can you imagine his level of shitposting if he'd be around today? man was basically PrepHole + PrepHole + PrepHole + /misc/ but also somewhat PrepHole if you consider his football years and /k/ for his navy days
What do you consider "survival" gear? is just basic stuff to carry. But if you mean stuff like snares, fishing line, saws etc. on a hiking or camping trip that's just larp .
not OP but what's LARP gear since we're at it? I'm going to make a list, divide LARP from non LARP in a multiple day hike >SAK/multitool >just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP >fixed knife, ~10cm blade >fixed knife, ~20cm blade >small folding saw >a small hatchet >water canteen >water bladder >some kind of mess kit to cook with >actual pots and pans >portable grill >alcohol stove >wood sticks stove >cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP) >small fishing kit >water filter >firesteel >matches in dry container >bic lighter >zippo lighter >zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag >FAK but it's only booboos and blisters >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc >coffee or tea, ground or leaves >coffee or tea, soluble >e-tool >torch >headlamp >lantern >canned food >dried food >MREs >energy snacks >a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck >a whistle >a mirror >a compass (analog) >a map >trekking poles >some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book >spare clothes >a poncho >a rain jacket / shell >a backpack cover >fishing tackle >flint and steel >sharpening stone >space blanket >more than one space blanket >flares like the ones in The Thing >those snappy glowing sticks >binoculars >ghillie suit >machete
LARPing is more of a mindset rather than something you can assign to items. A machete for example could be a practical tool in some situations. However, 90% of people don't need it and carry one for LARP purposes only. Here's a good rule of thumb, if you expect to use it and there isn't a more practical alternative, then it's not a LARP.
Obviously you can’t carry everything together, but you could carry any of those items without larping if you have a use for it. It’s hard to imagine how you would be using a ghillie suit without larping though.
>if you expect to use it and there isn't a more practical alternative, then it's not a LARP.
So either I expect to get injured, or carrying a medical kit is a larp. Thanks for gracing us with your wisdom.
You guys will knitpick anything. Your first aid kit should be able to deal with injuries that could reasonably happen.
>if you expect to use it and there isn't a more practical alternative, then it's not a LARP.
So either I expect to get injured, or carrying a medical kit is a larp. Thanks for gracing us with your wisdom.
Also, there’s nothing wrong with larping if you’re having a good time. It’s fine to carry a Crocodile Dundee knife even though you have no real need for it.
>Also, there’s nothing wrong with larping if you’re having a good time. It’s fine to carry a Crocodile Dundee knife even though you have no real need for it.
Thanks anon this is exactly what I wanted to hear... Yes... HAHAHAHA... YES!
I was a canadian ranger for over 5 years, basically a professionally larper. I have expertise in this. These are larp tier: >fixed knife, ~20cm blade
A small folding knife will do the same work of a huge Rambo knife 99% of the time. The only things a big knife does better than a little knife is things that other tools are much better at. An opinel won't batony chop chop wood, open a can of beans, or stab a hobo as well as a rambo knife, but if you have to do those tasks regularly there are better tools for the job. >actual pots and pans
Anything you can't cook in a cup or on a stick is probably better off left at home. Our patrol always brought normal pots and pans, but we always had an ATV, Snowmobile, truck, boat or helicopter to do the heavy lifting, you probably don't. >portable grill
Same as above, you can nig rig something easy enough. >cordage
The only time it is a larp is when it's coiled in a bracelet or on a knife handle, it is infinitely useful. Learn knots and use them regularly. it is a skill that expires quickly. An example: 3 separate very intelligent, blue collared men forgot how to do a clove hitch, and the fisherman that definitely knew was out sick. Protip: the best knot is actually just wrapping around a tree a few times and tying off the slack, friction does all the work for you and doesn't weaken the rope/cordage like a regular knot. >firesteel
Look into your heart, you all know it to be true. I still carry one anyways, but I hope I will never have to use one in earnest. >zippo lighter
Terrible lighters, overly heavy, expensive, and get mogged by cheap bics and USB lighters. I won't think you're a LARPer if you carry one, I'll just think you're a chain smoker. >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
Depends on the context, if you're a yuropoor with no predators or drunk hunters, you probably won't need one. It's better to err on the side of caution anyways, first aid kits won't be larps unless you have the Punisher skull on it.
not OP but what's LARP gear since we're at it? I'm going to make a list, divide LARP from non LARP in a multiple day hike >SAK/multitool >just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP >fixed knife, ~10cm blade >fixed knife, ~20cm blade >small folding saw >a small hatchet >water canteen >water bladder >some kind of mess kit to cook with >actual pots and pans >portable grill >alcohol stove >wood sticks stove >cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP) >small fishing kit >water filter >firesteel >matches in dry container >bic lighter >zippo lighter >zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag >FAK but it's only booboos and blisters >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc >coffee or tea, ground or leaves >coffee or tea, soluble >e-tool >torch >headlamp >lantern >canned food >dried food >MREs >energy snacks >a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck >a whistle >a mirror >a compass (analog) >a map >trekking poles >some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book >spare clothes >a poncho >a rain jacket / shell >a backpack cover >fishing tackle >flint and steel >sharpening stone >space blanket >more than one space blanket >flares like the ones in The Thing >those snappy glowing sticks >binoculars >ghillie suit >machete
>e-tool
You don't need to dig trenches on a day hike. They're such a big larp even the professional larpers made fun of me for bringing one. If you're just going to dig a hole to poop in, the aluminum or titanium scoops are a much better option. >lantern
If it's the heavy gas powered ones, yes that is a larp, if it's a light, collapsible LED one it's not. >survival manual
If it's a digital copy on your phone, there's no reason not to take it, but taking a physical book outdoors is kind of silly. >flint and steel
Even more of a larp than fire steel. >sharpening stone
If you have to sharpen your knife during a multi day outing, you should probably cut back on scraping your knife against rocks and hobo bones. >flares like the one in The Thing
Very bright and can start a fire in a pinch, but heavy and expensive. I don't think a single sound minded person takes them on hikes. >glowsticks
Light tech has really come far in the past 20 years, glowsticks are completely obsolete, don't bring a plastic stick full of weird chemicals into the woods, maybe it's worth keeping one for emergencies, but don't use them regularly. >binoculars
If you're just bird watching or a pervert scoping out chicks it's fine, but you don't really need one for a hike. >ghillie suit
The larpiest thing ever, you don't need it unless you're trying to kill someone. >machete
If you're hiking on an established trail you don't really need it. If you're a psychopath that doesn't use trails you probably aren't worried about hippie hipsters calling you a larper.
