Quality rifle brands will appreciate in value, especially if scarcity becomes a thing. For example my pre-covid BCM upper has increased in price by close to $250 when compared to the same model and configuration on their website.
Budget/shit-tier brands will forever remain as such. My throwaway DelTon & PSA uppers are worth the same if not less than what I paid for them when I assembled them.
We talking spray paint or something semi permanent like cerakote? Spray paint will come off with alcohol easily.
https://i.imgur.com/vjxtbV3.jpg
Do AR’s ever appreciate in value or is the market too oversaturated at this point?
If we're talking a ban, even the shittiest AR will jump up 1k immediately. I remember poverty pony stripped lowers going for 100+ easily during 2012. Otherwise inflation.
>We talking spray paint or something semi permanent like cerakote? Spray paint will come off with alcohol easily.
Even if you strip it your still out the money and time you spent painting it and the time you spend unpainting it. and you have to do a good job stripping it which takes time and effort or its going to look even more like a pos.
its a loss
>If we're talking a ban
This and we all know one is coming someday.
I have thought about buying 5 or more PSAs and holding on to them until the ban then selling them off.
>This and we all know one is coming someday.
Uhh no, lol? If these retards couldn't go through with AWB (which still wasn't a complete ban) what makes you think they can now, with bruen, buncha new pro 2A laws, and an entire new generation of armed, angry zoomers that grew up playing cod, hating the anti-christ and not complying? This isn't 90s anymore where the only people who owned guns were complying old homosexual fudds, the culture has changed. Actually don't answer, you're probably a homosexual shill anyway.
>If we're talking a ban
This and we all know one is coming someday.
I have thought about buying 5 or more PSAs and holding on to them until the ban then selling them off.
It's crazy to think it was only 20 years ago the awb ended. The gun market has changed so completely even another ban would be pointless, ARs are fucking everywhere and the awb is to blame in the first place.
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Just talking about normal market stuff: high end brands (KAC, LMT, rare Colt variants) will appreciate more than lower end brands will, but all "name brand" ARs will appreciate.
Literal no-name or homebuilt ARs will barely appreciate at all.
All that goes out the window in the case of bans or panic, even the shittiest poverty pony or homebuilt AR will appreciate in the face of a ban.
Accessories almost never appreciate, even nice optics are worth a fraction used compared to new.
>ARs are fucking everywhere and the awb is to blame in the first place.
seriously this.
Do you have any idea how many people have bought guns in the last couple years and how many of those were ARs?
The AWB initially passed because AR and AK pattern rifles were a pretty boutique item that the majority of gun owners did not have. Most people who owned a gun for self defense had a handgun and maybe a pump shotgun or SKS if they really meant business. It was a completely different situation than it is today.
There are simply way, way too many people in way too many states and across the entire political spectrum that are no longer going to be convinced they do not need a semi-automatic rifle for self defense. Were it not for the year of riots where you could literally watch dozens of people attacking stores, cars, pedestrians, starting fires, etc every single night somewhere in the United States maybe an AWB could pass. But at this point no amount of moral pressure is going to make people forget seeing that. The possibility of being randomly attacked in your home by a group went from unrealistic militia fantasy to reality really fast. There is a reason left wing gun control narratives have walked very far away from "LOL that is NEVER going to happen you are small pp" style campaigns to try and dissuade people from even buying ARs in the first place.
>Were it not for the year of riots
I know it's been said thousands of times but there seem to be folk who just don't get it. The summer of fun flipped millions on the issue of gun rights. The demographic was already shifting but now when you go into a gun shop you're more likely to see a crowd of young adults instead of angry boomers.
Every gun increased in price after covid you midwit
https://i.imgur.com/vjxtbV3.jpg
Do AR’s ever appreciate in value or is the market too oversaturated at this point?
They are not appreciating assets unless they are somehow rare or limited (and desired). However, they're not really depreciating assets either. They mostly stay the same or slowly decline.
if its a good gun, it will always be valuable
and if it fit into a cultural context, then it may gain value as it ages
people used to throw away gerands when they got a bit rusty because they were just some gun, and yet look at them now
High end rare ones can. Usually if it falls into the collectable catagory. For example, I picked up a LMT MWS in 308 in a special canteen green color that had only like 60 made. It was for a possible contact for a south american military. I picked it up for 1800 and they go for 4.5-5k only because there is a small number of them
My PSA shitrods will never appreciate in value, It's a nice thought though if shit got really bad I have enough shitrods to arm half my neighborhood. I'm falling way behind on ammo though and the recent panic isn't helping.
