There is no such thing as an 'EU compliant' firearm because every country has their own laws. You can own regular revolvers in quite a few EU countries if you tick the right boxes.
However, even in UK where pistols are completely banned, revolvers have a loophole where they are classed as muzzle loaders and therefore legal, if they don't fire metallic cartridges (primer powder and bullet all loaded into chamber individually).
This has lead to people importing unfinished modern revolvers and completing them to meet this criteria, so you can have smokeless .357 revolvers still.
It would be neat. Does anyone do modern replicas?
Also - I'm aware that the original Lemat was a cap & ball gun, but what would be the practicality of making one that used cartridges & shot shells?
Pietta makes them, occasionally. They are rare, and, being Pietta, they make them in .44, instead of the historically correct .42.
It's a massive gun, and if you like black powder, you're usually better off getting a 1851 navy in .36, or a 1860 army in .44. Maybe a Walker if you like the big guns. The LeMat is a novelty, and little more - something like the 1862 Police in a 4.5-6.5 inch barrel, 5 shot .36, or a full size belt pistol (.36 or .44) is much more practical.
It could be done but legal issues would kill off most of the potential market. Yeah lets make a 10,000 revolver that cant be sold anywhere. Great idea.
>It would be neat. Does anyone do modern replicas?
OP's pic is a modern replica.
There were cartridge-firing originals, both pinfire at first and then centerfire. They're ugly AF though. The shotgun barrel took a proprietary shell that was extremely short. According to Forgotten Weapons the smaller cartridges were "11mm French Ordnance" like the MAS 1873 revolver fired but I don't believe that is true.
There were also carbines, I have seen percussion and centerfire, I would assume that pinfire might also have existed.
I really want to see someone make a modernized repro of the carbine. The length of the gun means the shotgun barrel can be smoothbore as intended. Then set up the cylinder for a modern revolver cartridge.
>my god. what did this go for?
Go for? It's not real. It's CG. It clearly couldn't even work, there's no mechanism to keep the gun shut, there's no means of extraction, the artist changed this to centerfire, yet the hammer is still posed to strike a nipple in the 7-8oclock portion of the picture, etc. The image is full of impossibilities.
https://i.imgur.com/JIsNXjC.jpg
that is why it is in .38 short colt
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they are made exclusively for movies. most recent was westworld. it is a NFA SBS requiring a tax stamp
That pic with the two pistols in it is obviously CG. You can even see the polygons.
The screenshot you posted from westworld is obviously not a real functional gun because there are no ratchet teeth on the cylinder for it to rotate. That's a non-functional prop gun. It would be an AOW "smoothbore pistol" if it actually worked as shown, but again, it's just a prop gun that they CGIed muzzle flashes onto, there's no recoil.
>but again, it's just a prop gun that they CGIed muzzle flashes onto, there's no recoil.
they do exist adn have been made. here is one in .32 Smith and Wesson. its a hard conversion apparently.
I'm aware that conversions do exist, but that gun in your photo from Westworld is not one of them.
Your own video explains that the Westworld gun was "built by the prop department" at around 0:59. He then goes on further to explain around 2:10 or so that the only cartridges which you can actually make work in a real conversion are .32 caliber, yet earlier in the video he told us that Ed Harris was loading the prop gun with .38's on the set of Westworld. At around 3:20 he talks about making cuts for the cylinder indexing yet those are clearly not visible in the screen cap from Westworld.
Furthermore, the shotgun barrel in the Westworld version supposedly fires cartridges, yet the conversions that guy in your video made are clearly still muzzle-loading because there's no way to break the gun open to load it. Notice that he never "breaks" the gun open like we see on Westworld. We can confirm this by reading his original sales listing on GunsInternational:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/-32-revolvers/lemat---cartridge-conversion.cfm?gun_id=100780167 > I left the shotgun barrel a .20 Muzzleloader to comply with Federal law.
Semi-functional conversions do exist, but the prop gun used to film Westworld is not one of them. The conversions were made after in an attempt to mimic what people saw in the movie.
In case anyone was wondering if playing with computers too much rotted the brain, there we go. I've seen some kooky shit from noguns artists before but this is a whole new level.
Bro, you must reload every chamber with ball and powder, and schmear it with lard to stop chainfires.
And if that doesn't give you a stiffy, this board isn't for you.
Yeah
No
why
One of the most interesting EU compliant guns.
its EU compliant? why, because black powder?
More or less so.
There is no such thing as an 'EU compliant' firearm because every country has their own laws. You can own regular revolvers in quite a few EU countries if you tick the right boxes.
However, even in UK where pistols are completely banned, revolvers have a loophole where they are classed as muzzle loaders and therefore legal, if they don't fire metallic cartridges (primer powder and bullet all loaded into chamber individually).
