of a marge Simpson hat and a lobster coat?
Third worlders are intimidated by ridiculous hairstyles.
Theyre a guards regiment, infantry. They normally look like this
Ceremonial guns are autistic. They have a dress uniform, they don't need a dress gun and neither do any other regiments. Those uniforms reflect over 200 years of consistent history, picking one rifle to use just because it's "old" when they've always had their service rifles would be moronic. Would you look at a picture of one from the 20s and demand he carries a brown bess.
I hope you feel the same way about the ceremonial Sword then too Anon
If swords were still issued as weapons of war and they picked a random old sword instead of a modern sword I would.
It's a ceremony autist it's like saying why wear a suit to a event when you could wear the latest supreme jacket
>they're wearing their modern dress uniform
>they're carrying their modern rifles
>Would you look at a picture of one from the 20s and demand he carries a brown bess.
Yes please.
In fairness to OP, they did have specific accessories for ceremonial SLRs. White slings, white bayonet frogs, chromed bayonets. Don't think the guns themselves were anything special though.
It's not that they wouldn't use a white sling for the SA80 they just don't use any slings for ceremony because it's a quick adjust and would look weird.
>They have a dress uniform, they do need a dress gun
fixed.
Literally everyone else has ceremonial guns.
Russians have SKS, Germans have K98s, Americans have M1 Garands, etc.
Having your ceremonial guards carry ugly bullpups is autistic as frick.
NOOOOO IT'S GOTTA BE WOOOD
Yes.
>your ceremonial guards
they're not ceremonial, you dip, as everyone else ITT has pointed out repeatedly.
They literally are you moron, they aren't even issued ammunition.
Every other ceremonial guard in the world is also comprised of active duty soldiers dumbass. You're not unique, just moronic with your homosexual bullpup.
If there's a threat, then they're loaded, simple as
>If there's a threat, then they're loaded, simple as
Lol no they aren’t you dipshit
>Lol no they aren’t you dipshit
shows how much you know doesn't it, ignoramus
Well if reddit said it, it must be true.
Well if PrepHole said it, it must be false.
it's dependent on the UK determined 'threat level'. If you go to any british armed forces base in the UK, near the gate you'll see a 'threat level' sign. Usually the label is black, reading 'Heightened'. There's four levels, the max being 'imminant'. Heightened is the third, I believe, the first is 'negligible', anything above and including 'heightened' involves anyone with a rifle on any form of guard in the UK to carry a minimum of 15 rounds.
it's been at heightened since the westminister attacks, so everyone's been carrying rounds in their weapon. Below 'heightened', ceremonial guards units don't carry rounds in the magazine but actual blokes on guard will have a magazine of live rounds on their persons somewhere
Do they also fight in their ridiculously tall and ridiculously fuzzy hats? Or are they hiding steel pots under there?
>they aren't even issued ammunition.
They are, and they have a fully functioning command center, barracks and supply depot right there in Westminster, they are attached to the 11th infantry brigade and are part of the UKs domestic security apparatus
US uses M14 nowadays, no?
I'll tell you why we should have them. The manual of arms was built around guns that were a certain length and made of wood. Although it's been adapted, it's extremely difficult to perform certain manoeuvres with a polymer bullpup.
In particular when you slap your hand on the furniture when performing certain moves instead of a nice slap noise you get a dull thump. Drill sergeants though, STILL DEMAND YOU MAKE THAT FRICKING SLAP NOISE. Because it's in the fricking book. So recruits are even now beating their hands to shit on polymer furniture in a nearly futile attempt to make a noise that they will never be able to make.
Also the fricking magazine gets in the way.
Every part of the British military does guard duty around London at some point. Even foreign units from the Commonwealth do it sometimes
They're expected to do the same drills so it only makes sense to do it with a service rifle, not have some gaudy fricking chrome wall ornament
That's not quite true. The Guards take the lead for the ceremonial stuff, but as they are genuine infantry battalions sometimes they just aren't available to do the ceremonial stuff. At which point other units (or even the RN) have sometimes filled in for them
There is a rotation though ceremonial duties. Even the RAF have the Queens Colour Squadron for such duties. There are several Guard units though who all rotate though, so they are who you typically see, and they all look similar, so everyone thinks its the same unit. The unit in OP's pic are the Coldstream guards, not the Grenadier Guards for example.
