This, all their targets are from old intel. Like pre collapse old. I mean did you honestly think after everything they could gather the information on anything currently on Ukraine?
It makes me wonder. I live a few miles from a decommissioned missile silo that’s a park now…I bet the fucking Russians have it as a target still. Fuck me
I'm super partial to the SS-24 booster idea, but we'll see in the morning. They're SRBs, so they'll have the same "burning chunks of propellant flying everywhere" effect a S-300 would, but on a massive scale.
Also, two more points might be useful; picrel is Pavlohrad city administration saying there's no chemical danger from what happened, which points again most likely to old rockets/fuel, and Ukrzaliznitsya haven't reported any train cancellations or delays (which would have happened if Puccia had hit railway infra).
>you hear hoof beats >you know there is a farm with a bunch of horses next door >a known liar tells you it's a herd of zebras
Why are people pretending that the two explanations are equally possible?
Indeed, old ICBM components is a far more likely explanation given the known liar Incel Slave Z(+Readovka) was the first to start with the "16 S-300s" claim yesterday.
I have a feeling Jihadi Julian believes Intel Slava Z instead of the actual evidence.
Can’t even bring myself to look at his retarded Twitter feeds of doomposting.
>Uhmm akshually it was only old rocket fuel from some old useless missiles, no harm done at all
Don't tell me anyone falls for this shit. Ukraine frequently lies and downplays their losses. It was a regular ammo dump, not some exotic soviet trash.
it was geolocated in the last thread.
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Also, two more points might be useful; picrel is Pavlohrad city administration saying there's no chemical danger from what happened, which points again most likely to old rockets/fuel, and Ukrzaliznitsya haven't reported any train cancellations or delays (which would have happened if Puccia had hit railway infra).
I fucking don't know. I just wanna see dead Ziggers and Ukraine get most of its territory back >crimea can be kept but will be funny if russians abandoooon it
Ukraine is part of the Bolshevik asiatic horde. They were one of the core races of the Soviet Union. Up until February last year people known them as the exact same eastern european gipsy criminal pedophile organ traders as the Russians.
I understand you are deliberately dishonest with contempt for any concept of truth, kindness or morals in general but I'm going to educate you regardless: Ukraine is currently attacked exactly because it chose NOT to be part of that disease. You would do well to look up to Ukraine, emulate Ukraine and respect Ukraine.
I don't think it's there or pic related would place the explosion behind the large building on the left. It's the part of that plant that's further East.
>https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1653008029669883905
These fucking retards actually hit a bunch of decomissioned ICBM boosters and probably vaporized a few civilian employees. For fucks sake.
Russian Ministry of Defense reported succcesfull strikes on "Industrial facilities involved in production of ammo, weapons and other equipment for UAF"
No, it's not in the same area. The fuel from icbms was indeed used to manufacture warheads and new fuel for Vilkha, Stugna, Igla, etc., but it's not the only way to manufacture it. moskals hit just the storage area, the biggest damage after this is environmental
>Puccian ministry of defense reports anything
I too believe the people who say they destroyed 3000 bayraktars and put it in a separate line of their cope statistics and bradleys even before they came to Ukraine
So from the spam and the attack its safe to assume
1: russia mad about them getting their oil storage place blown up, crippling them
2: they amassed whatever they could as a terror revange for it, which we are seeing now
3: sadly their cyber warfare offices are still intact, as we getting spammed still
4: whatever they hit is paraded around as giant victory, just as how that gepard video was hyped up as something great, and ended up as a wet fart
Lets see how this plays out
>Did they stop worshipping their past war criminals like Russians do?
Bandera is the white man's hero. >Did they stop opressing their minorities?
Hopefully not.
No. The location is where they were storing old ICBM fuel. For it to have been many S-300s requires that we believe that Ukraine decided to park a huge amount of irreplaceable AD assets next to a known explosion hazard. Why the fuck would they do that?
I was skeptical of the rocket explanation at first but people have posted newspaper articles about residents and enviornmentslists angry about the explosion and leak risk of the aging facility from before the war even began.
This was a target that Russia knew would make a very large explosion. It wasn't hit earlier because it isn't militarily useful. People saying "oh well old solid fuel cells for very old Soviet ICBMs was valuable because it could be converted into S-300 missiles," are dumb.
These things had one possible use. You could restore them, incredibly expensive likely, and fire them at targets deep in Moscow.
This is highly unlikely to have been considered due to cost and because the type of rocket we're talking about could easily be misinterpret by Russia as "holy fuck, Ukraine secretly kept some nukes and is hitting Moscow!" and precipitate a disaster.
