Does any other military or army group partake in such physiological training?
Does not fearing death make you perform better on the battlefield?
Did the kamikaze pilots perform similar rituals, or did they just reference the manual?
https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/10/22/ukrainian-gur-servicemen-bury-themselves-as-part-of-psychological-training/
It's just a weird thing. Like Marines drinking snake blood and Green Berets eating snakes.
badass
this is kinda goofy but it's not uncommon to do some sort of trial or mental conditioning for live combat
The bayonet drill, the gas mask drill, unrelenting physical training, brutal marches, exhaustion and vomiting and sleep deprivation in training, street gang initiations (beat-ins and kill missions), the 80s Mujahideen would smoke beetles and other shit out their hashish pipes to "prove their toughness" in the struggle against the commies. The IRA had new members go on kill missions before moving up in the ranks.
>The IRA had new members go on kill missions before moving up in the ranks.
Dude. This is glownaggers detector play.
>Like Marines drinking snake blood and Green Berets eating snakes.
Do they share the same snakes?
Yes, because the Marines and Green Berets are part of the United States military, why wouldn't they share things
They used to but after a marine corps lance corporal let out the snakes in the Everglades the population of snakes exploded and have basically consumed every small mammal in the Everglades, the surplus of snakes saves the US Military money so nobody does anything about it
Could we employ marines/green berets as human lawnmowers in order to solve the snake population crisis?
That sounds like something they'd do.
or British Royal marines eating each others cum off a cream cracker.
That’s nothing,compared to 3Para Mortars;-)
Snakes taste surprisingly good. I'm now vegetarian, but if you like meat try snake.
>I'm now vegetarian
So you turned retarded?
Noted,Anon,thank you.
>Does not fearing death make you perform better on the battlefield?
Shitting your pants and curling up in fetal position rarely makes for an effective fighter.
>Did the kamikaze pilots perform similar rituals
They had a last cup of sake.
I accepted my death several times last year. Once, prior to the Ukraine trip, then after regular rocket strikes around our base started. And eventually, before my first major assault.
It definitely helps in being calmer and I'm not having any PTSD after being in many sketchy situations back there.
Based.
Tell more
I told my story multiple times on /k/ in fragments. Even created a thread here back in March 2022 asking for gear suggestions.
See not reason to elaborate much ITT.
Another combat veteran from 2014 part of the conflict told me when I got back to just "not think about it" and he was right. Dwelling on past memories will not make it easier. If you come back into civil life having no emotional support and shit to do, you tend to overthink the past events and feelings you had and dwell on how you miss it. And it can lead down the drain for sure.
Belarusian. English is my third language, thanks for pointing out my mistakes.
I've posted plenty of shit here already, but here is something new just for you my friend. Take a guess what it is
>Belarusian
you're already based beyond what I'll ever be, but that said, when are you gonna liberate your country from that drooling russian boot licker?
>accepted my death
Retard you're there by choice you are either, incredibly low IQ, suicidal, have cognitive dissonance, or are trying to sound hard.
Shut the fuck up, you pussy, it's painfully obvious the only hardship you suffered in life was tripping on your way from the counter at the local restaurant and spilling your spaghetti all over the floor. Fucking fatass.
what fucking era are we in where growing up poor is something you can be proud of, where homosexuals like you actively look for dangerous situations so they can say
>it's painfully obvious the only hardship you suffered in life was bla bla bla
homosexual try hard shit.
If you die you die and no one will care homosexual lmao you're no tough guy when people are partying when you're not there.
Struggle for life bullshit.. The tiger wasn't brought by lamb parents. If you are proud of having a shit life, it's only the cultural landscapes that says it's cool. Deep down we all know you as a homosexual
Experiencing adversity and pushing through obstacles makes you a more capable human being. It's fucking ridiculous when morons like you talk shit to a combat veteran. I mean look at yourself, what's the essence of your life, what makes you better from your perspective? Partying? Being born into something? You sound like some wannabe decadent sandnagger aristocrat. In reality this has nothing to do with financial status, people who seek out things to overcome for the benefit of society are commendable, and people who idle around and waste their lives on masturbation like you are literal gutter trash.
I was in the Marines as infantry. I didn't get deployed to a warzone. But I had friends who did. One of them was a borderline gangster living off the street who joined to have a place to live, eat, sleep and earn some money. If you've been in the military in the past two to three decades you'd know how many absolute low IQ cholos and nagger gangbangers end up joining. One of them is a combat vet who earned the Pizza Box (lowest possible marksmanship badge) and actually had a kill to his name. Checking on his Facebook he's a wannabe rapper and unemployed. But he's better than you and me I suppose. After all he's a combat vet, confirmed kill, what else could you ask for? Peak masculinity. We should all strive to be a manlet who used a rifle to kill someone in the name of bankers.