I'm not saying don't get any of those things, or you're LARPer for having them, (I have most of the things on this list), just that you probably don't need them for the average weekend hike. Man I miss my boomerwaffen frens, too bad Canada got so gay.
>buy a lighter and a can of butane
or >buy a lighter and a solar panel that can charge gadgets and the lighter
Pick one, or pick both, I don't care.
If you think zippos are cool because they engraved your favorite car brand or you tricked them into engraving a horribly racist meme that is based, but it doesn't mean it's the best option.
I'm the guy who made the list and I meant fuel zippos, so he got it right. I didn't even know they made butane inserts.
[...] >e-tool
You don't need to dig trenches on a day hike. They're such a big larp even the professional larpers made fun of me for bringing one. If you're just going to dig a hole to poop in, the aluminum or titanium scoops are a much better option. >lantern
If it's the heavy gas powered ones, yes that is a larp, if it's a light, collapsible LED one it's not. >survival manual
If it's a digital copy on your phone, there's no reason not to take it, but taking a physical book outdoors is kind of silly. >flint and steel
Even more of a larp than fire steel. >sharpening stone
If you have to sharpen your knife during a multi day outing, you should probably cut back on scraping your knife against rocks and hobo bones. >flares like the one in The Thing
Very bright and can start a fire in a pinch, but heavy and expensive. I don't think a single sound minded person takes them on hikes. >glowsticks
Light tech has really come far in the past 20 years, glowsticks are completely obsolete, don't bring a plastic stick full of weird chemicals into the woods, maybe it's worth keeping one for emergencies, but don't use them regularly. >binoculars
If you're just bird watching or a pervert scoping out chicks it's fine, but you don't really need one for a hike. >ghillie suit
The larpiest thing ever, you don't need it unless you're trying to kill someone. >machete
If you're hiking on an established trail you don't really need it. If you're a psychopath that doesn't use trails you probably aren't worried about hippie hipsters calling you a larper.
I'm not saying don't get any of those things, or you're LARPer for having them, (I have most of the things on this list), just that you probably don't need them for the average weekend hike. Man I miss my boomerwaffen frens, too bad Canada got so gay.
>They're such a big larp even the professional larpers made fun of me for bringing one.
I love my e-tool, makes such a nice CH-KLACK sound when you unfold the handle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Makes list
Doesn't know what the frick he's talking about
Lol
Lmao even
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Doesn't know what the frick he's talking about
sorry if I am not updated on the latest products, I know that butane lighters exist, just not zippos
>SAK/multitool
depends on the SAK/multitool >just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP
bigger than mine >fixed knife, ~10cm blade
reasonable >fixed knife, ~20cm blade
larp >small folding saw
depends, are you building a shelter? >a small hatchet
larp >water canteen
larp >water bladder
are you in afghanistan? >some kind of mess kit to cook with >actual pots and pans >portable grill >alcohol stove >wood sticks stove >cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP) >small fishing kit >water filter >firesteel >matches in dry container
larp >bic lighter
not larp >zippo lighter >zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag
larp >FAK but it's only booboos and blisters >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
the latter is larp unless you are a soldier or hunting with a party >coffee or tea, ground or leaves >coffee or tea, soluble
on what planet is this larp? >e-tool
larpiest of larps >torch >headlamp
essential >canned food >dried food
not larp >MREs
larp >energy snacks >a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck
not larp >a whistle
larp >a mirror >a compass (analog)
bring a compass with a sighting mirror, if you don't need a compass then you don't need a mirror >a map
essential >trekking poles
depends on your age, how much you carry and where you're going, i'd say larp in most use cases i've seen on PrepHole >some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book
larp >spare clothes
depends on climate and where you are, i bring spare underwear and socks. if i get dirty i don't care, if i get soaked i'm going back to my car >a poncho >a rain jacket / shell >a backpack cover
not larp >fishing tackle
i'm a fisherman >flint and steel >sharpening stone
larp >space blanket
not a larp >more than one space blanket
larp >flares like the ones in The Thing >those snappy glowing sticks >binoculars >ghillie suit >machete
larp
Holy shit what a frickwit well done anon most moronic post I've seen in ages
this is his list with all the "larp" edited out, including "maybe" etc.
