Does anyone else here install knob and tube wiring by choice because fuck the government telling you how to design your own power system?

Does anyone else here install knob and tube wiring by choice because frick the government telling you how to design your own power system? How is it working out so far? Any scary incidents/fires?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Does anyone else here install knob and tube wiring by choice because frick the government
    No you fricking moron. Where the hell would you even get insulators?
    Are you the butthole that wanted to move somewhere without codes because he didn't want to put outlets in his hallway?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I would like to, but I'll have to figure out how to make the insulators first. I have a kiln, I just have to come up with a usable recipe for electrical porcelain, and a way to mold them efficiently. Knob and tube is peak house wiring aesthetics though, romex can suck a dick.

      >Does anyone else here install knob and tube wiring by choice
      nope
      next low effort troll thread plz

      If you don't know what you are doing the you should listen to the government.

      Shut the frick up.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        couldn't you just use ceramic/porcelain fencing insulators? I mean they wouldn't be exact, but they would do the job...

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'd rather make them myself so I could determine the exact size and design, and fence insulators would only be knobs, not tubes.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, you're really bad at this. One, ceramic insulators are still sold, two, there's no such thing as "electrical porcelain", and three, you're just shitty at trolling.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >there's no such thing as "electrical porcelain"
          Imagine thinking all porcelain is the same and equally valuable as insulation. If people like you were in charge of things 150 years ago we would've never had a telephone network. Ceramic insulators are sold, yes, but household knob and tube insulators are not the same as electric fence insulators and the two are not interchangeable if you actually care about what you're doing.

          no because the power company wont sell me power, the insurrance company wont insurre me and lastly its insanely stupid and it would end up killing someone hence its actually illegal.

          >no because the power company wont sell me power, the insurrance company wont insurre me
          How would they know? You gonna tell 'em?

          > its insanely stupid and it would end up killing someone
          K&T wiring is only dangerous if it gets wet. You have a roof leak or something? Fix that shit first then.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >whats declaration of conformity
            >whats electrical inspections

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              declaration of conformity
              electrical inspections
              Shit that doesn't happen after you own your house.

              Go back to your containment board

              Insulators for electric fences should work?

              What the frick, is this thread full of AI posters or something? The israelite obviously fears the unlicensed knob & tube electrician.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Shut the frick up.
        I figured it was you,

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Karen fears the mighty extension cord.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >recipe for electrical porcelain
        Here's where you fricked up. Next time just say you found a couple boxes of unused insulators in your barn and that's what inspired you to do this.

        I bet you're the same guy who keeps posting the PEX threads too, aren't you? What are you, a professional shitposter?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Wow, you're really bad at this. One, ceramic insulators are still sold, two, there's no such thing as "electrical porcelain", and three, you're just shitty at trolling.

          "3. Porcelain Insulators
          Insulators whose insulating parts are made of electrical ceramics. Electrical ceramics are baked from quartz, feldspar, and clay as raw materials."

          from https://kvcable.com/breakdown-the-types-of-insulators/

          Go for it OP; city people are subhuman

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to your containment board

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Insulators for electric fences should work?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Where the hell would you even get insulators?
      Amazon. They still sell ceramic post insulators for electric fences, things like that.

      And yes, this is a troll. Stop being angry at trolls.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'll 3D print them. And you need to break your addiction to vacuum cleaners. We know what you do with that hose late at night when you think everyone else is asleep.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    knob and tube is allowed by code for new installations on farms. so you are still doing something that the government allows you to. not really fighting the system.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >knob and tube is allowed by code for new installations on farms
      No, it isn't. Code does not allow knob and tube in any new installation. That's why no one makes the insulators anymore.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >t. not an electrician

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >That's why no one makes the insulators anymore.
        They do still make the, there are at least two manufactures of them that I know. Once you get rural there are few if any codes for single family residential self builds, county is not going to pay an inspector to drive 100 miles out to the middle of no where over and over to inspect your build. Generally if you are beyond the reach of emergency services you are beyond the reach of building codes for single family self build.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Does anyone else here install knob and tube wiring by choice
    nope
    next low effort troll thread plz

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't know what you are doing the you should listen to the government.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no because the power company wont sell me power, the insurrance company wont insurre me and lastly its insanely stupid and it would end up killing someone hence its actually illegal.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      but it looks like miniature power lines but in my walls and ceiling, very nostalgic and /comfy/, we had houses like this built for hundreds of years, I really don't see the risk if I install them properly

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That looks like better routing than through joists and stapling.

    What are the drawbacks of K&T? Cloth insulated wire and lack of a ground conductor?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    knob and tube is no worse than the dogshit breakfast mess that americans regularly show here as normal wiring. at least it's neat and organised.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is with the insulation right? You can't tell me all the Romex in my house won't need to be replaced in 80 years. The stuff from the 60s already looks like shit

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    knob and tube is good if the house isn't insulated
    the two are not really compatible

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's permitted conditionally in a few states(CA, OR, WA, NE) provided it's inspected first

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what he meant. Knot and tube needs free space. You can't bury it in insulation.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Left that important bit out, they allow insulation around the K&T wiring provided it passes inspection

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > Install K&T cuz frick the gvt
    > This shit is easy, route it where I want to go
    > Frick man, why would I bother writing anything down?
    > Different materials in my house? Drill a hole & ceramic it, it's not like the differential temperature expansion of materials can crack ceramic anyway
    > No ceramic isn't harder than tempered glass, it wouldn't cut through muh NM-B 14/2
    > I forgot how many amps are drawn on this circuit? Eh, it's probably fine
    > Shit I guess I'll just use this neutral segment as a hot for this one switch, no prob senpai
    > Grounding is a waste of time. Neutral just goes to ground in my electrical box anyway.
    > WDYM conductors have built in resistance and get hot?
    > Anyway don't drive any nails into the wall, who knows what could be there.
    > GG gvt.

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