Only in terms of typical direct impingement low quality shite is there oversaturation.
I'd like to see one that utilizes the long-stroke piston system of PWS with the buffertube-less aspects of the MCX and AR180 with a front charging handle, forward assist, and brass deflector.
We could use entries of ARs that take pre-existing ideas and then combine the best ones together.
Besides that, I'd like to see a return of full stock bolt-action rifles with wooden or synthetic upper handguards. Basically modern WW1-style battle rifles.
>direct impingement low quality
DI ARs are objectively more reliable than piston ARs. Id go as far as saying DI is generally more reliable overall. If you disagree you are wrong.
WW1 battle rifles making a comeback would be cool though.
I mean you're right, but only because they're ubiquitous and very good at being accurate, modular, and (relatively) cheap. They're the standard every other rifle is held to, like Glock for pistols. If you can't make better or cheaper don't bother making it.
Yeah i don't mean to come across like an asshole honestly. They're just your average semi automatic rifles (unless you somehow can get a full auto mode or burst mode but goodluck with all that tax and money paperworks) they are just like glocks. Overrated and just a no brainer to have for the sake of "i would like a gun that just works" sets. Again, I'm not trying to sound like I'm bashing on the products but it's just a basic rifle but to some it is like the messiah of all guns when the reality is that they are just normal guns like any other guns that works.
Unless its a complete factory gun of a renowned manufacturer like lmt, knights, noveske or hk no your hoegepodge bullshit ar is not going to appreciate in value ever. Its like cars, you dont ever want to buy a car from some fuckhead who "fixed it up" tuned it etc because you never know what the idiots switched or fucked up or cheaped out on etc. You want a nice stock toyota, jeep, or honda so that you can fuck it up. The end.
It's easy. I had to leave my guns at my parents place for about a year and all I did was wipe them down with CLP collectors wipes and put them in silicone socks. Came back and nothing was wrong with them.
The probably have a dehumidified room and clean them when they happen to shoot them.
In California and other ban states, you can buy a stripped lower for $100 and build whatever you want as long as it has a fixed stock and a crippled grip.
I’ve got one, a 1968 Sporter 1, in about 95% condition.
Frankly, it’s a PITA because it’s a fucking Safe Queen.
I’m an adult, and have always been anal about cleaning and maintaining my iron, (some parts of Parris Island never lave you), but I’m mindful every time I bring the PoodleShooter out that I’m lowering its value.
I want to get a Ruger or a Smitty AR platform that I can have fun with.
Absolutely agreed, go get a PSA if you want a shitrod that will just work and cheap.
Sp1 is a good investment piece now though. Isn't it going to be C&R eligible soon too?
Everyone who wants an AR has 4 and is building a 5th. The market has 6 gogazillion lowers produced a month. There’s 97 gorgagillionish out there. But the demand grows. They’ll always have value as the currency debt not dollar is dying. They’ll be priced in food or fuel perhaps or even scalp locks oneday.
it depends, if it's like a Colt or something old like a Windham Bushmaster yeah. If it's just a garden variety flat top M4 AR, probably not. The wild card is if there is a ban. If that happens the value on even a PSA will shoot through the roof
There's something deeply unsettling about that photo and i couldn't put my picture on it until i noticed the dad looks like he's late 50s/ early 60s and the mom is late 40s
That means they had the kids with dusty sperms and eggs and that's why them kids look so weird, almost dysgenic in quality
Quality rifle brands will appreciate in value, especially if scarcity becomes a thing. For example my pre-covid BCM upper has increased in price by close to $250 when compared to the same model and configuration on their website.
Budget/shit-tier brands will forever remain as such. My throwaway DelTon & PSA uppers are worth the same if not less than what I paid for them when I assembled them.
Does painting an AR actually hurt resale value or is that fudd lore?
Destroys it unless it's something unobtainable like an sr15, 416.
Meh at least I wasn’t planning on reselling it
We talking spray paint or something semi permanent like cerakote? Spray paint will come off with alcohol easily.