From what you're saying that kill and his service were the peak moments of his life, so you're kinda reinforcing the point that you're trying to argue against.
Getting lucky by not stepping on an IED and then shooting a guy laying prone 50 yards out who's not aware of me (as told by my failed rapper friend) should not be the high point of anyone's lives. I much prefer my own family I've started, business I'm growing, and accolades in my shooting sports. I don't even mention the fact I was Infantry outside of these stupid dick waving discussions where the only "logic" these pre-teens will listen to is if it's coming from the mouth of Jocko or another service member.
Maybe it shouldn't, but from what you're saying that guys would've been a useless pleb had he not joined the Marines. Now he's a useless pleb who did something useful for his country. Whether the country took advantage of his work or wasted is a different matter altogether.
>Shut the fuck up, you pussy, it's painfully obvious the only hardship you suffered in life was tripping on your way from the counter at the local restaurant and spilling your spaghetti all over the floor. Fucking fatass.
Gayest shit I ever seen on this board.
> was tripping on your way from the counter at the local restaurant and spilling your spaghetti all over the floor.
But this is literally over....
Madder than a 14 year old ethuggin on MySpace
Is he really a pussy for not fighting for globohomo?
I feel liek a asshole fighting for russia now reading this dudes comment. It was really bro and relaxing experience felt like the gym.
A few /k/ommandos volunteered to go fight in the Syrian clusterfuck, so it's not unheard of, I remember them doing AMAs on 8/k/ too. I can't imagine how much seethe that would generate if they did that today and posted here; /misc/ taking over the whole site was a mistake.
I'm not saying it's unheard of, or even a bad thing. He's just a larping homosexual. You don't accept death when you're doing the dangerous activity by choice, as if it's something out of your control.
Ty sir
Lol this nagger is so mad that his bulshit got called out.
>Lol this nagger is so mad that his bulshit got called out.
I knew this was coming and I knew you'd be so tone-deaf you'd confuse me with OP. You're the nagger. You're also fat.
>you don't accept death when you're doing it by choice
That's exactly when you do it. Holy shit you're incredibly young, naive and stupid
>You don't accept death when you're doing the dangerous activity by choice
What the fuck am I reading
>You don't accept death when you're doing the dangerous activity by choice
>its/pol/
MAYBE ITS BEYOND THAT NOW YOU DOUBLE nagger
What a homosexual
/misc/ hasn't taken over the whole site, dumbass. /misc/ has been taken over by commies, schizos, shills and shitskins.
> /misc/ taking over the whole site was a mistake.
Truer words were never spoken
works relatively well as a containment board with only the occasional schizo getting lost and shitting up another board. i think the alternative would be way worse
>works relatively well as a containment board with only the occasional schizo getting lost and shitting up another board
man, is this your first post on this site or something? /misc/ schizos are everywhere, even straight-up taking over some boards, like with PrepHole and /int/. /misc/ is an awful containment board.
>PrepHole and /int/
don't know about /int/ but PrepHole is relatively tame. usually whenever /misc/naggers show up they get called out and people write well phrased paragraphs disproving their bullshit. sometimes those (you) bait posters inadvertently start a discussion and people share talking points until the thread eventually dies days later.
religious proselytizers can be annoying but you gotta live with that one way or another. apart from that it's by far my favorite board and i like to visit it regularly after /x/ became complete and utter schizo central throughout the last 10+ years.
altogether /misc/ack derailment isn't as bad outside of /misc/. the occasional rabid chud encounters are not that big of a deal.
>theatrics
yeah it's usually for the soldiers so they can keep telling themselves how fearless and tough they are. armed forces all over the world have those bullshit rituals, helps them cope with the stress and fear of dying and creates an environment of a sworn elite community. in addition it does impress gullible retards who feed into that ubermensch warrior mythos. pic related
>armed forces all over the world have those bullshit rituals
Not really. This is something insecure neverserveds tell themselves to feel superior.
not the guy you reply to, but I intentionally went to fight in Ukraine because I'm suicidal
As if going there by choice and accepting the inevitability of your death are mutually exclusive? You can do both you stupid fucking homosexual
thank you for your service
>and I'm not having any PTSD
yet
>prior to the Ukraine trip
>Ukraine trip
Nigga, are you Russian or something?
>willingly enters warzone
>muh hardship
Fuck off
> Unsuprisingly, anon is retarded
pics or didn’t happen
Give it time.