Absolutely mogged
Do the Guards regiments have minimum height requirements?
No. It's just that sailors have maximum height requirements. So they can save money by making smaller boats. Blame the Tories for their cost-cutting
>oi ya cheeky wanka
>Do the Guards regiments have minimum height requirements?
well, they signed all those non-dscrimination inclusivity workplace statements and such, so all said and done, on the whole, yes they do
>sailors have maximum height requirements
Didn't know that, although it makes sense. Also sensible for tankies.
I don't think he's being serious
How do they se out of those hats
the same way people with a fringe do
Used to be 6'0
Because, despite the silly hats, the Kings Guard isn't purely ceremonial. They do actually provide security for the monarch and their residences, even when they're on display for tourists. So they carry the same rifle for all their duties.
Which is why I say they should have custom L85s that are engraved or otherwise visually distinct from a normal L85. If I were royalty I'd want my guards to be equipped with the best we can afford but also look as regal as their position. Perhaps a different finish or handguard material. Maybe special longer bayonets as that would both help them in crowd control and be distinct from a normal infantry rifle
>engraved
lmao I bet you think the tomb guard's M17 pistols look cool, don't you
No that's gaudy and tasteless. But that doesn't mean you can't make a tasteful yet subtle engraving on a service rifle. Something like "For King and Country" written along the barrel would be kind of neat. Then again it'd be neat if all British service weapons had that engraved on them like how the Japanese marked Arisakas with a Chrysanthemum to mark them as the emperor's property. God why do service rifles lack cool markings anymore? What happened to national crests?
unironically, israelites
>imagine if every single artillery piece and HIMARS launcher had VLTIMA RATIO REGVM engraved somewhere
rock hard now
>tomb guard's M17 pistols
I've never seen these before... the fricking holster to show it off lmao.
Do you have a pic of Simmerson when he's chillaxing on that sofa waiting for the dumb girl to blow him?
> DONTCHA WANNA KNOW HOW WE KEEP STARTING FIRES?
Underrated
>ITS MY DESIRE
>My DESIRE
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>tomb guard's M17 pistols
Ugggh, they couldn't have just given them M9s or M1911s?
You're aware that the M17 is the M17 because it has been adopted to replace the M9 in all branches of the military, right? They did have custom M9s before, but the Army adopted the M17 and the tomb guards got the new pistols like everyone else.
I'm aware of that. I think using older gear for ceremonial units is entirely appropriate particularly if the newer gear is garish polymer,
so when are they going to replace the M14s with M4s?
Fricking SIG, the wood gripped M9 is 1 million times more fitting that M17 abomonacion
It's annoys me because its so close to being decent. Flush fit magazine. Get rid of the cringey engraving on the sides and bottom (top one can stay), get rid of the mirror finish for a nice dark bluing.
There, fixed. Not amazing but fine.
>There are four pistols issued to the Tomb Guards. Named “Silence” and “Respect,” two are highly polished for daylight hours while “Dignity” and “Perseverance” are matte-black pistols for night duty and bouts of inclement weather.
There's a fine line separating awesome and edge. Americans take themselves too seriously. The British at least have a sense of humour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF#Heritage_and_traditions
I like that naming scheme, having the reserve plane named "Desperation" is extremely fitting one you've lost Faith, Hope, and Charity
>21 extended magazine because 21 gun salute and 21 steps
Claps take everything too far.
it looks pretty cool but I'd take it more for a drug dealer's sidearm than anything else. so probably not the vibe they're going for
>tomb guard's M17
that's straight up pornography
>If I were royalty I'd want my guards to be equipped with the best we can afford but also look as
this is how child-minded tinpot dictators think, because they are child-like and stupid, and overly emotional and lack self control.
You are the same as any African warlord that puts 50 fake medals on a fake uniform and demands everyone including civilians salute him.
It's why you people lose to civilized societies, and to your own savage brethren when they get sick of your shit.
all sizzle, no steak.