If we're talking a ban, even the shittiest AR will jump up 1k immediately. I remember poverty pony stripped lowers going for 100+ easily during 2012. Otherwise inflation.
>We talking spray paint or something semi permanent like cerakote? Spray paint will come off with alcohol easily.
Even if you strip it your still out the money and time you spent painting it and the time you spend unpainting it. and you have to do a good job stripping it which takes time and effort or its going to look even more like a pos.
its a loss
>If we're talking a ban
This and we all know one is coming someday.
I have thought about buying 5 or more PSAs and holding on to them until the ban then selling them off.
>This and we all know one is coming someday.
Uhh no, lol? If these retards couldn't go through with AWB (which still wasn't a complete ban) what makes you think they can now, with bruen, buncha new pro 2A laws, and an entire new generation of armed, angry zoomers that grew up playing cod, hating the anti-christ and not complying? This isn't 90s anymore where the only people who owned guns were complying old homosexual fudds, the culture has changed. Actually don't answer, you're probably a homosexual shill anyway.
It's crazy to think it was only 20 years ago the awb ended. The gun market has changed so completely even another ban would be pointless, ARs are fucking everywhere and the awb is to blame in the first place.
Just talking about normal market stuff: high end brands (KAC, LMT, rare Colt variants) will appreciate more than lower end brands will, but all "name brand" ARs will appreciate.
Literal no-name or homebuilt ARs will barely appreciate at all.
All that goes out the window in the case of bans or panic, even the shittiest poverty pony or homebuilt AR will appreciate in the face of a ban.
Accessories almost never appreciate, even nice optics are worth a fraction used compared to new.
>ARs are fucking everywhere and the awb is to blame in the first place.
seriously this.
By packing the Supreme Court when democrats get a stronger foothold in the Senate.
Do you have any idea how many people have bought guns in the last couple years and how many of those were ARs?
The AWB initially passed because AR and AK pattern rifles were a pretty boutique item that the majority of gun owners did not have. Most people who owned a gun for self defense had a handgun and maybe a pump shotgun or SKS if they really meant business. It was a completely different situation than it is today.
There are simply way, way too many people in way too many states and across the entire political spectrum that are no longer going to be convinced they do not need a semi-automatic rifle for self defense. Were it not for the year of riots where you could literally watch dozens of people attacking stores, cars, pedestrians, starting fires, etc every single night somewhere in the United States maybe an AWB could pass. But at this point no amount of moral pressure is going to make people forget seeing that. The possibility of being randomly attacked in your home by a group went from unrealistic militia fantasy to reality really fast. There is a reason left wing gun control narratives have walked very far away from "LOL that is NEVER going to happen you are small pp" style campaigns to try and dissuade people from even buying ARs in the first place.
>Were it not for the year of riots
I know it's been said thousands of times but there seem to be folk who just don't get it. The summer of fun flipped millions on the issue of gun rights. The demographic was already shifting but now when you go into a gun shop you're more likely to see a crowd of young adults instead of angry boomers.
Realistically speaking, even the biggest pack of feral coons are gonna scatter like rats the moment someone opens fire.
Every gun increased in price after covid you midwit
They are not appreciating assets unless they are somehow rare or limited (and desired). However, they're not really depreciating assets either. They mostly stay the same or slowly decline.
Has BCM shit the bed quality wise post covid or something? I'm outta the loop.
>if scarcity becomes a thing
it won't
if its a good gun, it will always be valuable
and if it fit into a cultural context, then it may gain value as it ages
people used to throw away gerands when they got a bit rusty because they were just some gun, and yet look at them now
Maybe HK or KAC
Your mid tier upper that was slapped onto a lower you "built" is still cheap trash no matter how much inflation happens.
High end rare ones can. Usually if it falls into the collectable catagory. For example, I picked up a LMT MWS in 308 in a special canteen green color that had only like 60 made. It was for a possible contact for a south american military. I picked it up for 1800 and they go for 4.5-5k only because there is a small number of them
My PSA shitrods will never appreciate in value, It's a nice thought though if shit got really bad I have enough shitrods to arm half my neighborhood. I'm falling way behind on ammo though and the recent panic isn't helping.
In mid 2020 ARs were bottomed out at 800 smackers at gun shows.
>Do AR’s ever appreciate in value
for like a sp1 or hk416 sure but a ruger american no
Only in terms of typical direct impingement low quality shite is there oversaturation.
