Digital Night Vision

What is the best, cheapest, digital night vision device for shooting rats in the barn? Helmet mounted, weapon mounted, or just a monocular, anything is on the table. Weapon will be a standard 10/22. I'm a night vision noob so feel free to spoon feed me your opinions or fun facts on the topic.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    unironically
    https://www Amazon com/Nerf-Modulus-Night-Zoom-Scope/dp/B01N7YVRA2/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >actually has infrared mode
      >genuine Hasbro NERF brand
      >only $30
      I'm so there.

      https://i.imgur.com/Y1o3UIi.jpg

      just trap them with pic, try it and see how great it is as bait

      I trapped 7 in one night with rat traps but now they know something is up and won't go near the traps regardless of bait used.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That is so moronic, yet somehow awesome. Not OP, but I might have to get one to pair with my Nerf Glock build and figure out a way to print something that can make this helmet mounted for shits and giggles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so whats the next upgrade from this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is actually a good list and the kinda price range/functionality I'm looking for, thanks for posting it Anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I have a night owl, the glass ruins it. You can't see shit through them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm kinda leaning toward picrel with a $40 ir laser taped to my 10/22 barrel for nightime hip shooting of barn rats. Is NIGHTFOX better than NIGHTOWL? I know its all chinesium, but which is the better chinesium?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Different companies and completely different technology. Nightfox sells digital NV from China, while Night Owl is actual Gen 1 analog NV made in Russia/Belarus. See

              https://i.imgur.com/kohJifA.jpg

              .

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I've never tried a nightfox specifically but I've used similar chinesium macrobinoculars and they are garbage. The Nightowl is legit analog nightvision, just with shitty glass and a low performance tube. Those things are terrible digital cameras with the IR filter taken off and a shit LCD. You have similar results with a modern android phone with the camera in night mode.

                Nightfoxes are actually pretty good for a budget digital. Most Chinesiums are far behind them in terms of fps/lag, although the way Nightfox handled those issues gives them a surprisingly short effective range. They'll be perfectly adequate long as OP just uses them at short ranges inside/around a barn.

                Looking at the infographic it looks like muzzle flash will destroy the nightowl though?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't know. I consider the Night Owl strictly an observation device, I wouldn't subject it to muzzle flash or any other kind of bright light.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
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                Looking at the infographic it looks like muzzle flash will destroy the nightowl though?

                It is a bit tougher that it seems, i bought one about 30 years ago when they were like $400.

                It came with a pinhole lens so you can use it s a basic (12x) monocular in daylight. Repeated exposure will degrade it but it is a overblown issue, i remember when boomers were saying 'don't buy them they are radioactive and will give you eye cancer! ZMG!!'

                They are fine, the analog components mean you can power them up then turn them off and they still work for 60 seconds or so. The IR light is blinding, don't use it unless you have to.

                When i bought mine it had Japanese lenses, they were pretty good. If it was totally powered down it made a decent monocular. Apparently that caused a risk of damaging it but i never encountered that, it has a aluminum pinhole lens cover that you screw over it to prevent damage if you use it as a monocular and accidently hit a button.

                99% of the time there is a problem it is because you don't understand how it works or more specifically you didn't read the operators manual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I degraded my own Night Owl by like 3-5% gain from literally less than 2 seconds of exposure to moderate outdoor lighting (misjudged the spot I was standing in). I wouldn't risk it with muzzle flash, that's what digitals are for because they're practically immune to it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Gen-1 tubes (such as EP-33) are exclusively made by ekran in Russia. Specifically in novosibirsk

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Has anyone tried taking the tubes out of a night owl and putting them in a more useful housing?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The Power supply in those units is utter garbage. Wouldn't recommend. EP-33 don't have a standardized potting, so mounting them to optics is about as much fun as getting your nails ripped off. Very likely also pretty dangerous due to the voltages involved (18kv DC)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I've never tried a nightfox specifically but I've used similar chinesium macrobinoculars and they are garbage. The Nightowl is legit analog nightvision, just with shitty glass and a low performance tube. Those things are terrible digital cameras with the IR filter taken off and a shit LCD. You have similar results with a modern android phone with the camera in night mode.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nightfoxes are actually pretty good for a budget digital. Most Chinesiums are far behind them in terms of fps/lag, although the way Nightfox handled those issues gives them a surprisingly short effective range. They'll be perfectly adequate long as OP just uses them at short ranges inside/around a barn.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ir laser
              >taped
              >hip shooting
              >rat sized objects
              You'll be lucky if you gut or ass shot a fricking rat

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >point shooting is literally impossible
                git gud

                >shooting rats in the barn
                make them your friends. rats are smarter than people.