Shut up POG
just seems like typical slav shit. same as african and arab shit.
acting tough is more important than actual training and preparation.
Don't know if any do rituals, but the wiser ones probably address it if they're going into a combat role.
better slav quirk than rusky's prefered assraping hierarchy
I think special forces in general teach you that you can potentially die in a mission. So while they teach you to preserve yourself and also ensure group cooperation/survivability, they also put it in your head that each mission will be it.
I've been told a similar thing about the U.S. Navy Seals. Not having been in the Navy, I can't confirm if true, but I certainly believe it's possible. Supposedly, part of intense elite-tier training involves going on an underwater mission, then swimming off a ways and deliberately removing your breathing gear and drowning. You rely on your buddies to drag you out of the water and resuscitate you afterward. It's supposed to be team-building as well as training to control fear, and not entirely different from getting buried alive and hoping your buddies remember to dig you up. That's a lot of involuntary, captive sensory deprivation, a lot of time to do some really in-depth thinking about shit.
I'm certain people will have their own take on that, but the first guy to tell me about the Seals thing was my Open Water SCUBA instructor, an ex-Seal. A Vietnam vet (Marines) I worked with said he was told the same thing when he served there. Over the years I've heard the same story several times from different, unrelated sources. Something going on with that, even if the details are somewhat obscured.
Drowning and resuscitating is pretty daft imo. Drowning means getting (dirty) water in your lungs. If resuccitation is succesfull there is a high risk of pneumonia, often lethal.
If this story is somewhat true, might it be they use tanks with nitrogen instead of air to get the effect without the lung damage? (still daft imo but not full retard)
Seems like that'd cause some deaths. You can USUALLY survive drowning if you're resuscitated right away, but "usually" isn't good enough if everyone needs to go through it.
I've heard something similar in Pararescue indoctrination training but without the drowning
More or less operations designed to eliminate your fear of death.
I think you got trolled by someone who read ASOIAF too many times (religion in the books drows and resusciates people on purpose because they are fucking insane)
Resusciation is not reliable, there would be a 10% fatality rate minimum, drowning ALWAYS causes some degree of lung damage and you are at an absolutely massive risk for developing serious pulmonary illness after a drowning or near-drowning event
HAHAHAHA that’s the biggest load of horseshit I ever heard
>yea we literally kill ourselves and then come back to life cause how badass we are
>trust me bro
Get back to swindling vetbros Jocko
> then swimming off a ways and deliberately removing your breathing gear and drowning. You rely on your buddies to drag you out of the water and resuscitate you afterward
Thank you for this. This is the cue for quitting PrepHole. You illiterate piece of American excrement.
And after drowning and being brought back to life and being braindead from being more than 3 minutes without pumping oxygen to the brain, what exactly is their function in the seals? PrepHole shill department, is it?
>Does any other military or army group partake in such physiological training?
yes
it's very old 60s era Cold War pysops horseshit
my fucking SCHOOL made us do this a couple of times, it was epicly retarded
>imagine you're gonna die anon
>won't your parents be disappointed?
>be a good boy mmkay
a lot of posters here are thinking of tactical training like digging a hole and letting tanks run overhead; this is not that
this is some ludicrous mindfuckery thing, and there was indeed an era when this stuff was in vogue
>deliberately removing your breathing gear and drowning
the drowning part is wrong
what is well known is that SEALs do (did) have a kind of training where they jumped into a pool without scuba gear and took turns sharing a set of tanks, which is the real objective of the training. obviously this is useful in case somebody's tanks get damaged, and everything in the army is always rehearsed
>Drowning and resuscitating is pretty daft
it is, because you can die from a spoonful of water in your lungs, even after you're out of the water
not fear of death, that's retarded, but training and practising an essential technique
>having to raise chickens
ain't nobody got time for that
but learning to slaughter, gut and cook live animals is standard survival training across the world
the UK SAS were heavy into that, and everyone else basically copies them
"Special" forces.
Just meditate on the inevitability of death and you'll know what to do with your life. This is the same retarded shit as double flip spetsnaz axe throwing.
>bro meditating in your room is just as good bro I'm just as tough bro I swear
this man was so fucking real. he was right all along
I would guess this exercise allows you to accept feeling vulnerable and helpless without panicking.
There are studies that show that working on controlled breathing does help with things like reducing adrenaline anxiety and lower cortisol levels. Secondly there has also been work done on combat stress reactions that show that after the initial stress-induced response, the body can become more resistant over time when the person is allowed to work through the stressful event. Developing skills in recognition, training in stressful environments, application, etc .can all help prevent stress in a combat environment. There is also research about guys like Alex Hannold and his unnatural amygdala response (likely from a lifetime of stressful situations).
