Does anyone here shoot clays/birbs with a red dot?

Does anyone here shoot clays/birbs with a red dot?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this would literally kill a boomer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      which is funny since shitty eye sight boomers would benefit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I tried it, it was pretty shitty because field of view is so small it makes it hard to lead properly. It might work for trap but I hated it for skeet and sporting clays.

        Not really. Seeing the "sight" or even bead is unimportant. Seeing the target--and more importantly the area right in front of where the target is flying--is very important, and the red dot actually gets in the way of that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't the whole point that since you can use the red dot as a reference it makes gun fit and mount consistency less important? Something that wouldn't be a big deal for a regular clay shooter because they have fitted guns and practice, but would make it easier for a casual or hunter who might not have an expensive gun or is using a game gun and taking less good shots?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No. Dots exist for literally only 2 reasons: to help experts minmax their competition times, and help idiots feel like they know how to shoot without bothering to learn.
            They are absolutely meaningless for anything else and should be avoided

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you are a moron if you think iron sights are better than red dots. I've shot the same gun with open sights, peep sights and a red dot and the red dot had the best groups

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What is combat?

              You're moronic if you don't think a Red Dot or a prism sight doesn't result in you having a better chance at survival

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No matter how good you are with irons, a red dot makes you better, faster. This has been proven conclusively.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No moron, scientifically proven to be slower.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's an incredibly ignorant take, getting good on a red dot, when it comes to pistols since it sounds like you are talking about pistols, is incredibly different and this difficult it takes tons of practice to actually get good and be target focused.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Isn't the whole point that since you can use the red dot as a reference it makes gun fit and mount consistency less important?
            Using the sight as a reference takes time, and you don't really have that when you're shooting at fast-moving game or clays. You should be able to just point the gun where you want the shot to go, the same way that you can throw a ball to someone else without having to use sights and do math.

            Now if you're talking about situations where you don't have to shoot quickly, like turkey hunting, shooting squirrels in trees, shooting any sort of land game while it's standing still then optics can certainly help there. I have a LVPO on my slug gun and I love it. I don't shoot 3 gun but I imagine they'd be great for those kinds of matches.

            Speaking of fit, it's really important but these days it is often an afterthought. I say why not use technology to solve this problem? Let's say you want a shotgun fitted to you. You take some video of yourself with your phone, maybe doing some prescribed poses. Software analyzes the video and calculates the optimal stock dimensions for you. The data gets sent to a factory somewhere and then the stock gets either 3D printed or is milled out of whatever wood or composite material you pick--every option from basic plastic up to exhibition grade wood. When complete the stock gets shipped to you and you put it on your gun.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              because a red dot is cheaper than a fitted stock.
              Also knowing where a ball you throw is going is 100% about mechanical consistency. something a red dot would help you with because if you can't see the dot you aren't lined up and because red dots have less parallax effect

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because a red dot is cheaper than a fitted stock.
                Yes, but it doesn't achieve the same goal. An optical sight takes time to use. You don't have that when you're trying to hit some fast-ass clay or bird. In fact, it's actually counterproductive because you have to lead fast-moving targets, that means your "sight picture" often ends up with the body of the sight itself obscuring the target.

                >Also knowing where a ball you throw is going is 100% about mechanical consistency.
                You're missing the point that your brain computes everything automatically without needing any point of reference at all. In other words, you don't need a bead or a red dot either.

                > because if you can't see the dot you aren't lined up
                That is a minor benefit, but it's certainly not worth the disadvantage of forcing you to look for a dot which is missing the point entirely, and it's also not worth the disadvantage of having a physical object block your view while you try and lead the target.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the whole point of a red dot is they are faster to use, reddit spacer.
                >You're missing the point that your brain computes everything automatically without needing any point of reference at all. In other words, you don't need a bead or a red dot either.
                you are missing the point about mount consistency. I only know where the ball is going when I throw it because of the constancy of my throws.
                >That is a minor benefit, but it's certainly not worth the disadvantage of forcing you to look for a dot which is missing the point entirely, and it's also not worth the disadvantage of having a physical object block your view while you try and lead the target.
                red dot
                hard to find
                red dot
                blocking your view

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the whole point of a red dot is they are faster to use
                But they aren't faster to use in the context of OP's question. Aimed shooting at static targets? Absolutely. Point shooting at fast-moving targets that you don't know where they are at any given moment? No.

