Does an ar-15 make a home invasion gunfight unfair?
https://rightnewsnow.org/2022/10/19/grandfather-of-oklahoma-teen-killed-by-homeowner-in-burglary-says-ar-15-made-for-unfair-fight/
Does an ar-15 make a home invasion gunfight unfair?
https://rightnewsnow.org/2022/10/19/grandfather-of-oklahoma-teen-killed-by-homeowner-in-burglary-says-ar-15-made-for-unfair-fight/
Why should a home invader be treated fairly?
Life should really be about fair fights. Like, if a midget wants to rob you, you should get on your knees and fight him off from there.
Oddjob is cheating
Oddjob is a headshot magnet
>Like, if a midget wants to rob you, you should get on your knees and fight him off from there.
That would be pretty based, honestly. When someone's at such a massive disadvantage and the stakes are low, it never hurts to give yourself a bit of a handicap.
you gotta watch out for the ones that know how to fight. granted, the "real" dwarves/midgets are too weirdly proportioned, but this guy who is 4'11" has actually trained
people don't know how to fight him because he's too short
>tiny target negates reach
>fast as frick
>center of gravity below your dick
this guy is just a fricking bowling ball of pure manlet rage
Why the frick would you want it to be fair.
I'm not clicking on that shit.
I am tired of these low effort single post, unmeaningful shit threads.
Frick off OP.
>unmeaningful shit threads
99% of /k/ now
>now
Always.
Also, kek @ "unmeaningful". ESL plague out in full force today.
damn bro thats cheating
Why didnt the referee give him a red card?
Yes.
Fair would be a 100% chance of winning since legally and morally these home invaders were entitled to a 0% chance of success.
Since there is a <1% chance of failure with an AR-15, the chances are unfairly skewed in favor of the robbers, even if only by a little bit.
Fair would be all 3 dunderheads vanishing as soon as they broke into his home.
>Fair would be all 3 dunderheads vanishing as soon as they broke into his home.
So a claymore directly at the entrance is required
Mantrap law might interest you
>shocktube supremacy, sweetie.
command detonated
if you could ensure 0 collateral damage and no chance to kill anyone who isn't breaking into your house uninvited without justification, then morally, yes.
>rightnewsnow
>Story from 2017
this is the most pro AR-15 article I've ever seen
I mean, it's a right-wing pro-gun newspaper. They're just reporting that the grandfather of one of the burglars is pissed that his grandson got the death penalty for a simple home invasion robbery.
>you should have given my grandson a fair chance to kill you in your house!
I get unreasonably angry (maybe it's reasonable actually) every time I'm reminded of this moron and the audacity of blaming your son's victim for not allowing your son to victimize them.
Not really a fan of this, some dumb old dude with declining mental function who has to deal with a grandkid (and they don't get many of those these days) being a frickup and now gone pressured for a silly one liner so some webgays can make clickbait and meet another day's quota of ad impressions. OBVIOUSLY it's silly, a shotgun would be just as good that's the point you want to win, "fair" is for sports. And I bet if really pressed he'd admit that. He's just an old man who wishes his grandson hadn't become a failure and then gotten himself killed over something so stupid. I'm not going to go click on some shit spun around that. Frick you OP.
what he said is less about the AR and more of the usual cucked "you shouldn't shoot unarmed home invaders" shit
>3 on 1, late teens/early 20s vs older man
>brass knuckles
Yeah, that wasn't a fair fight. The AR-15 was the equalizer.
That's so fricking based, and efficient as frick,
imagine all the money the defender just saved the country.
>saved up gibsmedats
>no need to prosecute
>no need to house and feed and keep an eye on for many years
>justice n shiet
>not using up education (which failed them anyway)
all this for the price of just a few bullets an an ar-15
>Rule number one:
>There is no such thing as a fair fight.
>Rule number two:
>Never leave your enemy alive to come back and kill you later.
I hate comments sections so much
>Grandfather of oklahoma teen
Everything about this screams urban youth, down to the grandpa being the paternal role.
Shit, in my shithole country south africa, they protect the criminal more than they protect the victim. You pretty much need to be dying before you can protect yourself with a firearm and even then they would try and charge you the victim with discharging a firearm in a public place. Go figure with the commie terrorist government in charge.
You just know that some South African farmer fattens his pigs off of the bodies of farm invaders.
It's funny how in the USA a properly implemented Castle Doctrine benefits a savvy rationally self-interested criminal.
Say a criminal methodically scopes out my place, waits for the family to leave on vacation, and robs the place?
No traps. No barb wire fence. No one home to shoot him. Dogs are all pets and at the kennel. Burglar is safe, we're safe.
Even in an actual home invasion. The intruders goes inside, one gets shot by the home owner, the other runs. In the USA, the home owner probably won't go out to chase down and shoot the survivor.
In South Africa, a farmer has every incentive to be absolutely ruthless in home defense. He might use traps because any intruder who gets caught in them will need to vanish. He has every incentive to hunt down and kill every accomplice when they run.
Complying with SA law risks death or years and prison and financial ruin, it would be unethical for a farmer to allow any intruders to survive.
>Complying with SA law risks death or years and prison and financial ruin, it would be unethical for a farmer to allow any intruders to survive.
Cops dont give a shit about the lives of intruders. They will even tell you to make certain to shoot them inside the house so that there would be less paperwork. Where they will come down on you is if you kill someone and try and conceal the crime by burying the body in your backyard and the victims family starts alerting cops to their family members disappearce and last known whereabouts. Many a farmer has been arrested and jailed for this.