>wanting a ceremonial unit to look the part is apparently Black personish now
How about you stop being stupid and understand that ceremonial units can look distinguished from regular infantry. If they're allowed to wear the silly fur hat and red uniform I think we're far enough removed from practicality that its okay to make their rifles a bit more snazzy
This is your mind on a diet of love island and the kadarshians. Kys.
Do they have a real life or do they were the silly hats all the time
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY SHOULD HAVE LE WOODEN GUN LIKE M14
have a nice day homosexual amerimutt go back to jerking it to blacked.com
you have to have a foreskin to post in this thread
Kek
Most countries have ceremonial rifles
Russia, China, USA, ect.
>Most countries
>mentions three auth shitholes
And the land of "bin that knoife" and "TV loicense mate" isnt?
which countries aren't authoritarian shitholes?
Stop trying to push that dumb forced meme "hkwannabee" you oven dodger
Hk is overpriced but actually good quality, IWI stuff is garbage quality at israelite prices bought only by morons and "best allies" maga boomers
post guns yuropoor 🙂
>UGG boot
>ahegao sling
Anon, if you're going to insult euros, at least have something decent to do it with.
>wojak
scoff
Shiny ceremonial rifles are for tacky third worlders like thailand
Bullpups look aweful
I don't even think the israelites have Golden Tavors
Siam Niyom is the real Judaism
those gold tavors bussin fr fr
that looks dumb
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>40kposting in 2022
back to plebbit
Because they arent a ceremonial guard, they are regular force soldiers there protecting the King.
Amean they're a regular force but that's not their job when they're at royal residences besides in the very literal sense of telling people to back the frick of the railings. They don't get issued rounds and if you ever asked one they'll all say they've been told they might get them in super special circumstances that their mate Jim was in once. Closest you get to the guard regiments guarding the monarch is in the guard room. Police handle the day to day security.
Shiny ceremonial rifles are based and ingerland isn't cool enough for it
>thread for claps that want to see gay inspections and spinny shit
It makes sense, the UK has had so many different arms in use by their service that picking the latest one seems like the best option.
Historical dress and cutting-edge weapons is the best combination, but they should have weapons as good-quality as their attire. Where are the wood-stocked L85s with burnished barrels and tasteful engravings?
It's not even historical really it's just their full dress uniform.
Because the guards only spend 1/5th of their time doing ceremonial duties if their battalion is assigned to it. Familiarity with their main service rifle is an important factor in this as operational units. The queen’s designated pallbearers in the queen’s company 1st Grenadier Guards are in Iraq at the minute for example. God knows who actually ends up carrying her body.
>God knows who actually ends up carrying her body.
I've heard they Queen will be transorted by gun-carriage pulled by members of the Navy en-route to the chapel etc, whether they actually carry the coffin i'm unsure
It's not lowclass, it's meant to show that they're active duty soldiers and not just parade performers.
The 1853 Enfield was the cutting edge rifle of its time, and the SLR was the new cutting edge rifle of its time. Now the L85 represents the current era.
>L85
>cutting edge
>it's meant to show that they're active duty soldiers and not just parade performers.
then they should wear combat uniform, preferably with armor and all.
They don't wear combat fatigues for the same reason not all police are dressed like SWAT.
Though, I think if you combined the traditional guard uniform with some body armor, you could get something cool out of it.
>1853 Enfield was cutting Edge of its time
>Henry Rifle dropped just a few years later in .44 Henry (some would consider it a proper modern cartridge
Bongs are clearly more moronic than even i thought.
>What are /k/'s thoughts on this ?
Polymer is ill suited to ceremonial guns. I was slightly disappointed the honor guard used M4s at my grandfather's funereal, I'd hoped for M14s.
For the Brits it would be neat to see them dust off the Enfields for ceremonies.
I was on funeral detail for 18 months when I was active duty and it drove me nuts that we used our clapped out M16’s for funeral detail. I complained a lot about how it was unprofessional, but there was nothing I could do. Trust me anon, most of us feel your pain.