I have zero doubt that a controlled subjection of stress and working through the problem could help prevent combat stress reactions. As long as this is done is a consensual, controlled, and consistent manner with a purpose, I have no problem with it.
aren't they just creating psychopaths? there's gonna be a lot of serial killer after the war in ukraine
They are already recruiting that type. It’s one thing to carry out a military mission or defend an area, but trench raiding is straight up murder. You get right up close and ideally gun down unarmed men. Most mobiks remember don’t have weapons so they are often gunned down in a scramble for their guns. It’s just slaughter. The kind of person who can do that is low empathy already.
>Most mobiks remember don’t have weapons so they are often gunned down in a scramble for their guns. It’s just slaughter. The kind of person who can do that is low empathy already.
If the target is something less than human, I don't follow how empathy is relevant.
Watch that edge son
>if you kill your enemy, they win
>if you you volunteer to fight, you can't accept the inevitability of your death en situ
>psychological training is just fake tough guy shit, they need psychological training
>Ukraine is recruiting psychos because no one else is capable of trench raiding
Quit samefagging, you have the worst opinions on war I've seen on this board yet
>aren't they just creating psychopaths?
wdym?
>gonna be a lot of serial killer after the war in ukraine
Toss that one into "good problems to have in the future" category.
The US doesn’t want to deal with Ukrainian nationalists committing jihad and mass shoutings after the war. It’s why Ukrainian lives are worthless and we send just enough aid where both sides die off.
What is the stance on medium-size talks at reasonable volume?
>mass shoutings
Like, skyrim'ing a bunch of little ruslings?
>mass shoutings
Nah, if anything, it'll be Russia's problem.
Chechen vets after the war went to the middle east to partake in more jihad, Ukrainian vets will either readjust or seek out more wars against Russia.
Do you really think the basic grunts in the trenches getting arty and droned 24/7 fair any better? There are thousands of psychopaths out there already and everyday there are more and more.
>Ate the flesh and drank the blood of their human messiah.
>Died to the world and crucified their flesh to be born again
>Get known as the "iron men" from being indomitable in battle, victories over hosts more than twice their size in the initial war.
Warriors from all throughout time have had rituals to believe themselves invulnerable, spiritually and physically.
Ancient people would dance around a fire chanting and hyping themselves for an upcoming battle, or to just make things less boring.
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Drink, food, drug, prayer, or ritual, it all serves to make the soldier become more powerful
But does it actually work? Maybe until you get shot or someone near you gets shot then it's back to what they taught you in training.
>Did the kamikaze pilots perform similar rituals, or did they just reference the manual?
They wrote poetry and had some sake before flying probably, the poetry for sure.
How we got the poetry is just as crazy.
>An Excerpt from Kamikaze Death Poetry
>The American woman studying it translated it to English, gave it to her friend in Iraq, then died.
>Then the friend in Iraq finished translating it in English and was in the process of translating it to Arabic, then he gave it to his 13-year-old pupil.
>The pupil who then started to finish translating the poems to Arabic but then decided to do a fucking suicide attack on U.S. forces in Baghdad.
>Then the U.S. Soldier who was tasked with searching the 13-year-old girl's family home and finding any plans related to more suicide attacks instead found the collection of poems and went AWOL with them.
>Soldier brought the collections to a literary agent in New York.
>The soldier was then stabbed to death by a mugger in the back alleys of New York.
Yup, that's an ancient Shinto curse all right.
Like that Twilight Zone episode with the angry veteran, the Japanese American , and the Samurai sword.
Post the poem
i have not posted in years, but...here is an excerpt:
What did I do to you?
There is the ocean air – there – is this the final breath?
Why are there only questions?
Three white cranes are laughing.
I mourn for my eyes.
There is no fear to stop me.
There is no anger to stop me.
There is no love to stop me.
There is no death.
Prologue
we are schooled as kamikaze artists
to inaugurate our own deaths with words
we are all moving toward our own deaths
with the awkward speed of an antique bomber
we are not unique we measure life in war
and reconciliation we surprise ourselves
with our own vengeance and then forgive
ourselves readily when we are at peace
we hold dear chaotic memory we only
understand as we are ending that we never
understand anything at all
that is the way until we find another
Editors’ note: this “Prologue” to the rest of the collection represents the efforts of at least
3 different writers. Ramona Waters, Ali Hassan and Jali al-Ogedi all clearly contributed
to the crafting of this introductory piece.
That's some twilight zone shit, reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC9wmvGNtOQ
Spec ops die and get maimed a lot, its good to do some weird shit to make them tough or feel special
>farts in your snorkel
>Right now there are thousands of cadres face-palming that they aren't practicing drills, running laps, or team-building exercises instead of laying in a fucking hole for 4 hours.