I'd like to see one that utilizes the long-stroke piston system of PWS with the buffertube-less aspects of the MCX and AR180 with a front charging handle, forward assist, and brass deflector.
We could use entries of ARs that take pre-existing ideas and then combine the best ones together.
Besides that, I'd like to see a return of full stock bolt-action rifles with wooden or synthetic upper handguards. Basically modern WW1-style battle rifles.
>direct impingement low quality
DI ARs are objectively more reliable than piston ARs. Id go as far as saying DI is generally more reliable overall. If you disagree you are wrong.
WW1 battle rifles making a comeback would be cool though.
Make mine a 1917 Eddystone, please.
AR15 are over-rated and nothing is special about them at this point honestly...
>inb4 AR15 fags goes REEEEEEEEEE over about my post or calls me a noguns fag.
I mean you're right, but only because they're ubiquitous and very good at being accurate, modular, and (relatively) cheap. They're the standard every other rifle is held to, like Glock for pistols. If you can't make better or cheaper don't bother making it.
Yeah i don't mean to come across like an asshole honestly. They're just your average semi automatic rifles (unless you somehow can get a full auto mode or burst mode but goodluck with all that tax and money paperworks) they are just like glocks. Overrated and just a no brainer to have for the sake of "i would like a gun that just works" sets. Again, I'm not trying to sound like I'm bashing on the products but it's just a basic rifle but to some it is like the messiah of all guns when the reality is that they are just normal guns like any other guns that works.
Every panic they shoot up in price.
Unless its a complete factory gun of a renowned manufacturer like lmt, knights, noveske or hk no your hoegepodge bullshit ar is not going to appreciate in value ever. Its like cars, you dont ever want to buy a car from some fuckhead who "fixed it up" tuned it etc because you never know what the idiots switched or fucked up or cheaped out on etc. You want a nice stock toyota, jeep, or honda so that you can fuck it up. The end.
Not different from the funkopops collecting geeks imo
There's no way in hell they properly maintain that many rifles
It's easy. I had to leave my guns at my parents place for about a year and all I did was wipe them down with CLP collectors wipes and put them in silicone socks. Came back and nothing was wrong with them.
The probably have a dehumidified room and clean them when they happen to shoot them.
what brand of sock please
Honestly I don't remember. Generic ones I got on Amazon probably.
They do if someone films the cops arresting an ODing fentanyl junkie (which is bound to happen again in 7 years or so).
in California and other ban states $700 ARs sell for $3500, if you can find an FFL willing to go through the transfer and a legal buyer
In California and other ban states, you can buy a stripped lower for $100 and build whatever you want as long as it has a fixed stock and a crippled grip.
Or you can build it however you want and not tell anyone.
Thats a lie for ca. Its higher by roughly 100-200 over retail but not 3000 dollars.
Some do, most don't.
Pic related is one that increased in value over time.
I’ve got one, a 1968 Sporter 1, in about 95% condition.
Frankly, it’s a PITA because it’s a fucking Safe Queen.
I’m an adult, and have always been anal about cleaning and maintaining my iron, (some parts of Parris Island never lave you), but I’m mindful every time I bring the PoodleShooter out that I’m lowering its value.
I want to get a Ruger or a Smitty AR platform that I can have fun with.
Absolutely agreed, go get a PSA if you want a shitrod that will just work and cheap.
Sp1 is a good investment piece now though. Isn't it going to be C&R eligible soon too?
I strive to have a collection that looks like this
>massive arsenal of the same fucking gun
>house looks like a piece of shit
>want it
Everyone who wants an AR has 4 and is building a 5th. The market has 6 gogazillion lowers produced a month. There’s 97 gorgagillionish out there. But the demand grows. They’ll always have value as the currency debt not dollar is dying. They’ll be priced in food or fuel perhaps or even scalp locks oneday.
it depends, if it's like a Colt or something old like a Windham Bushmaster yeah. If it's just a garden variety flat top M4 AR, probably not. The wild card is if there is a ban. If that happens the value on even a PSA will shoot through the roof
There's something deeply unsettling about that photo and i couldn't put my picture on it until i noticed the dad looks like he's late 50s/ early 60s and the mom is late 40s
That means they had the kids with dusty sperms and eggs and that's why them kids look so weird, almost dysgenic in quality