The problem isn't that they use the service rifle, as others have mentioned there are plenty of good reasons for that
The issue is that the rifle in question is a disgusting piece of shit
This is the queen's/king's guard and this is their service rifle. They are on actual guard duty. Ceremonial branches only larp so they can afford to run around with old rifles.
>Not Ceremonial Troops
>Wears Bear Skin Hat 3 feet high that adds another 20 F to body heat
What did they mean by this ?
Those hats actually had a purpose once.
What was that purpose?
Making you and your mates look tall and hard as frick when advancing to bayonet the enemy.
>hat so fricking big it can wear a sash across itself
yeah, they do look pretty fricking amazing ngl
Deflects downwards saber slashes from cavalry. Allegedly fools lancers into hitting the hat but I doubt. Makes you look BIG and SCARY.
specifically, for the Guards: dabbing on frogs because Waterloo
They're not ceremonial in the same way the Tomb Guards are. Palace Guards an active military unit that will rotate into combat zones directly after palace duties.
>Tomb Guards are
Old Guard are 100% a functional unit with a briefing and mission to carry out. Nobody's quite sure how far away the rest of the small arms and rocketry are from the Tomb but I'm betting on under 5 minutes, for example.
the 3rd is also a big part of the Washington command area and regularly deploys battalions overseas and to other parts of the US. Ceremonial and honor guards are one of their functions but they are actual soldiers.
If they don't get hit by a car first. Seriously, they all walk out of a side staff entrance that crosses a road with no pavement expecting vehicles to stop for them. Being hit by a car is the guards' leading cause of injury and death, which is fricking stupid for an active infantry unit.
We need to develop powered exoskeletons.
Not for any practical usage on the field, but so that the Royal Guard will have the strength to shove aside any moving vehicles attempting to impede their route the way they do pedestrians.
Those men do not carry ceremonial rifles because they are not ceremonial troops
While I do like the ol SMLE, actually I can't imagine a bigger flex than the Guard using L85s; it does drive home the sense that these guys aren't just ceremonial, they rotate on ops if necessary
see: 1982
I prefer the SLR, but as others have said It's more to do with them being an actual fighting regiment than toy soldiers with shiney things.
Not sure what they will do when the A2s are all gone though the A3 is a disgusting colour and would look stupid, they already cover the handgaurd to keep the rifle in a relative colour scheme.
Australia uses the SLR as its ceremonial rifle. Which seems weird. If you want trad, just go the SMLE. Or, if you want modern, go Austeyr. SLR just seems like a weird in-between.
When did the Aussies go to a black finish? My 1971 Lithgow is all grey and shit
Wooden SLR is Kino
The drill figures (shoulder, present, rest etc.) just don't work with the AUG, while they do with the SLR. New positions were too hard they are baked into a bunch of formalities just like in your picture - try doing that with an AUG.
These guys are constantly trying to be taken seriously. The actual war rifle almost negates the flamboyant uniform, I think it's a good clash.
They actually look decent with the leather shrouds, but for god's sake they should've put an all black furniture kit on it at least.
Yeah but imagine shit goes down inside and they have to use a long ass FAL indoors. They probably chose to switch.
>Yeah just put your rifle on the ground in like an organized way
Cmon, stack arms is a thing. Or can they not do it because their hats would bump into each other
They should stack hats first. Manual of hats.
There is no stack arms in the British drill manual. The movement they are doing in the webm is called ground arms and has been done since the 17th century.
Pic related is a Irish guardsman using his loaded rifle to man a police post after the London bridge attack.
We're obviously talking about guards in full dress on typical duty.
The whole guard detail isn’t on guard at once, the rest are still in normal working uniform.
Fair point.
I said somewhere up the thread there's some in the guardroom but that's it. They only send them out onto the streets in very very certain circumstances to bolster the police. The day to day armed guard duties of the royals is handled by the police.
Regardless she thread's not talking about people in the guardroom it's talking about the ones on sentry in full dress that don't carry ammunition.
I'm a muhreen n all so I have no room whatsoever to complain about doing stupid shit because it's tradition, but squatting down in dress uniform looks exactly as awkward as I thought
Are they fricking hip hip hooraying?
can you fricking lip read?
