Germany's proven that it's willing to provide equipment if it's allies also do so, if Poland says "we want to transfer this now" Germany is more likely to get on board.
Depends. I can fully see the Poles telling the Germans they have to take care of maintenance and everything, them saying no, and the Poles crying out in self inflicted pain in return
Germany's proven that it's willing to provide equipment if it's allies also do so, if Poland says "we want to transfer this now" Germany is more likely to get on board.
It's most likely a PR stunt in the sense that the decision to send main battle tanks has already been made behind closed doors around the same time the US and Germany agreed to send IFVs. PiS just wants to act like they were the movers here while in reality Biden did all the negotiating weeks ago.
as said, these decisions have been made a LONG time ago, and all the "will they/won't they" is just their public statements missaligning every now and then. It's hard to keep this kind of stuff in check when you have so many parties involved.
Everybody gets to play leader, that’s the beauty of the communication strategy.
The decision has been made last summer/autumn. If you listen closely to panzernerds videos he is talking about a multi phase plan. This is part of it.
as said, these decisions have been made a LONG time ago, and all the "will they/won't they" is just their public statements missaligning every now and then. It's hard to keep this kind of stuff in check when you have so many parties involved.
Germany will block this once again. You can never trust the Germans with anything. Meanwhile Poland is clearly the biggest supporter of Ukraine while Germany once again allies itself with Russia.
This is what the Challys are about. The UK's commitment is solid and if sending some tanks that won't get used much to cross an arbitrary red line is what is required to free up Poland/Germany, then that is what will happen.
The MBT decision has already been made before new year m8. You can expect an announcement on the subject of Leopards and Abrams going to Ukraine in the coming weeks.
>Germany should pay WW2 reparations directly to PiS party bank accounts, NOW!
This, but unironically. I work for a large US defense company and I know exactly what PiS would spend most of that on. The portion they don't use to bribe voters that is.
>Poland is clearly the biggest supporter of Ukraine
I hope the United States rolls through eastern europe at some point just for fun. People seem to have forgotten who's in charge here
Scholz will low balling this with leopards 1 which should be send since last summer along the t-72. That the entire strategie of Scholz and his party, always lacking behind a step but still be "with the group"
At this point I would be surprised to see this wienersucker crawl out from under monke's desk. After everything Russia did to Germany, they prove themselves to be willing cucks to not take the first chance to kick their shit in the way the Poles are doing now.
>Germany will block this once again.
Germany hasn't blocked tank deliveries once. Visegrad24 said they did and lied.
Also Germany sent more than poland, France and Italy combined.
What you really meant to say was "Panthers" when?
If there's one thing that's lame with the war is that we aren't seeing single-case uses for the cutting edge tech. I understand why they aren't doing it, but it's kind of annoying.
Yeah, just like all of those HIMARS and other systems the Russians are destroying by the dozens right?
pro russian telegram channels even arent even impressed with lancets versus ukie t72s though...
Just another PiS PR stunt? Delivering tanks that they know they can't deliver without German approval -- a.k.a they are not delivering anything.
Germany's proven that it's willing to provide equipment if it's allies also do so, if Poland says "we want to transfer this now" Germany is more likely to get on board.
Depends. I can fully see the Poles telling the Germans they have to take care of maintenance and everything, them saying no, and the Poles crying out in self inflicted pain in return
It's most likely a PR stunt in the sense that the decision to send main battle tanks has already been made behind closed doors around the same time the US and Germany agreed to send IFVs. PiS just wants to act like they were the movers here while in reality Biden did all the negotiating weeks ago.
as said, these decisions have been made a LONG time ago, and all the "will they/won't they" is just their public statements missaligning every now and then. It's hard to keep this kind of stuff in check when you have so many parties involved.
Everybody gets to play leader, that’s the beauty of the communication strategy.
The decision has been made last summer/autumn. If you listen closely to panzernerds videos he is talking about a multi phase plan. This is part of it.
True.
Can't wait for Lancet blowing up another Russian vehicle and Pajeet having a meltdown
>lancets
sorry to tell you this but Leos aren't made of wood
>w Lwow
Even when helping they still have to slap them
Poles just polonize names of places. We have Nowy Jork, Paryż, Rzym.
That's normal.
Germany will block this once again. You can never trust the Germans with anything. Meanwhile Poland is clearly the biggest supporter of Ukraine while Germany once again allies itself with Russia.
Nah, Germans caused problems at the start, but later came out with full support provided someone else did it before them
This is what the Challys are about. The UK's commitment is solid and if sending some tanks that won't get used much to cross an arbitrary red line is what is required to free up Poland/Germany, then that is what will happen.
My guess is, they're still ashamed of the last time they sent tanks to Ukraine on their own initiative.
The MBT decision has already been made before new year m8. You can expect an announcement on the subject of Leopards and Abrams going to Ukraine in the coming weeks.
All credits to PiS, the saviors of Europe. Germany should pay WW2 reparations directly to PiS party bank accounts, NOW!
german internet defense force
We can sell you the PiSsers for a bottle of beer, we don't want them.
>Germany should pay WW2 reparations directly to PiS party bank accounts, NOW!
This, but unironically. I work for a large US defense company and I know exactly what PiS would spend most of that on. The portion they don't use to bribe voters that is.
How does one bribe voters? ESL detected.
>Poland is clearly the biggest supporter of Ukraine
I hope the United States rolls through eastern europe at some point just for fun. People seem to have forgotten who's in charge here
Scholz will low balling this with leopards 1 which should be send since last summer along the t-72. That the entire strategie of Scholz and his party, always lacking behind a step but still be "with the group"
At this point I would be surprised to see this wienersucker crawl out from under monke's desk. After everything Russia did to Germany, they prove themselves to be willing cucks to not take the first chance to kick their shit in the way the Poles are doing now.
Imagine still trying this hard to shill
Do point to ANY equipment transfers that germany has blocked since last february.
>Germany will block this once again.
Germany hasn't blocked tank deliveries once. Visegrad24 said they did and lied.
Also Germany sent more than poland, France and Italy combined.
...and the horse you rode on
Smiling friends
cool
Tigers when?
What you really meant to say was "Panthers" when?
If there's one thing that's lame with the war is that we aren't seeing single-case uses for the cutting edge tech. I understand why they aren't doing it, but it's kind of annoying.
Predictions for when/if ukies are getting abrams?
if its shipped via UPS it will be tomorrow
Which primarch would end this war the fastest?
Konrad Kurse.
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Did you know Black folk tongue my anus?
How soon?