Do you think bullpups are a failed concept? And is this the best bullpup?

Do you think bullpups are a failed concept? And is this the best bullpup?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No AR pistol grip compatibility
    >No bolt controls for shooting hand
    >Sub 8lbs unloaded lmao
    Yea i'ma keep waiting for the chimp rain vaporware, it's the only Bullpup who DOD is going to give a contract to

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you think bullpups are a failed concept?
    No, though I do think OP sucks wieners 100% of the time. SRS, HTI, and GM6 are all fricking awesome. So are the keltec ones for the price, tons of fun, the survival is a super neat pack gun.
    >And is this the best bullpup?
    Already a thread moron, and the thing isn't even fricking out for like another month or two so we don't know. You don't trust the manufacturer idiot. Even if it's sub-moa to 100yd though and fully reliable it still will only be one of a few good options not "the best" since the RDB-S will remain much lighter, I think even with the stated improvements Tavor probably will still have a better handguard system, etc. It might be good or not.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >immediately references two shitty bullpups

      You seem moronic yourself

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should have said you were just a jobless child and have nothing except a hipoint anon, then I would have known not to distract you from your insatiable lust for dick.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post a single gun you own homosexual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            After you homosexual

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Didn't you just call me a jobless child? Figures that you wouldn't actually have any guns. Now get lost you inbred homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Since you are a jobless child, I figured that you wouldn't actually have any guns. Now get lost you inbred homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No gunz inbred homosexual still seething.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now post yours (you can't)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's it? Want me to continue, brokie?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, I want to see how much shitty bullpups you bought with mom's CC

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >make thread with a leading question
        >accept no alternative answers
        >zero desire to have a discussion

        EVERY
        THREAD
        ON
        THIS
        BOARD

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's real schizoid hours, anon. They're on the level of senile boomers when it comes to refusing to process information that comes from outside of their own head

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Alternatively you could just not have a shit opinion, homosexual.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Armatards copycat makes half of these gay threads. It's insufferable. Report them as the low eff ort threads that they are when you see them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/wcV3X9p.jpg

      Do you think bullpups are a failed concept? And is this the best bullpup?

      uh yeah I used to work at DT and I can tell you it sucked ass. Don't want to say anything too disparaging but I know of at least 1 case where we gaslit some dude into thinking his handloads blew up his gun and he was lucky to not be hurt. Not an engineer, idk why, but I do know the bolts were always real sticky.
      Basically just a gun company for hipster homosexuals, also ran by schizo mormon cultists (kingston clan). The CEO had a secret plantation where he would keep his wives/children, and forbid them from leaving - and b4 you say "based", they practiced incest.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >uh yeah I used to work at DT and I can tell you it sucked ass. Don't want to say anything too disparaging but I know of at least 1 case where we gaslit some dude into thinking his handloads blew up his gun and he was lucky to not be hurt.
        I'm only a random buyer on the other side of the country, but my own warranty experience with them end of 2022 was as close to perfect as it gets. Zero bullshit of any kind, I emailed them and described my problem and asked how to fix it, they instead sent me a return label, paid shipping both ways, fixed it in a few weeks over the holiday season, did some upgrades while they were at it. Dunno if that's improved, if it's somewhat luck of the draw with who you get, or if you're not telling us something and that dude was a known butthole, but while I wasn't happy to need the warranty at all can't say they didn't deliver as well as anyone could expect.
        >also ran by schizo mormon cultists (kingston clan). The CEO had a secret plantation where he would keep his wives/children, and forbid them from leaving - and b4 you say "based", they practiced incest.
        I assume you're the same anon in the other thread: seriously who fricking cares about this irrelevant shit? I used to think it was a proggie woke shit thing to whine about company politics vs the products they made, but last few years have taught me nope, plenty on the right want their identity confirmed too. Which GUN company is pure snow? The israelites are busy genociding as we speak. /k/ loves AKs and cheap russian ammo which is fricking russian with all the corrupt evil that entails. American arms makers have found their way into all sorts of horrendous conflicts. Or played down school shootings or whatever.