>face-palming that they aren't practicing drills, running laps, or team-building exercises
I'm sure they do that too, then a 4 hour dirt nap to relax.
>Does any other military or army group partake in such physiological training?
no
>Does not fearing death make you perform better on the battlefield?
no
>Did the kamikaze pilots perform similar rituals, or did they just reference the manual?
no
You didn't even get the easy one right
Sounds like fun
Before deployment our CO would take us back to his house individually and fuck us. He told us "if you can handle getting fucked by me, then you shouldn't fear being captured and being raped by the enemy." This continued pretty much daily and he'd have a cigarette every time.
Did anyone else have this happen while they prepared to ship out?
Are you Russian by any chance.
No why
sounds like dedovshchina
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Yes they do mock executions during SERE school which all US SOF go through except Rangers
That's because the Rangers aren't special forces.
I think a mock execution during training, no matter how realistic the setup, would still fail to really be believable.
Mock parachute failure with remote deploy in the end.
For you as an onlooker surely not. Being subjected to one is another story.
The way to make them believable is preventing the victim from having a moments rest to gather his thought and think clearly. If you not only control their environment but also most aspects of their being keeping them constantly on edge is fairly easy.
And once they are in a near panic state this gets even easier.
It's the culmination of the "resist" phase where you've been slapped around, eletrocuted, waterboarded, hypothermic, no sleep or food for 5 days etc
"The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead."
Based response based leader
>hey you want a smoke?
>no thanks sir.
Stripped of the melodramatic theater, this is "go and have a think for a bit" with a slightly stressful situation thrown in to keep your inner monolog on topic. In ye olden days, they would have made you spend all night in prayer before you took your vows.
I too would find this a very enjoyable meditation.
. . . Actually maybe this is just to make properly sure their spec ops are all 100% certified autistic.
and eating raw snakes
I think I read this in a magazine decades ago, but apparently Thai Navy SEALs spend a night in the jungle with a corpse during training. Thai society is highly superstitious, so they need to be able to have guys not totally lose their shit to ghosts and spirits and that they won't be affected by something like Operation Wandering Soul.
Behold the most hardened Brit, Karl Pilkington:
Some weird form of stress inoculation?
No special training, but crusaders with leprosy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Lazarus
That's retarded.
Hahaha literal meat grinder
sort of related but years ago i had a very vivid dream where i was on a plane that was going to crash and at the moment we were about to hit i felt at peace with everything before waking up
it definitely changed my viewpoint on everything and how i am thankful for everything i have and not to fear death
Yeah I had that "Facing certain death you get a feeling of certainty"
It's an alien feeling I've never felt before and I'll likely never feel again until my time has come.
imaging some chick sitting on that snorkel and making you breath her farts. that would really suck haha.
during the wars we attended (Bulgaria) it was a common practice a priest to give last communion to the people going on the front line
it's a Cossacks thing, you wouldn't understand and its ok.
Eastern Slavs love all this weird performative bullshit. It's harmless I guess
>be non-Russian growing up in Russia
>accept death when stabbed in an abdomen in a mugging attempt before the age of 18
>no vitals hit
Can you actually breathe under a mound of dirt? Won't it crush your lungs?
It's like one foot tall top, it's the military equivalent of this
Is this how Chandler died?
Probably
shit ive passed out alone in my hot tub, how dangerous is this?
you'd wake up as soon as you start breathing in water, unless you're black-out drunk or zoned out on pills that is.
normally your body will have a sort of panic reaction rushing in adrenaline making you jump up from your sleep as if you've waking up from a nightmare, kinda like that sudden drop you get once in a while when trying to fall asleep, in this case it's a faulty reaction which in the normal case forces you to react to a fall when you trip or lose balance.
don't fall asleep in the tub when drunk or full of suicide pills
idk I've been told I was found asleep underwater, however I have no way to verify this
Has been a thing for a long time. Like letting tanks drive over you so you can chug a grande at them.
sounds like slavic bullshit cope. you're only gonna traumatise them and make them claustrophobic. at this point just use a drill sergeant to break them mentally so you can mould them into psychotic killing machines like in nam. oh it's gonna be fun to see ukraine post war
Anon you don't make people phobic (without overly traumatic experience this is not one). You weed out claustrophobic people for sure, but not make one.