Because the Guard are actually guards for royalty.
They are equipped to shoot people.
>Equipped to shoot people
>English Gun laws
>Big Hairy Hats
Brown Bess would have done nicely for Birtish Subjects
They don't carry a single round with them, don't be silly
>the King's crowning seems very low class.
Charlie is a low life
Why Cantona brits just replace l85 with m4 already. Even the French swallowed their pride and are now using German guns
Hard to justify the cost because the L85 good enough as it is and they've been downsizing since operation Herrick ended (most of the MRAP fleet is gone, for example). Some people clearly want it though, ARs are starting to bleed out into SOF-adjacent units like the Marine commandos and the new Ranger regiment, and SFSG and MPs have been using it for a decade. Nobody is going to authorize a whole new force-wide procurement, but individual units are able to sell the idea provided they're specialize enough.
Sunk cost fallacy. We were supposed to bin the L85 in 2015 but it was extended because BAE were already working on the L85A3 and we can't disappoint le heckin defence comperinos.
A lot of squaddies want the Diemaco C8 because they get to play with it in Canada.
If we ever got into a serious war, we'd swap to M4/C8 format so fast it'd make your fricking head spin.
we wouldn't swap to shit, everyone will still utilize the SA80 until we started to lose the kit to whatever attrition, then we'd supply a UOR for off the shelf purchases whilst we get factories utilised to start developing parts
I mean at least it's not the original configuration, I hear they're decent enough now, not the pieces of junk they were with the A1
It's indeed the right way to do it, though I prefer pickelhaube to bear skin myself
Why do they have "cosies" over the sight and the foregrip?
Also (and this is *apparel*ly autistic): Why have a red sash over a red tunic, making it all but redundant/invisible?
If they had muskets, some muzzie or irishman would have blown up the Queen already
redcoats look silly.
Quit now, you're not allowed military tradition anymore.
At this point I believe bongs will make SA80 the ceremonial rifle that will last for thousands of years.
They are in complete denial about how bad it is.
I think it looks good. Offsets the ceremony with practicality and lethality. I also like that they use the L85 and dont cuck out and use a boring AR.
Should be 416s to go with the Mercedes hearse and the kid's Audi FML
It's tradition that the guards parade with their current service rifle. It just unfortunate that the L85 looks like ass
I personally think L85’s look cool, they just don’t work with ceremonial uniforms. British combat kit generally looks great though, same with the Aussies.
t. Burger
They're just supposed to be very fancy bodyguards, so they get the latest service weapon to reflect that IIRC.
They are a regular army unit which is why they use whatever rifle the rest of the army uses.
That too, kind of like how the Swiss Guard have modern Swiss Army service rifles too.
No, not like that. The Swiss Guard is a nonsense unit. The Guards Regiments are regular army units who get deployed with the rest of the Army.
The Swiss Guard is made up of Catholic unmarried Swiss males who have received training in the Armed forces of Switzerland. They are all former army, they use what the Swiss forces trained them with too if they need to. While not an official force of Switzerland they are an official Vatican force made up of Swiss Army veterans who use Swiss Army weapons on top of their ceremonial stuff.
I know who they are. They are a nonsense unit.
Nonsense unit then?
DISGUSTING
The ceremonial guards at Buckingham Palace are actually carrying live ammo in their rifles IIRC.
They do carry live ammo but not in their rifles, to almost completely rule out the risk of an ND.
If there's an immediate risk to the monarch they do carry live ammo in the rifle, but that's very rare.
I say either carry a rifle fitting for the uniform or find a more modern replacement. I don't understand the obsession with the uniform anyways. Reminds me of a time when the UK was getting shot to shit by Boers.
>when the UK was getting shot to shit by Boers
>Ambush a few garrison conscripts that are far and lazy from having nothing to do for years
>Hooray we won, Oranje and whatnot
>Actual army shows up
>Boer revolt is now over
The redcoats got shot to shit in both wars, regardless of unit.
Better than getting the family thrown into a concentration camp, then being absorbed into the empire anyway I guess
Calm your fragile ego, we're talking about the uniforms the UK wore while getting shot to shit during the Boer wars, not the warcrimes they committed afterwards.