        MDR was expensive and had true flaws, and DT did not scale well. That's real. But identity politics shit is fricking stupid.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >just a gun company for hipster homosexuals
          case in point. Weird you'd try to frame a repair send-in as a good thing. Shill?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >give anecdote about warranty not being good
            >noooooo nobody is allowed to say anything else!
            >waahhh it's weird someone who had a good warranty experience would reply with an anecdote that the warranty was indeed good!!
            I understand you've got a massive hateboner here anon but even you should recognize how absolutely fricking moronic you're being. I literally said I wasn't happy to need it, obviously the best thing is to have guns just work and never ever need any repair. But if you do better to have a good warranty than a bad one. You're the one who brought it up in the first place.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Did I ever say anything about the warranty? You have some sort of mental illness, go away.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Did I ever say anything about the warranty?
                Yes you did, right in your post:

                [...]
                uh yeah I used to work at DT and I can tell you it sucked ass. Don't want to say anything too disparaging but I know of at least 1 case where we gaslit some dude into thinking his handloads blew up his gun and he was lucky to not be hurt. Not an engineer, idk why, but I do know the bolts were always real sticky.
                Basically just a gun company for hipster homosexuals, also ran by schizo mormon cultists (kingston clan). The CEO had a secret plantation where he would keep his wives/children, and forbid them from leaving - and b4 you say "based", they practiced incest.

                >but I know of at least 1 case where we gaslit some dude into thinking his handloads blew up his gun
                Why did you have his blown up gun in at DT? Did you secretly break into his house and steal it? No, because the guy you claim to have gaslit sent it in for warranty repair obviously after it failed. Assuming you even actually worked there and didn't just pull that out of your ass.

                Having a chuckle at your embarrassed deflection and projection though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're missing the point, dumbass. The rifle is unsafe, who gives a frick about the warranty.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is no such thing as true neutrality in politics let alone in business. Time to grow up.

          Personally I find their ergonomics poor, theyre heavier than they need to be for what they are, and tbh they’re ugly.

          But if you absolutely need a super long barrel for some ELR application, I can see how it’s the best option. Probably in bolt action though, the autoloading actions increase the LOP too much imo (could just be me, my wingspan is 5’10”)

          And also, one feature bullpups preclude entirely is constant recoil, unless you want like a ~17”+ LOP. Not useful for civilians obv but still. Bullpups can not grow into mag-fed pseudo-LMGs the way conventional rifles can, and probably will.

          >constant recoil
          Completely useless concept for anything but GPMGs, even then it's questionable.
          >mag-fed pseudo-LMGs the way conventional rifles can, and probably will.
          Again, complete nonsense. Rifles are heading in the direction of extreme precision, not increased volume of fire. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and b4 you say "based", they practiced incest.
        GIGA BASED

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the AKB-23 is hot as frick.

    As a civilian none of the tactical shit really matters. I want a high quality and good-looking gun.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >high quality
      look, i think they look really good too but its PSA, youre getting mid quality tops.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not the PSA one, which might not even ever be produced. Man, there's a lot of people who are thinking that.

        https://aandk.llc/akb-23-brn180/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s neat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >L85 if the L85 wasn't a big, ugly, overwight rectangle
      I love it.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bullpups are the Gohan of rifles. They have the highest latent potential, but require much more investment than conventional rifles like Goku and Vegeta.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kid Chichi cutest Chichi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up nerd

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is this different than the MDR?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is the MDR and the MDRX is the MDR. They're just mildly modifying attachments and releasing it with a new name because their customer base are rich and buy the same gun again a few years later like BMW owners.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How is this different than the MDR?
      Like 80 fewer parts, completely redone barrel and receiver system that now is more like the SRS/HTI, bunch of other stuff, apparently new handguard system that is backwards compatible but new ones will be much stiffer. Side eject only now, shaved off like a pound of weight, now the 16" 308 is only 7.4 lbs, which isn't bad for a 30cal rifle. An RFB is 8.1 lbs, and the fatass Tavor 7 is 9 lbs. Only testing will show if their efforts actually worked though.

      It is the MDR and the MDRX is the MDR. They're just mildly modifying attachments and releasing it with a new name because their customer base are rich and buy the same gun again a few years later like BMW owners.

      Why are you shitposting so hard about something you literally know absolutely nothing about you fricking homosexual?

      If electric triggers become popular and enough ammo companies join the concept, I can see a solid bullpup with a crisp trigger.

      MDR and RFB/RDB already have crisp triggers. So do some of the authors with replacement trigger packs. That's a solved problem no electronics required, though electric triggers could shave some more weight and allow other interesting design changes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >something you literally know absolutely nothing about
        So how many iterations of the same plastic gun did you buy?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When all you millenoomer grandpas die off the bullpup era will be in full swing. Go listen to classical music like Lincoln Park and shoot your cowboy guns lmao.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pinnacle battle rifle in 6.5CM.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If electric triggers become popular and enough ammo companies join the concept, I can see a solid bullpup with a crisp trigger.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bullpups are probably the future of infantry rifles. But, they're not the future of 5.56.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The quadstack polymer 6mm ARC concept was interesting. Though would have been more so if DT had actually followed through and built it for the WLVRN.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        6mm max, not ARC.

        and yeah that's much more appealing than the Army's 7mm-08 +P+

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and yeah that's much more appealing than the Army's 7mm-08 +P+
          What? It's way more appealing, it's basically ideal, and it drops into the AR without any of the problems of the ARC or Valkyrie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      5.56 is not the future and that's obvious at this point.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't failed quite yet, the X95s seem to be very comfy in Gaza so far.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only good ones from a conceptual standpoint are the Keltecs with their downwards eject.
    All the others are moronic.
    It is a failed concept because only one company ever tried to make one correctly.