The guy you're arguing with is a faggaroni but you're a bigger fag than him, make of that what you will
miyamoto musashi, the most sucessful samurai at winning duals, talked about accepting death in his famous book 'the book of five rings'
he said something along the lines of 'before every fight you must accept you have already lost and are already dead, once you have accepted this you can fight knowing you have nothing to lose'
some special forces/inteligence servives form different parts of the world alledgedly would give you a puppy at the beginning of training, and you have to kill it at the end
i think its the guatamalan special forces where part of the training is getting shot and having to treat the wound yourself
>Intentionally throwing yourself under fire is peak nihilism and retarded.
It's called "sacrifice" and "service". It's not retarded, if it wasn't for people who are willing to risk it all for the benefit of society we wouldn't have a civilization.
>The dead are deadly wrong and they deserve all the disrespect they get when we tread on all those useless bones of the proud and courageous everyday
Newsflash: we're all going to die someday. None of us are going to survive.
Your attitude is nihilistic and corrosive to society at large, and your talk about results is pretty pointless - if everyone could get ripped effortlessly, the society of totally ripped people would still have some new heights to climb.
As for soldiering, we still need soldiers as we can't conduct warfare without humans, so people who pursue this career by participating in just wars are worthy of praise. It's not a "funny game", it's work that needs to be done and certain people are willing to do it. And since it's exceptionally hard and dangerous, they deserve to have their service to society recognized.
Materialistic narcissists do the society a disservice and corrupt everything around them, so the society rightfully considers them to be pests.
that's not even deep enough that he couldn't dig himself out. what a waste
Of course you're a hyper-individualistic nihilistic libertarian narcissist. Society doesn't stop existing when you die. You stop existing when you die. In order to find value in influencing the world you just have to believe in objective reality, which is a rather fair bet. And if there's no objective reality, everything is pointless anyway, so might as well pretend as if it's there.
Fighting enthropy is a natural human behavior, without fighting enthropy there's no civilization and no fancy philosophy for retards like you to misunderstand.
You honestly sound like a college student and you'll probably understand how stupid you were in 5 or 10 years. And then you'll regret that you've been wasting time on nonsense that felt good at the time, but only made you miserable in the long term.
That's all I've got to say to you, you're just a stupid fucking kid with 0 life experience. If you are an actual adult, may god have mercy on your soul.
I'm not nihilistic and I value what's there. The exact opposite of someone who throws away the only cards he was dealt, because of some abstract values
It's not about abstract values, if you valued what's there you'd realize it's worth protecting, and thus appreciate people who fill that niche. You sound incredibly self-absorbed. It's not all about you, snowflake.
Some things are worth more than your specific life, an experience you'd recognize if you weren't a 20 year old taking philosophy 101
yeah good for you, I won't try too hard. These arguments I have made is the extent of how much I pity lost souls that believe in something they have no grasp on. I really don't care much if you people die, only it's a little sad avoidable note to learn that another guy died today, COD: retarded.
broken glass fallacy
>broken glass fallacy
Benefits and drawbacks aren't universally economic you fucking mong. Post gun with timestamp right now or fit these nuts in your mouth.
yes they are. Everything belongs to the market
Post gun homosexual.
>broken glass fallacy
lmao look at this melvin
Everytime I see something like in OP's pic, this picture comes to my mind.
Same was with many scenes from that TV documentary about Norwegian conscripts
Whatever happened to the old meme about [Insert Spec-Ops Group] having to raise chickens or puppies and then personally kill them? Did anyone ever actually do that?
I dont know about special forces but an air crew guy I knew had to kill a bunny that he picked out in SERE
Is that in Latvia?
No. US
Didn't know that was thing in US training. If they wanted it to be realistic survival training they should have to hunt for rabbit.
The most realistic way to get protein in a survival situation is to eat insects, fish, and set snares, and that is what SF survival training emphasises.
They're also taught to slaughter, gut and cook animals and that is where the chickens and rabbits come in.
It's NOT to make them kill the animal they raised or bullshit like that. Ain't nobody got time for that, and it's also downright psychopathic.
They're also accustomed to eating all kinds of animals, so in addition to rabbit - which is really a common food and farmed all over the world - snake, monkey, lizard and guinea pig is on the menu. The aim of this is to get troops over the squeamishness of eating exotic bush meat.
All depends where they at.
Doubt that's real. It would be a counterproductive training method.
Soldiers need to learn how to dehumanize the enemy tribe, not how to kill within their own bonded tribe.
What's the earliest that meme came from? I remember hearing that Waffen SS guys, or at least the hardline party guys had to do that to get in. Is there earlier instances of that idea floating around?
Raising chickens sounds like something the SS would do considering they were ran by a chicken farmer
Shinobi used to do this as a form of training. But it was more just to get them used to hiding in strange spots for hours on end
>Does any other military or army group partake in such physiological training?