Old ICBMs has terrible accuracy. They needed such powerful warheads because they couldn't be counted in to hit shit. This is why the Saudis' acquisition of East Wind missiles from China was such a huge deal despite them having conventional warheads. The things are fucking usefulness with conventional warheads. They are useful because they can hit Tehran very quickly. It was basically the Saudis buying the missile part of a nuclear package for if they every got the warhead component.
Also, it's obvious why they hit a useless target that would nonetheless make a big boom. They have egg on their face due to the oil storage explosion and wanted a big explosion in Ukraine. Hence this and the allegedly failed missile strikes at the same time. It's a retaliation.
Both sides are using long range assets to do tit for tat retaliations. But then they obviously also use them to hit real strategic targets. It's part strategic strikes, part costly signaling to get the other side to be warry if doing such strikes.
You'll note that when Ukraine took out the building full of Russian soldiers Russia did a very large missile barrage a few days later and then claimed they had hit their own building full of Ukrainian soldiers. No evidence of this being true ever materialized even with pro-Russian German journalists trying to prove it, but they did level a building.
No. The location is where they were storing old ICBM fuel. For it to have been many S-300s requires that we believe that Ukraine decided to park a huge amount of irreplaceable AD assets next to a known explosion hazard. Why the fuck would they do that?
I was skeptical of the rocket explanation at first but people have posted newspaper articles about residents and enviornmentslists angry about the explosion and leak risk of the aging facility from before the war even began.
This was a target that Russia knew would make a very large explosion. It wasn't hit earlier because it isn't militarily useful. People saying "oh well old solid fuel cells for very old Soviet ICBMs was valuable because it could be converted into S-300 missiles," are dumb.
These things had one possible use. You could restore them, incredibly expensive likely, and fire them at targets deep in Moscow.
This is highly unlikely to have been considered due to cost and because the type of rocket we're talking about could easily be misinterpret by Russia as "holy fuck, Ukraine secretly kept some nukes and is hitting Moscow!" and precipitate a disaster.
Old ICBMs has terrible accuracy. They needed such powerful warheads because they couldn't be counted in to hit shit. This is why the Saudis' acquisition of East Wind missiles from China was such a huge deal despite them having conventional warheads. The things are fucking usefulness with conventional warheads. They are useful because they can hit Tehran very quickly. It was basically the Saudis buying the missile part of a nuclear package for if they every got the warhead component.
So it's complicated pidor propaganda effort intended to save face and nothing more? Sounds right on brand
Yeah, mostly. Obviously it might demoralize Ukrainians. Probably not though. All evidence is that strategic bombing only hardens resolve. It did with the Blitz on England, it did with the bombings on Germany, it did for Japan, and Vietnam.
Strategic bombing only collapsed morale when the bombing was on an apocalyptic scale, like the ashing of Dresden, the Tokyo fire storm, the nukes the US used, etc. Germany did actually consider surrendering over Dresden but then the allies stopped doing that sort of thing because it was considered too far.
If you can't ash an entire major city in a night then all you are doing is war crimes just to do war crimes.
Have you heard of a hybrid where you fire an interceptor at a missile and then the interceptor has a laser on it? That seems like it would drastically up interception because now your terminal stage is moving at the speed of light.
No laser is going to be effective at huge distances this century, but one fired from a missile that has closed the gap seems plausible.
IDK, I always heard that the solar powered lasers in satalites thing was absolutely physically possible and also do technologically beyond anything possible as to be fantasy. The way a friend put it was "if we could do that we could beam down solar power efficiently enough to end any need for Russia's gas, which would be more relevant to ending the threat anyhow." I guess some companies are already sending power down from satalites in California. I don't totally understand it. I wonder if this could be a way to charge drones when they are deployed? Have big receiver/battery vehicles you juice up with satalite beams. Why build a fusion reactor when you can use the gigantic free fusion reactor in the sky, right?
>hit an old fuel processing plant for ballistic missiles
>surely it must be missiles cooking off
This, all their targets are from old intel. Like pre collapse old. I mean did you honestly think after everything they could gather the information on anything currently on Ukraine?
It makes me wonder. I live a few miles from a decommissioned missile silo that’s a park now…I bet the fucking Russians have it as a target still. Fuck me
I'm super partial to the SS-24 booster idea, but we'll see in the morning. They're SRBs, so they'll have the same "burning chunks of propellant flying everywhere" effect a S-300 would, but on a massive scale.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652912991300382720
seems like it
And how does that tweet confirms it?