If they break into your house and you kill them, what’s stopping you from just disappearing the body somewhere? Unless South African investigators are top notch and they’re willing to put a lot of resources into investigating disappearance of a criminal?
NTA, but your proposition is based on Western democratic concepts of habeas corpus. no such shit applies in the turd world. in a lawless place like Africa, lawlessness cuts both ways. if you essentially murder somebody and disappear their body; firstly, that somebody's friends will murder you and disappear you; secondly, the police will say "you did it" and toss your ass in prison regardless of "muh proof beyond reasonable doubt"
they don't need top notch investigators. or solid evidence. as the Godfather said: "Suspicion is enough. I have pronounced you guilty."
>AW SHUCKS, MA BOI DINDU NUFFIN, YEEHAW!
White trash really are no better than their Black counterparts.
1/8th white is still a Black person anon.
how the frick does he think the burglary went down?
>I, Hoodlum McWasteofspace of Clan Inbred Iguana, declare a Trial of Possession for the contents of this home. I bid three warriors bearing one knuckleduster and two shanks
>I, Homeowner, bid an AR-15
>That is not fair, you will suffer for your insolence old freebirth scum
>Poorly bargained and done
>2017
How bout you stay on arf.com
I wont lie , I sometimes go there just to read cringe signatures
>teen
Who do these people think they're fooling
Yes, that's why you need to use it. Because you want it to be unfair to your advantage.
>getaway driver charged with 3 counts of 1st degree murder
Nothing gets my wiener rock fricking hard like felony murder rules.
the pieces of trash who got binned.
God I wish I wasn't fricking telepathic
Jerma, John Cena and Yakub were in a gang??
It's just some grandfather mourning his dumbfrick grandkid, even when it's just they got killed it's still understandable he makes a deluded comment.
They are reporting it like "CRIMINAL'S ASSOCIATE WHINES THAT AR-15 FRICKING ANNIHILATES CRIMINALS. THEY DON'T EVEN STAND A CHANCE."
A life or death situation should never be fair. Nobody has consumed enough Spice to have the prescience to determine if a home invaders intentions are as pure as they can possibly be.
>https://rightnewsnow.org/2022/10/19/grandfather-of-oklahoma-teen-killed-by-homeowner-in-burglary-says-ar-15-made-for-unfair-fight/
> Getaway driver who wasn't on the scene of the shooting got charged for 3 counts of 1st degree murder.
Wut?
If you commit a felony and somebody dies as a result of that, that's considered felony murder.
I guess burgers have never heard of the "dangerous adventure" doctrine. Bah, I ain't going to b***h at anything that can land more years at the feet of some c**t who backed a home invasion, not worth it.
>I guess burgers have never heard of the "dangerous adventure" doctrine
I haven't please explain, google isn't coming up with anything.
It wouldn't apply anyways, its a French legal doctrine which states that in dangerous situations which were planned in advance, members of the party are considered to have agreed to wave legal responsibility toward one another based on that danger.
Its more of a civil thing, obviously. The family of the least able rockclimber cannot sue the rest of the expedition if everyone agreed to get to the top of Mount Everest and the c**t died, for example.
It really wouldn't apply to a criminal case like this, in the sense that someone could invoke it in court.
thanks bro
typically felony murder is used to charge accomplices for just being there when one of them kills someone but prosecutors like to pull a funny prank and charge criminals with it when one of their buddies gets blasted by the police.
>typically felony murder is used to charge accomplices for just being there when one of them kills someone
Does "felonly murder" simply stands in for "accessory to" or "aggravation" in other common law systems?
Technically she is fully guilty of being an accessory to manslaugther, one way or another, so if that's all it is then I don't have that much of an issue with it.
in the states that have that type of felony murder it's basically just that you participated in a dangerous illegal action that caused a death. you don't need to have assisted at all or had any intent to commit murder.
example: the bowlcut homosexual who filmed the ahmad arbery killing got a life sentence for felony murder even though he basically just followed them and filmed
>accessory to manslaugther
yeah it sounds like burgerspeak for that
guaranteed this boomer moron also voted for trump cuz muh atf and then didn't give a shit when he banned bump stocks. lel hope your grandson's brass knuckles keep him safe in hell, boomer homosexual.
Life isn't fair.
i mean obviously?
It's any felony that results in any death. So, for example, there was a famous case where a guy was going to burn his business down for the insurance money, but the NYPD caught the guys who were going to do it in the act (they were professional arsonists who the NYPD had been tracking since they got out of prison).
The two detectives went into the gasoline soaked building and somehow accidentally started a fire, so the business owner who hired them was convicted of two counts of murder.
how many fricking times are you gonna delete lol
anyway, under British law (note) the concept of "transferred malice" applies; TL;DR if in the course of intending to harm a person, another person was harmed (e.g. a bystander), then the charge is the same as if the affected person was the intended target.
In this case, the driver was an accomplice to the three boys in causing the two parties to fight, as she assisted them in breaking into the home, armed with (at least) a knuckleduster. Hence she can be charged with either murder or manslaughter, as she contributed knowingly to the circumstances which led to the homeowner shooting them dead.
you can see why this concept is a necessary legal consideration if you refer to 2 Samuel 11.
this is because committing arson that results in death is generally treated as accessory to murder
>Does an ar-15 make a home invasion gunfight unfair?
That's kind of the point innit?
>21 year old mother of three
>has these guys living with her
>immediately calls her friend to confess everything