>physiological training
Yes, in the retarded ones.
Sounds kinda cringe like all those tough man rituals Russian or asiatic/Chink special forces do on camera.
Jesus fucking christ for most of you in this thread the most stressfull event in life was a . Inb4 blogpost
>Be me
>Middle of African township, went for a drink with buddies
>Probably the only white guys in 100km radius
>Left everything except some cash and passport at the hotel, pickpockets around
>Had a dumb idea to walk from a bar instead of ubering
>All copper from the streetlights stolen long time ago, pitch dark except for the moon
>Hear "EYYY" from a building nearby, dumb drunk idiot me looked what's going on
>While i was looking a fucker to me from behind
>He had a shotty in his hands, i could smell the fucking rust on it
>Pressed it to my friends chest, screams something in bantu
>Friend got paralysed immediately, no words, no movement
>I say hey, I got just a small amount of cash, you can take it
>He gets really pissed, walks towards me and pushes the shotty to my neck, i swear the trigger was maybe a milimeter from sending me to afterlife
>He spoke no english (or just didn't care what i say), yelled at me more in bantu
>Turned my pockets inside out, he sees no money, they guy that yelled at the beginning calmed him a bit and they just walked away
That's on me tho, series of very dumb decisions. I'm lucky my friends treat it as a cool bragging story rather than trauma, and it was the ultimate fucking team building experience for us. And when i came back home, i had gotten so much more confident in my everyday life ,I felt fucking invincible, the toughest, luckiest, bravest shit on the planet Earth. Everybody who knew me noticed it too. I stopped stressing about my job, girls, bills, it felt so fucking mild. And before that i was no adrenaline junkie, but i tried skydiving, bungee, climbing, absolutly no comparison. And it was "just" getting robbed, there are much more traumatic events. So i definitely get that stressing soldiers and bringing them close to death might work wonders to their combat abilities and increase trust between unit members
>Jesus fucking christ for most of you in this thread the most stressfull event in life was a
PE lesson. Sorry im shitfaced
Funny, heard a story where someone got held up with a knife while working in an ED and since then he's just given no fucks, stopped being introverted, and became really confident.
I was never introverted to begin with, but yeah it makes you think. Have you ever met a shy fireman or a timid paramedic? Those guys that go under extreme stress for a living are usually the chillest mfs you ever met
It's more or less "code black training"
You push the mind and body to the point where your breaking
>Does any other military or army group partake in such physiological training?
submarine crews are selected for ability to handle high pressures
>he thinks taking a nap for a few hours while snug and cozy all enveloped with nice comfortable soil a few inches below the surface while not suffering acute physical pain and emotional trauma is like "facing death" lel
Why not sucking each other for 4 hours to accept they're gay
You're thinking of submariners.
In the navy
>spend 4 hours buried
Well that's already 2 hours more training than mobiks get
Jokes on them that's my fetish
Real or fake?
>noooo please don't let me sleep uninterrupted for 4 hours hahanooooo
Yeah no, it's gonna be four hours of labored breathing with over a feet of soil on top of you
just gotta pretend it's a big fat woman
>There are never benefits to war, only downsides
Peak idiot savant take
Do you not realise that by constantly taking shortcuts through life you will lack any discipline? And then when an avenue approaches where there is no shortcut, you will be totally incapable of dealing with it.
Take a look at your life honestly and tell me you’ve cultivated any kind of inner character beyond pleasure seeking.
Not even going to call you a homosexual - you just have a terrible life philosophy and I doubt anyone IRL appreciates you.
Throwing scorn at people who challenge themselves is literally just a projected insecurity.
Once again there are better ways of challenging yourself. It's just a cost benefit thing.
Maybe do some sports for fun idk.
Again what matters is the result, so if there are other ways better take those
its called hazing and its normal
>The dead are deadly wrong and they deserve all the disrespect they get when we tread on all those useless bones of the proud and courageous everyday
This is it, the single most cringe line I've ever read lmao
Well at least you will remember it
Not well enough to quote it seeing as the phrasing is tortured as fuck, but the gist of it will stick with me
that's what esl does to you
Is snorkel for when they fill it with water?
Every armies utilize some amount of psychology in their training, screaming in your face while you're trying to complete a task isn't just a motivator they're training your mind to be able to focus on a task while undergoing intense stress and distraction.