what is it missing? not trying to antagonize, I'm interested in having an exchange here >SAK/multitool >just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP >fixed knife, ~10cm blade >small folding saw >bic lighter >FAK but it's only booboos and blisters >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc >coffee or tea, ground or leaves >coffee or tea, soluble >torch >headlamp >canned food >dried food >energy snacks >a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck >a compass (analog) >a map >trekking poles >spare clothes >a poncho >a rain jacket / shell >a backpack cover >fishing tackle >space blanket
2 years ago
Anonymous
>SAK/multitool
depends on the SAK/multitool >just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP
bigger than mine >fixed knife, ~10cm blade
reasonable >fixed knife, ~20cm blade
larp >small folding saw
depends, are you building a shelter? >a small hatchet
larp >water canteen
larp >water bladder
are you in afghanistan? >some kind of mess kit to cook with >actual pots and pans >portable grill >alcohol stove >wood sticks stove >cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP) >small fishing kit >water filter >firesteel >matches in dry container
larp >bic lighter
not larp >zippo lighter >zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag
larp >FAK but it's only booboos and blisters >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
the latter is larp unless you are a soldier or hunting with a party >coffee or tea, ground or leaves >coffee or tea, soluble
on what planet is this larp? >e-tool
larpiest of larps >torch >headlamp
essential >canned food >dried food
not larp >MREs
larp >energy snacks >a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck
not larp >a whistle
larp >a mirror >a compass (analog)
bring a compass with a sighting mirror, if you don't need a compass then you don't need a mirror >a map
essential >trekking poles
depends on your age, how much you carry and where you're going, i'd say larp in most use cases i've seen on PrepHole >some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book
larp >spare clothes
depends on climate and where you are, i bring spare underwear and socks. if i get dirty i don't care, if i get soaked i'm going back to my car >a poncho >a rain jacket / shell >a backpack cover
not larp >fishing tackle
i'm a fisherman >flint and steel >sharpening stone
larp >space blanket
not a larp >more than one space blanket
larp >flares like the ones in The Thing >those snappy glowing sticks >binoculars >ghillie suit >machete
larp
>a small hatchet
Very useful for some situations. If you're making a fire or shelter and can spare the weight, take one. Otherwise a small folding saw can do most of the same jobs.
>small folding saw >depends, are you building a shelter?
moronic take. Small folding saw is the best all-round tool for processing firewood, and you can also use it for clearing trails and blocked waterways.
>water bladder >are you in afghanistan?
Another moronic take. Water bladders are useful in hot/humid conditions when you're on the go
>some kind of mess kit to cook with >actual pots and pans >portable grill >alcohol stove >wood sticks stove >cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP) >small fishing kit >water filter >firesteel >matches in dry container
This is the part where he goes off the rails and exposes that he was dropped on the head as an infant
>a whistle >larp
This is just dumb. Me and my girlfriend always bring a whistle in case we get split up. If you're not on a well marked trail it's very easy to get lost innawoods. Also useful if you break a leg or some shit and can't move. It goes under the same category as a medkit or space blanket. You don't expect to use it but if you ever need it, you'll be glad you have it.
>sharpening stone >larp
Something to keep your blades sharp on a long outing is a really good idea, especially if you're going to be using to process fish or game. Nothing worse than trying to filet a fish or skin an animal with a dull knife.
>binoculars >larp
Apparently wanting to get a closer look at wildlife is a larp, who knew
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Very useful for some situations. If you're making a fire or shelter and can spare the weight, take one. Otherwise a small folding saw can do most of the same jobs.
redundant here in norway. no trails to clear and firewood is breaking dead and dry sticks and branches over your knee >moronic take. Small folding saw is the best all-round tool for processing firewood, and you can also use it for clearing trails and blocked waterways. >Another moronic take. Water bladders are useful in hot/humid conditions when you're on the go
never seen anyone use one even in 30+ c and again, norway. there's a drinkable stream or waterfall in sight anywhere you go >This is the part where he goes off the rails and exposes that he was dropped on the head as an infant
okay >This is just dumb. Me and my girlfriend always bring a whistle in case we get split up. If you're not on a well marked trail it's very easy to get lost innawoods. Also useful if you break a leg or some shit and can't move. It goes under the same category as a medkit or space blanket. You don't expect to use it but if you ever need it, you'll be glad you have it.
can't go PrepHole without your trusty kazoo lol. lmao >Something to keep your blades sharp on a long outing is a really good idea, especially if you're going to be using to process fish or game. Nothing worse than trying to filet a fish or skin an animal with a dull knife.
yeah hunters here usually bring a full set of knives plus sharpener in a folding pouch. as an fisherman i bring a freshly sharpened bait knife and a fillet knife and the edges last for weeks >Apparently wanting to get a closer look at wildlife is a larp, who knew
binos aren't a larp if you like looking at birds the same way e-tools aren't a larp if you like to dig catholes. using that logic nothing is ever larp
2 years ago
Anonymous
>can't go PrepHole without your trusty kazoo lol. lmao
The sorts who think they're 2 cool 4 school to think about their safety are the ones who turn into spoopy stories about alien abductions and bigfoot snatchings. In reality it was just some guy who stumbled down a cliff in some remote hiking area, broke his back, and died after 3 agonizing days laying in the same spot; his corpse subsequently consumed by wildlife. If only he had something louder than his feeble voice to alert others in the area of his presence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
fine, i'll concede on the whistle
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you can blow your cute lil whistle while a grizzly sodomizes you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
no grizzlies in my part of the world, friend
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm the guy who made the list and what I'm getting from this is that the reason why people are constantly fighting here is because they ignore that they're from different areas in the world. Even in just the USA you have a whole range of environments.
thanks anon, other people gave good feedback but you're the only one who actually did what I asked in the post lol
I only think you're too strict on water though, you don't need to be in afghanistan to get dehydrated and you seem to think that anything cooking/boiling related is not necessary. no filter either. how do you get water?