Sorry man, I was just responding to your edge with abit of reality. Concentration camps happened during the Boer war, right after the Boers ran to the hills and played pre-taliban.
Uniforms look sweet, l1a1>l85. L129 would be a nice compromise.
Wasn't meant to be edgy, I was just pointing out that I've always associated those uniforms to a time period where the British empire was increasingly seeing loses and casualties on the battlefield.
Never said they looked bad either, and if it wasn't for the fact that they do have to carry a practical rifle, I'd say the Long Tom Enfield's would look good.
Honestly I think they should just carry the L119. I understand it's not a British rifle but it would look better than the L85.
Why do Americans have such an obsession with the Boers
We're familiar with British oppression. It's also one of the few cases in history of truly black and white.
>It's also one of the few cases in history of truly black and white.
You're a fricking idiot and you don't know our history. The Free State government was actively engaged in persecution of uitlanders, to the point of depriving them of their legally purchased property. I'm not saying the bongs were the good guys, but there's a lot more grey than you realise.
It baffles me that Americans speak so confidently about other people's history all the time when they know so little.
>It baffles me that Americans speak so confidently about other people's history all the time when they know so little.
That's nothing, have a read of the next IRA thread to see the most moronic posts spoken in such a way you would think they were their during the troubles.
>SLRs for the King's crowning seems very low class. Where are the perfectly preserved Baker Rifles ? Pattern 1853s ?
Those are operational weapons. They same issued weapons they use at the range or deployment, just with sights removed.
Its incredibly homosexual to have a ceremonial rifle. It means you're trying to hard. Im looking at you US army.
I like how you keep repeating this as if someone cares. They don’t have ammo, they would be more functional with a Sergeant’s Pike
England is full of cucks, no ceremonial rifles but plenty of panties for the boys.
They're real soldiers, so they carry real weapons. A lot of them have served combat tours. Its a post you volunteer for and rotate into for a time, its not a separate LARP unit like military bands.
The US keeps m14's around for ceremonial purposes. A lot of countries no longer use guns with any wood, but wood guns are kept around for exactly that reason, they look classy. England wanted to only use one gun, and I think that reason is because those dudes are the actual palace guards. There are other dudes dressed differently around, but for the most part if you frick around at the palace thise dudes will come out dressed like that and frick back. They want them to have their actual fighting rifle, not something they aren't trained on or that's seen as less practical. Given that they operate half indoors, a bullpup is handy. They should come up with a wood kit for it though or have polished ones. They already look like easy to spot gays, might as well give them shiny rifles with wood kits.
>I own a musket for home defense, since that's what good King George.
>Four Terrorists break into the palace. "What the devil?" As I grab my Bearskin hat and Brown Bess Musket.
>Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot.
>Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the Queen's Corgi.
>I have to resort to the Blomfield cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "HIP HIP, HOORAY" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms.
>Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.
>He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up.
>Just as King George intended.
Holy shit. This whole time I thought Monty Python was making that shit up
Since the UK is just a sad and sometimes ridiculous shadow of its former self the L85 is fitting. Just as pathetic as whats left from the former empire.
A country whose capital has about 65% inhabitants whose skin color is not the native one doesn't deserve better.
Pic related. The cradle of industrialization ddoesn't even have a locally built hearse but has to rely on a german car of all brands.
>65%
Those are US numbers you fricking moron, the UK is statistically still very white despite all the pictures you see on /misc/. Especially out of the population centers. And Scotland is more than 95% white, the only place whiter than Scotland in Europe is Poland
The US tomb guards only have like 4 guys on duty at a time so issuing old rifles and anime pistols to seem more traditional is relatively simple and cheap.
To do the same for the guards would mean doing that for an entire brigade.
Yes the crushing expense of maintaining five thousand rifles that they already have in storage somewhere is too much for the small and impoverished nation of Britainm
the point is that its a different level of public spending. 5,000 rifles is enough where you would actually have to justify that it was in any way a worthwhile expense beyond "General Whingus doesn't like how modern rifles look on parade"