    Even the forward ejection MDRX sucked because you're still kissing the ejection port and breathing in all those exhaust gases as you shoot off-hand.
    Just stopping the brass from beating into your face isn't enough. You have to get the gases away from the shooter's face too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. If they made a QD cover for the chamber instead of small screws clearing malfunctions would be a breeze. It's definitely the best concept on paper, it would just need to have a couple thousand PVTs to field it and find out all the common failure points and have it fixed from there.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Failed? No. Inferior to the standard AR-pattern layout? Yes.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I find their ergonomics poor, theyre heavier than they need to be for what they are, and tbh they’re ugly.

    But if you absolutely need a super long barrel for some ELR application, I can see how it’s the best option. Probably in bolt action though, the autoloading actions increase the LOP too much imo (could just be me, my wingspan is 5’10”)

    And also, one feature bullpups preclude entirely is constant recoil, unless you want like a ~17”+ LOP. Not useful for civilians obv but still. Bullpups can not grow into mag-fed pseudo-LMGs the way conventional rifles can, and probably will.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And also, one feature bullpups preclude entirely is constant recoil, unless you want like a ~17”+ LOP. Not useful for civilians obv but still
      Fun fact: AUG HBAR has better burst shot accuracy than FN Minimi.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like my X95 a lot. Easy ergos and is a decent suppressor host when matched up with a flow suppressor. I took it to a dynamic movements class yesterday and it was a pleasure to use.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What optics set up you got on yours? I went lpvo and now I wish I went red dot + magnifier. love me israelite gun. simple as.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but I love acog + rmr on mine

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn that would be a sweet combo too. acog is money tbh.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I use an aimpoint T2 and I have a Vortex micro 6X to toss on it as well but i need the unity riser first. The frickhuge riser is for use with NODs, to clear my LAM, and to make gas mask shooting easier

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cool setup dawg. I don't even have a light on my rig yet. Just the sling and optics. How you liking the holosun IR?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's alright, unfortunately I'm still pretty new to the NVG scene but it works and has worked flawlessly in the one night vision shooting class I took it to. Hopefully as time goes on I can get a few other lasers to put it up against besides my TLR VIR II which barely qualifies

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a perfectly find rifle, unless you ever need to go prone.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My PC is a pieced together cobble of shit that works pretty well but does cause discomfort in my left shoulder specifically. It's balanced pretty well and I'm not sure how to alleviate the pressure point. Should I get better shoulder pads or try re distributing the weight?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >LVRN & SHRLY

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bullpups exist for a very specific niche. You want a long rifle in a shorter package and are willing to give up ergonomics to achieve that end. Basically every bullpup that was adopted was made because of mechanized infantry needing a full size rifle in a smaller package. Nowadays militaries are more or less moving away from that as it is deemed not worth it
    ironically because of the NFA it kind of has a civilian niche

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely not. As for bestpup, we will never have her but mines pretty good

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bullpups are not a failed concept, they are proven to be an effective weapons platform and offer a lot of pros over traditional arms. They face three major drawbacks:

    1.They have a different manual of arms that people refuse to learn

    2. the looks can be subjective (This is important you know im right)

    3. They lack rail space for restards to put laser and shit they will never use.

    Triggers are fine, and they handle better than regular rifles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the case of the RDB, the stock trigger absolutely takes a fat steaming dookie dump on even enhanced milspec triggers for ARs. They're really that good IMO

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m only interested in the Desert Tech or Senex bullpups unless somebody can resurrect and unfrick the F2000 but that’s just for a Halo LARP

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say they're failures when people ultimately stop giving a shit about them and imo that seems to be on the horizon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when people ultimately stop giving a shit about them and imo that seems to be on the horizon.
      LMAO, people said the same thing about battle rifles for decades. Yet, here we are with the army adopting a new battle rifle and .308 battle rifle offerings for civilians are higher than ever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think anyone ever said that people would stop giving a shit about semi automatic full power rifles.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish someone would make the shortest possible OAL 300BLK bullpup with a top of the line suppressor under the handguard. Make it as compact and lightweight as possible.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate it when they leave out letters. cringe af

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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