not OP but what's LARP gear since we're at it? I'm going to make a list, divide LARP from non LARP in a multiple day hike >SAK/multitool >just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP >fixed knife, ~10cm blade >fixed knife, ~20cm blade >small folding saw >a small hatchet >water canteen >water bladder >some kind of mess kit to cook with >actual pots and pans >portable grill >alcohol stove >wood sticks stove >cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP) >small fishing kit >water filter >firesteel >matches in dry container >bic lighter >zippo lighter >zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag >FAK but it's only booboos and blisters >FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc >coffee or tea, ground or leaves >coffee or tea, soluble >e-tool >torch >headlamp >lantern >canned food >dried food >MREs >energy snacks >a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck >a whistle >a mirror >a compass (analog) >a map >trekking poles >some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book >spare clothes >a poncho >a rain jacket / shell >a backpack cover >fishing tackle >flint and steel >sharpening stone >space blanket >more than one space blanket >flares like the ones in The Thing >those snappy glowing sticks >binoculars >ghillie suit >machete
Whether I'm going on a day hike, or a multi-day outing, I always carry a rain pancho that can double as a tarp, a small first aid kit, and a possibles bag that contains Dave Canterbury's 10 C's + 2 high caloric granola bars. It's 3 pounds worth of gear that can save my life if things went south for whatever reason.
>abbreviated medic bag >good folding knoife >small whetstone >stormproof matches (in a cheapass little film canister-sized arts and crafts plastic bottle with no gasket that takes on 0 hot or cold water at the bottom of my sink even though it floats, stop falling for memes you absolute troglodytes, fricking touch grass) >pack of light sticks >a small fire steel and a little bit of camphor tinder, fricking Bics and Zippos (that the fuel evaporates from in 2 days) lol, lmao even >flare gun to shoot the ranger in the face if he finds my illegal camp >QUALITY compass >laminated USGS map >iodine tablets >emergency thermal blanket >the usual 50 ft. of paracord and some bits of hardware
So it's similar to OP's picture, except less gay and better. A battery is never an survival tool unless it's going into a satellite transciever beacon that will call S&R to come rescue your dumb ass.
Anyway, since real men employed by wilderness-oriented agencies here in the US are in ever-shorter supply these days due to the modern sociopolitical situation (as well as the increasing numbers of diversity-hire women who rarely agree to leave air-conditioned buildings, a different breed than women who entered the services back in the day), coupled with the ever-increasing amount of morons who go outdoors completely ignorant of how to cope with wildlands since all they do is poke at their mobile phones all their lives, a lot of states are talking about CHARGING you for getting rescued.
LMAO! The rescuers don't want to go outside, and the people who do need rescuing are dramatically increasing in number because no one touches grass anymore. Karma's a b***h.
I don't visit /misc/, there are articles about this issue going back to the early 2000s, back before wrongthink was so heavily censored. So don't get lost.
>A battery is never an survival tool
A battery with a bridge to complete a circuit would start a fire in wet conditions far easier than a fire steel would.
steel wool works great for the bridge, and has other uses too
I vividly remember using a 9 volt and steel wool to start a fire for my wilderness survival merit badge
>A battery with a bridge to complete a circuit would start a fire in wet conditions far easier than a fire steel would.
The flare gun on my list wasn't just a meme, and isn't just for signaling.
Do you know what else starts fires in wet conditions? Stormproof matches, also on my list.
Anyway, I only made it to Life Scout before I left for military boarding school. I should raid Mom's attic and see what badges I had, I had a ton.
no but i keep parts of my kit i otherwise normally bring in my fanny pack and/or hip belts instead of my packpack as a sort of survival kit so that if i ever get separated from my pack i'm not totally fricked. like 1/4 of missing hikers in the pnw seem to abandon their backpack or camp with all their gear.
Holy shit I have one of these that is really old, but there's no date on it. It looks exactly like the one in that picture but it's all unpainted aluminum (?).
On the butt it says >IMCO-TRIPLEX >PATENT - MADE IN AUSTRIA >JUNIOR >6600
It works perfectly with zippo flints and wick. Sadly I cannot post a picture because my carrier is range banned. Functionally it seems to be the same as a "slim" zippo but please elighten me on why it's better.
Biggest upside for me is, that you can take out the fuel tank while its burning and use it like a match, this is great for lighting campfires. The fuel also seems to evaporate somewhat slower and the Imco always catches on the first strike while you may have to fiddle a bit with a zippo. I personly use the Streamline 6800. Biggest upside for Zippos is, is that they are sturdier in construction.
>Biggest upside for me is, that you can take out the fuel tank while its burning and use it like a match >it actually works
this is so cool, thanks for the tip anon
if you do that make shure to extinguish it by suffocating the flame inside the lighter body and dont blow it out, that way the wick lasts longer.
also works amazing for lighting candles, where you would normally burn your hands with a BIC. In the Flint assembly on the back of the lighter there is a spot where you can put a second flint.
>In the Flint assembly on the back of the lighter there is a spot where you can put a second flint.
Ohhh so that's what that notch was for. The candle trick is such a nice thing. Thanks anon.
Also I think mine is from the 1960s. I had given it a vinegar bath to take off all the rust, scrubbed it a bit with a toothbrush, put flint etc. in and it works perfectly. I know that lighters are a simple thing but I love this endlessly functional stuff.
