Does an ar-15 make a home invasion gunfight unfair?

Does an ar-15 make a home invasion gunfight unfair?

https://rightnewsnow.org/2022/10/19/grandfather-of-oklahoma-teen-killed-by-homeowner-in-burglary-says-ar-15-made-for-unfair-fight/

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why should a home invader be treated fairly?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Life should really be about fair fights. Like, if a midget wants to rob you, you should get on your knees and fight him off from there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oddjob is cheating

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oddjob is a headshot magnet

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Like, if a midget wants to rob you, you should get on your knees and fight him off from there.
        That would be pretty based, honestly. When someone's at such a massive disadvantage and the stakes are low, it never hurts to give yourself a bit of a handicap.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you gotta watch out for the ones that know how to fight. granted, the "real" dwarves/midgets are too weirdly proportioned, but this guy who is 4'11" has actually trained

          people don't know how to fight him because he's too short

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tiny target negates reach
            >fast as fuck
            >center of gravity below your dick

            this guy is just a fucking bowling ball of pure manlet rage

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why the fuck would you want it to be fair.
    I'm not clicking on that shit.
    I am tired of these low effort single post, unmeaningful shit threads.
    Fuck off OP.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unmeaningful shit threads
      99% of PrepHole now

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >now
        Always.

        Also, kek @ "unmeaningful". ESL plague out in full force today.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    damn bro thats cheating
    Why didnt the referee give him a red card?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

    Fair would be a 100% chance of winning since legally and morally these home invaders were entitled to a 0% chance of success.

    Since there is a <1% chance of failure with an AR-15, the chances are unfairly skewed in favor of the robbers, even if only by a little bit.

    Fair would be all 3 dunderheads vanishing as soon as they broke into his home.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fair would be all 3 dunderheads vanishing as soon as they broke into his home.
      So a claymore directly at the entrance is required

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mantrap law might interest you

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >shocktube supremacy, sweetie.
          command detonated

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if you could ensure 0 collateral damage and no chance to kill anyone who isn't breaking into your house uninvited without justification, then morally, yes.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rightnewsnow
    >Story from 2017

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is the most pro AR-15 article I've ever seen

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, it's a right-wing pro-gun newspaper. They're just reporting that the grandfather of one of the burglars is pissed that his grandson got the death penalty for a simple home invasion robbery.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you should have given my grandson a fair chance to kill you in your house!
    I get unreasonably angry (maybe it's reasonable actually) every time I'm reminded of this retard and the audacity of blaming your son's victim for not allowing your son to victimize them.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not really a fan of this, some dumb old dude with declining mental function who has to deal with a grandkid (and they don't get many of those these days) being a fuckup and now gone pressured for a silly one liner so some webfags can make clickbait and meet another day's quota of ad impressions. OBVIOUSLY it's silly, a shotgun would be just as good that's the point you want to win, "fair" is for sports. And I bet if really pressed he'd admit that. He's just an old man who wishes his grandson hadn't become a failure and then gotten himself killed over something so stupid. I'm not going to go click on some shit spun around that. Fuck you OP.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what he said is less about the AR and more of the usual cucked "you shouldn't shoot unarmed home invaders" shit

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >3 on 1, late teens/early 20s vs older man
    >brass knuckles
    Yeah, that wasn't a fair fight. The AR-15 was the equalizer.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's so fucking based, and efficient as fuck,
    imagine all the money the defender just saved the country.

    >saved up gibsmedats
    >no need to prosecute
    >no need to house and feed and keep an eye on for many years
    >justice n shiet
    >not using up education (which failed them anyway)

    all this for the price of just a few bullets an an ar-15

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Rule number one:
    >There is no such thing as a fair fight.
    >Rule number two:
    >Never leave your enemy alive to come back and kill you later.

    I hate comments sections so much

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Grandfather of oklahoma teen
    Everything about this screams urban youth, down to the grandpa being the paternal role.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shit, in my shithole country south africa, they protect the criminal more than they protect the victim. You pretty much need to be dying before you can protect yourself with a firearm and even then they would try and charge you the victim with discharging a firearm in a public place. Go figure with the commie terrorist government in charge.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You just know that some South African farmer fattens his pigs off of the bodies of farm invaders.

      It's funny how in the USA a properly implemented Castle Doctrine benefits a savvy rationally self-interested criminal.
      Say a criminal methodically scopes out my place, waits for the family to leave on vacation, and robs the place?
      No traps. No barb wire fence. No one home to shoot him. Dogs are all pets and at the kennel. Burglar is safe, we're safe.

      Even in an actual home invasion. The intruders goes inside, one gets shot by the home owner, the other runs. In the USA, the home owner probably won't go out to chase down and shoot the survivor.

      In South Africa, a farmer has every incentive to be absolutely ruthless in home defense. He might use traps because any intruder who gets caught in them will need to vanish. He has every incentive to hunt down and kill every accomplice when they run.
      Complying with SA law risks death or years and prison and financial ruin, it would be unethical for a farmer to allow any intruders to survive.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Complying with SA law risks death or years and prison and financial ruin, it would be unethical for a farmer to allow any intruders to survive.
        Cops dont give a shit about the lives of intruders. They will even tell you to make certain to shoot them inside the house so that there would be less paperwork. Where they will come down on you is if you kill someone and try and conceal the crime by burying the body in your backyard and the victims family starts alerting cops to their family members disappearce and last known whereabouts. Many a farmer has been arrested and jailed for this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they break into your house and you kill them, what’s stopping you from just disappearing the body somewhere? Unless South African investigators are top notch and they’re willing to put a lot of resources into investigating disappearance of a criminal?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA, but your proposition is based on Western democratic concepts of habeas corpus. no such shit applies in the turd world. in a lawless place like Africa, lawlessness cuts both ways. if you essentially murder somebody and disappear their body; firstly, that somebody's friends will murder you and disappear you; secondly, the police will say "you did it" and toss your ass in prison regardless of "muh proof beyond reasonable doubt"

        they don't need top notch investigators. or solid evidence. as the Godfather said: "SuHispanicion is enough. I have pronounced you guilty."