Someone far more autistic than me can geoloc those, but that post doesn't prove anything otherwise.
it was geolocated in another thread
it was geolocated in the last thread.
Also, two more points might be useful; picrel is Pavlohrad city administration saying there's no chemical danger from what happened, which points again most likely to old rockets/fuel, and Ukrzaliznitsya haven't reported any train cancellations or delays (which would have happened if Puccia had hit railway infra).
Indirectly it's a hit on Ukrainian capabilities, since they were dismantling the solid fuel to use in new missiles.
Yeah, solid fuel doesn't work like that.
>you hear hoof beats
>you know there is a farm with a bunch of horses next door
>a known liar tells you it's a herd of zebras
Why are people pretending that the two explanations are equally possible?
Indeed, old ICBM components is a far more likely explanation given the known liar Incel Slave Z(+Readovka) was the first to start with the "16 S-300s" claim yesterday.
I mean if you can't trust him, who can you trust?
Much obliged.
I have a feeling Jihadi Julian believes Intel Slava Z instead of the actual evidence.
Can’t even bring myself to look at his retarded Twitter feeds of doomposting.
hilarious how they inflicted a "catastrophic" hit on the air defense capabilities followed by a completely flaccid missile barrage
Not enough with two separate threads that are still up, but retards have to keep spamming.
The smoker, he has returned
>Uhmm akshually it was only old rocket fuel from some old useless missiles, no harm done at all
Don't tell me anyone falls for this shit. Ukraine frequently lies and downplays their losses. It was a regular ammo dump, not some exotic soviet trash.
see
now fuck off
Besides, Ukraine needs all the exotic Soviet trash they can get anyway
Cope, your military is a complete joke
remember when russians bombarded firework warehouse in Kharkiv? And then reported that they destroyed ukrainian ammo depo?I remember
> It was a regular ammo dump, not some exotic soviet trash.
you could just fuckin google it
This entire war is being fought with exotic Soviet trash
I fucking don't know. I just wanna see dead Ziggers and Ukraine get most of its territory back
>crimea can be kept but will be funny if russians abandoooon it
Ukraine is part of the Bolshevik asiatic horde. They were one of the core races of the Soviet Union. Up until February last year people known them as the exact same eastern european gipsy criminal pedophile organ traders as the Russians.
>pretends 2014 never occurred
>2014 never happened
die
I understand you are deliberately dishonest with contempt for any concept of truth, kindness or morals in general but I'm going to educate you regardless: Ukraine is currently attacked exactly because it chose NOT to be part of that disease. You would do well to look up to Ukraine, emulate Ukraine and respect Ukraine.
False. It’s being attacked because they were working with the US and other Western powers to cut Russian gas to Europe.
So even in your twisted subhuman worldview, they're striving to dissociate themselves with subhumans? Good.
>white people will not be brutalized
>t. Bandera, who brutalized white people
>muh bandera
He’s literally in the pic
Past crimes need to be recognized, but they will not be justification to allow more crimes to be carried out today.
Vatmorons and garden gnomes aren't white.
>stalin did nothing wrong
>bandera bandera bandera
lel
from the 'ru
Location filmed/Chemical plant
I don't think it's there or pic related would place the explosion behind the large building on the left. It's the part of that plant that's further East.
New angle just dropped
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1653008029669883905
that should put the speculation to rest then. Puccia flopped again.
this tells us nothing piggers
>piggers
Hahaha hahaha
>https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1653008029669883905
These fucking retards actually hit a bunch of decomissioned ICBM boosters and probably vaporized a few civilian employees. For fucks sake.
Russian Ministry of Defense reported succcesfull strikes on "Industrial facilities involved in production of ammo, weapons and other equipment for UAF"
Case closed, i guess
Wait, did they also hit the plant which manufactures Hrim-2 missiles? It's in the same area.
>Russian Ministry of Defense reported
No, it's not in the same area. The fuel from icbms was indeed used to manufacture warheads and new fuel for Vilkha, Stugna, Igla, etc., but it's not the only way to manufacture it. moskals hit just the storage area, the biggest damage after this is environmental
Thank fuck.
>Puccian ministry of defense reports anything
I too believe the people who say they destroyed 3000 bayraktars and put it in a separate line of their cope statistics and bradleys even before they came to Ukraine
https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/features-51220344
BBC wrote an article about the solid fuel dump in 2020, so I think its pretty much confirmed its not just ukrainian wishful thinking.