This has lead to people importing unfinished modern revolvers and completing them to meet this criteria, so you can have smokeless .357 revolvers still.
>Le Mat XD
Sure, I mean, why not?
I'm just more surprised people haven't made a modern version of this.
It would be neat. Does anyone do modern replicas?
Also - I'm aware that the original Lemat was a cap & ball gun, but what would be the practicality of making one that used cartridges & shot shells?
it's probably be a .380 with a either a .410 or 20 gauge underslung. or what we got in hunt: showdown.
Pietta makes them, occasionally. They are rare, and, being Pietta, they make them in .44, instead of the historically correct .42.
It's a massive gun, and if you like black powder, you're usually better off getting a 1851 navy in .36, or a 1860 army in .44. Maybe a Walker if you like the big guns. The LeMat is a novelty, and little more - something like the 1862 Police in a 4.5-6.5 inch barrel, 5 shot .36, or a full size belt pistol (.36 or .44) is much more practical.
It could be done but legal issues would kill off most of the potential market. Yeah lets make a 10,000 revolver that cant be sold anywhere. Great idea.
>It would be neat. Does anyone do modern replicas?
OP's pic is a modern replica.
There were cartridge-firing originals, both pinfire at first and then centerfire. They're ugly AF though. The shotgun barrel took a proprietary shell that was extremely short. According to Forgotten Weapons the smaller cartridges were "11mm French Ordnance" like the MAS 1873 revolver fired but I don't believe that is true.
There were also carbines, I have seen percussion and centerfire, I would assume that pinfire might also have existed.
I really want to see someone make a modernized repro of the carbine. The length of the gun means the shotgun barrel can be smoothbore as intended. Then set up the cylinder for a modern revolver cartridge.
Top-break
Centerfire
.38 SC
20 ga
>top break
Without a top strap?
that is why it is in .38 short colt
they are made exclusively for movies. most recent was westworld. it is a NFA SBS requiring a tax stamp
my god. what did this go for?
>my god. what did this go for?
Go for? It's not real. It's CG. It clearly couldn't even work, there's no mechanism to keep the gun shut, there's no means of extraction, the artist changed this to centerfire, yet the hammer is still posed to strike a nipple in the 7-8oclock portion of the picture, etc. The image is full of impossibilities.
That pic with the two pistols in it is obviously CG. You can even see the polygons.
The screenshot you posted from westworld is obviously not a real functional gun because there are no ratchet teeth on the cylinder for it to rotate. That's a non-functional prop gun. It would be an AOW "smoothbore pistol" if it actually worked as shown, but again, it's just a prop gun that they CGIed muzzle flashes onto, there's no recoil.
>but again, it's just a prop gun that they CGIed muzzle flashes onto, there's no recoil.
they do exist adn have been made. here is one in .32 Smith and Wesson. its a hard conversion apparently.
I'm aware that conversions do exist, but that gun in your photo from Westworld is not one of them.
Your own video explains that the Westworld gun was "built by the prop department" at around 0:59. He then goes on further to explain around 2:10 or so that the only cartridges which you can actually make work in a real conversion are .32 caliber, yet earlier in the video he told us that Ed Harris was loading the prop gun with .38's on the set of Westworld. At around 3:20 he talks about making cuts for the cylinder indexing yet those are clearly not visible in the screen cap from Westworld.
Furthermore, the shotgun barrel in the Westworld version supposedly fires cartridges, yet the conversions that guy in your video made are clearly still muzzle-loading because there's no way to break the gun open to load it. Notice that he never "breaks" the gun open like we see on Westworld. We can confirm this by reading his original sales listing on GunsInternational:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/-32-revolvers/lemat---cartridge-conversion.cfm?gun_id=100780167
> I left the shotgun barrel a .20 Muzzleloader to comply with Federal law.
Semi-functional conversions do exist, but the prop gun used to film Westworld is not one of them. The conversions were made after in an attempt to mimic what people saw in the movie.
wtf
In case anyone was wondering if playing with computers too much rotted the brain, there we go. I've seen some kooky shit from noguns artists before but this is a whole new level.
I wish you could fire both barrels are the same time.
second best revolver ever made first being the smith and wesson model 3
Does it have removable drums or you must reload the drum every time it's empty?
Bro, you must reload every chamber with ball and powder, and schmear it with lard to stop chainfires.
And if that doesn't give you a stiffy, this board isn't for you.
there literally is no reason why you should get a bp over a modern gun.
>t. eurocuck with multiple guns
No modern Cannons in my price range
>those engravings
unf
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doesn't have a shotgun barrel, nor any other particularly unusual characteristics. a rather unexceptional revolver.
the controls on it seem pretty shitty i feel like you'd never actually use the shotgun mode in desperation.