Lithuanians do it in their military academy training
lol these lazy fuckers will use any excuse for a nap
Lmao you're such a cringe homosexual typing all this shit no one reads past the 1st sentence, literally living in a world benefiting from all of the things you are trying to shit talk. You're a retarded nagger that can't wait to get his new consumer product, then talk about how it sucks they got rid of the feature you liked on the last one. Woe is you fat fingers
your gf cheats on you when you go ooperating
>nihilist gets bullied for acting like a monkey
>w-well you're a c-cuck
not any of the anons you're talking to, but damn, couldn't you have come up with something better after all that? you don't sound like an adult, are you sure you're allowed to be on this website?
you have no idea what nihilist means.
And I'm just saying, focus on what matters. Napoleon may have been some good general, but his wife cucked him so in the end it was all for nothing. And why he was out there campaining and ruining his country (what you people call being glorious), Talleyrand was out there fucking bitches with his retard clubfoot and saving the country and its people.
And history remembers what the shiteater macaques do, the reality is that the people that really matter are the ones who may not be in the spotlight, but who are not cucks and focus on what matters, living conditions.
Here: Napoleon = nihilist cuck/ Talleyrand = übermensch
>Napoleon may have been some good general, but his wife cucked him so in the end it was all for nothing
Damn, do you really believe that snatching some ho is worth more than leaving a worldwide-recognized legacy?
Talleyrand left a legacy comparable to Napoleon's, if not greater.
>greater
According to whom?
Some random anon?
Ask a politician who he'd rather be, there you have it. That's what a legacy is.
And why should I ask a politician specifically?
because anyone else pretending to be napoleon is retarded
Sounds like Napoleon has an unsurpassable legacy then
Ok
Jokes on you bitch I dump'em before Ieave. No distractions no worries. My mother will miss and mourn me. That's all I need
that's just compression asphyxia waiting to happen.
I accepted death while taking a shit in a hole i dug while hearing bullet whiz overhead
Reminded me of this scene. Not really sure what it is, but appears to be some type of kievian slavshit ritual.
fire
There might be some validity to it. There have been reports of people turning utterly calm when they are convinced that they are going to die no matter what.
And not simply accepting their mortality but actually convinced that it's over for them, at that point there is no longer any worth in worrying and trying not to die.
literal tribesmen shit.
not knocking it though. it probably works.
Didn't do this? Like literally digging their own graves?
trenches
I wouldn't wish a life in Russia even for my worst enemy
Even for the Russians?
Most soldiers don't have to do this. You already know. Everything is calm when doing your job.
Hahahaha what a bunch of lemings
There's the rumour in my country that Army spec ops get a puppy to raise when they start training. They're supposed to take care of it, feed it, etc. Then a year later they're told to kill it by slitting its throat, so that the soldiers are unflinchingly loyal. Doubt it's real though, people make up all sorts of shit to paint the military as something super evil.
Which part of the Q course is that?
Supposedly it's something that's done throughout selection, which is another reason of why I think it's bullshit.
are you astapori by chance?
>astapori
what?
Game of Thrones reference
GRRM was referencing an ancient legend about SF training, zoomzoom
so did Kingsman fyi
On one hand sounds kinda goofy. On the other hand - you might as well train and get some conditioning.
Instead of the shit that Puccians do. I.e. get assraped, drink yourself blind, get beaten to shit by chechen barrier forces, get locked up in a basement for days as torture etc...
My money's still on Ukies.
Wow so hardcore, such elite, woah.
Do they really think this Eastern special forces tough guy bullshit impresses westerners? It reminds of that bullshit shovel throwing the Russian alpha group use to do, pure theatrics.
>Does not fearing death make you perform better on the battlefield?
No. What makes you perform better on the battlefield is not fearlessness, it's dispassion and cold blood.
F.e. even if you don't fear the enemy nor death and you see your squadmate/friend killed, if you are not dispassionate about it, you might be tempted to rush to his side (as you don't fear for yourself) exposing yourself to getting killed. If that happens, then what good did fearlessness do for you. Whereas, if you are dispassionate about it, then you are less likely to do something irrational and counterproductive.
Controlling your emotions, putting them in a box when you do battle is far more useful then feeling fearless.
Apparently this is a Soviet thing in general. There's an old video of Graham Phillips showing the DNR Vostok Battalion doing the exact same burial training
African tier theatrics. Like those VDV guys doing flips and chucking shovels over each others heads.
Agreed.
As if,backflips and knife throwing at the same time,would be applicable on the front line:-)
Pigs frequently cover themselves in dirt and mud. What's the big deal?
I know french GIGN use to do do crazy shit like that.
They might want to try P Coy.
Just saying.
bump just so this thread stays alive for 7 whole days. happy birthday lil nigga
7 more days anon, you and me will keep it alive
so its you two homosexuals, lets this thread die so we can have a better Ukraine thread.
sage