Direct Impingement Shotgun

would direct (short) impingement be the best choice for an autoshoty?
it looks to be from what i can see, based off the benelli & saiga designs
gas volume to length of action + cartridge pressure seems to be perfect for it, right?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did you just come from here?:
    https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Is_a_Direct_Impingement_shotgun_possible_/2-372970/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no
      i was actually reading a manga & saw some guys talking about guns in the comments, and additionally, i was thinking about impingement actions on my own accord
      that sparked the idea in my head, thats about it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "Direct impingement" isn't really that different from short stroke gas piston, it's just that the internal part of the BCG acts like the piston instead of being out in front of the action.

      I imagine a true DI gas shotgun would be absolutely nasty to shoot, all that gas would be blowing right into your face. Gas shotguns are cool, but can be very picky with ammo which is why interia driven is so popular.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"Direct impingement" isn't really that different from short stroke gas piston, it's just that the internal part of the BCG acts like the piston instead of being out in front of the action.
        What you're defining is just the ar10/15 operating mechanism. Real direct impingement is just the gas pushing against the bolt carrier itself with no 'internal piston' like the mas-49
        >I imagine a true DI gas shotgun would be absolutely nasty to shoot, all that gas would be blowing right into your face.
        This is true, sorry op.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >just the gas pushing against the bolt carrier itself with no 'internal piston' like the mas-49
          I mean yeah, but it's the same difference. There little pocket on the front of the MAS bolt which receives the gas tube acts like a tiny little piston. The AR-10 style of DI it just a bit more refined

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Newish self regulating gas systems arent ammo picky, benelli m4 and bretta 1301. Maybe extremely low powered ammo won't work but the rest work just fine.
        And gas shottyes arent sensitive to attachements and do not rely on proper shouldering like inertia (important in extremely close ranges).
        For 99% of cases it really doesn' matter.

        Also not all shitguns have a selfregulating gas system

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    oh em gee original poster!!! you didn't mention isreal / russia in your post!!!
    guess nobody gives a shit about this
    rip thread, bye bye, have fun, gg gj, rip in piss
    *~~:

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frick
      Off

      Jesus you people pollute every fricking thread.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        every fricking thread?
        just like how every fricking thread devolves into people talking about those topics?
        just like how you're coming into a thread, to do nothing else but instigate such discussions?
        you could have posted anything else, but you chose that?
        frick off yourself, moron

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Short recoil& "inertia" actions are far superior for shotguns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so why does the benelli gas action exist?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everything has a drawback. Inertia guns recoil harder and don't work well when they're loaded down with attachments. They will start to have cycling issues if the overall weight of the gun increases too much. That being said I still prefer inertia. Super clean and simple.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah dude you figured it out call up benelli and tell em

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If i am wrong pleasse correct my idiotism but i think the problems with
    D impingement would be
    The extra gunk which could "probably" easily gunk up the shell lifter or the magazine tube shell release mechanism.

    Gas shottyes have a fairly large "gas capture cup"/ , its probably big for a reason (might be the "relatively" low preassure gas

    Direct impingement "basically" puts the " expanding gas energy capture device" like a gas cup/ op rod at the bolt rather then closer to the muzzle. Meaning you will probably need a bulky shotgun frame to house it.

  6. 1 month ago
    A Lady of Repute

    L O N G R E C O I L
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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the frick up, moron.

      • 1 month ago
        A Lady of Repute

        You seem upset.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hear me out.
    Striker fired shotty.
    >SNIIIIIIIIIF

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those were a thing historically like the Charles Lancaster 4-barrel models

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see why it couldn't work aside from being very filthy if you're talking about a real DI system like a Hakim that just spits carbon all over the place

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it isn't even the best choice for an intermediate caliber rifle

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know
    bro the genesis arms is a drop in AR-10 upper ie direct gas impingement powered autoshotty and it is a fricking beast. probably the best platform currently in production.

    https://genesisarms.com/

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