I heard from my comrade that this was 200 Ukrainian biolabs going up in flames
So from the spam and the attack its safe to assume
1: russia mad about them getting their oil storage place blown up, crippling them
2: they amassed whatever they could as a terror revange for it, which we are seeing now
3: sadly their cyber warfare offices are still intact, as we getting spammed still
4: whatever they hit is paraded around as giant victory, just as how that gepard video was hyped up as something great, and ended up as a wet fart
Lets see how this plays out
Oh no, not the poor minorities. Gotta do something about them... with dem programs.
>Did they stop worshipping their past war criminals like Russians do?
Bandera is the white man's hero.
>Did they stop opressing their minorities?
Hopefully not.
Post skin ESL
NOBODY deserves having the Russians inflicted upon them.
Not even the Russians themselves.
>Not even the Russians themselves.
They do.
>They do.
I'm not (yet) THAT heartless, anon.
No. The location is where they were storing old ICBM fuel. For it to have been many S-300s requires that we believe that Ukraine decided to park a huge amount of irreplaceable AD assets next to a known explosion hazard. Why the fuck would they do that?
I was skeptical of the rocket explanation at first but people have posted newspaper articles about residents and enviornmentslists angry about the explosion and leak risk of the aging facility from before the war even began.
This was a target that Russia knew would make a very large explosion. It wasn't hit earlier because it isn't militarily useful. People saying "oh well old solid fuel cells for very old Soviet ICBMs was valuable because it could be converted into S-300 missiles," are dumb.
These things had one possible use. You could restore them, incredibly expensive likely, and fire them at targets deep in Moscow.
This is highly unlikely to have been considered due to cost and because the type of rocket we're talking about could easily be misinterpret by Russia as "holy fuck, Ukraine secretly kept some nukes and is hitting Moscow!" and precipitate a disaster.
Old ICBMs has terrible accuracy. They needed such powerful warheads because they couldn't be counted in to hit shit. This is why the Saudis' acquisition of East Wind missiles from China was such a huge deal despite them having conventional warheads. The things are fucking usefulness with conventional warheads. They are useful because they can hit Tehran very quickly. It was basically the Saudis buying the missile part of a nuclear package for if they every got the warhead component.
Also, it's obvious why they hit a useless target that would nonetheless make a big boom. They have egg on their face due to the oil storage explosion and wanted a big explosion in Ukraine. Hence this and the allegedly failed missile strikes at the same time. It's a retaliation.
Both sides are using long range assets to do tit for tat retaliations. But then they obviously also use them to hit real strategic targets. It's part strategic strikes, part costly signaling to get the other side to be warry if doing such strikes.
You'll note that when Ukraine took out the building full of Russian soldiers Russia did a very large missile barrage a few days later and then claimed they had hit their own building full of Ukrainian soldiers. No evidence of this being true ever materialized even with pro-Russian German journalists trying to prove it, but they did level a building.
So it's complicated pidor propaganda effort intended to save face and nothing more? Sounds right on brand
Yeah, mostly. Obviously it might demoralize Ukrainians. Probably not though. All evidence is that strategic bombing only hardens resolve. It did with the Blitz on England, it did with the bombings on Germany, it did for Japan, and Vietnam.
Strategic bombing only collapsed morale when the bombing was on an apocalyptic scale, like the ashing of Dresden, the Tokyo fire storm, the nukes the US used, etc. Germany did actually consider surrendering over Dresden but then the allies stopped doing that sort of thing because it was considered too far.
If you can't ash an entire major city in a night then all you are doing is war crimes just to do war crimes.
>all you are doing is war crimes just to do war crimes.
That has kinda been the Russian MO since the 1940s-onwards.
Have you heard of a hybrid where you fire an interceptor at a missile and then the interceptor has a laser on it? That seems like it would drastically up interception because now your terminal stage is moving at the speed of light.
No laser is going to be effective at huge distances this century, but one fired from a missile that has closed the gap seems plausible.
IDK, I always heard that the solar powered lasers in satalites thing was absolutely physically possible and also do technologically beyond anything possible as to be fantasy. The way a friend put it was "if we could do that we could beam down solar power efficiently enough to end any need for Russia's gas, which would be more relevant to ending the threat anyhow." I guess some companies are already sending power down from satalites in California. I don't totally understand it. I wonder if this could be a way to charge drones when they are deployed? Have big receiver/battery vehicles you juice up with satalite beams. Why build a fusion reactor when you can use the gigantic free fusion reactor in the sky, right?
rip remaining* AD uki had left, HUGE BLOW without it le spring offensive is doomed from start....
I didn't know decommissioned ICBM boosters was air defence now
They hit old SS-24 booster stores in the area. Going by the video angles
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1653008025123209219/photo/1