                >rats are smarter than people.
                Which is exactly why they can't be trusted. Allowing Dolphins to exist is already a big enough risk to humanity.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's not that point shooting is impossible, it's that you will never get your laser parallel to the bore (especially on a tapered barrel) or have it "mounted" rigid enough with tape, you fricking moron.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thank you ^^

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sight Mark digital night vision scopes are probably your best bet. But I’ve never used one. Probably want something that mounts to the rifle. Would be good too to get an IR flashlight for supplemental light. Digital night vision is just a digital camera with no IR filter that makes them display light that we see, most devices come with a built in light. Focus is usually very fine so it might be difficult to aim with a head mounted device imo. Lots of euro rat hunting vids and setups on YouTube but some of their stuff isn’t available here.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's Chinesium digital scopes on Amazon for like $100-200 depending on features. No need for a Sightmark.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > a light drizzle of rain
          "nothing personal kiddo"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just build another one brah.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lol that was my answer too. I still need to just grab one for fun.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is there a Nerf to Picatinny adaptor? I just bought one and i'm going to try to put it on my turkshit airgun, it has a 10 inch scope rail so i think i might be able to pull off putting the Modulus in front of the scope.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://outofdarts.com/products/rail-adapters

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks.

          Ordered the Nerf IR, a 950nm light, 12 inch Picatinny to Picatinny rail and a adjustable riser for the scope. I should be able to mount it with enough relief to mount it in front of the Bushnell 4x on my .22 Turkshit airgun, i've got a Picatinny with a second side mount for the light.

          I'll cut some cardboard wedges that i can use to gorilla tape a shroud between the scope and the nerf lens, hopefully in a week when it all shows up i'll post results. In theory i'll have created the most getto quasi functional NV scope you can make for $80.

          Point of aim will be like 3-4 inches below the barrel but i can work with that, if it hits a coffee can sized target at 30 feet and a human sized one at 150 i'll call it a success.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tight, keep us updated airgunon

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              My biggest issue isn't quality, accuracy or anything like that. The issue is i'll be using it to shoot at shit like weasels or small birds at 50-60 feet and the only way i can make the Modulus work as a scope involves it being several inches (more like 4-5) above the barrel.

              If it works i'm going to have to figure out where to point of aim converges on a (better than expected) Turkish Airgun that got impregnated by a nerf toy by a redneck wielding a roll of glorified ducktape.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            While i'm at it i ordered a dozen 940nm LEDs, i'm going to replace the LEDs in a few solar stake lights with them and put them behind trees outside of my line of sight in my yard.

            The idea is that they will light up the yard without blinding me, they will backlight and 'skyline' the yard. I used to make birdhouses as a bit of profitable folk art, i'm thinking that if i made birdhouses with these lights inside them anyone with NODs will think they are IR cameras and freak out.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That’s actually pretty smart, IR coming from a birdhouse would definitely get my attention.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They back light everything in IR, a few solar yard lights with IR LEds are great for illuminating your yard.

                Also, anyone who sees them with NODs/IR (especially if they are in a birdhouse) automatically assumes they are a IR cameras and gets paranoid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It must be a camera, why else would it be there right?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just trap them with pic, try it and see how great it is as bait

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >rats
    Procure kitty cat

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a Sionyx Aurora, it's okay, on a cloudless night with the moon visible, I can see for hundreds of meters clearly without any additional IR light. if there's heavy cloud cover or you're in a forest, it's pretty shit. kind of headachey too. would be okay for sitting stationary and observing, walking is a pain.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sionyx is the only decent unit because it doesn't need IR illumination
    You should still get at the bare minimum photonis gen 2+

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NVG30

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >shooting rats in the barn
    make them your friends. rats are smarter than people.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why aren't people hacking these for NV use?
    It's a good set of hardware if you can de-israelite the software.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    On a related note, how does those cheap Russian night vision units that pop up on ebay compare to digital? I remember having a PNV57 years ago and that was a piece of shit but a fun project to convert it to AAs and attach an IR illuminator

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're generally quite ok. I'd say most of them (cyclop-1 for example) perform better thanthose shitty night owl monoculars,although that's almost always the case due to the lenses, as night owls also use EP33 tubes. In most cases they either use EP33 or V-8 tubes. Soviet optics are also a lot better that 90s-2000's russian optics

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Gen 1 is good enough to help get bodies in the ground for decades
    >Gen 2 is good enough to help get bodies in the ground for decades
    >But somehow Gen 3 is the bare minimum, anything older will get you killed and you'd be better off with your natural night vision or a flashlight
    >but also the pvs14 is trash and if you can't afford a pvs31 you should kys
    Why does everyone with night vision act like it's super srs bizness and that you need the latest and greatest to larp in the woods at night? Is it just buyers remorse that they refuse to admit? I've used a pvs14 and it was cool but not $3k cool

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wait a week and i'l tell you how to use amazon solar lights and a Nerf toy to make A passive IR rifle scope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Speaking as someone that's sampled all the major varieties of NV from air hogs digital to GPNVGs, there's an appreciable difference jumping between each generation. Plus with things like Gen 2 you're gonna spend like 75-90% the cost of a gen 3 and the improvement from a PVS7 to a 14 is huge. But at the end of the day it's your money and I'm not gonna say boo to someone wanting to join me in the dark, regardless if he spent 40 or 40,000 on his NVGs. I really don't understand the hate for 14s though beyond contrarianism, might be because they're the most affordable and widespread model of gen 3 NV

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