>Shelter
rain poncho
sitting pad
emergency mylar sleeping bag
two large trash bags
7 meters of cordage
ten zip ties
two 2 meter rolls of duct tape
>Sanitation and First Aid
small bar of soap
hand sanitizer gel
alcohol and soap wipes
small roll of toilet paper
one quick release tourniquet
2 meters of bandage
two gauze pads
small roll of medical tape
nine ibuprofen pills
two band aids
one gud goy mask
>Tools
foldable stainless steel knife
limitless equipment survival tin mk1 with added fire starting extras
10L compact backup backpack
small roll of electrical tape
jet lighter
small backup lighter
3 meters of tin foil
two small pencils and a pen
notepad inside ziplock bag with silica gels
USB flash drive
3000 mah power bank with built in LED light
USB rechargable 150 lumen flashlight
wallet ninja pro card
>Food and water
eight water purification tablets
two energy gels
three electrolyte tablets
one bouillon cube
two instant coffee packets
one 500ml soft bottle
small plastic fork
>Extra gear for adventurous day hikes or bushcraft overnight
opinel no.8 knife
silky pocket boy 170 saw
9x5 ultralight tarp
10 meters of paracord
seven tent stakes
one 1.5L bottle
10000 mah power bank
petzl head lamp with extra battery
sleeping pad roll
poncho liner
light puffy down jacket
550ml titanium cup
alcohol stove with 120ml of fuel
food and beer
I never go out without one tbh. It's a great backpack frame, wind shield for cooking, torso wrap when cold, improvised pillow, space to put your things on, kneeling mat for starting fire or repairing a bike and of course you sit on it
a whistle isn't enough anyhow, if you risk not being found for days and venture outside of phone coverage i'd suggest a sat phone or sat beacon as the golden standard. use the whistle so rescue team can pinpoint your location
You can also just tell someone where you're going so if they don't hear back from you they'll send S&R to look for you. Of course satellite would be the better option if you can afford it
yeah
Is this an excerpt from House of Leaves? It worked its way into my head too effectively for me to finish it, but it has the cadence of the narrator.
filename, anon
based Ti Jean
can you imagine his level of shitposting if he'd be around today? man was basically PrepHole + PrepHole + PrepHole + /misc/ but also somewhat PrepHole if you consider his football years and /k/ for his navy days
Kerouac is a shit writer, he would be indistinguishable than any other mediocre shitposter here
Which books of his have you read?
Don't leave the house without leatherman, olight and full zippo in my pockets
What do you consider "survival" gear? is just basic stuff to carry. But if you mean stuff like snares, fishing line, saws etc. on a hiking or camping trip that's just larp .
not OP but what's LARP gear since we're at it? I'm going to make a list, divide LARP from non LARP in a multiple day hike
>SAK/multitool
>just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP
>fixed knife, ~10cm blade
>fixed knife, ~20cm blade
>small folding saw
>a small hatchet
>water canteen
>water bladder
>some kind of mess kit to cook with
>actual pots and pans
>portable grill
>alcohol stove
>wood sticks stove
>cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP)
>small fishing kit
>water filter
>firesteel
>matches in dry container
>bic lighter
>zippo lighter
>zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag
>FAK but it's only booboos and blisters
>FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
>coffee or tea, ground or leaves
>coffee or tea, soluble
>e-tool
>torch
>headlamp
>lantern
>canned food
>dried food
>MREs
>energy snacks
>a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck
>a whistle
>a mirror
>a compass (analog)
>a map
>trekking poles
>some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book
>spare clothes
>a poncho
>a rain jacket / shell
>a backpack cover
>fishing tackle
>flint and steel
>sharpening stone
>space blanket
>more than one space blanket
>flares like the ones in The Thing
>those snappy glowing sticks
>binoculars
>ghillie suit
>machete
LARPing is more of a mindset rather than something you can assign to items. A machete for example could be a practical tool in some situations. However, 90% of people don't need it and carry one for LARP purposes only. Here's a good rule of thumb, if you expect to use it and there isn't a more practical alternative, then it's not a LARP.
are you telling me that I can take all that stuff with me?
Obviously you can’t carry everything together, but you could carry any of those items without larping if you have a use for it. It’s hard to imagine how you would be using a ghillie suit without larping though.
You guys will knitpick anything. Your first aid kit should be able to deal with injuries that could reasonably happen.
>if you expect to use it and there isn't a more practical alternative, then it's not a LARP.
So either I expect to get injured, or carrying a medical kit is a larp. Thanks for gracing us with your wisdom.
Also, there’s nothing wrong with larping if you’re having a good time. It’s fine to carry a Crocodile Dundee knife even though you have no real need for it.
>Also, there’s nothing wrong with larping if you’re having a good time. It’s fine to carry a Crocodile Dundee knife even though you have no real need for it.
Thanks anon this is exactly what I wanted to hear... Yes... HAHAHAHA... YES!
I was a canadian ranger for over 5 years, basically a professionally larper. I have expertise in this. These are larp tier:
>fixed knife, ~20cm blade
A small folding knife will do the same work of a huge Rambo knife 99% of the time. The only things a big knife does better than a little knife is things that other tools are much better at. An opinel won't batony chop chop wood, open a can of beans, or stab a hobo as well as a rambo knife, but if you have to do those tasks regularly there are better tools for the job.
>actual pots and pans
Anything you can't cook in a cup or on a stick is probably better off left at home. Our patrol always brought normal pots and pans, but we always had an ATV, Snowmobile, truck, boat or helicopter to do the heavy lifting, you probably don't.
>portable grill
Same as above, you can nig rig something easy enough.
>cordage
The only time it is a larp is when it's coiled in a bracelet or on a knife handle, it is infinitely useful. Learn knots and use them regularly. it is a skill that expires quickly. An example: 3 separate very intelligent, blue collared men forgot how to do a clove hitch, and the fisherman that definitely knew was out sick. Protip: the best knot is actually just wrapping around a tree a few times and tying off the slack, friction does all the work for you and doesn't weaken the rope/cordage like a regular knot.
>firesteel
Look into your heart, you all know it to be true. I still carry one anyways, but I hope I will never have to use one in earnest.
>zippo lighter
Terrible lighters, overly heavy, expensive, and get mogged by cheap bics and USB lighters. I won't think you're a LARPer if you carry one, I'll just think you're a chain smoker.
>FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
Depends on the context, if you're a yuropoor with no predators or drunk hunters, you probably won't need one. It's better to err on the side of caution anyways, first aid kits won't be larps unless you have the Punisher skull on it.
>e-tool
You don't need to dig trenches on a day hike. They're such a big larp even the professional larpers made fun of me for bringing one. If you're just going to dig a hole to poop in, the aluminum or titanium scoops are a much better option.
>lantern
If it's the heavy gas powered ones, yes that is a larp, if it's a light, collapsible LED one it's not.
>survival manual
If it's a digital copy on your phone, there's no reason not to take it, but taking a physical book outdoors is kind of silly.
>flint and steel
Even more of a larp than fire steel.
>sharpening stone
If you have to sharpen your knife during a multi day outing, you should probably cut back on scraping your knife against rocks and hobo bones.
>flares like the one in The Thing
Very bright and can start a fire in a pinch, but heavy and expensive. I don't think a single sound minded person takes them on hikes.
>glowsticks
Light tech has really come far in the past 20 years, glowsticks are completely obsolete, don't bring a plastic stick full of weird chemicals into the woods, maybe it's worth keeping one for emergencies, but don't use them regularly.
>binoculars
If you're just bird watching or a pervert scoping out chicks it's fine, but you don't really need one for a hike.
>ghillie suit
The larpiest thing ever, you don't need it unless you're trying to kill someone.
>machete
If you're hiking on an established trail you don't really need it. If you're a psychopath that doesn't use trails you probably aren't worried about hippie hipsters calling you a larper.
I'm not saying don't get any of those things, or you're LARPer for having them, (I have most of the things on this list), just that you probably don't need them for the average weekend hike. Man I miss my boomerwaffen frens, too bad Canada got so gay.
>aluminum or titanium scoops are a much better option
But can it do this?
Zippo with butane insert, guess you don't know it all ranger larper
>buy a lighter and a can of butane
or
>buy a lighter and a solar panel that can charge gadgets and the lighter
Pick one, or pick both, I don't care.
If you think zippos are cool because they engraved your favorite car brand or you tricked them into engraving a horribly racist meme that is based, but it doesn't mean it's the best option.
Get called out
Goes full moron writing a blog kek
Can refill lighters from butane burner canister
I'm the guy who made the list and I meant fuel zippos, so he got it right. I didn't even know they made butane inserts.
>They're such a big larp even the professional larpers made fun of me for bringing one.
I love my e-tool, makes such a nice CH-KLACK sound when you unfold the handle.
Makes list
Doesn't know what the frick he's talking about
Lol
Lmao even
>Doesn't know what the frick he's talking about
sorry if I am not updated on the latest products, I know that butane lighters exist, just not zippos
>SAK/multitool
depends on the SAK/multitool
>just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP
bigger than mine
>fixed knife, ~10cm blade
reasonable
>fixed knife, ~20cm blade
larp
>small folding saw
depends, are you building a shelter?
>a small hatchet
larp
>water canteen
larp
>water bladder
are you in afghanistan?
>some kind of mess kit to cook with
>actual pots and pans
>portable grill
>alcohol stove
>wood sticks stove
>cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP)
>small fishing kit
>water filter
>firesteel
>matches in dry container
larp
>bic lighter
not larp
>zippo lighter
>zippo lighter but it's in a ziploc bag
larp
>FAK but it's only booboos and blisters
>FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
the latter is larp unless you are a soldier or hunting with a party
>coffee or tea, ground or leaves
>coffee or tea, soluble
on what planet is this larp?
>e-tool
larpiest of larps
>torch
>headlamp
essential
>canned food
>dried food
not larp
>MREs
larp
>energy snacks
>a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck
not larp
>a whistle
larp
>a mirror
>a compass (analog)
bring a compass with a sighting mirror, if you don't need a compass then you don't need a mirror
>a map
essential
>trekking poles
depends on your age, how much you carry and where you're going, i'd say larp in most use cases i've seen on PrepHole
>some kind of survival manual either in digital form or book
larp
>spare clothes
depends on climate and where you are, i bring spare underwear and socks. if i get dirty i don't care, if i get soaked i'm going back to my car
>a poncho
>a rain jacket / shell
>a backpack cover
not larp
>fishing tackle
i'm a fisherman
>flint and steel
>sharpening stone
larp
>space blanket
not a larp
>more than one space blanket
larp
>flares like the ones in The Thing
>those snappy glowing sticks
>binoculars
>ghillie suit
>machete
larp
This post is bad and you should feel bad
this is his list with all the "larp" edited out, including "maybe" etc.
what is it missing? not trying to antagonize, I'm interested in having an exchange here
>SAK/multitool
>just a tiny flimsy folding knife like in OP
>fixed knife, ~10cm blade
>small folding saw
>bic lighter
>FAK but it's only booboos and blisters
>FAK but it's complete with tourniquets etc
>coffee or tea, ground or leaves
>coffee or tea, soluble
>torch
>headlamp
>canned food
>dried food
>energy snacks
>a freezed bag with bran crackers, cheese and speck
>a compass (analog)
>a map
>trekking poles
>spare clothes
>a poncho
>a rain jacket / shell
>a backpack cover
>fishing tackle
>space blanket
>a small hatchet
Very useful for some situations. If you're making a fire or shelter and can spare the weight, take one. Otherwise a small folding saw can do most of the same jobs.
>small folding saw >depends, are you building a shelter?
moronic take. Small folding saw is the best all-round tool for processing firewood, and you can also use it for clearing trails and blocked waterways.
>water bladder >are you in afghanistan?