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AW SHUCKS, MA BOI DINDU NUFFIN, YEEHAW!
    White trash really are no better than their Black counterparts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1/8th white is still a moron anon.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how the fuck does he think the burglary went down?

    >I, Hoodlum McWasteofspace of Clan Inbred Iguana, declare a Trial of Possession for the contents of this home. I bid three warriors bearing one knuckleduster and two shanks
    >I, Homeowner, bid an AR-15
    >That is not fair, you will suffer for your insolence old freebirth scum
    >Poorly bargained and done

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2017
    How bout you stay on arf.com

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wont lie , I sometimes go there just to read cringe signatures

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >teen
    Who do these people think they're fooling

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, that's why you need to use it. Because you want it to be unfair to your advantage.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >getaway driver charged with 3 counts of 1st degree murder
    Nothing gets my cock rock fucking hard like felony murder rules.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the pieces of trash who got binned.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God I wish I wasn't fucking telepathic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jerma, John Cena and Yakub were in a gang??

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just some grandfather mourning his dumbfuck grandkid, even when it's just they got killed it's still understandable he makes a deluded comment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are reporting it like "CRIMINAL'S ASSOCIATE WHINES THAT AR-15 FUCKING ANNIHILATES CRIMINALS. THEY DON'T EVEN STAND A CHANCE."

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A life or death situation should never be fair. Nobody has consumed enough Hispanice to have the prescience to determine if a home invaders intentions are as pure as they can possibly be.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >https://rightnewsnow.org/2022/10/19/grandfather-of-oklahoma-teen-killed-by-homeowner-in-burglary-says-ar-15-made-for-unfair-fight/
    > Getaway driver who wasn't on the scene of the shooting got charged for 3 counts of 1st degree murder.
    Wut?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you commit a felony and somebody dies as a result of that, that's considered felony murder.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess burgers have never heard of the "dangerous adventure" doctrine. Bah, I ain't going to bitch at anything that can land more years at the feet of some cunt who backed a home invasion, not worth it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I guess burgers have never heard of the "dangerous adventure" doctrine
          I haven't please explain, google isn't coming up with anything.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It wouldn't apply anyways, its a French legal doctrine which states that in dangerous situations which were planned in advance, members of the party are considered to have agreed to wave legal responsibility toward one another based on that danger.
            Its more of a civil thing, obviously. The family of the least able rockclimber cannot sue the rest of the expedition if everyone agreed to get to the top of Mount Everest and the cunt died, for example.
            It really wouldn't apply to a criminal case like this, in the sense that someone could invoke it in court.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              thanks bro

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      typically felony murder is used to charge accomplices for just being there when one of them kills someone but prosecutors like to pull a funny prank and charge criminals with it when one of their buddies gets blasted by the police.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >typically felony murder is used to charge accomplices for just being there when one of them kills someone
        Does "felonly murder" simply stands in for "accessory to" or "aggravation" in other common law systems?
        Technically she is fully guilty of being an accessory to manslaugther, one way or another, so if that's all it is then I don't have that much of an issue with it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          in the states that have that type of felony murder it's basically just that you participated in a dangerous illegal action that caused a death. you don't need to have assisted at all or had any intent to commit murder.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            example: the bowlcut gay who filmed the ahmad arbery killing got a life sentence for felony murder even though he basically just followed them and filmed

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >accessory to manslaugther
          yeah it sounds like burgerspeak for that

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    guaranteed this boomer retard also voted for trump cuz muh atf and then didn't give a shit when he banned bump stocks. lel hope your grandson's brass knuckles keep him safe in hell, boomer gay.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Life isn't fair.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i mean obviously?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's any felony that results in any death. So, for example, there was a famous case where a guy was going to burn his business down for the insurance money, but the NYPD caught the guys who were going to do it in the act (they were professional arsonists who the NYPD had been tracking since they got out of prison).

    The two detectives went into the gasoline soaked building and somehow accidentally started a fire, so the business owner who hired them was convicted of two counts of murder.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    how many fucking times are you gonna delete lol
    anyway, under British law (note) the concept of "transferred malice" applies; TL;DR if in the course of intending to harm a person, another person was harmed (e.g. a bystander), then the charge is the same as if the affected person was the intended target.

    In this case, the driver was an accomplice to the three boys in causing the two parties to fight, as she assisted them in breaking into the home, armed with (at least) a knuckleduster. Hence she can be charged with either murder or manslaughter, as she contributed knowingly to the circumstances which led to the homeowner shooting them dead.

    you can see why this concept is a necessary legal consideration if you refer to 2 Samuel 11.

    [...]
    It's any felony that results in any death. So, for example, there was a famous case where a guy was going to burn his business down for the insurance money, but the NYPD caught the guys who were going to do it in the act (they were professional arsonists who the NYPD had been tracking since they got out of prison).

    The two detectives went into the gasoline soaked building and somehow accidentally started a fire, so the business owner who hired them was convicted of two counts of murder.

    this is because committing arson that results in death is generally treated as accessory to murder

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does an ar-15 make a home invasion gunfight unfair?

    That's kind of the point innit?

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >21 year old mother of three
    >has these guys living with her
    >immediately calls her friend to confess everything

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