                >you are missing the point about mount consistency.
                Are you trying to say that mounting is important? Yeah, it is.

                >I only know where the ball is going when I throw it because of the constancy of my throws.
                That's not the ONLY reason. It's one of many. The important one--the one that's relevant to this discussion--is how you can do it without any "sights".

                >red dot
                >hard to find
                *ANY* sight is harder to find than point-shooting. It's not that red dots are worse than other sights, is that no sight at all is optimal for this specific application.

                >red dot
                >blocking your view
                See picrel. It really sucks to have the body of the sight right there where you're trying to aim. Remember, there's lead here. It's not "put the red dot on the duck", it's "put the red dot in front of the duck", which now means that the body of the sights is blocking your view of said duck.

                Have you never shot birds or clays before? It sounds like you're approaching this like you would an AR or a defensive pistol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it would help if I remembered the pic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that isn't how red dots look with both eyes open

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reddit spacing
                not going to read all that, write normal

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >brings up reddit out of nowhere
                You lose because you didn't own a gun before 2013.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you reddit space

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You've obviously never done any clay or wing shooting.

            You know what has a better field of view than a red dot?

            No box constraining your vision.

            You didn't have a rear sight on a shotgun. It's your eye.

            Figure out your mount and you really don't focus on the front sight like you would shooting irons on a rifle/pistol

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >reddit spacing
              didn't read

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              reddit spacing, you never owned a single gun in your life.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't know how to use a red dot and that's sad.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it was pretty shitty because field of view
          Are you… shooting with one eye closed? You should have both open when shotgun shooting AND when using a red dot

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >both eyes open
          >fov is no longer an issue

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Paint front bead red
    >Save $300
    >???
    >Profit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$300
      you can get a romeo 5 for under $125

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >B-but my chinkshit red dot is cheap!
        Still a waste of money when clayshooting is done often with the site only as a reference such as when shooting 90 degrees from the clay travel.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sig is chinkshit
          If siggers are good enough for the army, they are good enough for me

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, stupid. The whole point is to learn how to shoot accurately without needing a crutch to lean on.
    Take that shit off your gun and don't come back until you can regularly do 18/20 after 4 beers, you stupid gear queer homosexual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no gunz homosexual troony detected

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can only do 18, and only drink 4 beers?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skeet isn't about sighting the bead, it's finding the angle of the clay and knowing your lead and swing, a red dot wouldn't help and as others said would be counter productive since it would interrupt your vision and depth.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Non of these homosexuals ITT shoot trap. Height over bore is a deal breaker for this. You would need hold overs that do not make sense and with no reference but sky in order to line the barrel up and lead the target at varying distances. The point of a red dot is to reference where the bullet will impact at a certain distance but is only useful with combat holds that do not make sense in bird hunting/trap shooting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t boomer

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick are morons in this thread talking about iron sights in the context of wingshooting?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because a majority of /k/'s user base got into guns for larp reasons and have never shot or fricked with guns or shooting sports that they think are fud since it doesn't play into there "hero with a gun" self insert.
      It's been that way for at least the 14 years I've been here.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. That’s dumb. Just use your bead sight zoomer. Not everything needs a red dot. Shotgun is fine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shotgun red dots are a le zoomer thing
      meanwhile in the 1970s...

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Used it for Trap shooting on my crappy cylinder choke Maverick 88. Scored a 25/25 and made some boomers mad enough to push the flight back to 10 yards from house, after that I was at 18/25 and made one of them with a custom M2 rage quit and cuss me out.

    Its good for acquisition but lots of trap and skeet is point instinctive so it can quickly become a crutch unless you have a good wide view RD that you train yourself to use with both eyes open. Haven't tried it on my O/U yet cause mounting hardware is a b***h to come by but you can see some improvements with a RDS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whats that shit on the side of the receiver?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a mounting bracket I got for $8 because I'm too lazy to call a gun smith to tap my $90 partsbin shotgun. The most expensive thing on there is the optic and I got it for $100.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh I didn't realize the pic rail at the top was held on by the side screws

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    boomers

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, it’s gay.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no one here has guns

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

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