Another moronic take. Water bladders are useful in hot/humid conditions when you're on the go
>some kind of mess kit to cook with
>actual pots and pans
>portable grill
>alcohol stove
>wood sticks stove
>cordage (specify up to which length it's not LARP)
>small fishing kit
>water filter
>firesteel
>matches in dry container
This is the part where he goes off the rails and exposes that he was dropped on the head as an infant
>a whistle >larp
This is just dumb. Me and my girlfriend always bring a whistle in case we get split up. If you're not on a well marked trail it's very easy to get lost innawoods. Also useful if you break a leg or some shit and can't move. It goes under the same category as a medkit or space blanket. You don't expect to use it but if you ever need it, you'll be glad you have it.
>sharpening stone >larp
Something to keep your blades sharp on a long outing is a really good idea, especially if you're going to be using to process fish or game. Nothing worse than trying to filet a fish or skin an animal with a dull knife.
>binoculars >larp
Apparently wanting to get a closer look at wildlife is a larp, who knew
>Very useful for some situations. If you're making a fire or shelter and can spare the weight, take one. Otherwise a small folding saw can do most of the same jobs.
redundant here in norway. no trails to clear and firewood is breaking dead and dry sticks and branches over your knee
>moronic take. Small folding saw is the best all-round tool for processing firewood, and you can also use it for clearing trails and blocked waterways.
>Another moronic take. Water bladders are useful in hot/humid conditions when you're on the go
never seen anyone use one even in 30+ c and again, norway. there's a drinkable stream or waterfall in sight anywhere you go
>This is the part where he goes off the rails and exposes that he was dropped on the head as an infant
okay
>This is just dumb. Me and my girlfriend always bring a whistle in case we get split up. If you're not on a well marked trail it's very easy to get lost innawoods. Also useful if you break a leg or some shit and can't move. It goes under the same category as a medkit or space blanket. You don't expect to use it but if you ever need it, you'll be glad you have it.
can't go PrepHole without your trusty kazoo lol. lmao
>Something to keep your blades sharp on a long outing is a really good idea, especially if you're going to be using to process fish or game. Nothing worse than trying to filet a fish or skin an animal with a dull knife.
yeah hunters here usually bring a full set of knives plus sharpener in a folding pouch. as an fisherman i bring a freshly sharpened bait knife and a fillet knife and the edges last for weeks
>Apparently wanting to get a closer look at wildlife is a larp, who knew
binos aren't a larp if you like looking at birds the same way e-tools aren't a larp if you like to dig catholes. using that logic nothing is ever larp
>can't go PrepHole without your trusty kazoo lol. lmao
The sorts who think they're 2 cool 4 school to think about their safety are the ones who turn into spoopy stories about alien abductions and bigfoot snatchings. In reality it was just some guy who stumbled down a cliff in some remote hiking area, broke his back, and died after 3 agonizing days laying in the same spot; his corpse subsequently consumed by wildlife. If only he had something louder than his feeble voice to alert others in the area of his presence.
fine, i'll concede on the whistle
So you can blow your cute lil whistle while a grizzly sodomizes you?
no grizzlies in my part of the world, friend
I'm the guy who made the list and what I'm getting from this is that the reason why people are constantly fighting here is because they ignore that they're from different areas in the world. Even in just the USA you have a whole range of environments.
i agree
Holy shit what a frickwit well done anon most moronic post I've seen in ages
thanks anon, other people gave good feedback but you're the only one who actually did what I asked in the post lol
I only think you're too strict on water though, you don't need to be in afghanistan to get dehydrated and you seem to think that anything cooking/boiling related is not necessary. no filter either. how do you get water?
Think you missed the point which was they aren't survival gear they're everyday carry and cover 90% of his kit
If you have to ask, the LARPer is... you.
*freezer bag, not freezed
I carry a gun with only one round. That's all I need.
Hopefully for yourself, right anon?
Totally depends. Let's say you and I are walking through the woods together, we come across an angry grizzly.
Y-you would be kind enough to shoot me?
I wouldn't worry about it.
Whether I'm going on a day hike, or a multi-day outing, I always carry a rain pancho that can double as a tarp, a small first aid kit, and a possibles bag that contains Dave Canterbury's 10 C's + 2 high caloric granola bars. It's 3 pounds worth of gear that can save my life if things went south for whatever reason.
>abbreviated medic bag
>good folding knoife
>small whetstone
>stormproof matches (in a cheapass little film canister-sized arts and crafts plastic bottle with no gasket that takes on 0 hot or cold water at the bottom of my sink even though it floats, stop falling for memes you absolute troglodytes, fricking touch grass)
>pack of light sticks
>a small fire steel and a little bit of camphor tinder, fricking Bics and Zippos (that the fuel evaporates from in 2 days) lol, lmao even
>flare gun to shoot the ranger in the face if he finds my illegal camp
>QUALITY compass
>laminated USGS map
>iodine tablets
>emergency thermal blanket
>the usual 50 ft. of paracord and some bits of hardware
So it's similar to OP's picture, except less gay and better. A battery is never an survival tool unless it's going into a satellite transciever beacon that will call S&R to come rescue your dumb ass.
Anyway, since real men employed by wilderness-oriented agencies here in the US are in ever-shorter supply these days due to the modern sociopolitical situation (as well as the increasing numbers of diversity-hire women who rarely agree to leave air-conditioned buildings, a different breed than women who entered the services back in the day), coupled with the ever-increasing amount of morons who go outdoors completely ignorant of how to cope with wildlands since all they do is poke at their mobile phones all their lives, a lot of states are talking about CHARGING you for getting rescued.
LMAO! The rescuers don't want to go outside, and the people who do need rescuing are dramatically increasing in number because no one touches grass anymore. Karma's a b***h.
I don't visit /misc/, there are articles about this issue going back to the early 2000s, back before wrongthink was so heavily censored. So don't get lost.
Zippo makes butane inserts grandpa
>A battery is never an survival tool
A battery with a bridge to complete a circuit would start a fire in wet conditions far easier than a fire steel would.
steel wool works great for the bridge, and has other uses too
I vividly remember using a 9 volt and steel wool to start a fire for my wilderness survival merit badge
>A battery with a bridge to complete a circuit would start a fire in wet conditions far easier than a fire steel would.
The flare gun on my list wasn't just a meme, and isn't just for signaling.
Do you know what else starts fires in wet conditions? Stormproof matches, also on my list.
Anyway, I only made it to Life Scout before I left for military boarding school. I should raid Mom's attic and see what badges I had, I had a ton.
no but i keep parts of my kit i otherwise normally bring in my fanny pack and/or hip belts instead of my packpack as a sort of survival kit so that if i ever get separated from my pack i'm not totally fricked. like 1/4 of missing hikers in the pnw seem to abandon their backpack or camp with all their gear.
no maybe a knife or a gun
Havalon brand, model might be a piranha by the looks of it.
thank you kindly anon.
IMCO Chads rise up! Mogging Zippo since 1918!
Holy shit I have one of these that is really old, but there's no date on it. It looks exactly like the one in that picture but it's all unpainted aluminum (?).
On the butt it says
>IMCO-TRIPLEX
>PATENT - MADE IN AUSTRIA
>JUNIOR
>6600
It works perfectly with zippo flints and wick. Sadly I cannot post a picture because my carrier is range banned. Functionally it seems to be the same as a "slim" zippo but please elighten me on why it's better.
Biggest upside for me is, that you can take out the fuel tank while its burning and use it like a match, this is great for lighting campfires. The fuel also seems to evaporate somewhat slower and the Imco always catches on the first strike while you may have to fiddle a bit with a zippo. I personly use the Streamline 6800. Biggest upside for Zippos is, is that they are sturdier in construction.
>Biggest upside for me is, that you can take out the fuel tank while its burning and use it like a match
>it actually works
this is so cool, thanks for the tip anon
if you do that make shure to extinguish it by suffocating the flame inside the lighter body and dont blow it out, that way the wick lasts longer.
also works amazing for lighting candles, where you would normally burn your hands with a BIC. In the Flint assembly on the back of the lighter there is a spot where you can put a second flint.
>In the Flint assembly on the back of the lighter there is a spot where you can put a second flint.
Ohhh so that's what that notch was for. The candle trick is such a nice thing. Thanks anon.
Also I think mine is from the 1960s. I had given it a vinegar bath to take off all the rust, scrubbed it a bit with a toothbrush, put flint etc. in and it works perfectly. I know that lighters are a simple thing but I love this endlessly functional stuff.
Yes
I carry basically the same as you except I have a head touch instead.
Water. It's pretty hard to survive without water.
Visa.
Depends where. Always have a compass and knife at the very least.
>Shelter
rain poncho
sitting pad
emergency mylar sleeping bag
two large trash bags
7 meters of cordage
ten zip ties
two 2 meter rolls of duct tape
>Sanitation and First Aid
small bar of soap
hand sanitizer gel
alcohol and soap wipes
small roll of toilet paper
one quick release tourniquet
2 meters of bandage
two gauze pads
small roll of medical tape
nine ibuprofen pills
two band aids
one gud goy mask
>Tools
foldable stainless steel knife
limitless equipment survival tin mk1 with added fire starting extras
10L compact backup backpack
small roll of electrical tape
jet lighter
small backup lighter
3 meters of tin foil
two small pencils and a pen
notepad inside ziplock bag with silica gels
USB flash drive
3000 mah power bank with built in LED light
USB rechargable 150 lumen flashlight
wallet ninja pro card
>Food and water
eight water purification tablets
two energy gels
three electrolyte tablets
one bouillon cube
two instant coffee packets
one 500ml soft bottle
small plastic fork
>Extra gear for adventurous day hikes or bushcraft overnight
opinel no.8 knife
silky pocket boy 170 saw
9x5 ultralight tarp
10 meters of paracord
seven tent stakes
one 1.5L bottle
10000 mah power bank
petzl head lamp with extra battery
sleeping pad roll
poncho liner
light puffy down jacket
550ml titanium cup
alcohol stove with 120ml of fuel
food and beer
The base every day carry loudout weighs 2kg. With extra bushcraft/overnight gear it's 4kg.
ultralighters be mad cuz they can't sleep under a tarp on a foam pad
>ultralighters be mad cuz they can't sleep under a tarp on a foam pad
Enjoy your 8 billion mosquito bites I guess
>sitting pad
Is it actually a good buy or so-so?
I never go out without one tbh. It's a great backpack frame, wind shield for cooking, torso wrap when cold, improvised pillow, space to put your things on, kneeling mat for starting fire or repairing a bike and of course you sit on it
very very nice. I have one on the way and I was wondering if I didn't waste money. I'll keep in mind the wind shield idea, ty anon
And I do think it's missing shit, most notably something to cook with, like a steel canteen or something.
a whistle isn't enough anyhow, if you risk not being found for days and venture outside of phone coverage i'd suggest a sat phone or sat beacon as the golden standard. use the whistle so rescue team can pinpoint your location
You can also just tell someone where you're going so if they don't hear back from you they'll send S&R to look for you. Of course satellite would be the better option if you can afford it
didn't see your post, but yes this is bare minimum precaution even elementary kids learn this
plus it's basic precaution to tell someone where you're going and when you expect to be back, and check in with them when you return